I an I was mentioning that he was wrong when he critisized the King.... MARCUS loosed almost all of his followers after he made that statement as they were saying he prophecied about the king then now he's against the King (just like John the Baptist)..then that means he's not a prophet...Thats what they were saying .... I an I not going to go back and forth with this as I dont see a reason to argue about something I know...I nuh deal wid hear say,read say,feel say and think say as that just lead to assume say...I an I know say and dont need to prove say
Bless
RAS CHUCKY
First of all, Marcus never lost "almost all of his followers after he made that statement" for his message spread on. Malcolm X (even his earthly Father), Martin Luther King, many African freedom fighters too, will even tell you where them learned/where them teachings, that they spread, originated from. Marcus had more followers than he "lost" (if he really did lose any at all).
Many Rasta musicians still mention him nowadays and before. A tree can not exist without its roots. Besides, where did John the Baptist go against what he preached in the start ? I am just asking this question cause you mentioned him - not that John interest I at all.
So if one criticize something that one sees as "not-fitting" then automatically one is not a prophet no more ? Who made that "rule?" Who seh so ? Did Selassie say anything about it ? Did he answer to it ? Why not ? I am sure HIM got word of what Marcus said. Further more, where is the "argument" here as you put it - are we not here to reason bout things like this ? This is not no "hear say" as you put it again for these things did happen i.e., HIM went into exile and Marcus did say what him said. So me nah see no hear say here. This is based on facts.
Me nah care who nah see Marcus as "not being a prophet" for I can sight him for I self and for I he is more than that. He is the spark of Rasta and without that spark there would be no Rasta. He is the roots of this whole "way of life." Like I mentioned before - no roots no tree. Hope you overstand what I man saying.
prophet7
Posted on: March 09, 2007, 03:13:08 pm
InI apologize for any offense I have caused to you prophet but overstand, InI am searching for an answer. We, as Rastafarians, follow Selassie I, the King. Which means we accept his divinity. Now anyone who chooses to speak ill of that which is divine, especially of the Holy Trinity is committing blasphemy. And Garvey did speak ill of Selassie I. So how am I to accept these words? Are you saying you agree with Garvey that Selassie I the King was a coward who shamed all Negro people? If not, please explain to the I your reasoning upon the words of Garvey which InI have put forth. InI know of the good Garvey has spread over Rasta people but if you read the article you would agree with InI that it cannot be looked over it MUST be reasoned upon. As of now, InI agree with Ras Chucky but InI would like to hear your reasoning prophet
You have caused I no offense Idren - I am just posting how I sight it. We are all entitled to our opinions and are all here to learn from another. Just because I answered to your post does not mean I am offended by it. It only mean that I nah agree with some things that were mentioned. So lets reason about this whole subject - that is why were are here.
When was this concept of "a Holy Trinity" created/formed ? You can do research on it even here on the net and come up with the truth. The answer is - long after Yeshua existed (if he did exist in the way the Ible say). Now I am not saying that there was no Messiah but, according to the way the Ible puts it....But, that is another subject and I do not want to get into that now for it is not the reasoning of this thread. Just giving you a point to begin with.
You have to check the time in which Garvey lived in, check out what situation black people were in at that time, check out what Garvey went through, check out the whole thing before you can say anything about it. Those times were not now Idren. Those times were not easy, still not is now, but the burdens were much more heavier. Marcus had every right to say what he did. Why HIM nah say something about it ? Like I mentioend before "I am Sure HIM got word of it." Who feels it knows it.
So if HIM had nothing to say about it, why everyone else do ? Why every one feel it neccessary to defend HIM and put Garvey in a "bad picture?" Take HIM example on this if you follow HIM.
prophet7
Posted on: March 09, 2007, 03:36:15 pm
One more thing I want all on this thread....If HIM "King of this World" was it then neccessary to "run away" and come back to fight another day ? Yeshua did it too. Me nah overstand why someone who "created I and I," someone who made the world and all in it, someone who is a very great part of creation, have fe run away from the devil. Does that make sense ? If the world is your "footstool," then what you run away from ? Who can then force you to go into exile ? If you are in control. These are things I think Garvey contemplated on and, just like I, see no reason for.
I can see why Yeshua gave up his life or ran sometimes. It was prophecy. But if you believe in the Ible, well, the King of Kings is not gonna come fe run into exile (maybe his MOM would - another negativitiy the Ible mention, and again the "blame" on we-men (women) but...) - HIM come to conquer. Marcus probably asked himself this question too. Maybe not in the way I do but, I am not him. Again, I just hope you oeverstand and think about these things before you tend to fight I down. I know many nah like fe hear this but, according to I, them nah like the truth when it face them. My truth ? Maybe. Whose truth them follow ?
prophet7
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