'Don't Listen to Those Nigga' Blues'

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[sistahvee]

InI have spent the last two days scanning the information available in most of the forums dedicated to the black communities and finally recognized the fact that since InI have been away from the IT forums for quite a few years a lot have changed and not necessarily for the edification or upliftment of the Blackman or the Black Family of man on a whole... But though water changes into ice under the right circumstances will it not become water again?

InI have scrolled through and bumped into NIGGARIZATION in its truest forms.  Is this for real?  Is the informatiom InI seeing in these forums for REAL.  Have the Black Family truly been Brainwashed to the point of becoming NIGGARIZED all over again?

InI admit InI have been focused on InI's work as JahJah have instructed InI to do, but how is it possible that my Black Family has fostered the attitude of POP, POP, POP, HERE GOES MY MIND...  Wasn't one of the greatest things about these forums the opportunity for us to participate in discussions and reasoning..?  

What happened to the ELEGANCE THAT BRINGS FORTH TOGETHERNESS..  One is always aware that there is a level of dangerous freedom in speaking the truth...  But everyone's truth  is not always every  ONE'S truth, hence the reason for discussions and reasoning.  Rastas need to get back to the QUALITATIVE SENSE of REASONING and not confuse it with gossiping, backbiting and other forms of negative letting of foul energy.  

Rastas have always been wedded to something greater than self...  Remember...  that thing called TOGETHERNESS.  It was the ability to get outside of oneself and the opportunity to get it right.  

Like Sir Marcus said...  "The Negro sits and pines all day:  His opportunities slip away;"  and... "She from every human pain would rather/save me, and drink the dregs of bitterness..."

In I's life a negro has always been a black man on his KNEES who refuses to GROW...  WE RASTAs have never been NIGGERS...  WE RASTAS have always allowed JAJJAH's wisdom to seep through every nook and cranny of who we are.  How is it that we are now lost and BLIND in our quest for greatness...  We have entered a state of SPIRITUAL MALNUTRITION and no longer able to muster the courage it takes to partake of something grander than ourselves.

Rasta Family, ask yourselves and seek JAH's guidance in figuring out how we can do a better job of paticipating in our world and become fair in our criticism of each other.  Find a way to get connected to something larger...  Ask yourself , "Do InI have what it takes to have a dialogue" and stop restricting and limiting ourselves through our own minds.  

In the reviews of one of my books InI was said to be "...  a warrior in the tradition of Harriet Tubman and Jamaica's Maroon Nanny... a brave heart who refuses to be a victim..."  At first InI was terrified to be mentioned in the same sentences of two great women warriors of such merit.  Now I know through JAH's guidance that 'to be compared to the best is indeed a privilege'..  

What will it take for us RASTAS on a whole to again be incandescent in our choice to follow the road JahJah has set before us?  To look into the darkest corners of our minds and see that none of us has attained the wisdon to call ourselves perfect.  

InI  cannot speak for all but the choice to refuse NIGGARIZATION is a free choice and InI have chosen to not be personnally forced into becoming NIGGARIZED...  InI am seriously suggesting that none of us LISTEN TO THOSE NIGGA' BLUES...  If we had not seen the light we would not be here still seeking and searching and attempting to reason through the rest...

JahJah Bless Family
Sistah Vee

[sistahvee]

Bless Up Family

A few of the 'white' Idren  here has pm'd InI several times asking InI questions that InI had already answered in this post.  Rather than flood the boards InI decided to bring this post back into the headlines as InI cannot figure out another more fruitful way to explain WHAT IS GOING ON with the many Issues that is surrounding us Idren, especially regarding 'COLOUR' and 'COLOUR ISSUES'.  As a 'white' Rasta this  one particular Idren wanted to know WHAT WAS WRONG WITH 'BLACK' RASTAS that it was so difficult for them to 'ACCEPT'  white Rastas...  The Idren actually wanted InI's advice as to whether or not to cut the I's dreadlocks as the I is feeling a terrible strain from 'Black' Rastas (apparently not only on this forum).  InI tried to explain the difference between being 'Black' and being a 'Nigga'.  InI explained that some of us 'Blacks' are just as racist as the 'white' racists. 

When all was said and done InI couldn't explain to the Idren what being 'NIGGARIZED' was better than InI already did here more than two months ago.  So here it is again for those 'white' Rastas here who is seeking a means of OVERSTANDING just what the problem is with some of us 'Black Idren'...

Notice that 'WHITE' and 'BLACK' are NOT the way InI see it but how it has been presented and 'understood' by the Idrens.  Hope InI have answered the questions posed to InI.  If InI haven't please pm InI again and InI will try again.


Nuff Love and Guidance

Sistah Vee
Posted on: March 11, 2007, 05:57:58 amRacial Discrimination

The spectre of racial discrimination which has for so tong cast its dark and evil shadow over much of this globe is slowly disappearing. Men are coming increasingly to be judged by their talents and abilities rather than by the less meaningful and far more superficial standards of race and religion. But there yet remain those who, in their bigotry and ignorance, resist this flooding tide, and it is against these that our efforts must be directed. The struggle to win for our brothers in South Africa that status as free men, free to stand, heads high, among free men as equals, which so many millions of Africans and Asians have attained but yesterday, goes on. Our duty is not discharged, our course is not run, our victory not won so long as apartheid, the legitimized policy of the Government of the Union of South Africa, prevails in any area of the world.

In South Africa, an attempt has been made to legislate the inequality of the races. This attempt is doomed to failure. We here are all pledged not to pause in this strife until its emptiness, and mockery are revealed for all to see, and those who have used it for their own purposes have abjured this doctrine which is an insult to all men and to Almighty God in Whose image We are created. But, at the same time, let us not bemuse ourselves with the notion that it is any more possible to legislate equality, for these matters concern attitudes and values over which intellect sadly exercises but little control. Let us not recoil in hatred against those who, even while protecting their freedom from bias and prejudice, reveal by their actions that the poison of discrimination has left its lasting effects, and by this reaction reveal that we, no less than they, are prey to unreasoning emotion, that we, no less than they, are susceptible to that virus which is called intolerance

[surfmon_I]

ssed Love Sistah;
Tolerance.
I an i knows that it is the test of all and many fall short of the mark.  An individual has the CHOICE and the POWER to abandon all restraints for the betterment of Jah Idren, still them choose to taint the spirit that dwells within all. 
Thins today are indeed getting better, but wait,~~~there is so far to go. Areas of the world are ripped apart for these very intolerance, and the world watch.
I an i could go on and on, yet...would rather set up on High the Beauty of Rasta.  Its acceptance of light which dwelleth in all, and this is a daily pleasure to behold with in each of us (if allowed to flourish and grow)
I an i give Thanks for the I pointing it out and wish that the Idren would see past this shortsightedness.  Eventually, i hope to see these many become the few, for, their days are truely numbered and the Truth Rasta Stand for will overcome.
Guidance in The Most I.

[EmpressCarla]

Blessings

SistaVee, can the I elaborate on what these "nigga blues" are? I am not clear as to what specifically you're referring to in your initial post. So I am wondering if the I can give clarification. Guidance.

Be blessed.

[sistahvee]

Bless Up Empress Carla

InI was referring to the on-going 'excuses' many blacks refer to as their REASON for doing 'this' or saying 'that'..  ie.  'It's due to the slave trade that we are unable to move forward..', 'I'm not 'working' for the 'white' man... School only teaches the 'white' man's truth, the black man don't need the white man's education... I ain't no slave, I ain't serving no man... 'babylon just wanna' hold the black man down...'

Instead of working through the Issues of the past, we use the His/story of the past to keep us in Mental and Spiritual bondage of our own making, refusing to make the adjustments necessary  for effective change.  Rather than getting a job that pays the bills to support a family's needs, one chooses to sit at home complaining, all the time still not making the load lighter.  Rather than educate ourselves using all means, as H.I.M. Instructed us, including the use of higher education of Universities and Colleges, we sit at home barely able to make it through a book from cover to cover and unable to write complete sentences much less a resume  of qualifications.  We sit around like stagnant waters forever complaining about how bad things are, but unwilling and more often than not, unable to enforce the changes we constantly cry about.   

We are placing ourselves, through our own means, into a state of helplessness, forever seeing how life and circumstances FORCES us to do this or that but hardly ever willing to put in the effort to see that tomorrow is better for ourselves and our children through our work.  When it's all said and done, five years in the future meets us in the same position we find ourselves in today and sometimes in worse positions.  We create a cycle of HELPLESSNESS based on our own inaction and devices and are always able to find one of many reasons why things are the way they are.  None of us ready or willing to make a better tomorrow based on the lessons available to us today nor the Istory we have to direct us into the future. 

As a result of this 'slavery mentality', we as a people are forever in the position to be neeeding leadership and guidance or we simply fall along the wayside, like babies, taking anything and everything we are dished out as TRUTH and REALITY due to the fact that we just don't KNOW any better.  We end up with self-fulling prophecies with the only prophet's being ourselves and the choices we choose to make.  We choose freely to do what we do in the manner in which we do it and when things don't work out we cry and whine and start back singing the so called, 'Nigga' Blues' over and over again, first to ourselves, then to our children.  Hence the cycle of helplessness and singing the BLUES Itinue to be a noose we place about our own necks which eventually leads to hostility towards others and eventually turned back on ourselves.

Nuff Love

Sistah Vee

[BabaFats]

Bless Up
Seen Sistah.  Thank you for the uplifting statements.  InI agree that many Idren nah try to move forward.  Instead of finding the strength in themselves or Jah, the Idren find the weakness and blame in the past.  While I agree that schools should teach black/African history, all education is important and usefull.  Jus because most schools only teach white/European history doesn't mean any I should ignore it as a whole. Jus nah take it all to heart.  Question the answers, and find out for Iself what InI want out of life. 
The I has a great post on Reasoning InI would like to comment on,  but InI will wait till more time is made available.

Peace and Jah bless, friends
Evan

[sistahvee]

Bless Up BabaFats

That is what InI meant by 'Don't Listen to Those Nigga' Blues...  We need to change the station to one more productive and more able to encourage change, one playing a tune of re-conciliation and upliftment.  Stopping, the 'POOR ME, POOR ME' and moving ahead, Pushing FORWARD.  NOT being held down by the events of the past.

Nuff Love

Sistah Vee
Posted on: March 17, 2007, 09:38:19 pmBless Up Family

InI dropped in to take in some Rasta Chat and found that the same ole' same ole' was still playing here.  Some Idren just won't stop playing with fire until they personally get burned.  There's nothing to be done.  To each his own.  However, it's truly too bad that we don't realize what we have until we lose it.  InI praise Jah that Rasta Nick is still holding the forth and this Reasoning forum is still here when InI log in.

DisRaspect is DisPaspect regardless whether it's coming from a black, white, red, yellow, brown, blue or purple NIGGER.  A Nigger is a FOOL.  Is that what Rastafari has come to then?  A Bunch of FOOLS with no regard for anyone but themselves?  InI can't take much disRaspect from likkle boys posing as men, no matter what colour they present their case from.  InI ain't sitting and taking no disRaspect from no likkle girl neither, black, white or pink.  But InI RASPECT for RASTAFARI over-rides InI's personal feelings.  When InI have a choice, InI always choose not to be a Nigger, and to RASPECT this thing called Rastafarian, cause JahJah has been good to InI. 

So as InI was saying to an Idren earlier today, in the end some of us is just going to have to change the station we're listening to.  Hearing the same arguements over and again gets tiresome.  If only LIFE was as simple as a disagreement or as simple as a colour.  BUT it is not.  It is with preserverance and forward movement that we'll tune out those Nigga' Blues.  Yes it's difficult to get together when the water is stormy, BUT no one said it would be easy.  Are we going to allow terms/words like NIGGER and WHITE BOY to keep us at this junction or are we going to get up, brush ourselves off and go again?

Nuff Love

Sistah Vee

[EmpressCarla]

Blessings

I don't like that reference: "nigga blues." I have to say, it just rubs me the wrong way to read that over and over again. Perhaps because I was born in America, I have a different overstanding of the impact and implication of the word "nigga" as it's being used here. While I do know or see some ignorant folks sometimes, it is not always "nigga" blues that they're singing. Many people do make excuses as to why they cannot move forward in some ways. I would even venture to say that most people do. Whenever there is something that InI are not ready to do (even though we should), we can think of an excuse. So with that in mind, then I guess we ALL sing dem nigga blues sometimes, nuh true?

Rather than separation and differentiation, it is high time there was more compassion in the world. Many who are down just don't know how to get up, or that they hold the power to get up. That doesn't make them a nigga. Perhaps it makes them someone who is afraid, or simply just unaware. But certainly not a nigga. In America, for 400 years of oppression InI have only gotten 40 years of civil rights. So perhaps it is not solely our fault that we may only be 10% of the way there.

Next time, rather than seeing a "nigga" (and perhaps the embarrassment that the "unaware" reflect), InI might try to see that some are just walking around blind to some things. InI should cause the blind to see. Or if we can't do that, at least don't add to the obstacles that are already in their way.

Be blessed

[sistahvee]

Bless Up Empress Carla

It is nice to hear the I's voice again.  The reference to 'nigga blues' was NOT meant to be liked.  It IS a derogatory term to say the least.  Unfortunately it's not about being blind.  It's about being Deaf, Dumb, Blind and still making foolish choices.  The word Nigga has NEVER had a positive note to it.  Yet so many of us allow ourselves to be classed as such.  We go out of our way to adopt many nigger ways.  The level of arrogrance and Ignorance it takes to pull down and trample on others says already that the one is capable of making choices.  Not Knowing and refusing to Know are two different things.  One just did not know.  The other Knew but did not care to Know.  Hence the term, 'Nigga Blues'.  It's NOT a sweet song to make love to.  It's a song that takes away one's power of choice.  One's Overstanding of others.

The Empress is utterly correct in that the world needs more compassion.  Those who are down and want to get up will take the pre-offered hand and get on their feet.  Others will attempt to pull one down in the mud with them.  Yet others will refuse the offered help regardless.  So yes, it is unfortunate, but nigger is a disgusting term and used only in dirty situations.  InI do not use it lightly.  It tears I's heart that it is a Word yet used.  But not only is it used, it is lived and some are proud to call themselves such.

To have compassion we must first LOVE ourselves.  We must overstand this Love in order to Manifest it.  Campassion is born out of the Manifestation of that Love. 

Nuff Love

Sistah Vee

[EmpressCarla]

Blessings SisVee

Give thanks for the opportunity to reason in humblestanding.

Sistren I am confused. The I states that the word is negative and derogatory and that it tears the I's heart that the word is even used. Yet the I uses it so freely. Regardless, the word is out there so if ones choose to use it, I just have to get over it. I know that. Heck, to be honest I do use it myself sometimes. So it's not so much about the word per se (it is, but it's deeper than that). I guess I simply disagree with what the I is referencing as nigga.

I do overs your point is that many choose to wallow in self-pity and make excuses simply because they don't want to do the things that they ought to. And that is true in so many cases. However, it disregards many of the causes of this laziness mentality. No man is an island unto himself. Many things are caused by outside forces that then become internalized. Such a one must then not only pick themselves up out of the mud, but first they have the job of UNlearning what has been subconsciously planted for centuries. Is it still their job to do? Of course. But again I ask, where is the compassion for that one?

For a one to change themselves, that is the most difficult thing any of InI can do. It is easy to see the thorn in another's eye, yet monumental to see AND remove the plank in our own. So again, where is the compassion for the lost ones? Even the one who (seemingly) prefers to drag others down? For that same one is still JahJah's child, are they not? That same one has just as much POTENTIAL to create a better tomorrow for themselves as the one who comes out the womb making all the right choices.

I see it this way: ones can overstand if a person gets sick. They will go visit them and do things for them, be there for them. But don't be sick for too long! Be sick for 2 weeks, sure. But don't be sick for 2 years! For after a while, folks get tired of you and your sickness. They don't care to hear about your aches and pains cuz they've heard it long enough. But if that person is still in the midst of their suffering, their pain is just as real on day 730 as it was on day 1.

Be blessed

[sistahvee]

Empress Carla

Here's the first place InI used the term Nigger Blues.  It was an extreme poem at a poetry show.  It was never intended to offend anyone, as the I can see, it's the story of many.  


Don't Listen To Those Nigga Blues  

It's like this, See
I was listening to those Nigga Blues and I didn't sign no deal that says I have to raise these kids alone
My Black Ass is Tired..  I'm a mother and a Doctor, a teacher and a Friend...

I thought it took two..  Like a mother AND a Father... Like company in the welfare office, where Black means Trash
Like when we went to bed, man..  Like when you enjoyed hitting it, and kicking it
Not like when you hit a home run and took your ass off

Blackman you're not suppose to leave the field..Not when food and milk and clothes cost real money...
Don't laugh Blackman, this joke ain't funny
Don't you know he needs a father, Someone to teach him not to kill his brother?  I thought it took two?

2 Guide out of Danger,2 Make Leaders instead of statistics, 2 Make a future, 2 Lead us on, 2 Ain't that clear Brotherman
Pick up your cross, come play your part

I was walking down the road, feeling like a toad, my mind on serious overload
Not knowing where to go..Ain't had no cash flow
Just surviving another day, feeling good when the sun goes away... Cause darkness I'm familiar with, Like a drug it's replaced my faith

See, In the Darkness my Blackman returns...  This time he brought with him a ring, but see here's really the thing
Back then I was young, kindda cute and headstrong..  That day is still on my mind..You see my Kingman asked for my hand
I didn't know it was only for a time, cause when I was counting year four, my Kingman picked up his ass and walked on through the door
He didn't come back no more, unless he needed me on my fours, where his hands became Big paws, preparing to use me like a bitch

But hold on..Take a Pause, see I ain't no Dog...You wanna use me and abuse me until you need to eat again, not just my flesh this time, but my deliverance?  My decision is to leave now..Don't know how, just gotta go...See I ain't nobody's whore.

Whoa..Blackman, don't listen to those Nigga Blues...
Have we moved from slaves carrying cotton, to becoming dogs carrying fleas...
Don't you know that you're a man that can please me?  And you know just how to tease me...  So why you keep leaving me, man?
Why do you believe when they say that you're a player?
You're my friend, Blackman, My lover and a provider..

Stand Up Blackman..Don't Listen to those Nigger Blues...

[EmpressCarla]

Blessings

Give thanks for the poem, sis. I feel the Fiyah. It's real for sure. But sis, I could flip the script and say to you, don't listen to dem Nigga Wombman Blues.

By that I mean, your poem tells a story that's known and been told time and time again. And lived by SO MANY of InI. So I have to wonder why we wombman don't stop singing those blues and why we don't stop allowing men, black men or any other color, from treating us so bad. It ain't nothin' new, so I guess some of us just internalized something external, seen? So I guess we need some compassion thrown our way too.

Be blessed
Posted on: April 04, 2007, 10:03:44 pmBlessings

Speaking of "Nigga": http://www.youtube.com/v/wD-UpHlB9no

Be blessed

[sistahvee]

Bless Up Empress Carla

Wombmen cannot stop singing 'those' blues until their situation changes.  They are NOT always in Itrol of what to do or Not do when things go bad.  Empress, there really are not many single fathers raising children with no support.  Fair is Fair.  A slave cannot demand freedom from his master.

If wombmen COULD stop men from abusing them then we'd be one step closer to what we seek.  But it's like asking a Rape victim why she didn't fight harder.  Or why she wore what she wore.  Does those facts change the Fact that someone Raped her?  No one has the right to vitimize anyone else.  Male or Female. 

And yes, some of us do Internalize things.  That sometimes gets out of Itrol as we never notice when we've gone too far until it's too late.  Some stories are hard to hear over and again, some are not worth hearing at all, some are worth all the time we give them.  Wombmen and Children are NOT in the same bracket as Men.  Men, regardless of their colour, walk away.  They have the choice on how often to see the children.  Wombmen don't have that choice.  With that said, there are some awesome men, of all classes and colours that are making their Queens and children proud.  They walk upright and know the Love of Jah.  They are the exception to the rule, however.  That's why when one finds that Iverstanding among Man/Wombman, it is to be treasured.

So should any of us lower our standands and listen to those Nigga Blues?  Obviously NOT. 

Nuff Love

Sistah Vee

[EmpressCarla]

Blessings

I had a long response all typed up and as is always the case when one states clearly everything they want to say, it somehow just gets lost in internet oblivion!

Rather than attempting to restate everything, since it most certainly wont' come out the same, I'll be brief and just state that wombmen need to make better decisions concerning their lives so that they don't have to sing them nigga wombman blues. If the I is telling men not to listen to those blues, the same should be told to the sistren.

Concerning wombmen you wrote, "They are NOT always in Itrol of what to do or Not do when things go bad." But what about BEFORE things go bad? Men don't make a 180-degree personality change and just up and walk out the door. Wombmen need to stop blindly trusting liars posing as men and instead look at the fruits of the Spirit. Stop ignoring warning signs and instead listen to their intuitive wisemind.

And so this doesn't just turn into a man versus wombman thing, I'll bring it back around to the original topic. My point is that if there is a such thing as "nigga blues" then ALL of InI are singing those blues at one point or another in our lives. We are all dealing with negative and positive vibes. So we must deal with each other with compassion. The man who walks out on his family has to live with that decision. The person who decides not to get a babylon education cannot complain when he/she finds it difficult to survive certain obstacles in life. No matter what InI will reap what I sow. So I should strive to sow a good seed and to be wise.

But I am no better (or worse) than the man or wombman who has yet to see the error of their ways.

Be blessed

[sistahvee]

Bless Up Empress Carla

InI have enjoyed this Reasoning with the I.  Now I will formally make I's personally opinion known to the I.  With InI working with and for abused women it gives I a slightly different direction that the I.  Not much however.  For the most part, InI fully agree with the I's statements.  It is a double-standard of a sorts.  But it is a double standard for wombmen to be left holding the bag and others saying 'get up and stop whining'.  If that wasn't the case we would have more murdered husbands and less dead wives.  Abuse is an issue that unfortunately mostly women are faced with.  How many battered Men shelters does your state need?  In Canada we have one that InI am aware of and it is NEVER full. 

That does NOT say that Abuse of men is right, it just means that as a wombman, a children's rights activist and abuse counsellor, I am familiar with the plight of the wombman and make no attempt to speak on behalf of the men.  Have the I visited those battered women's shelters lately?  The wombmen in these places are a mess.  Of course some of them made bad decisions and choices in their mate, but that does not make it alright to blame them for their abuse.  Yes I, wombmen need to stop blindly trusting 'liars posing as men'.  They do need to start looking at the warning signs.  And that's why public education is bringing awareness to these issues. 

This certainly is NOT a man verses wombman thing.  Yes, some of us are listening to various forms of 'nigga blues'.  Some of us wombmen keep repeating our mistakes over and again and ending up in a cycle.  But in courses like, The Assaulted Women and Children's Counsellor Programs we are educating younger and younger women to take stock of their life and life choices.

Through Dramatic Acting and Extreme Performances we are getting these wombmen to look, listen and see themselves.  The Good, the Bad and the Ugly.  In a generation or two things will get around to getting better.  AIDS will be under control.  More Men and Wombmen will work together in areas such as these.  And Learning is growing.  With time the Wheels will get Balanced. 

We do not need to agree on the different ways of seeing things.  Circumstances for the most part makes us who we are.  Choices for the most part makes us who we are to become.  Both of us accept that we are NOT perfect nor do we have all the answers.  But it is so wonderful to be able to see things/concepts from another point of view.  Can InI just say thank you to the I, Empress Carla for bringing accross the sentiments of so many.  And InI cannot find any diagreement in the I's personal thoughts and my own.

Stay Blessed

Nuff Love

Sistah Vee