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« on: April 19, 2007, 05:17:24 AM »

i was just wonderin y is they viewed upon as bad in rastafari isnt tobacco a natural plant from earth like ganja and aint alcohol made from natural things from the earth like fruits and veggies.  any responses appreciated thnx on advance
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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2007, 10:51:14 PM »

Greetings,

 Well the reason alcohol is viewed as bad is that Babylon makes it. They use it to suppress the people and it is unnatural. All kinds of chemicals and such. Not to mention wine is made from grapes which are forbidden. And tobbaco is also Babylon. Now if its all natural organic tobbaco and you only use it alittle it wont be to bad. But cigs have so many chemicals and such that they are horrible.

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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2007, 11:33:58 AM »

Sure Ital (organic and naturally unprocessed) alcohol and tobacco aren't as bad fe yah.
Tobacco grown traditionally by Native Americans and used in a conscious, spiritual way, and alcohol used medicinally for herbal tinctures are used by some Rasta.
But Alcohol made chemically by Babylon, and consumed as a "relaxant" and social lubricant are not the sort of scenes yah will find Rasta comfortable in.
Most Tobacco/cigarettes are full of carcinogenic chemicals, this is "deadening" as apposed to Ital.
Rasta view the body as a temple, so things that harm the temple or dull the consciousness and make the body clumsy aren't seen as desirable by Rasta.
Try playing reggae under the influence of Alcohol! It doesn't work.
More Biblically versed Rasta will show the I passages in the Ible showing Jah frowns on drunkenness and "alcohol culture".
We Ras like to keep our faculties intact, ready for whatevers coming, setting examples rather than following fashions.
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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2007, 02:47:55 PM »

Bless up bredren

Fe real Nya, Alcohol & drunkenness is a wicked poison. Its entrapment of de mind, body & soul when under de influence.

Bless Up.
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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2007, 07:17:48 AM »

wasnt wine the blood of christ?
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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2007, 08:20:06 AM »

wasnt wine the blood of christ?
I've been thinking a bit about that. What kind of a heathen ritual is that, drinking the blood of christ? Nail him on a cross and drink his blood... Some way to greet the redeemer, eh?

Well, each to his own. Everyone will receive their bigger judgement.
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2007, 02:02:55 AM »

"alcohol make you drunk man, it nah make you meditate"  -Bob Marley

Like 505 Rasta said, its made by babylon, Iman dont know much about its effects, as I have refused to drink it, but it hurts the liver, and probably the brain.  no matter what it is made of it is not ital or natural, its made by babylon.
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2007, 02:41:54 AM »

ganga can be abused just as alcohol can iguess. i and i got in a fight with the i's brother. about it. the i as a heavy drinker he is was saying how everything is bad and ganga is worse. it got a little out of hand
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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2007, 10:00:29 AM »

Him saying Ganga is worse shows his ignorance.
Do some research, alcohol isn't a remedy for glaucoma, or ashma, parkinsons disease, or anorexia, or given to people to help them eat and hold down food during chemotherapy, or given to psycotic people to calm them down, or used as a meditational aid, Ganga is.
Ganga is oxygenating, alcohol is toxic, there is a major difference.
And look at the social toll, do people routinely get high on Herb and beat people up?
No
The worse that usually happens if people have too much is they go to sleep.
Some will blame their mental problems on Herb, but I and I know that their thinking is erronous to start with.
Herb makes yah look at yahself, not so alcohol, like Bob say.
Herb is one of the safest  substances there is, no one has died of Herb overdose, ever
Check Lester Grinspoon.
Check Joan Bello.
They are on-line yah will find them if yah do a search.
They are Experts on Medical use of Herb and have written books on it.
I trust and hope that yah can articulate the truth to yah brother, it is so important that we combat Babylons lies about Herb.
Herb is the healing of the Nations!
I and I am living proof of that.
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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2007, 10:42:30 AM »

seen bredren,

ye its right alcohol and tobacco made by babylon
can make yuh bad,it can cause some illness that for drinking
or smoking it...

its better for ye to drink an coconut juice or coco wine,
than alcohol... Wink

or to plant yuh own tobacco for ur safety...

a plant what JAH created is good what ever yuh call it...
ganja,marijuana,herbs,bong...
InI having an illness on mah lungs,I cyaan run too fast or
do some work to0 heavier..coz mah breath is not normal...
smoking the herbs is making InI feel good,making myself more
stronger and smart...doing my self more creative...
*meditation*

correct!
herbs is di healing of di nation!!!

JAH RasTafarI!

LOVE 2 ALL!
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« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2007, 05:03:15 AM »

NyaInIJahLove thanks very much! i and i  is going to go bring that up right now!
jah bless!
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« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2007, 10:16:58 PM »

Im new to this forum and still learning about Rastafari but in the Bible it says it was a quickly put together meal and i think Jesus just wanted to sit down and have a meal with his deciples before the moment he knew was coming and also he didnt really use the wine for a bad purpose he used it for a message to try and teach his diciples the way.
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« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2007, 05:23:23 AM »

Marijuana is the Hola sacrement.  High grade is the eucharist that is why the Rastafari Incients sip from the cup.  The healing of the nations is the 3 in 1.
Stems mek fabric, seed grind to meal/cereal, flowers are medicinal in composition.  Hail the Trinity

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« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2007, 10:52:35 AM »

Bless

As everybody has already said cigarettes and alcohol are products of babylon to make money off the weak, foolish and ignorant. they damage the body and alter an Idrens consciousness and distort what is righteous and what isnt. As well as that H.I.M condemned the use of alcohol an Selassie I word is law.

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