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« on: December 08, 2007, 04:24:27 PM »

do rastas believ that mary was 'impregnated' by the holy spirit? if so how is this possible?
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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2007, 07:54:02 PM »

By making a woman pregnant, for us humans, its natural to make love, yes? But why should it be for Jah allmighty? As he is allmighty, he wouldnt need to make love to a woman just to make her pregnant. Mary was a virgin right? Thats how we know Jesus had no human father... Mary didnt make love to anyone, but she still got pregnant, yes? Is there any other explanation? I dont think so... Not from what i know atleast! Smiley

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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2007, 09:14:37 PM »

Greetings in The Name Of the Most High Jah RasTafari
Peace and Love InI did have this sed reasoning with I 12 year old daughter and the only way InI could give her any sort of overstanding was to use the coconut, How does the coconut milk get inside the coconut. Nuh body physically puts the milk in but it is there all the same, Nothing is Impossible fi Jah,
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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2007, 09:36:22 PM »

A true thing! Beautiful way of explanining it! Blessings
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2007, 01:04:01 AM »

yes couldn't have said it better my self sis.
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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2007, 02:23:53 PM »

ok the coconut thing makes sense bt i still dnt undastand. did jesus just appear in mary's womb?
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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2007, 06:46:41 PM »

In the Ible it says that Jesus was the son of god..
God is the Almighty so god doesn't have to have sex to create a child..
he put Jesus in mary..
so you could say god put him there he didn't just appear there..seen?
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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2007, 07:11:14 PM »

ok. i get it nw. thanx.
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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2007, 01:09:59 AM »

Blessed and Ivine Love Give thanks, may be InI explainitory skills are improving lol
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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2007, 09:03:40 PM »

bless up sista they aren't that bad..
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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2007, 11:23:46 PM »

Give Thanks Brotha  Ke , The I is too kind Lol
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« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2007, 12:39:59 AM »

no i don't believe in that... Cheesy

my explanation would be that its a lie,
i do not believe the physically laws can be broken..

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« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2007, 01:29:25 AM »

Blessed and Ivine Love
@Leon what exactly is a lie, InI dont really want to get into any heated reasoning but InI is a defender of the Faith and if the I has a problem with Rasta Iliefs then it is the I's problem, When it comes to reasoning to say "that is a lie" is heating up InI fiyah,
InI would humbely ask the I to find the skill of reasoning or ask why  this is InI ilief but dont start attacking InI Faith,  InI  humble but RIGHTEOUS and RAFUSE to mek any I slander the word of JAH
WITHOUT APOLOGY!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2007, 10:15:42 PM »

Greetings !

Consider this, said by someone else but applies here too :

"YOU ARE NOT YET A DISCIPLE and you are worried. The living Master is here! and you are not yet a disciple, and you are worried whether when I leave my body you will have to search for a living Master. Just look at the nonsense the mind goes on spinning. And if you can find one, again you will ask the same question!

Yes, it is true: you cannot follow a dead Master. So while I am alive, become a disciple. And there are two ways to find a living Master.

The easier one is when a living Master is there -- dissolve into him. Only one percent of effort is needed from your side; ninety-nine percent of the work is done by the Master. But if a living Master is not available, then it is very difficult: ninety-nine percent of the work will have to be done by you, and only one percent can be done by a Master who is no more alive.

For example, you can follow Christ, you can follow Buddha, but ninety-nine percent of the work will have to be done by you; only one percent can be done by Buddha. You will have to create such intensity, such passion; you will have to become afire. In becoming afire, in becoming a tremendous longing for truth, you will make Buddha alive again -- through your intensity. He is there! dissolved into existence, no more residing in a body. Not that he is not there: he is there, bodiless. Christ is there bodiless.

If you can create a tremendous longing, that very longing will function as a body for Christ. He will become alive for you! If you really love Christ and you are ready to die for him, he is living for you, because you will become his body. You will start functioning as HIS body. But that is a tremendous work. Very rarely has a person been able to do it: a St. Francis, a Teresa, an Eckhart. Very rarely. Down the centuries, twenty centuries after Jesus, not more than five people have been able to do that. In four centuries, one person only. It is very rare.

Many have done the same with Buddha. Twenty-five centuries have passed, but those many can be counted on the fingers -- they are not really many, few and far between.

If your intensity is such that you can say, "It is total. My love has no doubt, no lingering shadow, it is shadowless," then a dead Master becomes ALIVE in you, and you can follow him. Then your innermost core becomes his vehicle.

The easier way is to find a living Master who is still in the body. You need not become his body. You can contact him easily because he is visible. Now about Jesus... you cannot even trust whether this man ever happened, whether he was really historical. There is no proof, there is no certainty, that he was a historical person. How will you drop your doubt?

And what Christians say makes his existence even more doubtful; they don't help.

They say he was born out of a virgin -- now see the stupidity of it. It makes things more difficult! To conceive the idea you will need such an idiotic mind -- because it is simply nonsense. Children are not born out of virgins. Now this makes his existence more doubtful, seems to be a myth, seems to be a story, a legend. And in fact there are a few scholars who say that it was just a drama that was played -- a Christ drama -- it was never a reality; just a story, a play written by some unknown Shakespeare of olden days.

Christians say that after the crucifixion, after three days as a dead body he was resurrected again. Now they make things even more difficult. And all the stories of miracles... and Christ disappears as a historical person.

Buddha seems to be more historical -- more historical than Christ. Of course, he is five hundred years before Christ, but still he seems to be more historical. No virgin birth, no resurrection after death. But Buddhists make their story implausible in their own way. They say he was born when his mother was standing, and the first thing he did was that he declared, standing... after birth the first thing he did: he walked seven steps and then he declared, "There is nobody higher than me -- not on the earth, not in the heavens!"

Now the newly born child walking seven steps and declaring, "Nobody is higher than me, here or anywhere else.

..." To declare such nonsense, one needs seventy years of experience -- seven steps won't do!
It is said about Lao Tzu that he lived in his mother's womb for eighty-two yearS. Now, just think of the mother also, poor mother. Nine months is too much -- eighty-two years! He was born with white hair, an old man.

Now, these people make things impossible -- how can you believe these stories? You cannot believe them. And because of these stories, if you come across a living Buddha you will not believe in him either -- because you will ask these foolish questions: "Were you born out of a virgin mother?" And the living Buddha cannot say yes because that will be untrue. "And did you walk seven steps immediately after birth? Did you declare? Did you live in your mother's womb for eighty-two years?"
And, of course, all the answers are going to be no, no, no. Then the question arises, "Then what kind of a Buddha are you?"


These stories will not allow you to believe in the ancient Buddhas, and these stories will not allow you to believe in the living Buddha either. These stories have been a great poison, a great calamity. It will be difficult for you to connect with a dead Master -- dead only in the sense that he has no body any more. Otherwise he is there! Nothing is ever lost. The fragrance is there: the flower is gone. And if you cannot smell the fragrance while the flower is there, it will be thousands of times more difficult to smell the fragrance when the flower is gone."

See how it suites InI's query today...
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« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2007, 10:16:41 AM »

Thoughts on the above topic, quoted from a fav book of I'n "The Only Planet of Choice, essential Briefings from Deep Space" this Tom character says he is the spokesperson for the "Council of Nine" that are referred to in Scripture as Aeons, spoken thru a prophet Phyllis V. Schlemmer.....
Question; Harriet: We were wondering about the Immaculate Conception, and whether you would tell us about that, and also if the Nazerene had offspring?
Tom: The earth mother of the Nazerene was implanted by the Hoova, in what you term....you do it in your planet without physicalness.
John: yes, artificial insemination.
Tom: Yes Jesus was the firstborn. He is Hoova, that of the nation of Israel calls Yehovah. after his birth, then Mary and Joseph had seven other male and three female. The Nazarene's physical brother and siblings were not implanted.You asked if the Nazarene experienced the physical glory?
Guest: We were talking about the genetic influence of the Hoovids, and we identified the first two genetic of the Hoovids, and we wondered whether the Nazarene represented the third?
Tom: He was like that but that does not mean he offspringed children.
David: So he had no children?
Tom: You make your world so complicated. He was a representative of Hoova. In the genetic stream of Hoova, there existed beings of Hoova on Earth. What the Nazarene did was awaken the coding of memory within."
I could go on , but want to feed my crew...If folks are interested I will go on, its really food for thought.....
May Blessings abound for all you beautiful beings....
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