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[prophet777]

Has anyone here ever thought of what we really are here for, on this planet ? Been meditating on this for a while and still can't find the answer...To tell you the truth, I find it somehow senseless (maybe because I still do not have a satisfying answer..)
What is the reason of/for all this ? Are we being tested ? And if so, for what ? Has "The Father" made us/allowed us to be "test persons/beings ?" I mean, when u think u have found truth, up comes more questions !

Why are there no clear answers to the questions we all have on this/these subjects ?

I'm still seeking (like I allways have been)...but how long shall we seek before we find ? How long will it take before we are all satisfied/fed ? How long till we know the ONE TRUE TRUTH (if that is what it is called) ? Can it really only be found in "death?" Like some say/claim. For I do not believe that anything can be found in death...Death has no life.

It seems to I, that we are living from day to day, sunrise to sunrise, sunset to sunset, finding answers but, not THE ANSWER to all...Are we so "incomplete?" So imperfect ? If so, what is lacking ? How do we find it ?

I some how agree to what is said in the Ible : "All is vanity.." i.e., in vain. But, would that mean there is no solution ?

Prophet7

[prophet777]

Here, the words of the Ible :

Ecclesiastes 2

   1I said in mine heart, Go to now, I will prove thee with mirth, therefore enjoy pleasure: and, behold, this also is vanity.

   2I said of laughter, It is mad: and of mirth, What doeth it?

   3I sought in mine heart to give myself unto wine, yet acquainting mine heart with wisdom; and to lay hold on folly, till I might see what was that good for the sons of men, which they should do under the heaven all the days of their life.

   4I made me great works; I builded me houses; I planted me vineyards:

   5I made me gardens and orchards, and I planted trees in them of all kind of fruits:

   6I made me pools of water, to water therewith the wood that bringeth forth trees:

   7I got me servants and maidens, and had servants born in my house; also I had great possessions of great and small cattle above all that were in Jerusalem before me:

   8I gathered me also silver and gold, and the peculiar treasure of kings and of the provinces: I gat me men singers and women singers, and the delights of the sons of men, as musical instruments, and that of all sorts.

   9So I was great, and increased more than all that were before me in Jerusalem: also my wisdom remained with me.

   10And whatsoever mine eyes desired I kept not from them, I withheld not my heart from any joy; for my heart rejoiced in all my labour: and this was my portion of all my labour.

   11Then I looked on all the works that my hands had wrought, and on the labour that I had laboured to do: and, behold, all was vanity and vexation of spirit, and there was no profit under the sun.

   12And I turned myself to behold wisdom, and madness, and folly: for what can the man do that cometh after the king? even that which hath been already done.

   13Then I saw that wisdom excelleth folly, as far as light excelleth darkness.

   14The wise man's eyes are in his head; but the fool walketh in darkness: and I myself perceived also that one event happeneth to them all.

   15Then said I in my heart, As it happeneth to the fool, so it happeneth even to me; and why was I then more wise? Then I said in my heart, that this also is vanity.

   16For there is no remembrance of the wise more than of the fool for ever; seeing that which now is in the days to come shall all be forgotten. And how dieth the wise man? as the fool.

   17Therefore I hated life; because the work that is wrought under the sun is grievous unto me: for all is vanity and vexation of spirit.

   18Yea, I hated all my labour which I had taken under the sun: because I should leave it unto the man that shall be after me.

   19And who knoweth whether he shall be a wise man or a fool? yet shall he have rule over all my labour wherein I have laboured, and wherein I have shewed myself wise under the sun. This is also vanity.

   20Therefore I went about to cause my heart to despair of all the labour which I took under the sun.

   21For there is a man whose labour is in wisdom, and in knowledge, and in equity; yet to a man that hath not laboured therein shall he leave it for his portion. This also is vanity and a great evil.

   22For what hath man of all his labour, and of the vexation of his heart, wherein he hath laboured under the sun?

   23For all his days are sorrows, and his travail grief; yea, his heart taketh not rest in the night. This is also vanity.

   24There is nothing better for a man, than that he should eat and drink, and that he should make his soul enjoy good in his labour. This also I saw, that it was from the hand of God.

   25For who can eat, or who else can hasten hereunto, more than I?

   26For God giveth to a man that is good in his sight wisdom, and knowledge, and joy: but to the sinner he giveth travail, to gather and to heap up, that he may give to him that is good before God. This also is vanity and vexation of spirit.

Prophet7

[Ash-Tree]

I believe our purpose is to uplift one another.


Here is something from the dali lama.


From The Art of Happiness I believe that the very purpose of our life is to seek happiness. That is clear. Whether one believes in religion or not, whether one believes in this religion or that religion, we all are seeking something better in life. So,: I think the very motion of our life is towards happiness. If you maintain a feeling of compassion, loving kindness, then something automatically opens your inner door. Through that, you can communicate more easily with other people. And that feeling of warmth creates a kind of openness. You'll find that all human beings are just like you, so you'll be able to relate to them more easily. That gives you a spirit of friendship. Then there's less need to hide things, and as a result, feelings of fear, self-doubt, and insecurity are automatically dispelled.



In our daily lives problems are bound to arise. The biggest problems in our lives are the ones that we inevitably have to face, like old age, illness, and death. Trying to avoid our problems or simply not thinking about them may provide temporary relief, but I think that there is a better approach. If you directly confront your suffering, you will be in a better position to appreciate the depth and nature of the problem. If you are in a battle, as long as you remain ignorant of the status and combat capability of your enemy, you will be totally unprepared and paralyzed by fear. However, if you know the fighting capability of your opponents, what sort of weapons they have and so on, then you're in a much better position when you engage in war. In the same way, if you confront your problems rather than avoid them, you will be in a better position to deal with them.

Ash-Tree

[rasfreeform]

Easy Prophet7
                     Well, there's an idea in The hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy on this question.... :-)

Personally, I feel that there's much beyond I comprehension, also many questions to which I cannot find satifactory answers; I feel I just have to accept that. I think that whilst Iman within the confines of the physical world, I efforts have to be concentated on living the right way in the midst of JahCreation, and that when the time comes to move on out of the physical and onto the spirit world, the anwers and meanings which elude I now, will become clear. I  recall something written, along the lines of " A boat sails out to sea; on the shore there are people watching her moving further away, until she is just a dot on the horizon. At the same time, on the other side of the sea, there are other poeple watching a dot appear on the horizon and moving ever closer to them, and they say ....'here she comes'..."

peace

[prophet777]

If I Father is the "knower of all" why HE cant give the real truth ?? Would a Father hide truth from him son if he love him, and want the best of him ? Seek and u will find..blablabla....What is it that that I am seeking ? If HIM know the answer why should I seek - which would come to I conclusion = test...So life is nothing but a test..?? What "GOD" is this ?? U have children and know how them can overcome but, allow them to b deluded(killed/brainwashed..etc.,etc., ? Even though u know the answer to all ? What type of "GOD" is this ?? Definetly not the ONE I follow...and would succumb (not spelled right t) to...Him a devil !!

If THE FATHER want I to know truth, as sons and daughters, HIM better act ! Otherwise I c this as a test...A test we shall never overcome...if we follow him


Prophet 7

[prophet777]

I am here to challenge this ancient "belief" of non-sense...! Why ? It don't make sense...

Being a Father I would teach I child the TRUTH if I knew it.. THE FATHER has failed in that ! So he not I Father ! Simple & clear..

It would lead to furher conclusions..but, no answers...= no conclusion. Seems to I that I-yes-US- must b crucified ? For what ?

prophet7

[paco]

i offer this..



                       Did you see the moon in the sky?

 "Yes", I said.

   With a tear of knowingness

in her eye, she said:

That's why we are all here, to see the moon.

                                           - Adyashanti







































































































 

 

[prophet777]

Is that supposed to b an answer ? If so .. for I it is not. The moon do not speak... = cant give I no answers..Overstand ?


Prophet7

[paco]

overstand

[Wahine]

prophet

While i don't have an answer to your questioning i am also feeling that this life is becoming a test. However, with each test i pass, i feel stronger and feel like i have learnt something from it. Maybe we are just here to learn and those lessons don't end until we cease to be physical beings. I wish i knew the answers to this life but sadly i don't.

[Life]

For me it would seem that there is only one purpose to life and that is..... To know who and what you are. .

[RasLuke]

Greetings,

To I, to live is to learn. To learn from your own mistakes and experiences, to educate yourself about who you are and what you have the potential to do with your life and the good you can bring to the earth, bring a smile to the faces of the people around you be it, your children, your partner, family, friends or people you dont know.

Lately, mainly this month, I have had many scares in life and I have decided to live, take knowledge of them, learn from it and move on, get better and work continously towards seeking that truth because I know I Father JAH will reveal it to I someday!

JAH Guide and Protector

[msgal]

I have to admit the more I learn It seems the less I know.
or maybe it's just that as I realize the enormity of how much knowledge
there is I know I'll never learn it all.

Trying to see a purpose in life is like the universal question.
Ash-tree says to lift others, I can go with that.
How, is another question. Since each person has their own
unique set of skills and strengths I think we all have our own
path to best using them.  Whether we do or not is a whole nuther story

I do think complete understanding is beyond us on this earthly plain.
Just to much to know.
I don't begin to understand why my life has been what it is,
I've just tried to make the best of it.
To me, doing my best is understanding my strenghts as much as possible
and using them to uplift myself and those around me.
This works for me because I know one thing I have is being able to connect outside
myself with others and the world around me.
I helps me understand and have compassion for others, making me more
able to help when needed.
On the flip side it also makes me feel the negativity in someone more strongly.
I can live without that.

I like to think if we remain open to it we will find our direction, or maybe
it will find us.

So really, I think that question has a little bit different answer for each of us
depending on the strengths we've been given.

Jah bless

one love

[Ash-Tree]

msgal

You asked How.

I feel once you know the self you realise how everyone else is the same as you.
You begin to see yourself in others and can relate.
So providing the Spark to that fire is sometimes all it needs, the student must colect the bramble to keep the fiyah blazing.

Ash-Tree

[rasfreeform]

Easy Prophet
                    In essence, I think perhaps there isn't really a question and an answer. Whilst many questions can be posed by humanity to which answers elude humanity itself, Life is Life. It may be possible that the true sense of life is life itself. I think a question to which there may not be an answer satifactory to all, would be regarding the true sense of spirit. I think the key thing in life is to find a path in life which is in harmony with one's self, to concentrate on the beauty and miracle of life, and to stand up to those who stand in the way of life in all its diversity and any of its manifests. Plus, a truthful and paramount answer would seem to I to require infinite or complete knowledge of all life and spirit, which would not be possible for I without a retrospective or introspective on life and spirit- a state which I can't see as being possible whilst I confined to the physical spectrum which is life.

peace