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[prophet777]

Since hundreds of years the question of "blackness" or, "being any other "thing" than white," has been allways seen as rascist, anti- semetic, or whatever other bullshit. Yet, it was those that created it that made it to be as it is ! Now, whenever I write something likWhy are you in this "RASTA" movement ? Just to join it ? Just to be rasta !!? Just smoke weed, live off the land and watch the wrong that you could correct and sit there and do nothing about it !? That is what Jah want from you ? To live your own free life and not care about justice, truth and rights !? Not care about those millions of VICTIMS (mostly innocent children) !!?

I think...no I know that most of you join it to be "high"....simple. This ain't no hippy life ! Believe I you are "high." So "high" that it will take miracles to bring you to the level of being human (you-maan), Yes maan. These words will allways have an impact to those that are in it/those that concioussly or un-conscioussly, deliberately cause it to be so. That is why there is so much negativeness in what I say...according to them ! That is why people like I get the "fight." For saying it as it is !

Rasta was and still is, and will allways be a movement against those that fight Rasta ideologies i.e., aginst opressa. Fact. If rascism did not exist (rascism did not exist until color was braught upon by whites) we would still be fighting "slavery," "injustice."

It is really strange that you all are in positions to judge I and I as being the cause of what your forefathers caused and at the same time tell I that it was your forefathers who created it - rascism. How foolish can you - man be !?

The cause of I peoples reactions to your forefathers hate is now (through you) making I seem to be the one that caused it. LOL. And then they ask "what have we got to do with it - we are not our forefathers." LOL.
It seems it has gone to a stage where I really think that most of you are indeed fooling themselves....brainwashed. You can not - even if you wanted to - see the reallity of this whole situation. You do not live it ! Even if u join I - does not make u I !

It is worse for you to even try to join I with such a Babylon mentality ! And this is not about whites only - nuff "uncle toms" out there too ! The only difference is that I can UNDERSTAND I Idrens and why they do what they have to do, why they are forced to do this - it amuses I to see how many fight these words !

Since hundreds of years every other has got what they call "compensation" for what they have been through. Every one else - except the "black peoples" of this world. Ask yourselves, before you jump to your forefathers concepts, if that is right ? Has that got any thing to do with justice ? Yet you are ready to jump in Rasta before you can swim ?

For all of you that do not like I - what are you gonna do about it !? I Definately am not one of those fools that will kiss your arse I am the beginning and I am am the end - your so called "Alpha and Omega" ....I am the beginning of all and I shall be your end. It starts by I and it will end by I.

Read your bible. Seeing it is the only thing you respect and believe in.

prophet7

[surfmon_I]

Blessed Love and Raspect ,
Sing it!, Shout it!, Burn it!.  Lift it up to the Most I !. 
For, in the end we come to stand alone for the things we have done.  These feelings of Power, expressed by the Brethren and Sistren are not to be offensive, unless we find them offensive.  for if one does find it offensive, one must be able to see some of what is offensive in them selves.
Prophet man, Nuff love for ya. The I Know that.  Yet as I watch how and why we come here, it seems this "Rastaness" is a thing which is not for which we need to defend amongst ourselves.  I see how upset ones can get, and then we sign off.  WE read, and learn, and then sign off.  What the I is speaking of is a fire that burns within each, but it is not a comfortable, warm thing.  No, it is a burning reality.  Many, such as I self have come, spoken a funny language (on this site)which symbolize our progression as we learn, but many time, our meaning is lost in the attempt to sound "rasta".

The power of the subject, and the feeling of putting ourselves in the I's perspective is difficult because we are not you.  We need to express what we want to get across to others realizing that we are here together, in this moment.  some will fall away, some not feel the need to be heard so much.  But still we come.  We take these topics, along with current events, and absorb them.  We MUST react to them some how, for if one does not, and it is not pondered on, then ones MUST be HIGH.  One thing for sure, WE CANNOT BE HIGH when we deal with such serious things.  It would be Dis~graceful before the Most I to be so weak. 

So what's it gonna be?.  Highness?, no. Humbleness?, To whom?, those who laugh at Onelove?, No. 
It is our Each own responsibility to commune to Jah.  Flow in the river we have been cast upon to do Jah work, and then surrender with a smile, our spirit for Judgment.  Let our lives be spent truthfully, with Light and Love~Though we be surrounded by the worst we can be, we are also equally surrounded by the Best.
We might do better cultivating , not the extreme other side of humanity, rather, trying to spend more time toward the middle.  There float the souls of goodness whom have been shadowed from the light. A place I had been for a long time shooting from selfish self centeredness thinking ,"what is wrong with every one"

I man never find such power to be offensive, just Individual.  This much I have learned,  There is certainly a little bit of you in me, and me in you.  That much is honestly clear.
Be Blessed,
~S~

[I ELIJAH I]

http://carolnovack.blogspot.com/2007/09/new-anti-simitism-article.html


    If nothing else, Whites and Blacks seem to be able to agree to hate the Jews. We’re just happy to see you talking again!!    Rasponding to the Laughat7’s recent rant would be a mistake, But I will use it as an opportunity to express how irresponsible and negligent I find, the ‘black’ and other communities seeming tolerance and even support of such bigoted speech and sentiment. Unity at all costs, abstaining from correction, even when a member of the communities illusions bring nothing but disgrace to those he claims to represent, seems to have taken precedence by some so-called ‘Rasta’’s, Over what I had always thought was the foundation of the Rastafari trod, The Truth.   
             Some here may have observed the recent barrage of anti-Semitism that exists also on Ark I’s ‘Rasta’ forum, Sparked by comments I made regarding the emperors ancestry and ‘black’ peoples hypocritical stance regarding their connection to the throne in that regard. As is the tactic of ignorance which seeks to overwhelm reasoning not with truth but force and sheer numbers that made them also ill advised to raspond to other than with this brief Icleration.
       There are also heathen that come to Rasta sites, Spreading propaganda and new age humanist doctrines of order less paganism trying to lead His Majesties people into hell. These philosophies are based ultimately on Fascist White supremacy. But because it comes under the banner of downstroying ‘the Jewish myth’ which some so desperately need to justify a separatist non’iblical agenda, ‘rasta’ people fill their plates.

Bon Apetit’ From the House of David.
           

[Human]

"Every time that you find in our books a tale the reality of which seems impossible, a story which is repugnant to both reason and common sense, then be sure that the tale contains a profound ALLEGORY veiling a deeply mysterious truth: and the greater the absurdity of the letter, the deeper the wisdom of the spirit."

Moses Maimonedes, Jewish theologian, Historian, Tlamudist, Philosopher (1135-1205 a.d.)

"Woe....to the man who sees in the Torah, i.e, Law, only simple recitals and ordinary words!  Because if in truth it only contained these, we would even today be able to compose a Torah much more worthy of admiration....the recitals of the Torah are the vestments of the Torah"
 
Zohar

The Old Testament/Torah is NOT A HISTORICAL BOOK, only small parts are, it is a collection of writings written in allegories that contain a deeper mystery, mysteries of the heavens and cycles of life. This is not paganism, whitesupremacyy philosophy, or anti-semetism, this is the truth.


"Jewish mystics are at one in giving a mystical interpretation to the Torah; the Torah is to them a living organism animated by a secret life which streams and pulsates BELOW the crust of it's LITERAL meaning; every one of the innumerable strata of this hidden region corresponds to a new and profound meaning of the Torah.  The Torah, in other words, does not consist merely of chapters, phrases and words; rather is it to be regarded as the living incarnation of the Divine wisdom which eternally sends out new rays of light.  It is not merely the historical law of the Chosen people, although it is that too; it is rather the COSMIC LAW OF THE UNIVERSE, as Gods wisdom conceived it.  Each configuration of letters in it, whether it makes sense in human speech or not, symbolizes some aspect of God's CREATIVE power which is active in the UNIVERSE."
                                                                          Gershom G. Scholem

[I ELIJAH I]

Its probably best that you just keep letting Jews speak for you 'human', since the minute you open your mouth contradictions of hate resound.   Any book containing some amount of historically accuracy can to some degree be considered a historical book. Even if you capitalize your folly.  You and people like you can't accept the Jews because it means your likely either a gentile or a heathen unless you bow to our G-d. Which you not willing to do because of anthropocentrism and a deeply ingrained vanity born of anti-semitism. The fact is that no one will ever know exactly what went down 2000 or 4000 years ago. Some can speculate and hold beliefs based on certain 'discoveries'. I and I, Defenders of the Orthodox Faith, Feel confident in placing faith in the accepted scriptures. We view you and people of your ilk who make speculative and often biased declarations against the veracity of our scripture as fact, As enemies of our G-d and His people. 

The Old Testament/Torah is NOT A HISTORICAL BOOK, only small parts are, it is a collection of writings written in allegories that contain a deeper mystery, mysteries of the heavens and cycles of life. This is not paganism, whitesupremacyy philosophy, or anti-semetism, this is the truth.

Stating that the bible is a collection of writings that may contain allegory, and, as is well overstood by any true devotee of the bible, contains deep mysteries and even as I will tell you, their key, Is a far cry from this rant of frustrated vanity...

they say so quickly bun that, fiyah for this and that and all kinds of cute little words which mean nothing to the well educated. The hyksos...sorry, the jews as there called now after leaving/kicked out of Egypt could never represent the incredible wisdom of the Egyptians for the heavens, nor build such great temples compared to them, so they decided to write elaborate stories about the sun, planets and stars and gave them human names and attributes, gave them human characteristics and wrote stories of there movements in the heavens and positioning as if they were battles and great wars, takeovers and triumphs. Sure there are stories of different cultures, polotics,and rituals.Today it is called the bible and great researchers and archeologist's have been looking for signs of these people and wars and temples of gold and writings other than those by the jewish people in there books to cross reference them and to there amazement there is nothing, why, becuase the majority of the major stories are Egyptian king and pharoah stories under different names, atro-theological stories written in human stories, most if not all taken from those they could never equal, the ancient Egyptians, KMT along with babylonian and sumarian cultures.
Here is just a taste of what they tried to portray in writings, but, could never equal the Egyptians.

[NyaInIJahLove]

Blessings Idren....
I have been following the controversy here closely and feel it is I and I time to speak....While I have great raspect for the Kemetic/Egyptian Ancient Truths and Istory, and the Afrocentric side of Rasta does not need to be refuted or challenged by I ...
I hafe say I support the things spoken of by ElIJah as truth to I and I, perhaps not the scathing tones he sometimes resorts to, but the solid foundation of His reasoning.
 One who finds themselves floundering in how to orient themselves within JahTruth need only look at His Majesty and what he Is/was and what He represents...
The Ible is a foundational Mode of Jah Wisdom...
 and Huge Raspect is deserved by and to be given to
 the Hebrew people for delivering such vital Knowledge of Our Creator.....
They are a people with a huge responsibility in delivering this Knowledge and Spirituality and I and I look forward to a greater sense of Freedom and Joy when the people of Israel have collectively and truly "Emancipated themselves from mental slavery and victimhood".......
 as their nation is like a microcosm of all earths people,
 just as I look forward to the same for the African people, who merge and become One with the Hebrew people~ in His Majesty and the lost Tribes peoples found there in Ethiopia and scattered all ova Jah World.
 Not forgetting that Ishmeals people are really descended from the same Forefather as the Isreal people, I and I pray for the Unification of these estranged Brother nations,
 but not at the expense of the Truth!!!!!
No nation or peoples can be free and strong without the solid Foundation of Truth!!!
 even if they fight against it and must submit to the knowledge that we cannot Know all,at this point,
 yet little chinks of Light are given we by Our father/Mother and Holy Son as we are able to assimilate and accept that...
This point cannot be reitereated strongly enuff, the Truth will set we free!!!
So I and I have to want for nothing less than that!!!!
Even if, by standing by what I and I know to be true, I am alienated..... for I Father, the same Father that is the Lord of the Hebrew people, promises I sanctity and refuge in HIM, to stand strong in Jah Truth and be open to Him revealing His Truth thru His Word and I Life....
Blessings and Love
Sistren Nyah I 

[Human]

Your petty name calling does nothing to me, calling me a heathen or Goyim or anything else. I have reasoned with well educated Rabbi's, one of them is my brother in laws father, yes my sister is jewish and what I have said is not anti-semetism which zionists like you love to spout everytime someone says the truth or un-truth about judaism. You need to go back and do some reading rather than pretend you know something and claim it as truth. You have no understanding of who the jews were before they were called Israelites do you, if you did you would understand what I said about the hyksos people. Nothing i said is slander against the jews, it is fact. I let those who wish to study the history without bias make up there own mind as to what i said. If you feel confident in the scripture so be it, that is your right, and i am confident in my views. I dont give 2 shits wether you feel im against your god or not, you can bow down to that so called god if you choose, my god never needed men who killed, robbed, lied, slept with others wives to write anything about the ONE. Your god wrote the 10 commandments did he not, then a few chapters later the Israelites broke every one of them and they were rewarded for there actions, this is a god!! he commanded abraham to murder his son then last minute stopped him for being a good boy, this is a god!! no this is not the ONE, this is a lower aspect of the ONE claiming to be a god and the people bought it...for a while, then they lied, killed,cheated and everything else, then they were loved again by this god over and over and over. I have nothing against the jews of today, I actually feel sorry for them for all the lies that they have come to believe, but, those that wrote the old testament were not holy men if you take the book literally,they did everything against what there god told them in the commandments (which the egyptians wrote before them),  if you understand it as mysteries in allegorical form and in personifications then it takes on a new meaning, one you have not understood in your blindness to your own faith. I will listen to the learned rabbi's and great jewish historians on there knowledge of the torah and not your 5th grade wannabe jewish, indoctrinated in the dead letter form understanding  any day. So here I am little man a disbeliever in your understanding of the Torah, proud and standing firm without any worries of damnation or hellfire or anything else which people say, deal with it.

[I ELIJAH I]

Calling someone a heathen or a goy is not a matter of name calling, its just a matter of fact.   You along with most Jews themselves are still completely blind to the divine, as you think it has something to do with education.  Typical secular egomania. Furthermore, if you knew anything about me and what I am speaking of, you would have realized that I and I recognize Jesus Christ as the King of the Jews, And as the counterpart to the old testament itself.  People like you and Tree-Natty are nothing but mediocre history scholars who know nothing about g-d or religion, Just so called Religious History. So while unus are busy studying books by other heathen scholars and feeling justified and even righteous in your secular speculative "knowledge", I and I are living, Breathing, and Being, the ABSOLUTE Truth of the Bible that is HIM Haile Selassie I. Deal with what? Your atheism? Oh I can promise you, Its got me all out of sorts.

[Human]

Not recognizing what others see as God in the Torah is not Atheism. My understanding of God is "An Omnipresent, Eternal, Boundless, and Immutable Principle"
 
Not a burning bush, a pillar of fire in the desert, a voice like thunder on a mountain top, my god does not go back on his word, decieve mankind, ask to kill ones son, flood the world and kill all living things because ones eyes were open to understand right and wrong, these are secondary powers at best masquerading as the God.  One Love to you.

[rootsridge]

  Not a burning bush, a pillar of fire in the desert, a voice like thunder on a mountain top, my god does not go back on his word, decieve mankind, ask to kill ones son, flood the world and kill all living things because ones eyes were open to understand right and wrong, these are secondary powers at best masquerading as the God.  One Love to you.

seen, Jah is pro life not death and destruction

blessed one ~Inity

[surfmon_I]

Many times I and I wonder at the absolute.  All thru life we are show what ones teach and see that it is a perspective.  I man wish I was able to have something absolute, pure.
If Jah wanted to make we peace, do we expect this to be done absolutely?, I and I think not.  Jah would grant the opportunity for peace.  It would be our job to seek out the path thru the teachings we have been shown.  Yet  I and I still see such absolutism that it shows we have not gotten what we are supposed to be learning.
One Love to all the Bredren and Sistren, Let the learning progress ~ not con-tinue.
Jah Love shower us clean.
~S~

[I ELIJAH I]

Well "You? Man?",  My understanding is that seeing JAH as 'a principle' as you state, is Atheism.

So fiyah bun to you and all dem who come and disrupt RasTafarI class rooms.

[Human]

Well "You? Man?",  My understanding is that seeing JAH as 'a principle' as you state, is Atheism.

You forgot Omnipresent, Eternal, Boundless, and Immutable. I will be happy to reason on any subject anyone wishes, not to discredit or call them names or say stupid stuff like Fiyah bun this or that, that is for those who dont have a deep understanding of that which they say they understand. Im not here to disrespect Selassie, never have, never will, but im also not afraid to question his actions or the written books which make up his or anyone elses faith either, this is anyones right and it is not a disrespectful thing in the least. I am not here to disrespect anyone as well, we can all agree to dis-agree and that is part of the beauty of life and part of the path to higher heights also. Elijah i have said what i feel God is to me and others, Omnipresent, Eternal, Boundless and Immutable Principle. There is so much within each of those descriptions, I would like to know how you would describe God as you see God. I am not here as you know to change your beliefs at all for you are a grown man and make your own decisions, nor I feel am i disrespecting History or jews or Selassie in any way, you may feel so and that is your interpretation of my words and your right as well. So lets reason on these subjects rather than name call or walk away from the conversation by saying I dont speak to heathen or goyim or something similar to that. You can see me for however you like, heathen, anti-semite, white supremacist or any number of ways, but, I dont see you as anything other than a bredrin with different views, one who if fallen i would glady bend my knee to pick up and wipe off, I would share a meal or spliff or shelter with you all the same because that is how I am, I have no hatred or discontent for those who see things different than I. So if you want to reason we can because I dont know everything nor do I claim to, Im here to be taught as well as to teach. So by your answer I will understand your heart, one love to you and everyone else.

[ke]

Many times I and I wonder at the absolute.  All thru life we are show what ones teach and see that it is a perspective.  I man wish I was able to have something absolute, pure.
If Jah wanted to make we peace, do we expect this to be done absolutely?, I and I think not.  Jah would grant the opportunity for peace.  It would be our job to seek out the path thru the teachings we have been shown.  Yet  I and I still see such absolutism that it shows we have not gotten what we are supposed to be learning.
One Love to all the Bredren and Sistren, Let the learning progress ~ not con-tinue.
Jah Love shower us clean.
~S~

InI agree, Jah will give us the chance to be peaceful....
bless up bro,
ke.

[Human]

Anything that is bound, mutable and mortal is actually illusion when looked into, therefore it is not Absolute, the unseen force that drives all things is absolute, Eternal, Boundless and Immutable, this force if you will is seen in the cycles of nature and man. A spark of this divine is within all things yes, but, is never mortal, bound or mutable. One Love.