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« on: December 02, 2007, 10:27:15 PM »

Right people! Lately my views have been changing rapidly and these views include the Messiah. I used to think Jesus was the Messiah and Selassie showed us how to live his message, but i was reading about the Messiah and it says in the Torah when the Messiah comes he will start the Messianic age which is:

The Sanhedrin will be re-established (Isaiah 1:26)
Once he is King, leaders of other nations will look to him for guidance. (Isaiah 2:4)
The whole world will worship the One God of Israel (Isaiah 2:17)
He will be descended from King David (Isaiah 11:1) via Solomon (1 Chron. 22:8-10)
The Moshiach will be a man of this world, an observant Jew with "fear of God" (Isaiah 11:2)
Evil and tyranny will not be able to stand before his leadership (Isaiah 11:4)
Knowledge of God will fill the world (Isaiah 11:9)
He will include and attract people from all cultures and nations (Isaiah 11:10)
All Israelites will be returned to their homeland (Isaiah 11:12)
Death will be swallowed up forever (Isaiah 25:Cool
There will be no more hunger or illness, and death will cease (Isaiah 25:Cool
All of the dead will rise again (Isaiah 26:19)
The Jewish people will experience eternal joy and gladness (Isaiah 51:11)
He will be a messenger of peace (Isaiah 52:7)
Nations will end up recognizing the wrongs they did to Israel (Isaiah 52:13-53:5)
The peoples of the world will turn to the Jews for spiritual guidance (Zechariah 8:23)
The ruined cities of Israel will be restored (Ezekiel 16:55)
Weapons of war will be destroyed (Ezekiel 39:9)
The Temple will be rebuilt (Ezekiel 40) resuming many of the suspended mitzvot
He will then perfect the entire world to serve God together (Zephaniah 3:9)
Jews will know the Torah without study (Jeremiah 31:33)
He will give you all the worthy desires of your heart (Psalms 37:4)
He will take the barren land and make it abundant and fruitful (Isaiah 51:3, Amos 9:13-15, Ezekiel 36:29-30, Isaiah 11:6-9)

As we can see barely any of this has happened in history so we know the Messianic age hasn't happened. I see Jesus and Selassie as Divine messengers from Jah to show us Gentiles how to live and prepare us for the coming of the Messiah! Id like to hear your views on my view and your own!
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2007, 10:33:42 PM »

Ites brother! InI personal belief is that Jesus was messiah but he did not have time to make all this... He was crucified before he had time to finish his message, so people did not understand... Messiah will return again but with another name, complete the message and make the world see... And then the world will change and we will be saved. So the messiah, Jesus, will show again, i think that for sure.

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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2007, 11:36:51 PM »

Greetings In the Name Of the Most High Jah RasTafari
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InI ilief is that some of what UKJay posted has clearly come to pass
[1] once  He is King.......After the invasion of Ethiopia and H.I.M came to Bath England He approached the League of Nations for aid and assistance where they laughed and jeered at Him, He remained Dignified and rasponded by saying "It is on us today and it will be on you tomorrow" [wording not 100%] His prophecy came true shortly after and the same set of countries that denied aid then looked to H.I.M for guidance and support.
[2] He will be decended from David...........He is the Root of David
[3] Evil and tyranny will not.......... While the war was going on in Ethiopia H.I.M witnessed one of His top generals about to take the life of one of the enemy H.I.M Ordered His general to stop and to take the enemy wash him feed him groom him and send him home......
[4]  He will include and attract........RasTafari and H.I,M are known in the 4 corners of the earth, Almost ivery nation/colour/country KNOW RASTA. Rasta a world wide
[5]He will be the messenger of peace ........H.I.M  Title  and teachings and Livity spread the WORD OF PEACE THROUGH HIM.
InI wish I had a little more time to itinue... We also have to overstand that the prophecies are revealing them selves to the world seen, And it will be after The Last Battle ,that we see complete restoration ,peace, destruction of weapons of war, and perfection of  the world and the peoples WILL serve God Together.
Luke 21:9 "But when you hear of wars and commotions do not be terrified for these things must come to pass"
When Yesus Christus was praying in the Garden of Gethsemane he spoke to the Fther and said "Father if it is your will remove this cup from Me nevertheless not My will, but Yours be done" [Luke 22:42] so InI ilief is not that Yesus never had enough time He knew the purpose of His Being, He overstood He was sent for our salvation and was to be crucified for our sakes under Pontius Pilate, as it was already written in the scriptures. Jah has atime and a season for Ivery thing, Thats why We must ready our selves as Zion awaits.
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2007, 10:09:24 PM »

Yeah but what i cant is why would God stop the Messiah from completing his goal what gain is there in that. I believe God has everything planned out, so why would he let the Messiah die before he could complete his mission. What gain is in that in the long run except the starvation and hunger the Messiah will abolish!
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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2007, 11:35:51 PM »

Blessed and Ivine Love InI Ilief is that Jah sent Yesus Christus to the earth to fullfill the prophecies.
HEBREWS 9v14   How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the iternal spirit offered Himself with out spot to God. Purge your conscience from  dead works to serve the living God?
15  And for this reason He is the Mediator of the New Covenant by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may recieve the promise of the iternal inheritance.
16   For where there is a testament there must also, of necessity be the death of the testator.
17   For testament is a force after men are dead. Since it has no power at all while the testator lives.
18   Therefore not even the First Covenant was dedicated without blood.


23   Therefore it was necessary that the copies of the things in the heavens should be purified with these, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrafices than these   [Hebrews v19-22]


28   So Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many to those who eagerly wait for Him, He will reappear a second time apart from sin for salvation,

It was a prophecy fullfilled He completed His Mission on Earth ,And the Gain is SALVATION  AND ITERNAL LIFE.
Give thanks InI pray that this brings some clarity to the I and  aids Overstanding
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2007, 03:15:21 AM »

InI love this post.

very much like InI!
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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2007, 03:49:52 PM »

Iman agree with UKJAY I.

We have to read the root, the Torah, to overstand the fruits,  Ileif and faith.


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