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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2007, 07:57:16 PM »

same for rasta idren,

u may not be intending to convert but it sounds like it brother


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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2007, 10:39:35 AM »

I think youre having these revelations because Selassie ISNT GOD. he tried to tell us that while he was alive too.

dont get it twisted!!!
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« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2007, 03:51:46 PM »

I think youre having these revelations because Selassie ISNT GOD. he tried to tell us that while he was alive too.

dont get it twisted!!!
dont get it twisted???
you claim rastafari but deny his divinity?
you read too much about rasta facts and figures and dont feel it
knowledge is nothing without perception.
maybe you should stick to eating snakes.
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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2007, 04:49:03 PM »

Blessings Idren,
Doubt is within each of we.  The only absolute thing is change. We will all change , in time, in one way or the other. 

If One is to seek Jah in this time, one only has to Look within and without.  We see the Blessings of Jah all round we in the eyes of the people we meet.
If  One Feels and Knows Jah to have come to us, in this time, in some of our lifetimes, as a Man Then The Life of His Imperial Majesty and the Times in which he lived should stand to  show the Struggle People of the world have had to endure , and Still do, As a Light of Jah the Most I.  In this Irit, we see the Love Of Jah for We, and it is this Standard of Love and Raspect for the Most I we Keep close to ourselves.

If we begin to Doubt , We need only to look to ourselves to see that WE are Charged with this Faith, and that All Jah children are part of a single Family.  Not ALL people see Jah as Man.  But, does this turn  us from Jah Love?.  or How we sight our brothers and Sisters?.  I and I feel that each has a view, and it is Through our personal Relationship, and How we treat each other DAILY, and Keep ourselves in this Love and  Way of Life, that we shall be Judged for our lives.

It is not by dead~i~cating ones self to a system of war~ship (worship) that we try to give ourselves to a Higher level of Reality, and make the world a better place.  If each of these systems show that to gain the Love, we must hate another~  This is the breakdown of the message.  Many times  I and I have had to stop the Negativity that has crossed I mind and it has only been the Strenght and Love Of Rastafari Philosophy that has stopped I man from spiraling downward.  To think of the self as lucky for the Blessings bestowed pon I and I family, and use this template for going out in the world and showing this Over~Standing in a way that asks the other to ask of themself, is this a free flowing Idea, or is it grounded in a greater truth.

We all seek to Know the truth, and for some the truth has revealed it self, but for others whom do not grasp so hard, and have not the NEED to know the truth, they have given in to this Love of Greater Universal Truth, and in this WE ARE ONE.
Bredren Nicro,  I and I would like to know what the I thinks of the people of both faiths.  Islam, of which I man do not know in depth, has a radical branch which blatantly show a lack of value for another life.  Rastafari, As far as I and I know, has only stood for this Love and Reverence of the Most I , treating all Jah children with the Love His Majesty has shown and Itinues to show with the example HIM has given we.

Either way Bredren and Sistren, it All Jah will and All thanks and Praises to the Most I, for this is our world.  It has been a Blessing to share I thoughts with All.
OneLove.
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« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2007, 05:44:09 PM »

very nice words brotha, filled with wisdom.
thanks for sharing it with us..
blessings.
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« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2007, 11:32:48 PM »

easy people
                  To talk of doubt in H.I.M. requires firstly Individual Ipinion of H.I.M. role and position within the world....If sights hail H.I.M. as a man, can there then can be no room left for doubt, as all mortals are prone to a balance of good and bad? If sights hail H.I.M. as higher than a mere mortal, yet lower than JahCreation, can then doubt have likewise no place, as logic may suggest that all movements would have been determined by JahCreation, and whether or not fully overstandable by I's, would all have a distinct purpose in the overall scheme of things? - as a flower opening, when we are not yet at the moment of full bloom, the final position of this petal or that petal may as of yet seem unclear......
 If sights hail H.I.M. as JahCreation Incarnate, then in order to reason on doubt, must one define firstly the Idiosyncratic interpretation of the omnipresent? What expectations are there of JahCreation? To what extent can the almighty or manefestations thereof be over(under)stood?  In this respect, would Isight be clarified by spectacles of scriptual Holiness, or directed by inner-nature, as intangible and emphemeral as Life Itself? In common with the physical state of beings themselves, Infinitley variable Isights and reasonings will in timing and structure be found to differ from eachI to the next....so how can any kind of concensus be attained in matters such as Doubt In H.I.M.?
  One phrase tells us that God made man In His Image -but the image of man differs to widely, whilst retaining the same identity.....-look deeply and thoroughly at an Image of the Face of H.I.M.- how many mortals have bourne a face of such complexity that appears to have the unique quality of encompassing in One, something of the Image of each Tribe, past or present, of Humanity. So perhaps this would suggest that H.I.M. is divine? Maybe, but there again, another phrase tells us that the words of the Ible were inspired by God (yet written by Wo/Man).....logic and calm observation illustrates that people have innumerable multitudes of differing circumstance and experience, resulting in similar diversity of Ipinion.....that which inspires thisI, may not prove so compelling to thatI......so perhaps it may be the case that the image isn't a paramount truth, therefore questioning the afore proposed indication of Divine status?
  If it is the case that H.I.M. is, or, according to Individual Ipinion, was, not the Almighty Incarnate, but of fleshly presence whilst also bearing a stature of greater significance than Wo/Man, a.k.a. a Messenger, do the actions taken as an Individual have any bearing on the Message itself?
 Allowing for the assumption that history has but one path; that all truth lays on that path; the fact remains that history is spoken with voices and memories of millions, and the truth is presented in a bewildering array of differing pictures. Thus, we hear of goodness eminating from the movements of H.I.M., yet we also hear of badness in held in conjunction with H.I.M.. It may seem fair to conclude that the realities of the matters may lie somewhere in the middle; that to reach the truth, one must start from both ends of the stick and work towards to centre. So what is the truth? Can anyI speak with absolute certainty, of matters which have taken place not before their own eyes nor ears, nor even within their own lifetime?
 Truth would appear to be one essential key to unlocking a door with many locks, behind which answers to eternal questions may be found.
 Metaphorically speaking, if one were to take Good and Bad, the twin elements of reality, roughly equal in proportion, then make alterations to the mix, would an excess of Badness dilute the Goodness? Or would sufficent Goodness render Badness with a façade of acceptance?
 For all His ground-breaking movements on the world stage, there are voices who suggest that as an individual in his own realm, H.I.M. presented a very different figure, whose actions often did not  serve the best interests of his people. If one credits these voices with truth, does this mean that a display of human failings indicate that H.I.M. is/was, Was a man and no higher, merely elevated to a higher standing in the minds of Wo/Men, by historical fate?
  If it does, then does this indicate an Ipinion of JahCreation embodying nothing but goodness, so as set JahCreation apart from Humanity, with a Devil Figure occupying the other side of the ring?
  Or, may it be the case that JahCreation embodies both goodness and badness, a perfect balance of Ying and Yang, and that a messenger or personification of JahCreation will likewise fit the same discription?
  Can one fully define the boundaries of reality, history and truth, or does one just stay within an area of familiarity- is it the case that truth as told within the confines of one philosophical movement may be applyed over truth of another....is/was/will there (be) just one truth, or are there a multitude of contradictory truths in co-existance with oneanother? Is it just Us, or is it Us and Them?
 What Iman getting at, is that one simple thought leads through to an unimaginably large pool of consciousness, with as many un-aswerable questions as there are answers to questions.
  Maybe reality, history and truth may be likened to roots......there may be tens of thousands of root ends, as fine as hairs, within a given area......not touching oneanother, nor even heading in the same direction, yet if followed backwards, they will all lead into one, and become the trunk of a mighty tree.......which growing upwards, branches outwards, bearing leaves, flowers and fruit.
As a leaf, I do not nead to fully appreciate the intricacies of the roots, because I know we are all connected by the same trunk. I need only turn to the sun and soak up the beauty of living.

I-man Ipinion:  Ignorance (to a certain extent) is Bliss.

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« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2007, 11:42:29 PM »

it is only natural for a human to question things.
there for you will some times question your own faith, and for me that always strengthens my faith in HIM.
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« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2007, 07:14:32 AM »

FreeformRas, I loved reading what the I had to say....
The I's conclusion is gratifying....to much thinking what is truth can take us away from the simple truth and goodness of being alive ina human body.....non in form is infallible..in I sight...even His Majesty or the Istorical figure of Yeshua....but a common love of Life and JahCreation brings all faiths together...as for ones who seem to worship death...I pray their souls see JahLight to guide their way home.....
OneLove is a simple answer to many complex questions for I and I
Blessed Love and Guidance
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« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2007, 02:28:34 PM »

is'nt this doubt on HIM why we have different branches of Rasta??

I personally do NOT see HIM as JAH but surely a prophet and a direct desendent from king david!

I praise HIM because he earth rightful ruler!

this is why we have differnt branch of rasta because we view him in different ways.

Also as its been said here on this topic, just as importantly as worshiping jah, we RASTA have to show the true meaning of love, respect and unity,

We will show an example how to live
we will shwo the true meaning of One Love
WE RASTA ARE EARTH'S PEOPLE!
Cheesy

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« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2007, 02:24:30 AM »

Greetings Idren,
Bredren freeform, nice to see the I put forth the reasoning, there is, as always much depth to the words that touch we all.
Sistah Nya, Always nice to see the I's flow of thought in words.  The phrase OneLove is something I man have touched on with I Queen this week end, and will look forward to thoughts on this topic.
Bless~up everytime.
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« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2007, 10:24:52 AM »

Iya Higher Ites I-mily.
Give nuff thanks fi all di answer dem. Nuff wisdom, deep.
I&I heart get cleared wit other ras Iditation.
I&I own "conclusion" is dat we must be sure dat our own likkle ego nah will destroy our faith in His Imperial Majesty Emperor Haile Selassie I The First. Nuh braintwisters, nuh bad iditation.
We must try to concentrate on the truth, istead of what's not secure & sure in Iya Iditation. Reality instead of lies and braingames.
Again Thanks Family, strengthened I&I (already strong) faith.
ONENESS

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Well, Iman think dat The New Testament is a important part of di 12 Tribes' faith, so I&I ´nah observe Iself as one a dem. I&I may observe I-self as "judeo-ras." Raspect fi Wisdom, bredrin.
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« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2007, 07:20:44 PM »

bless ras adam,

greatest respect to all that have posted,

much love and wprds of wisdom spreaded

till next time

bless, roots
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« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2007, 10:43:00 PM »

Ises unto the Most Haile I,
 
As the Idren Fiyah stated a while back, "it is not God who created God, it is man who created God that created man."  HOLY I, SELASSIE I, JAH RASTAFARI
Rastafari don't come with confusion or illusion nor the left over stagnant mindset of western hemisphere slavery.  Burn those out of ones being and check for the reality of Rastafari(3 in 1) mind/body/Irit, past/present/future, sun/moon/stars, man/wombman/child, birth/life/rebirth, etc.  Blaze out the doctrinal chains that have blinded many of Afreecan heritage and others who seek of righteousness but know not where to start. 
  The be"lie"f vibes are where the doubts begin because when one knows something there is no room for doubt.  This is a groundation teaching of the Rastafari Incients(Patriarchs/Matriarchs) on which the King's I-way is paved.

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« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2007, 06:05:52 PM »

Yuh say "bun" to all dem who nah accept christian trinity-doctrine?

I&I would say that nothing is true but JAH.
No one in here knows the accurate truth bout anything. Only JAH know.
And personally, me nah like to much a all dat bout special mystic systems like sun-moon-stars an so on.
The number 7 should be the Holy Number of JAH an symbolize HIM spirit.
It is bout faith.

Ites ONENESS Selassie I
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« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2007, 10:02:34 PM »

yes very true Ras, all we can do is try to live as clean as possible.. seen?
blessings.
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