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« on: November 20, 2007, 09:50:15 PM » |
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Greetings, I was just wondering if any of you have had any expireince with this plant, I have read alot about it and just wondered if any of you could share your experiences, Thanks  Blessings One love
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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2007, 05:29:20 AM » |
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sorry bro I haven't.. but I too would be interested in hearing what the Idren have to say about it.. blessings. ke.
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2007, 03:34:17 PM » |
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Bless, more information about it please if yah have any bredren.
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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2007, 10:16:22 PM » |
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greetings, I got some info from a website. Salvia divinorum is a plant from the mint family and a species of sage that is used for its psychoactive effects. Salvia is endemic only to the Mazatec region of the Sierra Madre mountains in Oaxaca, Mexico, also known as the Sierra Mazateca. Given the right dose, individual, set and setting, it produces a unique state of "divine inebriation" which has been traditionally used by Mazatec healers and prophets. This inebriation is quite different from that of alcohol. Salvia is both similar to, yet different from, other drugs that affect the brain and behavior. In many ways, Salvia divinorum is a uniquely "magical" herb. Salvia, along with it's active princliple salvinorin-A, is very difficult to categorize pharmacologically as it does not fit well into any existing pharmacological class. Salvia is NOT a recreational drug in the way that other drugs like alcohol and marijuana are used. It is definitely NOT a party drug. But can be the best inner party. Salvia is best used by those wishing to explore deep meditative states, spiritual realms, mysticism, the nature of consciousness and reality, or even the possibilities of shamanistic healing heres the website http://www.salvia-divinorum.com/Salvia-divinorum-FAQ.htmlblessings one love!
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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2007, 10:25:13 PM » |
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but marijuana does that same thing.. bless up ke.
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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2007, 10:37:41 PM » |
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Greets,
@ke,
not true brother, salvia is stronger, alot stronger. although it does not last as long.
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one love Posted on: 2007-11-25, 21:35:34 her is a scale of how to rate a "trip"
There is a scale that describes six different levels of intoxication, each one more intense than the previous. The overall intensity of Salvia experience is scored according to the highest scale level attained during the course of the experience.
S-A-L-V-I-A Experience Rating Scale
Level 1 - "S" stands for SUBTLE effects: A feeling that 'something' is happening, although it is difficulty to say just what. Relaxation and increased sensual appreciation may be noted. This mild level is useful for meditation and may facilitate sexual pleasure.
Level 2 - "A" stands for ALTERED perception: Colors and textures are paid attention to. Appreciation of music may be enhanced. Space may appear of greater or lesser depth than is usual. But visions do not occur at this level. Thinking becomes less logical, and more playful; short term memory difficulties are may be noted.
Level 3 - "L" stands for LIGHT visionary state: Closed eye visuals (clear imagery with eyes closed: fractal patterns, vinelike and geometric patterns, visions of objects and designs). The imagery is often two dimensional. This level envokes phenomena similar to the hypnagogic phenomena that many people experience with the onset of sleep. If open eyed visual effects occur, these are usually vague and fleeting. At this level visions are experienced as "eye candy" but are not confused with reality.
Level 4 - "V" stands for VIVID visionary state: Complex three dimensional realistic appearing scenes occur. Sometimes voices may be heard. With eyes open contact with consensual reality will not be entirely lost, but when you close your eyes you may forget about consensus reality and enter completely into a dreamlike scene. Shamanistic journeying to other lands, foreign or imaginary; encounters with beings, entities, spirits; or travels to other ages may occur. You may even live the life of another person. At this level you have entered the shaman's world. Or if you prefer you are in "dream time." With eyes closed you experience fantasies (dream like happenings, with a story line to them). So long as your eyes are closed you may believe they are really occurring. This differs from the "eye candy" closed eye imagery of level 3.
Level 5 - "I" stands for IMMATERIAL existence: At this level consciousness remains and some though processes are still lucid, but one becomes completely involved in inner experience and looses all contact with consensual reality. Individuality may be lost; one experiences merging with God/Goddess, mind, universal consciousness, or bizarre fusions with other objects real or imagined, e.g. merging with a wall may be experienced. At this level it is impossible to function in consensual reality, but unfortunately some people do not remain still but move around in this befuddled state. For this reason a sitter is essential to ensure the safety of someone voyaging to the inner levels. To the person experiencing this, the phenomenon may be terrifying or exceedingly pleasant; but to an outside observer the individual may appear confused or disoriented.
Level 6 - "A" stands for AMNESIC effects: At this stage either consciousness is lost; or at least one is unable to later recall what one is experiencing. The individual may fall, or remain immobile or thrash around; somnambulistic behavior may occur; injuries can be sustained without pain being felt; on awakening the individual will have no recollection of what he/she did, experienced or said in level 6. People cannot ever recall what they experience in this very deep trance state. This is not a sought after level as later nothing can be recalled of the experience.
hope this helps, still havn't heard drom anyone who has used this herb
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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2007, 09:27:04 AM » |
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but marijuana does that same thing.. bless up ke.
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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2007, 10:22:11 PM » |
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Ok bredren and sistren, I have 2 salvia divinorum plants growing right here in my room. I can tell you, they are NOTHING like the herb.
completely different feeling altogether. Different sort of consciousness.. can still be a very religious experience, but it is not the same.. more...psychedelic? im not sure how to describe. I have not had a strong experience on it. I just think it is a beautiful plant and we can definitely learn from it. It is sort of tough to grow in some areas because it requires HIGH humidity, but once thats figured out its very simple. If anyone here is interested in obtaining a cutting (because s. divinorum RARELY produces seeds..) check out salviasource.org, really great community who will help ya get it going...
Jah has blessed us with many wonderful herbs.
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