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« on: September 08, 2007, 09:45:48 PM » |
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Greetings Idren of JAH Almighty always!
The subject Iman waan fi reason is doubt in RasTafari Haile Selassie I. Iman a very serious ras taking mi faith really serious, all my life is based in the beliefs of JAH. An I&I pretty "orthodox" in mi belief. Iman observe I-self as a very strong an steadfast believer in HIM, but Iman mind can sometimes play tricks pon me. The problem is that sometimes in I I-ditation, I have a few times not seen Selassie I as The Almighty. If Iman mix up all Iman infomation, put it together, sometimes it nah mix well. Sometimes my mind tell me dat Haile Selassie I is not JAH, on basis of facts an I-story. And it is all tings like His personal story, His wars, and other tings that make Iman doubts. Small tings, small elements. I&I feel bad an nah waan fi end up as a new Marcus - one with doubt in the real God. It's not because I'm doubting all di time, or every day or every week, but some minutes or hours I meditation brings me another place. Iman observe dat I am 100% sure bout JAH - the almighty good that rules all. Im just like only 99% sure dat it is Haile Selassie I, and that's me problem. I would like to hear mi Idren Meditation pon dis, and hear if any other have di same likkle issue. Iman know that in the end, Iman get the acceptance of JAH almighty for searching fi Him. Let's help Iach-other pon a righteous path, family.
His Imperial Majesty Emperor Haile Selassie I Blessings and nuff raspect Ras Adam
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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2007, 10:06:48 PM » |
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That used to happen to me. Then it became days and weeks with thoughts constantly changing so now I am converting to Islam.
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2007, 11:03:42 PM » |
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I used to get that a little bit when I first started getting in to Ras TafarI but the more I search for the truth the more InI know in my heart that he is Jah . what kind of things make the I think that HIM isn't Jah? maybe InI can help the I more.. blessings. ke.
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« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2007, 12:53:51 AM » |
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Bredda Nicro: We all have our path, in I sight, so Iman just congrats yuh wit yuh new overstanding. But me nah christian nor muslim.
Bredda Ke: Yes I, Iman know. As I write, it is only few minutes or even seconds that Iman may not be convinced of the truth. An example of all di small tings dat together can make my (sinful) doubts bout Haile Selassie I is dat He has children. 7 children. If JAH have children, what a dem? And what bout the ones from His family dat is still alive today? Because we all JAH children, trace back to Adam & Eve. And... Selassie I lost two of his children, when they were very young. Why should JAH let this happen? Iman nah believe dat JAH gave birth to two children just to see dem die. And it is just all these small tings runnin aroun me head when I&I I-ditate to come closer to H.I.M. Hmm, I think that part of I problem is, dat me nah accep me brain (own I-ditation) as "THE TRUTH" - there must be some facts, and maybe some scriptures describing, prophesizing or telling it. And me nah observe the "New Testament" - so The Book of Revelation and all dat nah work fi Iman. So me cyaan find answer in deh. Selah Ites, Idren.
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« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2007, 04:56:27 AM » |
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Thanks Ras Adam. Yes I went through much thing like that. Such as yours and how is God man? Disbelief in Jesus alterations of Bible incomplete thoughts within RasTafari and H.I.M. death.
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« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2007, 01:30:29 PM » |
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Well really we have to find answers that work for us hey bros? Christians won't see Mohammed's divinity, Moslem's wont see Christs, but really divinity is everywhere, omnipresent...... to overstand Rasta more......read his majestys words......Spirituality - relationship between each person and their Creator Blessed Love Nya
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« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2007, 01:38:57 PM » |
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Give thanks Nicro. Yes I, but me see HIM as the personification of JAH. When Haile Selassie I "gone" - HIM nah really "gone" - Him nah dead, because JAH cyaan dead. That's how me see it. And Yes I, me have this great disbelief in Jesus as Christ, Iman have never believed in him as our Savior or as part of mi God. And some things about HIM points out Jesus as the one we should worship - from interviews and all dat. So if me see His Imperial Majesty face to face one day, and Him say "The Real Messiah is Jesus" - then Iman a Jew. Then Iman convert directly to Judaism. Me have problems wit the messianic issue, some of the tings prophesized to happen, hasn't happened yet.
I&I stand tall as JAHJAH Selassie I Souljah if not JAH show I&I otherwise! All this doubt (even though it's actually not much) is hard to deal wit, when it's all my life it's about. I&I nah waan fi "wake up" one day and "realize" dat my life has been based on false prophet or even God. Me never stop loving and praising JAH - Yahweh - Adonai I! - The God of Jacob, Isaac and Israel which saved me people from the hands of Egypt, under the lead of Moses I. Never. But some seconds - me can sometimes doubt in HIM as the ONE. This is mi problem, Brethren. Selah Ites.
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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2007, 05:50:54 PM » |
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I believe every thing happens for a reason and we are all a part of Jah's plan so if he feels we need to die I will be happy that I will see HIM and live in peace for ever. so InI don't see death as a bad thing. also when the I has a doubt in the I's mind Jah is testing the I's faith in HIM. so when the I reasons and and finds HIM the I has gained more wisdom and Jah knows that the I has gained more strength. blessings. ke.
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« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2007, 05:56:38 PM » |
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seen Ras Adam,
We all get doubts sometimes, and truth always reveals. so search for the truth,
looking through your early replys on this topic iman would say that you could be a member of 12tribes/similar. but you no see Jesus as Christ.
we all get doubts brother, but you stay strong.All the points you are making are good points about HIM children and other tings. remember humans are all different,
We Rasta are all similar but we tred on different paths, believe in different things, interperate different text, but i tell you what we same, and thats love and unity. So going through this phase about JAH just keep strong and stay true to other things you belive in. keep loving and keep respect to all.
really hope Iman done ok here and helped you out (i hope!!)
Bless Rootsridge
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« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2007, 08:00:49 PM » |
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couldn't have said it better my self brotha. blessings. ke.
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« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2007, 09:08:07 PM » |
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@ Adam. Well I could never see how God could be a man. God being Omnipresent, Omni knowledgeable, and forever living could never be a human. Also in Old Testament it say God rested on seventh day. Why would God need rest? H.I.M. even denied being God. What would his children be? Bible favor men over women while Islam holds both equal. And the God of Israel would in fact be Allah, as the Quran teaches.
@ Nya, Muslim dont view Muhammad as being divine. Both him and Isa(Jesus) Moses, Abraham, ect are all simply humans.
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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2007, 01:37:13 AM » |
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Sorry bred, wrong word perhaps.....I am somewhat familiar with the Moslem faith thru sufism...which I adore...and the bahai Faith...that is a offspring faith...I have family in the Bahai faith...so not totally ignorant..... anyway gotta go...I had a point that I havent time to clarify... soon come OneLove Brudda Sistren Nya
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« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2007, 09:09:37 PM » |
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Greetings to One-and-All,
how good and how pleasant it is to read across such a deep reasoning. Give thanks for that to all in here. Just want to share my point of view. I see the personality of His Imperial Majesty as fullfillment of biblical prohecy from Moses who blessed Judah as the ruler, to the Psalms of King David to the book of revelation. What is undoubtly truth for me, is that Haile Selassie the First is of the blessed seed of the house of David, to which was given the rulership over all the earth and if you read along your bible (the testament of my faith) from cover to cover you might find H.I.M. revealed in the book of life as the true and living Lion of Judah, King of Kings and Lord of Lords. No itīs on the human to accept or not and trodding that road isnīt easy. You wonīt get a full proof except at the end of times when judgement will be spoken onto each and everyone.
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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2007, 02:30:01 PM » |
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@ Adam. Well I could never see how God could be a man. God being Omnipresent, Omni knowledgeable, and forever living could never be a human. Also in Old Testament it say God rested on seventh day. Why would God need rest? H.I.M. even denied being God. What would his children be? Bible favor men over women while Islam holds both equal. And the God of Israel would in fact be Allah, as the Quran teaches.
@ Nya, Muslim dont view Muhammad as being divine. Both him and Isa(Jesus) Moses, Abraham, ect are all simply humans.
sounds like magic to me.would one man listen to the other man if he said he was god?all your ideas of god are what man has told you,being omnipresent and all that jazz magic, yet you cant see god as a man?if your converting to islam then maybe its best to try stop converting other people before you end up sounding like a mindless robot with facts and figures crammed in your head regurgitating the same thing over and over.and as far as muslims seeing women and men as equal that is one of the biggest lies ive heard in along time. Posted on: September 12, 2007, 02:15:49 pm
i understand your dout, but you have to justify selassie i in your own mind, how i see it is god will not crack open the clouds with a mighty roar,be the size of a sky scrapper with a big booming voice galactic power like cgi or something out of a computer game,i could explain everything but i dont have the time right now,in a nuttshell i see selassie i as god of man,he came to us as man to interact and be man with us,flesh of his flesh,abit of guidance and wisdom to help us with things to come,
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« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2007, 10:52:31 PM » |
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I am not trying to convert I am simply stating what I thought. I see God in every man woman living and non living being. And how is it that man and woman are not equal? Before Islam do you know what was happening in the Middle East? Female infanticide, and all woman being sex slaves and objects. Once Muhammad(pbuh) he taught all men and women being equal. Each has the right to choose what to do, and are respected.
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