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« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2007, 04:09:37 PM »

To dbt86 read "The Secret Doctrine" by Helena Blavatsky.
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« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2007, 08:13:57 AM »

Who says dino's didn't live at the same time as humans? What about those cave-paintings of dinosaurs? There must have been humans that saw the dino's?!
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« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2007, 09:33:14 PM »

Was there paintings of dinos ? I only saw paintings of animals, maybe they looked like dinos at that time but i dont think they were actually dinosaurs... Bless.
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« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2007, 07:08:57 PM »

In the Secret Doctrine (SD) Vol II p 218-9 she says:

"These animals, 'weird and terrible,' were, to give a few instances ... (3) the Dinosaurians ( in the Jurassic beds of the Rocky Mountains), of still more gigantic proportions ... All these were co-existent with man, most probably attacked man, as man attacked them; and we are asked to believe that the said man was no larger then than he is now!"

This is a relatively obscure point in the SD but it certainly does conflict with what we are told by traditional science. Traditional science says that the dinosaurs became extinct between 64 and 65 million years ago. It further adds that "homo erectus" came into existence something like 2 million years ago. This means that man and the dinosaurs missed each other by more than 60 million years! Blavatsky's assertion that dinosaurs and man were co-existent is in vast contradiction to traditional science on this point.

The obvious question: Has any evidence been found that could possibly support Blavatsky's view? The Christian oriented site http://www.apologeticspress.org/defdocs/2004/dd-04-01.htm discusses the question why we do not find dinosaur bones and human bones together. You might find that interesting. It also asserts "Furthermore, various ancient paintings, figurines, rock carvings, and historical references confirm they were contemporaries upon the Earth."

I wanted to bring forward here a book I have read recently. It is "Darwin's Mistake." The subtitle is "Antediluvian discoveries prove: dinosaurs and humans co-existed." More information on it can be found in the store at Seekerbooks.com.">www.seekerbooks.com. My suggestion is that you at least visit the link provided and have a look at the book cover. It shows a picture of a human footprint where the human has stepped into the footprint of a dinosaur. They coexisted!

You will recognize the human footprint. But you may not be current on your recognition of dinosaur tracks. If you look closely at the image you will see that the much larger footprint of the dinosaur is "walking" in the same direction and you can see its three large toes. One on the left another on the right and one in the middle.

This is not simply a single footprint. The dinosaur tracks extend at length through numerous steps. The human footprints extend in a normal walking gait - left, right, left, at appropriate distances.

Yes these have been given some examination by scientists. When one stone example of the human footprints was cut and examined, it was found that the material just under the foot was compressed and more dense than the other fossil material. This showed it was not a fake. In one case a specimen was discarded for a reason that did cause me to laugh out loud. The reason - the footprint was too perfect!

An examination of the human prints and gait does indicate a slightly larger than normal sized human. This tends to support the reference to size made by Blavatsky in the original quote. However these prints were made relatively more recently so we should not expect too much variation from current human size.

Yes, this would throw science on its head. Here is the problem - in order to make sense of its data, science has to be corrected in many ways simultaneously. Over time I will address more of these and attempt to put together a coherent whole as indicated in the SD.



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Posted on: December 20, 2007, 01:28:26 pm
Blavatsky writes:

But men, during the first and the second races, were not physical beings, but merely rudiments of the future men: The first race of men were, then, simply the images, the astral doubles, of their Fathers, who were the pioneers, or the most progressed Entities from a preceding though lower sphere, the shell of which is now our Moon.

(a) The old (primitive) Race merged in the second race, and became one with it.
(b) This is the mysterious process of transformation and evolution of mankind. The material of the first forms -- shadowy, ethereal, and negative -- was drawn or absorbed into, and thus became the complement of the forms of the Second Race. The Commentary explains this by saying that, as the First Race was simply composed of the astral shadows of the creative progenitors, having of course neither astral nor physical bodies of their own -- this Race never died. Its "men" melted gradually away, becoming absorbed in the bodies of their own "sweat-born" progeny, more solid than their own. The old form vanished and was absorbed by, disappeared in, the new form, more human and physical.

What will be most contested by scientific authorities is this a-sexual Race, the Second, the fathers of the "Sweat-born" so-called, and perhaps still more the Third Race, the "Egg-born" androgynes. These two modes of procreation are the most difficult to comprehend, especially for the Western mind.

Thus, as we shall find, for the first three and a half Root-Races, up to the middle or turning point, it is the astral shadows of the "progenitors," the lunar Pitris, which are the formative powers in the Races, and which build and gradually force the evolution of the physical form towards perfection -- this, at the cost of a proportionate loss of spirituality. Then, from the turning point, it is the Higher Ego, or incarnating principle, the nous or Mind, which reigns over the animal Ego, and rules it whenever it is not carried down by the latter. In short, Spirituality is on its ascending arc, and the animal or physical impedes it from steadily progressing on the path of its evolution only when the selfishness of the personality has so strongly infected the real inner man with its lethal virus, that the upward attraction has lost all its power on the thinking reasonable man. In sober truth, vice and wickedness are an abnormal, unnatural manifestation, at this period of our human evolution -- at least they ought to be so.
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