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FiyahBun
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« on: March 22, 2005, 04:41:11 PM »

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Now I know the title of this thread sounds controversial but read on....

One of the more fundamental and earliest controversies within the Christian Church centered around the ideas identified by two Greek words: homoiousios, meaning “of a similar substance,” and homoousios, meaning “of the same substance”; two words that differ by a single letter: iota. In fact, in his “History of Christianity,” Edward Gibbon pointed out, with some ridicule, that Christianity was nearly split by the smallest letter in the Greek alphabet.

In Alexandria around the year 319, the previously obscure presbyter Arius attempted to rationalize the mystery that Chrisitians find in the relationship between Jesus and God. He attracted a large following preaching the neoplatonist idea of the absolute oneness of the divinity. He felt that this was a unity that could not be shared, and therefore Jesus was a lesser deity who had been called into existance by God. Jesus was “homoiousian,” that is, of a similar nature to God, but not the same as, God.

Opponents, led most promenently by Athanasius, bishop of Alexandria, preached that Jesus was in fact “homoousian,” the same as God. This caused such conflict that Emporer Constantine demanded they work out their differences at what became the Council of Nicaea in 325.

The homoosians won the debate and codified their beliefs in a set of statements known as the original Nicene Creed, which states that Jesus is “one in being” with the Father. A version of the creed is still recited at mass by Catholics to this day.


I and I tell you when you leave out the feminine principle in creation all kind of different Homo concepts manifest.

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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2005, 06:05:19 PM »

Hotep !!!


Mary  carried his baby  ( their )  to Europe.

This is what is meant as " da Holy Grail "

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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2005, 12:10:19 AM »

if he was homo then jesus might aswell did dead
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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2005, 12:20:40 AM »

He could've been..he did spend time with his 12 apostles alone alot...
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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2005, 05:20:03 AM »


if you're into how jesus smells, read this:http://www.14wfie.com/Global/story.asp?s=3082728
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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2005, 10:28:32 AM »

Greetings

See what Lion of Cuba says in 'reasoning or game'? (on members page)
InI don't think you've read nothing that Fiyahbun wrote, because if you had you'd realise he's not talking about Homo-sexual. (must say though I thought the same as u before I read what he wrote)

Jesus the same as God? He said that he and the Father were just one. But he also prayed to his Father. You can't pray to yourself, can you? Can you? He also said that you shouldn't worship him (Christians worship Jesus like God) So why would they worship Jesus if Jesus told people not to worship him?

It's like when you marry someone, JAH says you are flesh of eachother's flesh, right? It doesn't make you the same person, but when a man and a woman get together, one flesh is created from two= baby. (so if u wanna talk about homo-sexual, then we KNOW it ain't right...however, that's not the issue...)

When Jesus said him ane the father were just one, this is where all the confusion that Fiyahbun is talking about comes from. Just one? My King man is just one with INI, but our Princess is both of us, but none of us are eachother!!!!But all 3 of us are one- We're talking about Trinity here.

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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2005, 02:55:19 PM »

Greetings me bro Fiyahbun, and Greetings for all me brothers and sisters as well.

Bro this has been the best point that I have seen here since I came to this site. The book of life say :

But of the day and that  hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in the heaven, neither the son, but the Father. MARK 13:32.

This shows that Jesus is not JAH, but the son. Roman and Christians have forgotten that they can change many things in the Bible, but not the word of prophesy. JAH has called us to tell us the truth through his son Jesus Christ, he who was born through a virgin woman.

For out of Jerusalem shall go forth a remnant, and they that escape out of Mount Zion: the seal of the Lord of Hosts shall do this.  Isaiah 37:32

Here, the prophesy of Isaiah was fulfilled.

The son of man came as a man to fufill the prophesy of EZEKIEL

Then I beheld, and lo a  likeness as the appearance of fire; From the appearance of his loin even downward, fire; And fom his loin even upward, as appearance of brightness, as the clour of amber. EZEKIEL 8:2. Here we can see that JESUS is the son of man and not JAH.

ROMAN AND CHRISTIAN are worshpPing Jesus as GOD HIMSELF, when Jesus said.....I  receive not honour from men. that show once again that jesus is the son of man. JOHN 5:41

Read ROMAN 1:18-32. Take this message me bro.

Peace and Love in the name of HIM SELASSIE FARI..LEO, the lion of Cuba
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2005, 07:43:31 PM »

     I like these points made here by fiyahbun.  The fact of saying Mary was a virgin of heart makes so much sense.  And I have always believed that Mary Magdeline was Jesus wife.  But does that mean they had children?  Maybe one day that truth will be known.  But for now its all speculation.
     And in fact where is the mother?  Is God two people?  Why is the femine aspect voided?  Perhaps God is actually a Oneness with both male and female. Eitheir way Im not sure that God is even human at all. But these are just my thoughts.
  The words of the bible have been messed with so much its kinda discouraging.  I love the bible and its message but things like this make it so distracting but maybe its a good thing, after all evilness is everywhere and its sneaky,malitious ways know no boundaries.  
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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2005, 10:20:55 PM »

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Where is the Mother aspect? There is gender in all things. For the creative principle in all things must have both masculine and feminine aspects. It is not that God is two people in the relative sense but the act of creating cannot be without the feminine principle.


Fiyahbun, I feel what you're saying here but I have a question. We know how the Bible explains creation of the world: God created for 6 days and on the 7th, He rested. But there is no feminine principle in this story. Do you have a theory on creation that does include the feminine principle? (If there's an ancient African theory, forgive me, I don't know it.)
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« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2005, 10:26:11 PM »

ii wy em HOTEP!!!!

member  da lionof Cuba =  please , if idren is gonna give InI words   ,please dont tell InI da words dat have been stolen from KMT.

You  are making I laugh wit  dese  words one thinks came from a white man telling us lies....these words idren say have been written....not by who you are saying said them....my proof is etched in da stone thousands of years before that bible was written.


Whats down me fellow SPARK man ? =keep dat fire burnin man   yet keep mind  open ..!!!

Get past all da ideas and focus on da truth....at least da truth dat we have revealed.  The Holy Grail  =  da holy bloodline

Mary fled with  child in womb  by  ship  to Europe.

If ones investigate ones will see that this is what Man has come to...I am not makin dis stuff up...nations have fought wars  suggesting they have da baby of Mary and Jesus.

So  sisTAH staci  right by sayin Mary WAS  Jesus wife....certianely has been   proven  to all but da christIns....dey will not open even One eye

Look at U.S  currency...this disgusts I with dose words IN GOD I TRUST

heres da  thing

On da back is what ?

da PYRAMID( KMT )  with what on top?.....da  EYE...I and I

babyLION....dey think InI so  stupid.

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« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2005, 11:00:57 PM »

Wow, teach on bredren.
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« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2005, 11:10:48 PM »

Well I n I hear what is being said,from my understanding,creation is done by the most high and man and a wombman...in the begining Jah said,let us make man with our own image...my belief is that every king has a queen...
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« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2005, 11:20:42 PM »

i dont think jesus would appreciate this topic bieng posted
how dis on him
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« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2005, 05:33:10 AM »

.in the begining Jah said,let us make man with our own image
A very interesting verse to me, always has been God created man in (OUR) image I am not sure what (OUR) translates to in the original languge of the bible but in english it implies more than one. I know, the holy spirit right, well yea but also Jesus. Well I guess God, Jesus and the holy spirit were all men. But honestly I doubt it. People we are talking about the spirit here we all posses one. Phisical nature is just that nature we are made to have sex have children reproduce ext. but to seperate the spirit from the body is something even jesus couldnt do he had to die as flesh and then his spirit could return. As for Mother Mary being a virgin well she was Jewish and it was a very good possibility that she was a vergin you know the hole Ten comandments thing and all. But what has always bothered me is that well here in this post for example, there are so many ideas about how Chirst was this and that and how the words of the bible our wrong or right and such but the one thing most here agree on is that God created humans how can be dibated but the idea that he didnt for the most part isnt even entertained. Amazing dont you think the creater of the universe  and all things can do all this but the thought of him impregnating a virgin with his seed that in turn would be his son is debatable. Well surly its not but what is debatable is the accuracy of the Bible. As for Christ being god I agree there are far more refrences to him being his son than being god himself but again we were all made in God's image on a spiritual level we are all capable of performing godly acts. Jesus was just more aware of this than most
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« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2005, 02:53:52 PM »

Greetings me bro Fiyahbun.

Brother have to say sorry for my mistake when I write in English, English is not my language, my language is Spanish, I say sorry. I try to say that ENMANUEL is the son of JAH, but HE is not JAH himself, but the son . BLESS in the name of HIM SELASSIE I.RESPECT.LEO THE LION OF CUBA
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