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[Empress AliJah]

Blessed and Ivine Love
Yes I sistah InI couldnt agree more, and soon it a go happen Praise Jah,
Peace and Love

[natty threads]

yes as long as he doesn't ask if he can be!

I am laughing so hard I am crying those salty tears.

Thank-you brothers and sisters.

This may be my new favorite forum.

Yah bless.

Ras' Evan- I wasn't angry but I was concerned- I thought "Poor Ras' Evan- doesn't he know white people ruin everything for white people too?" Then I learn it is humor.

Still laughing.

Okay, thank-you.

Back to reading and learning.


Posted on: January 22, 2008, 10:21:32 pm

People need to keep thinking logically, keep remembering what they were thinking like as children, and fight the system of DIVIDE and RULE.

peace

I bring up Jesus again, because it is Him I know-

He said for us to be as little children.

AND to love one another, even the brethren we think we cannot love.

Heehee- on the sheep.

No, they are not deep thinkers.

It is when we seek understanding with the mind that we lose overstanding with the heart?

I do not know.

Should not all knowledge be prayerfully sought to be sure that it is knowledge gained with love and righteousness?

[08bmurphy]

hello all,

 I am seventeen and white, but i believe in the teachings of Jah and wanted to express my gratitude for this great online community of faith. 

 Bless,

 brian

[rootsridge]

bless man

dont matter how old u are or skin

welcome to jah family

[RastefarI]

Greetings,

InI know the discussion has been going on for a while, and InI know your points of view.
Still InI would like to refer to a text by rootsie on white RastafarI and hidden racism.
It can be accessed through the following link:

hxxp: www. rootsie. com/articles/2004/1906. html

Any thoughts?

Forever Loving Jah!

[08bmurphy]

 hello,

 I read the article and decided that I can live Ital and I can live with the same values, but I cant ever be rasta due to my born color. I cannot deny it is a black movement.

Bless,
Brian

[damian_marley]

No! Rasta is for black people only, white people ruin everything.

i think it is sad that you have these views, these are the ideologies given to you by babylon. ALL of mankind is from Africa so really white is just a shade of black. As for the history of the black man in terms of oppression do not label the white man as
A) Oppressors
B) The ruiners of all things good

I myself am irish and we have had 400 years of pillaging and violence against us by Englishmen just the same. We were nicknamed " The blacks of europe " basically what i am getting at is people are people before they are black or they are white. Ras appeals to ANYBODY who has suffered in any way or simply believes in its teachings, show me in ras teachings where it says only black people may believe?

one love
Jordan

[ke]

bless up man powerful words brotha.
keep the fyah burning
ke

[natty threads]

RastefarI, I couldn't get to the article.

You can believe whatever you choose, but as long as you are believing and serving Yah we are in the same church no matter how white I am.

As much as it has pained me, we are also in the same church as any man or woman or child who loves and tries however faultily to serve Yah, be they whomever they are and even if they hate us.

We are none of us without shortcomings (sin) and we are none of us not in need of God's Everliving Love.

So whether a white man can be Rasta isn't up to any man to decide.

God bless.

[NegusNegustiality]

Ises,
I know the one love vibe prevails but this is the Istorical truth.  I remember when a young white girl asked Malcom X how could white people help him and others in their fight (against injustice and white supremacy)?  He replied that white people couldn't.  Self help is the Impreme cornerstone of any ethnicity.  Ones go astray because dem nah study JohnMarcus Mosiah Garvey.  Garvey told Ini look to no one but Ini self to help Ini out of this shitstem.  This is the groundation of Rastafari.  I know ones will sight Selassie I' words about skin color but check what HIM built up and spent His resources and Inergy on.  Afreeca!!  Every man to his own vine and fig tree, and then the confusion ceases.  A European can sympathize with the Afreecan struggle but never empathize.  Feel no way, just the truth.

Haile I

[NyaInIJahLove]

Well Bredren Negus,
I guess I won't try help Africans, more than not I find they teach I more than I could ever teach them, and yet, who am I to say?
So in your I's I should not be who I am....
I apologize to you for being me....
and yet, it is as Jah ordains it...
not I in control
I did not ask to be involved in this struggle, it just happened
I will not pull away from I black Idren because some have prejudice, as love calls I to be true to Iself
I do not pity Africans I honour them
I pity I caucasian family, blinded by their own prejudice, just as I pity any who cannot see that we are all one human family, regardless of colour, country of origin, faith, economic status
and see, none can be fully enlightened and free until ALL ARE
seen??
His Majesty could see the BIGGER picture and was fully involved with the western nations as a safeguard for his own peoples future, not separating himself and ostacising His people from the "modern" world.
I look to his example, not the Holy Piby, nor the black men involved with blackness, for He was a Universal man involved with the whole world, open and wise...
You can personally shut I outa your life but yah can't shut I out of His Majesties.
Bless and Onelove , regardless
Sistah Nyah I

[NegusNegustiality]

Ises,

Nya,
maybe I should have expounded more upon the topic.  During groundation in the 30's, 40's and 50's, when Rases were refered to as Blackheart people, there were no white people.  Why, because it was an Afreecan movement.  When dem raid Pinnacle and chop Rastafari wool because dem hailed a Black God without apology, there were no white people.  When the Jamaican government issued the order to shoot Rastafari upon sight, there were no white people attempting be Rastafari at this time.  When Britain sent correspondence to Haile Selassie I asking HIM to deny that He is God in 1958 & 1959, those were white people with an agenda to follow.  They wanted colonial order restored to the island and the people to keep hailing the British monarchy and forget about the Ancient Monarchy.  This is why Rastafari is an Afreecan movement following the example of HIM.  Rastafari shows Iniversal love to Iveryone but to do this Rastafari must first love Ini, Ini women and Ini's gene-sis of Afreeca. 
  I have a very dear Idren of Italian heritage who I consider an Incient jsut because he has been trodding for so long and is not that much older than I.  He concentrates his Inergy on exposing and teaching his own people about themselves.  He knows and acknowledges that Rastafari is a Black trod first and foremost but Jah love is Iniversal.  So he and some others held a reparations drive over the radio and white people were livid.  That was the affirmation in flesh that his works are still needed very much by white people.
 Even though his Icepts(beard) hang down by his chest he knows that he will never ever get or feel what it is to be a Black Ras inna babylon.  Nya no one is excluding the I from anything but one must know their place.  Everywhere whites go, they feel as if they must learn and steal the mystic vibe of another whether Asia, Afreeca, North & South Amerikkka or even down under.  This is fine but it is when white ones overstep dem place and forget that this is not their movement and attempt to alter the foundation of what will always be, that is where the problems lie.  Watch the movie "The Last Samaurai" and site the example of how a  lone white guy ends up being the "last" warrior in a 3000 year old culture of Japanese warriors?  Gimmie a break!!!!  That is the same story worldwide and ones wonder why Rastafari stand firm that this is an Afreecan trod!!  All are welcome but ones just must remember dem place.  As Fiyah says Rastafari is for everyone, its just that everyone is not for Rastafari.

Holy I

[Molliebaz]

Greetings and praises to The Most High.

@ Nya - again, conscious and righteous words that demonstrate your heartfelt love for Jah.  Nobody can deny your love for your fellow man and your quest for truth and rights.

@ Negus.  I fully appreciate what you say about Rastafari emanating from Africa.  Could you accept my beliefs as a white person that ALL humanity started in Africa and spread across the earth ?   I can never truly know how if feels to stand in a black skin, no more than a black person can know how it feels to have a white skin.   However, there are a few of us that truly do accept His Majesty's teachings, and have strived to learn the history and roots and culture.  I dedicate my life to trying to be an ambassador for RastafarI and I walk with Jah in my heart. 

I too experience a kind of frustration when I see people claiming to be Rasta when it is merely a " follow fashion thing".   I read this site and see the upcoming birthdays of those who claim the identity of Rasta and I see they have reached the grand old age of 14, 15, 16 and I think to myself, they are mere babies.  They have not experienced life, their struggles can never match those who by time and experience have trod this path for a long time.  I'm not saying there is no place for the youth, and I know many youth who have been raised in Rasta's ways. I started seeking RastafarI at around 16 and it has been a long long journey to nearly 52 and I am still learing.  I was born to white parents but after the death of my father I spent much of my childhood in a mixed race home.

My objection is to those who are walking round the school playground claiming to be Rasta because they want to adopt a different persona and smoke ganja, buy reggae music, wear some red gold and green - but in 3 years time they will have moved onto something different. Here today, gone the next.

I have been in a situation of seeing a young white student in a cafe eating a Hamburger and belching and misbehaving while sporting dreadlocks and the red gold and green colours .   I was compelled to tell him he brought shame on my beliefs, and that enough Rastas had shed blood for the privelege of wearing those colours.
 
 Please, Brother Negus accept that there are some true hearted white people who live the livity.  Jah is not partial.

I have been very very blessed by having my cousin's daughter to come and live with me.  She is baptised in the Ethiopian Tewahedo Orthodox church,  and her father, my cousin has raised her all her life in Jah's way.  She is in her teens and needs a woman's guidance to help her follow Rasta ways as she reaches maturity and her father knows I will do my best to continue his teachings.  I would not normally want to publicise my family, but for the sake of showing that the worship of Jah crosses many barriers, I am adding a picture of us together, my flesh and blood, my grandmother is her great grandmother - we share the same genes.

One Love.
Jah guide and protect

[Peace_Loving]

Yes, Molliebaz!  Bless up!  There certainly are true hearted white people out there who only want to follow Jah ways.  I just don't understand why this is always an issue of racism.  Jah loves everyone and everyone can follow H.I.M. ways if they choose.  But they must choose to live that way.  I see it as Jah is always there just waiting for people to see the light and shed all Babylonia ways and follow H.I.M.  We need each other to learn and uplift, support each other in our trod.

Blessings!

[I ELIJAH I]

The Negus points are well made and true. What it brings to my mind is the differences in terminology. I and I dun know sey that the "Rastafari Movement" is mostly a black Jamaican ting and focus of Marcus Garvey etc. And to be honest I don really take from it because its too relative and many time dont line up with His Majesties ways in I sight. So when I say "Rastafari" me no really chat about a "movement". I and I mean JAH. Rastafari is the creator to Iyah. I and I also know sey "Haile Selassie". And this trancends Race to the Iniversiality of human divinity. Now unu's know that I do maintain that only certain individuals can literally be Iriginal Rastafari for genetic reasons. So I'm not denying that Race etc. is a factor.  But I know that all people, whether its as Iriginal Israelite or as grafted gentile, should hail Rastafari as JAH because HIM the worlds, iniverse, and only g-d. So here it comes back to who has the right to Identify themselves as Rastafari. And in I sights only the chosen few are Rastafari. But nuff love from the nation as whole sameway.   
Posted on: February 12, 2008, 05:00:32 pm