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« Reply #75 on: November 10, 2007, 03:30:19 PM »

Give Thanks,

First, @Nya- Whatever I, Deal with your ting or whatever. I and I DID NOT come to bring peace. Even the heathen know Selassie I is JAH, So what does your lip service mean..nada. No one loves my Lord and dishonors the order he heads. That's how I know all of you are liars, or maybe just fools. Either way, the only business I have with you is that the board with which you spread confusion represents Ras TafarI, which makes it my rasposability to slew.

@ Oskar, Whats Up Man? Still hanging around bothering Rasta? What evidence do you have that HIM spoke those words? In my opinion, THEY ARE NOT HIM's WORDS, Heathen only wish they were so that they could squirm out of the fact that thier damned, And Until you can sight some authenticated sources, you fit just that bill. Next, There is only one TRUE g-d, But people worship ALOT of false g-d's. Just ask Nya, I think thats something she knows about. 

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« Reply #76 on: November 10, 2007, 03:48:50 PM »

Well, you didn't listen to me, did you? (all)

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« Reply #77 on: November 10, 2007, 07:51:33 PM »

My bad. Apparently it was Matabaruka. (http://www.versionist.com/religions-universe/2261-religion-vs-spirituality.html)

I still think the content is on topic though.
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« Reply #78 on: November 11, 2007, 03:22:13 PM »

Ises unto HIM,

Minor correction, those are the words of HIM Haile Selassie I, if ones listen to the tune, Muta clearly says these are the words of His Imperial Majesty Haile Selassie I at the conclusion of the song.  I will cite the date and venue later.

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« Reply #79 on: November 11, 2007, 03:50:51 PM »

The date and venue of when Muta said it, or His Majesty?
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« Reply #80 on: December 03, 2007, 12:54:20 PM »

 Hopefully these sites will sort out the controversy and bring some more truth to the scene http://www.himchurch.org/
http://www.rastafarispeaks.com/Selassie/
http://jah-rastafari.com/selassie-words/RasTafarI-word.asp
 the words from His Majesty on SPIRITUALITY on the last site should be of special interest regarding this DIScussion
Much Kind and sincere regards
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« Reply #81 on: December 03, 2007, 09:05:06 PM »

give thanks brotha Fyah.
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« Reply #82 on: December 04, 2007, 03:36:18 AM »

@Ms.WartEntity

Yes, the last site is of special interest, in that its run by a Nazi it follows that it would promote a misrepresentation of King Selassie I, while Further validating my assertion that His Majesty didn't said "We must stop confusing religion and spirituality", Supported by the possibility that He/We have never been confused about the "two", of course.
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« Reply #83 on: December 04, 2007, 01:02:43 PM »

Greetings and Love to all Idren,
It is written in dream conversations that, People all think, based on what they themselves have Individually realized that the doctrine they follow is best, even though others do not agree.  They come to see this path as the only path and tend to reject all other interpretations as false, and see only they are right.
What I have been searching for here is the view of what may become of such a strong faith as Rastafari, on the World scale.  Much time is spent on the past and what HIM said.  To be sure, the teachings of His Majesty are Part of the Way.  His World view and Championing of the cause of third world Nations was and IS the Way, for we are all One in a collective sense.
  The Same rain that falls is absorbed and utilized by All plants and living things in accordance with their each own individual root systems.  Still, it is the same water that is used by ALL. It does not make one more important than the other. 
  His Majesty showed respect for all paths tho the Most I and in this  showed us the Way.  I have failed to Overstand Rasta's singular approach, and here Humbly ask,  HOW is that we separate ourselves from what His Majesty teaches to stete that other paths are less relevant?, and is this truly what is supposed to be going on to Do the works and the Will of Jah?.
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« Reply #84 on: December 04, 2007, 02:55:56 PM »

That's a strange question. First how can you "fail to overstand Rasta's singular approach," when "rasta" is a single and narrow path? Second I'm not sure that "we" "Rasta's" ever separate from what His Majesty teaches as you imply. Lastly your question dealt with "relevance". And thats the strange part. Relevant to the world? Because certainly some faiths are less relevant than others in terms of global recognition. Relevance to JAH? Relevance to what? JAH teaches that knowledge of Christ is highest. There are many "G-ds", But only one G-d is the most High and I and I know that the supreme is Rastafari alone, Should I and I be ignorant of this? Should I and I not share this knowledge where appropriate?  Should I and I let one who worships dirt come to a Rasta Issembly and teach people that Rasta worships dirt? Or that dirt and not His majesty is the Most High? No, We call them pagans and heathens cause that's what they are, Is there a problem with being a pagan or a heathen? That's not for people to judge.  According to our faith, its called fallen, damned, and ignorant, but of course that's for G-d to judge. We just stand with our g-d, and dem just fall wit theirs. Feel no way.
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« Reply #85 on: December 04, 2007, 07:25:37 PM »

HOLY EMMANNUEL I KING SELASSIE JAH RASTAFARI
Blessed and Ivine Love Brotha Elijah I ,good to see the back InI HAVE MISSED THE I's presence,
Give thanks & Ises to the MOST HIGH JAH RASTAFARI
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« Reply #86 on: December 04, 2007, 09:18:11 PM »

yes blessing to the I..
peace.
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« Reply #87 on: December 05, 2007, 12:24:36 PM »

Seen Bredren, and Many Thanks for the reasoning and Guidance.
Elijah, I overstand the words I choose are very crucial, so I must attempt to clarify what I was trying to say.
I never want to imply that rastas do not follow His Majesty's teachings.  it is just that in matters of spiritual vision, we do not all see the same things.  The fundamental is something which may be gained by a process of openess, so to be singular is to be closed.  This is not to say that the narrow path is not the Way for one doing the works of Jah.  To follow this Divine Light is the Christ within each, which is singular challenge to be worked on ones entire Life.

Fiyah, I think that the way the I has put that information stated is clear .  I see what the I is saying and it universal, so it is More readily absorbed into what I am asking.  Many Thanks for the Vision.

For now I must read on and get back soon.
Blessings and Light,
Rastafari .
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« Reply #88 on: December 05, 2007, 02:51:24 PM »

Thanks for the Clarification,
The I say that "in matter of spiritual vision we do not all see the same thing". Perhaps someone who is "on their way to becoming rasta" doesnt yet sight the "Rasta Iritual Vision" and that really applies to Nicks because its such a young congregation, But can it be said that Rasta's dont sight the same spiritual vision? I think that We do and that is precisely Our strength, And I think that the idea that We don't is one that's been spread within the Immunity by outsider detractors, as well as some amount of stubborn infighting. That ALL rasta dont sight the same "spritual vision" is most likely a confusion started by people misrepresenting the Twelve Tribes Of Israel. Yes the foundation in some sense is found in openness, but it is only as we must be open to discover what is true, yet at the point we find it, it is most wise to discard, or close all else, as a matter of simplicity, though never fogetting how whole the narrow path remains. Which is why I teach the way I do, Because it is I believe something with which all Rasta will eventually reckon.  If I am "open" to "homosexuality" will I find Jah Rastafari there?(Sorry to be so crude, but serious times...) Beyond the Fundament the only issue is orthodoxy. To what degree does one stand on specifics is speech and livity. Yet there is an element of othrodoxy which is inseperable from the foundation itself.
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« Reply #89 on: December 05, 2007, 06:57:30 PM »

Well put Bredren, Many Thanks for the Light.
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