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« on: March 08, 2007, 07:50:49 AM » |
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Who is jah? and are jah and H.I.M. similar? i no who H.I.M. is now but not the best understanding of who jah is
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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2007, 12:26:14 AM » |
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Jah is God's name, a shortened form of Jehovah. It is in the Bible, unfortunately InI cannot recall the passages but InI am sure one of the Idren will know. Some Rastafarians see H.I.M. as the reincarnation of Jah as the Christ. Others see him as Jah in human form, or the physical symbol of the Christ. Ultimately, it is up to each individual Rastafarian to decide what he or she belives.
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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2007, 12:35:50 AM » |
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Ipinion: Jah is not to be termed as who, is not defineable in that sense. Jah is in I, Jah is the sum of all which is here naturally, and all of Creation. Jah is Creation, and Creation is the work of Jah. The Great Spirit Jah Living Creation. Jah is everywhere and in everyone...hence I & I. Seen? H.I.M. is a divine messenger of Jah.
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2007, 12:40:22 AM » |
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The way I see it is that as you said Jah is in everything everywhere all the time. But HIM is the incarnation of all those. There fore he is God because He is all of that which is godly.
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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2007, 12:53:51 AM » |
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Greetings
As the I can see..I an I as rases will have different answers but if the I look closely the I will see that in the end they come back to be the same...example of the responses combined in one... "JAH IS WITHIN EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE..JAH IS CREATION...JAH IS NATURE...JAH IS PERFECTION..H.I.M IS THE ONLY PERFECT ONE SO THAT LEADS TO H.I.M BEING JAH IN FLESH" its about self knowledge as things are revieled to us gradually as I an I grow and each gets a different piece..But regardless of the difference..If one look closely at the differences... actually after discussing them deeply they will be the same...Just in a different light
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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2007, 02:31:57 AM » |
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RasTafarI has shown that Imanity is the KING AND CREATOR OF THE WHOLE UNIVERSE, JAH. That Almighty G-d is a living man. But not just any man mind you. For there is truly only one man. One Identity to which the billions of people on earth and all of creation are subordinate and ultimately but a fraction of, HIM Haile Selassie I. Who thereby answers any question regarding who JAH is.
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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2007, 02:56:34 AM » |
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JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! RAAAASTAFAAARI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2007, 01:00:21 PM » |
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Idren and sisdren, me try to explain dis ere little problem. Many rastaman b tinking dat Rasta is da true Christ, yet e who b tinkin dis way dont see how tings really are. Rasta is the perfect example of Yeshua Christos, but he is not him dat even tho I am in Christ, me no Christ, seen? Even if me rastaman, me no Rasta, seen? InI is plainly called by Haile Selassie to be one in love n unity, in Christ. Rasta know da truth, dis why he the earthly leadya of dis ere Ethiopia Orthodox Church. Rasta seen dat whiletime he in Christos, he nevear one time say he be Jah. But if Jah is in HIM then Him he be, seen? Yeshua is d only way dat dis ere rastaman can be escaping dis armygeddyon. Jah is the Father of all rastaman, no matter he white or black. Da little book of d psalms b speaking of Jah and how dis ere name of Jah is. ChapIter 68 talk bout dis. ONE LOVE!
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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2007, 04:10:17 PM » |
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The I say there is a problem? If so its only the I's. Not I and I's. Rastamen do not think that "rasta is the true christ" for the Christ has a full and proper name. The I's inability to articulate that calls into question the I's competence to speak on the matter not to mention raises eyebrows to a ones intentions. We dont need unu telling us about yeshua because His Imperial Majesty has already made such matters very clear. RasTafarI is We who have already escape. big up the exodus massive, byron bay
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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2007, 04:40:22 PM » |
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A harsh response Elijah to somebody who is posting as a " Newbie " You have a lot of knowledge and wisdom, and so you have the capacity to explain and help this person to overstand. That is a loving way. Jesus explained things in simple parables so that he could convey his message to all manner of people. Please, share your deeper understandings. One Love
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« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2007, 05:38:28 PM » |
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Blessed Love, I man not sure how long the I been observing here Ms. Baz, But I and I get so many staight enemy false preacherman post here that for the conversation not to quickly degenerate this is the response thats needed. I dont know who this aussie is. He could totally be fronting all that Iyaric and really be a white supremacist fundamentalist come fe disrupt for the billionth time. I can explain anything he like but he gots to come correct, with Imility.
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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2007, 08:43:44 PM » |
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Idren and sisdren, me try to explain dis ere little problem. Many rastaman b tinking dat Rasta is da true Christ, yet e who b tinkin dis way dont see how tings really are. Rasta is the perfect example of Yeshua Christos, but he is not him dat even tho I am in Christ, me no Christ, seen? Even if me rastaman, me no Rasta, seen? InI is plainly called by Haile Selassie to be one in love n unity, in Christ. Rasta know da truth, dis why he the earthly leadya of dis ere Ethiopia Orthodox Church. Rasta seen dat whiletime he in Christos, he nevear one time say he be Jah. But if Jah is in HIM then Him he be, seen? Yeshua is d only way dat dis ere rastaman can be escaping dis armygeddyon. Jah is the Father of all rastaman, no matter he white or black. Da little book of d psalms b speaking of Jah and how dis ere name of Jah is. ChapIter 68 talk bout dis. ONE LOVE!
No desrespect Idren but the I seems fake I an I know all about the ORTHODOX..as a matter of fact I'll be there later today.....As a ras the I would have known that one must not attack another in the manner the I did....As rasses as I an I explained..one will find deferent overstandings..As a ras one must overstand this and state their overstanding and not by attacking another's overstanding... Each of us have a different connection with JAH as I an I are dealing with the half thats never been told and thats what lead to different overstandings...Overstand that IYAH! AND THE WORDS OF H.I.M "No one should question the faith of others, for no human being can judge of the ways of God." Bless
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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2007, 10:02:03 PM » |
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Greetings Elijah I
Thank you for your response. I appreciate that you are defending Rastafari from false preacher men and false prophets - and rightly so - as it is written in the scriptures, in the last days many will come saying I am He but they are wolves in sheep's clothing. I often take a back seat and read the posts for a while - sometimes it is easier to see the whole picture from a distance. I also try to look at how outsiders (guests) will perceive the forum. Sometimes, I wonder how all the forum members would get on together if they were all physically present in the same room ! So, I think we must all align ourselves with the Golden Rule as posted by Sistah Vee.
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« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2007, 10:14:30 PM » |
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Actually I would love to be ina position to arrange an event so we all could meet. I suspect that once put in the same room we might conduct ourselves witha little more grace!!!
Any event managers out there???
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« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2007, 10:19:02 PM » |
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Yes please Nick - but special request, could this room be in a really nice location, with just the right weather ? Maybe a whole weekend, with good music and food - sounds like a holiday. Who's paying ? ( only joking )
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