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« Reply #255 on: May 26, 2010, 02:47:26 PM »

stripped of meaning, what are you talking about? all I know is love and that don't fit in no blood
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« Reply #256 on: July 11, 2010, 04:30:13 AM »

Would all agree Bob Marley was a true Rastaman? I assume we can agree with this.
He is the most widely known Rasta in the world.  Who can disagree with that?
Well, it is a fact that Bob was half white and half black.  So for those that say white man can't be Rasta do you say Bob was only half-rasta? Is that not absurd!?
True, I would recognize that, culturally, Bob was a black man.  Just like Barack Obama is, culturally, a white man. 
Because of this analogy and all my life experience I don't believe the skin colour is of significance.  Your heart and mind define you and equality is in the colour of your blood and not your skin so everyone has an equal opportunity to be a Rasta.
However, I will continue with my examining of Bob as a Rasta.  Bob was asked by a white interviewer once, "what do I have to do to become a Rastafarian?".  Bob replied unphased by any concern skin colour or otherwise and stated "well first, you must be born again".  Much to the bewilderment of the interviewer (and the WORLD).
I truly believe Bob was referring to the teaching of Yeshua (Jesus) in John 14 (verse 15 onwards especially).  The point is also emphasized in John 3.  God will guide and comfort you if you love and obey Him. 
So never let any man tell you you can or can't be a rasta.  All authourity is in the almighty.  Bob knew this so that's why he pointed the interviewer to God's instruction.  Follow God and be yourself.  Jah Bless.  Jah Guide.
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« Reply #257 on: July 11, 2010, 11:49:51 AM »

Why do heathens rage and imagine vain things?

If it's universal consciousness that you are hailing/seeking, then why be limited by
hatred, ism/schism?  You know, the tools of men. 
If you are really striving against ROME. Then issues like these are petty diversions.

Seek for the I AM.  which is within all of us. All though many choose not to accept that.
It's a shame that too many ascribe to the notion that "There is no place where there is speech of language where my voice cannot be heard"
I n I, aspire to the opposite. Insofar as we seek for the truth in the places where there is no speech or language to be heard.
Our knowledge stems from way beyond mere words. Indeed words hinder I and I.

The gnosis which  we seek, JUST IS, and it stems from the I AM.
This knowledge is older than thought  which is many times older than mere words.
This knowledge you have to feel it, to know it, cannot be simply taught  as there is no speech to record it.
When you feel it You know it, You just live it. It just is.

If you know what I am talking about, then you too are on the Universal trod.

Hail Up. Sista Nyah, Prophet 777, Human , and Maas Surfmon.  and de whole of de I dem.

One Love

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« Reply #258 on: August 24, 2010, 04:05:52 AM »

tis not the color without but the heart within my man. . .
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« Reply #259 on: October 15, 2010, 09:28:59 PM »

idren, all men are born of Africa, we know this in our hearts&souls both through the teachings of Jah Rastafari and through modern science and history that has proven it so.

its not the dreads on your head or the colour of your skin that makes you a rastaman, its the love in your heart.

mighty selassie, king of kings spoke out against the evils of racism, bredrin and sistrin, who are we to judge a rastaman by the colour of his skin when mighty Jah has condemned those who do so?

please show overstanding and love to everyone, a white child of babylon who TRULY follows the path of the rastafari (not a liar who listens to reggae, abuses the sacrament and worships bob marley) is a truly blessed ting indeed, as no good is stronger than that of one who has walked the path of evil and said no more! opening their heart to mighty Jah. 

A rastaman knows he is a rastaman, a liar knows he is a liar, and the only one but I who knows truly that I am rasta is Jah.

Only Jah can judge us, do not rear up in pride against whites, or you are as bad as the squirming worms of babylon.

Jah bless, One love.
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« Reply #260 on: November 21, 2010, 02:23:30 AM »

stripped of meaning, what are you talking about? all I know is love and that don't fit in no blood
Greetings Oskar, I'm talking about the word Ras meaning Ethiopian(African) nobility, being the root of the word Rasta and the problem of applying it to a non-Ethiopian.  Isn't that the essence of this thread?  Ras has a well defined cultural meaning tied to a place and a people.  To identify as both "white", as it is commonly understood these days, and "Ras" doesn't make sense (to me).   I intend no disrespect, I'm voicing my own understanding of things, answering the question for myself here on the forum.  At the same time, I keep an open mind, since as the truth materializes in my heart, so does my understanding change.  I now make the efforts not to expect anything when I reason, ask questions and express site.  Here are some of my thoughts on your words and the general subject.

It is often said love is higher or spiritual, which so far makes sense to me.  Also true is that each ones spirit interpenetrates their flesh and blood.  A humble man knows her spiritual nature, even the murderers, thieves, oppressors and backstabbers.  So to I, the statement that "love don't fit in no blood" don't fit.  Why create boundaries that don't exist, separation in that which is inseparable. If love cannot dwell in flesh and blood then prepare for all kinds of horror man.  Make flesh and blood to act in Love (the powerful gift to all), which has no boundary, and many problems get solved.  A paradoxical commandment: be molded by what is limitless and eternal.

The attributes of a people's flesh and blood are tied to the land and their ancestors on the land (blood).  The people who stayed in Africa have distinctive traits - traits tied to Africa.  The people in the heart of Africa hold *all* the traits of human blood.  Iological , Irational basis and support for the life of all.  The people who abandoned Africa and her people in "prehistoric" times, and who set out to new lands and environments took on specific traits over time in accordance with Jah ordained natural law.  Biological diversity is an aspect of human nature.  The symbol of biological diversity is black producing rainbow.  As above so below.

How do we process this reality?  I as one love the beauty of the diverse and ever changing human nature.  Seeing InI is watching natural and particular harmony with the heavenly chorus that beholds and proclaims the eternity of Jah.  InI, each one, in each particular instance participates in the whole human nature, and InI changing always according to nature, and in site of this, the whole human nature is in the image of Jah - Iman nature reflecting Jah eternity, motion and changes on its course and destiny and never losing site of current particular reality.

Disharmony occurs when we live contrary to our own nature, which retains us.  Enter sickness and suffering.  Sufferation will not end without complete and total justice.  No individual mortal can bring total justice.  Total justice requires the cooperation of all people.  Cooperation is meaningless without distinction.    When we reach total cooperation, we will have known the state of things called Great Judgement.  The foretaste of Judgement and Joy is here for those who awaken to it and rise up to harmonize with the godly vibes that are both loud and clear, and undetectably quiet.  It is this way so that it can be your choice.

At the same time, I site Iniversal InI inity of the heart, where the royal divine image is enthroned in all without regard to those traits that arise from their part in the ever-unfolding song of nature.  The image of God manifests as reason and will and all sorts of other spiritual beauty that marks us.  I can be myself outside of the Rastafari movement, yet work for common aims with the rastafari movement,  and this separation is no problem to the heartical inity that always exists.  This royal image I refer to is truly exemplified and realized in the person of Haile Selassie I.  His Imperial Majesty Haile Selassie is immediately substantial to us in modern reality where many divine energies that are unseen and timeless such as virtue, justice, love, patience, compassion, righteousness  etc. are exemplified and manifested.  Dignity.  I am not one to deny your siting of HIM's divinity in your own way, but I myself understand what I see in an Orthodox manner, which is the process of Theosis, and in His Majesty's case,  in a special an particular way given that he is the Atsie.  So far, noone has given me any information to move beyond that framework that I site in regards to HIM.  No amount of insulting me as ignorant or lacking, will change that, but information and insight are welcome.

If InI take in ideas, language, livity, aesthetics & cultural elements from African culture(s), InI ought to do so with full respect, admiration and declaration of their source whenever it can be said, just as the Ionian Pythagoreans wrote and declared Pythagoras debt to his Egyptian teachers.  So when I use speech that I learned from Rastas, I do so out of respect for it's wonderful dimensions, and am glad to be able to come to a forum where it is positively encouraged.

World citizenship allows for mutual cultural exchange for mutual benefit because it's predicated on respect and acknowledgement.  How else did the distinguished Head World Citizen select the tone for the new millennium which InI pay homage to?  Again, InI give thanks for the word sound power I-sage of the rastafari movement and it's unique and essential point of view that is truly inclusive. I site the effective healing it has brought and continues to bring on a cultural level.  The truth is, democracy, freedom, socialism, conservatism, liberalism et cetera are always a footnote to what is royal, noble + central. 

So, tying the above together, for myself, recently descending from a branch of humanity outside of the place of africa/ethiopia, the distant origin - I cannot self-identify as a Ras without denying some of the meaning behind the word. For me, it would be disrespectful and destructive to use that title for myself.  That being said, I, heavily influenced by the orthodox christian faith which up until recently I practiced for years and years, reiterate the work of Christ, the eternal begotten Divine Son of the Father who by humiliating himself and assuming human nature raises all to be Kings and Priests through His eternal Kingship and Priesthood:  Wake up and live and adopt I true nature, and let it be shaped in royal likeness, and model the noble truth.  God became man so man can become gods.  All people have a noble calling, and are showered continually with divine gifts and power.  Yet, it is rare that people respond to this reality and rise up to act nobly.  And even so, it is also common, and mostly goes unnoticed.  I haven't sighted anything higher than that so far really.  I keep my eyes open though.

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« Reply #261 on: November 21, 2010, 10:39:42 AM »

from history i know ras as an ethiopian title that is given, not claimed.

i was born in europe, raised in europe. that's all i know until i go outside europe and find that reality is more than what is thaught in europe.

the almighty is a humble man. tell i, does a humble man murder, steal or trample on his fellow beings? in truth i say, those that do don't know themselves.

don't get confused, sometimes i see truth and think say haile selassie i
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« Reply #262 on: November 21, 2010, 03:44:05 PM »

from history i know ras as an ethiopian title that is given, not claimed.

i was born in europe, raised in europe. that's all i know until i go outside europe and find that reality is more than what is thaught in europe.

the almighty is a humble man. tell i, does a humble man murder, steal or trample on his fellow beings? in truth i say, those that do don't know themselves.

don't get confused, sometimes i see truth and think say haile selassie i
A humble man knows that those who do murder and steal or trample also share the higher spiritual nature.  The way I see it, those who murder, steal and oppress imagine they are getting some upperhand, but are in reality running away from and/or suppressing what's truly higher and divine in themselves.

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« Reply #263 on: November 21, 2010, 08:56:08 PM »

do you know what is the difference between a murderer and a righteous person nepsis? the righteous person knows when to be humble.
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« Reply #264 on: November 21, 2010, 10:35:32 PM »

I know a righteous person cannot be a murderer.  I hope that's not how you took my post, which is why I clarified.  I agree a righteous person knows when to be humble.  The highest examples of nobility I know are always humble.  Christ, HIM, Buddha immediately come to mind.

Peace and respect to you Oskar.  I think I've answered all your questions directed towards me. 
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« Reply #265 on: November 22, 2010, 02:20:54 PM »

Although Iman would never project to "know" the mind of a person who could take a life, It is Nice to read such Depth and Honesty.   Brdren Nepsis, The I has been away far too long, Iman can see the I is doing well and growing Strong.   I can see that i have missed some crucial reasoning, but having viewed the topic in recent posts dont much read them.   It was the I that caught my attention and seeing Oskar and Knowledge also resond mean that it will take some reading to catch up.
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« Reply #266 on: November 23, 2010, 04:55:39 AM »

Thanks for the kind words of encouragement from the I, Jahrealite.  I don't feel stronger honestly, but have been going through a major transition.  Be well, thanks. 
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« Reply #267 on: December 05, 2010, 11:27:34 PM »

Nepsis, Iman like the view of the topic focusing on RASta.  Ras, being a title appointed and not just claimed.  None-the-less,  It points to the myriad ways a topic may be viewed.
For so long I have viewed this topic to be one of color, as it is stated in the heading.  Looking closer, as we may do once we have had time to absorb  others views, takes on anodda meaning, and it seems miles from where we started.
Further, The I has a excellent, Balanced view to geography and People.  Pointing to the fact that each I, dem have singular trod and view, all-the-while being in the multitude of InI.
and so go the world of FREE CHOICE.  we each may ascribe to a particular world-view, at a particular time, and there is no saying what that may morph into some time future, but it is clear that it must be in the same vane of harmony, otherwise we have contradiction and then conflict within the self.
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« Reply #268 on: December 23, 2010, 01:48:48 AM »

do you know what is the difference between a murderer and a righteous person nepsis? the righteous person knows when to be humble.

A murderer can be very humble too....And, if necessary, a humble person can be very aggressive too...

Just take a look at the "God" in the bible..Have you ever seen what his anger leads to according to that book ? And yet, according to that book, no one is humbler than him...LOL.

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« Reply #269 on: December 24, 2010, 03:16:24 AM »

A murderer can be very humble too....
no that's not true
And, if necessary, a humble person can be very aggressive too...
that's true because humility is aggressive in relationship to apathy and group think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hVp47f5YZg
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