What ever gave you the idea that color gives me any of the above described feelings?
isnt this thread about a group of words that together have, to most people, a meaning?
I was describing your action in the form of written words, i do not assume to know your feelings, that is why I ask questions, to gauge where the I is coming from.
I did not think we as a group have come to any conclusions regarding the words, collectively, theis thread seemed to be created to find if there was any collective meaning, evidently there is much confusion and reactiveness regarding these words, and we were talking about the concept in a Rasta context, not in African city context, where African people struggle with western influences, often to their detriment, which is expressed in the speeches of His Majesty, does the I want quotes from His Majesty?
Yes and I do know African people kill each other and have the same vices as non-African, but I know of few western women who can intuit when their baby will urine, and few western people who could even survive the harsh conditions that many "non-white" and african people endure daily....still to this day, without losing their sanity, so I feel some compassion and some curiosity, certainly not judgementalness as the I seems to elude to.
Ah i see well you came across in a very LEADING THE WITNESS sort of fashion.But now you cleared that up [lol] its OK. Well still the presumptuous almost judgmental nature left over but again OK i don't feel no way!
Sorry I did get a bit carried away, I admit to having the vice of asking pointed questions, and I'm not trying to be judgemental, I'm trying to overstand your perspective.
Again thanks for the enlightening lesson into the color spectrum perhaps you would care to comment on a book i once read written by J . ITTEN ? Well maybe in another thread!
Sorry bro, i haven't read that book, maybe If I had, I would overstand the I more, why don't you enlighten me? I'm probably just as confused as anyone about this colour/race/skin/culture stuff.
think it is more of a problem for you than me, personally i don't see that many differences between African culture especially the Africa of today.. Mind you that of yesteryear doest differ to the west of yesteryear in fact thinking about it, they lay even closer together than one really imagines.So why do you seem to harbour all these divisions ? As you brought HIM into it I KNOW HIM WAS CERTAINLY NOT PROMOTING THAT. !!
What did he not promote?
i think he supported people right to explore their cultural identity, for I think he knew that a people who know who they are culturally, will be able to transcend that when appropriate, for the sake of unity and peace.
True enough explore away is what i would say without which there wouldn't be any progression in anything.Not that i am saying we should progress on all plains ! mind you!
BUT changing the meaning of words isn't in my opinion a form of EXPLORATION so not really in this case a valid argument is it.
Further more has nothing to do with ,exploration that is,COVERING UP foundation beliefs, hiding what basically racist is! Look i have no problems with a bit of REVERSE psychology, but please when you get caught out at least show a bit of honor and ADMIT TO THAT.
Yes i know from what you have written IT SUITS YOUR PURPOSE........
I feel that words will always be limited by the consciousness of the people saying them, and , as people evolve, the meaning of words expands, it is simply consciousness expanding its reference of meaning and it is just as individual as it is collectively agreed upon.
What is the I trying to get I to admit? clarify please.
I believe in supremacy of consciousness, and yes, I do think people of colour show more development in that regard collectively, planetarily, so I give credit where credit is due, despite the fact that most of my "white" Idren havent a clue why I raspect "Black" and "non-white" cultures so much.
We as a planet of being have been heading in the predominately "white" "male" testosterone driven direction which is clearly detrimental to huge numbers of humans, animals, plants, water and even the planet itself so Yes, why don't we try the "Black" way a bit more, and by "Black" of course I mean enlightened "Black" and not the extreme desperation brought on by poverty, exploitation and other forms of de-moralization which causes some "Black" men to kill, abuse and "give Up" in so many ways.
I hope this clarifies my perspective bro, maybe we can progress out of this word mess and start the real work of community building, and peace, sustainablity and prosperity creation so sorely needed.
If some people within the rasta movement have expressed dissatisfation with this "white" culture, I feel they can be forgiven, due to the extreme treatment of lack of love and yes "rasicm" they and there ancestors were subjected too by predominately "white" people. I am not excusing it, but I think it is overstandable. I do however reserve the right pull any "non-white" man up when I feel womens right are being violated, or childrens, just as I would "white men", I am not saying "black" is perfect, but I don't think we, as a collective have really tried to overstand "black" "brown" "red" or any other coloured culture of enlightened living, with raspect and openmindedness,
Blessings
Nyah
Posted on: July 04, 2007, 11:20:26 am
Ah again a bit presumptuous !perhaps it all part of your master plan?who knows!
No, simple observation, I have seen very little positive feedback from the I, most of your posts seem to be one tracked and objectional.
I have written you off tho, I don't presume to know the I well enuff to do that, however it would be nice to see if there is some things you DO agree with here.
I find building on things we share in common a community building approach, and being openminded about our differences helpfull.
as for a "master Plan" that would be pretty much the same as most people, I want a future for all children, a sustainable lifestyle, the freedom to be myself in safety and some friends who inspire and stimulate me and who I do the same for, oh and a sanctuary where I can bounce Ideas around with loving, intelligent people, maybe even collectively solve a few problems that plague so many and help some people.
there, am I demystified for yah?
Posted on: July 04, 2007, 11:30:30 am
I have written you off tho
sorry, typo, that should read I have NOT written you off tho.
Raspect
Nyah
Posted on: July 04, 2007, 11:32:34 am
oops, sorry about the spelling, I didn't proof and left letters out, hope its not too difficult to overstand.
One Love
sis Nyah