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Topic: Why Are Rasta Women treated like slaves and less than their counterparts? Replies: 39 posts
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« Reply #30 on: October 08, 2007, 08:33:03 AM »

Do you have evidence/proof that rasta women are treated like slaves?

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« Reply #31 on: October 17, 2007, 10:50:24 PM »

Blessings to all Ises,the love patience overstanding and knowledge shared here lifted I spirit so high .All I's are truely blessed and doing the works of the Almighty Jah with such dignity and grace.InI fulljoy these reasonings with the joy and upliftment they bring.May Jah continue to Bless Guide and Protect InI and all I Blessed Love.
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« Reply #32 on: October 18, 2007, 07:14:25 PM »

Quote from: EmpressCarla link=topic=4525. msg63361#msg63361 date=1187166296
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Greetings sistren.  You state that you wish to have "evidence" provided to you in answers to your questions.  Yet I would ask, where did you get your initial information that formed your question of "why are their women subjected to being child-bearers, having no equal say so in businesse matters and so forth?"

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It is true that many in Rastafari see the wombman as relegated to being servant to the man.  However, my observation is that this mindset is simply leftover Judeao/Christian thinking that is at the root of this moreso than anything else.  You have to realize that probably most Rasta people were/are coming from the Christian church.  And the ones who cite the wombman as inferior refer to the Bible as their "evidence".  Yet at the core Rasta is Love that cannot be easily seen from the outside. 

With that said, InI all have natural roles in this earthly plane.  Men cannot bear children, seen.   And children are viewed as a blessing from the Most High, never a burden.  So being a "child-bearer" isn't something subjective.  It is a privilege to be the chosen vessel of Jah's light.  I guess it's all in how one looks at things.

Bottom line, downpression in the form of misogyny is not specific to Rastafari, though it most certainly can be found within.  But go look in the pulpits of most Christian churches and count how many wombmen you see.  That is changing in recent years, as it will in Rastafari as well.  But the roots of it can be found in Christianity, not in Afraka!

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« Reply #33 on: October 23, 2007, 11:11:20 AM »

I queen is treated as such - like a queen. She and Jah are the most important things in I life, much more important that Iself. Everything I do in I life is either in service to Jah or to her. She is a slave to nothing, if anything im her happy and willing servant. Just thought I'd share that bit of balance. Jah bless.
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« Reply #34 on: November 02, 2007, 07:09:25 AM »

Bless Bredren and Sistren
Love to new forum member Epress AliJah~Welcome sistah!!!! The I is a so welcome voice, if I may be so bold as to speak for the forum and say the I is such a positive contributor!
And Blessed Bred MaoriLion, I wish more Bredren would take the I's attitude towards His Empress as an example to show them the light....!
I cam here today for a little vent, as if it is even slightly true, the topics assumptions that is, surely having a voice makes us less slaves to our Patriarchs and more Slaves to Jah and Love, meaning the ability to do JAh Will, while sharing of our individual natures...as generalizations of any kind have a danger of stepping into non-reality by their very nature
I and I can attest that RastaFarI is about becoming Free in Jah True, however woman in I position and of cause sooooo many women, especially non-white woman...have life oh-so tuff and hard
For One, many have given their bodies to bare many children and so we become slaves to our youth in a way, I personally have 7, 5 of which are boys....
I find Iself with an overload of work and yet insufficient energy and hands to make much headway, so plod along at a snail pace I do, Jah is giving I the opportunity to develop much patience
Yet I Men in Jah Family try to help, some
A womans load can often be soooo heavy
their is the food to prepare, the baby to breastfeed, the garden to tend, the children to tend, the hokmemaking to attend to
and then the Kingman to assist,in so many ways and yet little money for many of we
Yes Kingmen will often spend more time smoking Herb, yet I think this is an improvement on being aggressive
Woman will often feel the Maternal instincts to assist youth men and women in their community
and yet it is the Kingmans duty to discern the ones who deserve this Kind-loving and protect  his family from the abusers and the ungrateful
Women can be put in a compromising position if they are too tolerant and yielding and so embracing some masculine qualites of discernment and assertion are helpful, as the Bredren are not always attentive of the needs of the Sistren....
I and I a slave to Love and to I King
and I make no apology
Yet I treasure I mind and Heart and body, so I can continue I work
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« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2007, 08:41:42 PM »

Give thanks Sistah . The overstanding and righteousness in which the I talks always a joy to see.
As a single mother of four beautiful Blessings of the Most high InI give thanks.InI have Jah all day Ivery day giving I health and Strength to care for I family. I dont blame Jah or Mon for how I destiny has revealed itself InI know that Jah will never leave I side.Jah has revealed so many Blessings in InI  Life that I give thanks .He will never give I more than I can carry .So InI have to be joyful through I struggles and tribulations for InI know Jah have a plan and nothing comes before its time.InI teach my 3 princesses that life is no joke ting and that as a princess when the time comes its Jah first and raspect and Honour must be shown to Jah and their Kingman I teach I nI little Prince that Man has an important role to play and that man and womban were created to compliment eachother, two sides of the same team working together yet differently to achieve peace love and unity for his family. They  overstands how hard life can be at their tender ages but they know that when a new day greets them they have been given the greatest Gift Life and give thanks.They know at times and not through times Womban has to be mamma and papa and has to be the provider protector and carer but they also overstand that with Jah there is nothing.So for all the Lion dem give thanks fi yuh queens love them up validate and appreciate the love they bring into yuh lives, and fi all the queens remember yuh king have burdens that as mon dont like to worry their queens love peace and overstanding fi yuh king ah di greatest ting .Some times by saying nothing  but sharing everyting just by the look in yuh eyes and a warm embrace can heal a heavy heart. Give thanks.
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« Reply #36 on: November 06, 2007, 01:27:44 AM »

Lovely Sistah!!!!
Give thanks!!!!!
Your strength and grace gives strength and Grace to I!
All Glory to JahJah!!!!!!
Your beautiful children are fortune indeed to have such a wise and loving mother!!!!!
I and I know that, as long as I keep inviting Jah to take ova and Guide I everyday, He will lead I further into His eva-loving grace and give I the strength to achieve His will!!!!!
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« Reply #37 on: November 06, 2007, 09:08:18 PM »

Give thanks Sistah
Jah a InI life and  breath without Jah I am nothing.
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« Reply #38 on: December 15, 2007, 03:11:36 AM »

Rastafari: Roots and Ideology, by author Barry Chevannes anthropology professor UoWI Kingston.

page 176;In the commune all females must cover their legs and arms.  Women are confined to looking after the children and performing other household chores such as cleaning and washing.

              The place of all females is below that of all males, regardless of age.  As a "King-man" or "God-man," the male child is held up as being superior to all females even though the latter are often referred to as "empresses. " The subordination of women to men is characteristic of the Dreadlocks in general


page 177;A woman may serve guests, but may never serve Bobo males

              He is thirty-seven and has been a Bobo for seven years.  During this period he has not slept in the same room as his wife.  Whenever he wants, he has sexual intercourse with her and then leaves.  Women, he says, distract from meditation. 


              If a Bobo is faithful to his marital union, his sexual activities are limited to Twelve days out of a twenty-eight day cycle.  The other sixteen days, his wife must remain hidden from the view of all men.  This is where the "sick house" comes in.  Sometimes her period of defilement lasts longer than sixteen days.


*This is why she asked the question and this is why it's a good question.   No where has a prominent figure of the Christian faith expressed these kinds of views.   So, for her being a Christian not being exposed to these rituals she is questioning their origin and the reason behind them.
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« Reply #39 on: December 30, 2007, 11:47:44 PM »

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this is a depiction of  Bobo Shanti, the most strict order of Rastafari, and only the concept of a professor, who has probably only seen it from one angle, and never tried to see the other side from the perspective of the Queen. it is not a general rule concerning Rastafari roles, and is extreme and presumptuous... a bit like the Times book of World religion, which suggested that Rastafari smoke weed without exception,  nurse an inborn hatred of the white man, and that white people were not considered Rastafari.. you would probably quite enjoy that book, actually.. it deals with half truths, just like your professor of anthropology.

Almost every Rastawoman i know is revered and supported by her kingman.. if she were not, he would not be considered Ras according to Jah teaching..or his peers, were they aware of the situation..whether he had dread on his head or not is immaterial.
 Our roles are considered different but equal... vital to the growth and support needed to raise healthy well rounded children.
i should know.. i have lived this life for nearly 25 years and never have i felt more Empowered, more loved, more cared for, than with a conscious Ras King. they kick ordinary men up the arse!! Grin

  WITHOUT exception, EVERY Rastawoman i know considers it an HONOUR to care for her loved ones, not a burden or a chore.. to the Ras Queen, her family are her treasures, her home her castle, her husband her King.

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