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[I ELIJAH I]

People going to Ilieve what them what to Ilieve. But I'm going to give Rasta word on this for perspective.
Rastafari say "All versions of the Bible is one and the same" and "I and I accept the message of the Bible".  So if the message that you get when the Bible says that Greeks or Gentiles become the body of Israel through baptism means scattered Jews (who are Jewish by flesh regardless of location or livity btw). That's your faith. I'd as soon say g-d meant the devil. The message that I overstand is that all nations are Inited in Haile Selassie. And that is the kingdom. And the promise. First fruit is still first fruit of course. I and I are not waiting for something to fulfill. Rastafari see all birds I. Give Thanks.

[Imanvex]

you tan deh wid yuh sillassi and yuh FALSE DOCTRINE
YUH WILL SOON FIND OUT.

[I ELIJAH I]

People going to Ilieve what them want to Ilieve. I and I are not waiting for something to fulfill.

[EmpressCarla]

Blessings

26But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs. (THE MESSIAH SAID ITS NOT GOOD TO TAKE THE ISRAELITES BLESSINGS ETC AND THROW IT TO DOGZZZZZ, the other nations)  27And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table ( SO SHE'S ADMITING SHE IS A DOG). 

This is why it is foolish for people to believe that the Bible is the only infallible word of God. For if Jesus is Love, if Jesus is the so-called savior of the world/kosmos/universe...whichever you choose, then why would He be so coldhearted? To prove a point, you say? Then the point it proves for me is that it is man who create the image of God in their likeness, and not the other way around. These selfish, separatist ideologies are man-made and God has nothing to do with it!

So Elijah, when you start talking about burning the Rastafari Movement, know that you sound just as racist and prejudiced as this so-called Israelite. Both fighting against one another to have some sense of self-importance, both ignorant of your real enemy.

I want no part of the god y'all folks serve!

One Love Still

[NyaInIJahLove]

I am not too humble to admit I am one of those "Dogs"
dogs are faithful, unconditionally loving and loyal to a default
remember
"Dog Star" to, one I feel sure we will learn more of
If ones had tasted even the mere crumbs of the Glory and righteousness  that that one spoke of,
then they would be happy with the crumbs too.....
each to his or her own tho
free will is a given by "that God"
just be sure yah can handle the consequences of denial of "that One" tho,
HIM sure didn't seem to
and we all love HIM don't we?
Bless and Love
Nyah I

[Joey Reborn]

For if Jesus is Love, if Jesus is the so-called savior of the world/kosmos/universe...whichever you choose, then why would He be so coldhearted? To prove a point, you say?

I would argue that Jesus wasn't perfect (as most Christians claim) at least until he grew up and had the capacity to become one with God (not saying that necessarily happened, but I do not believe he was born perfect). However, we must remember that the connotations of words change, and though today (or not even today, fifty years ago!) calling someone a 'dog' was greatly offensive, but in Jesus' day it was a term commonly applied to the Gentiles and though it reflected an obviously negative attitude towards them, one might argue that Jesus' words mirror the language of the Jews that surround him (he was a Jew also of course) and so it was the best way to illustrate a point. Remember that the Gentile woman does not dispute that Jesus is not here for her, but still makes the experience her own, which Christian Gentiles take great comfort in today.

I want no part of the god y'all folks serve!

Me neither. To bring in theology (where I have previously tried to stick to the books of the people I'm debating with), I believe the worship of a god based solely on an infallible reading of the Old Testament is a god I take no part in worshiping because He is a god who is only concerned with one group of people, and if you are not a Jew, you better hope no-one you were ever related to did anything bad to a Jew, because if they did you will get punished. The Bible is not infallible, it does have historical and theological inventions within it (though some of these might be seen as parables), but even if it is, it seems to me that people who follow it exclusively are those that least understand one of its key messages: 'love your neighbour as yourself'. I try to love God and all peoples and if God still doesn't consider me his child then he was made me his enemy, and to quote Dosteovsky, he is 'no longer worthy of worship.'

Joey

[I ELIJAH I]

So Elijah, when you start talking about burning the Rastafari Movement, know that you sound just as racist and prejudiced as this so-called Israelite.

I know that it may sound that way to you, and was in part my intention. To reveal the extent to which you have identified your self with "A Movement".

I want no part of the god y'all folks serve!

Me neither.

Then to the degree that these quotes apply to me you will serve no g-d at all. Thank the "Rastafari movement" that the preachers daughter has turned pagan.

[natty threads]

Jesus is the Living Word of God.

When God speaks what comes out of His mouth is Jesus.
That's what words do.

Jesus is The Word of God. (John 1:1).

Jesus is also the Amen- as, Negus?- was that you that pointed that out in your apt quote from Revelation?-

The Amen is the Foundation of Creation.
God SPOKE the world into existence. God said "Let there be light" and there was light.
That was Jesus coming out of God's mouth that made the light.

SOUND moving across WATER can make LIGHT.

When the Word of God (Jesus) moved across the water it became Light.

This is the Foundation of Creation, Jesus coming out of God's mouth.

JESUS is THE WORD OF GOD.

GOD'S WORD IS LAW.

Jesus is God's Law.

The Torah is The Law.
Jesus is the Torah.

He did not come to change the Law but to fulfill the Law.

SO

"God so loved the world that He gave THE WORLD the Torah so that whosoever believeth in HIM (Jesus, Light, The Torah) shall not perish but have ever-lasting life."

Jesus is not "love." Love is not a thing. Love is a verb.

Love is ACTION.
It is what people DO.

Jesus said to Love one another as He has loved us.

We should love one another according to the word of God.

God never excluded anyone, as an individual, who followed His Laws.
God responds to our love.

Look at the example of Ruth.
She was a "convert."

If His Law is just for the Jews then Selassie is nothing.
He traces to David through a non-Jewish woman.

God CREATED Adam and Eve, but He did NOT speak them into Creation. Adam was formed from the clay and God BREATHED life into him.
Jesus was there at the Creation because He IS the Creation that was spoken.

He knew Adam, but he didn't MAKE Adam.
Adam was not spoken into existence; Adam was formed.

I am with Nyah.
I am happy with the crumbs.

NONE are worthy.
We ALL fall short of the Glory of God.

Bless up.
Posted on: April 12, 2008, 08:31:38 pmIf you don't believe in the God of the Old Testament then Selassie is just a very good man.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to glorify his lineage as the true root of David or of The Lion of Judah if you don't believe in Judah.

IF you can be a Rasta and NOT believe anything is special about Selassie and that the Bible is not literally true, go for it.

I have not seen that this is possible.

Central to Rasta is GOD- The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Without them and that belief, there is nothing special about David- He was just another successful tyrant. If there is nothing special about David then the Queen of Sheba bore a child from naught but a powerful necromancer (Solomon) and Selassie has no divine lineage.

It is simple logical linear.

If the Bible is not true, then Selassie is naught but a dead emporer.

Bless up.

[I ELIJAH I]

If His Law is just for the Jews then Selassie is nothing.
He traces to David through a non-Jewish woman.

I suppose your talking about Makeda, But Iriginal order sight patrilineal desencion. But this one doesn't sight up Selassie anyway like most of these so called "rasta's", He just clot the board because like them say, "Rasta is a black thing".

[natty threads]

Then belittle the Greatness of Yah by misstating that He is just a "Jew Thing."

Bless up.

[I ELIJAH I]

Israel da chosen. Thats not changing. 

[natty threads]

Israel da chosen. Thats not changing. 

Of course.

Yah go back on His Word?

MAY IT NEVER BE!

Bless up.

If Israel is not chosen then God is a liar.
Seen?

A lot of Christians miss that.

Bless up.

[EmpressCarla]

Blessings

For if Jesus is Love, if Jesus is the so-called savior of the world/kosmos/universe...whichever you choose, then why would He be so coldhearted? To prove a point, you say?

I would argue that Jesus wasn't perfect (as most Christians claim) at least until he grew up and had the capacity to become one with God (not saying that necessarily happened, but I do not believe he was born perfect). However, we must remember that the connotations of words change, and though today (or not even today, fifty years ago!) calling someone a 'dog' was greatly offensive, but in Jesus' day it was a term commonly applied to the Gentiles and though it reflected an obviously negative attitude towards them, one might argue that Jesus' words mirror the language of the Jews that surround him (he was a Jew also of course) and so it was the best way to illustrate a point. Remember that the Gentile woman does not dispute that Jesus is not here for her, but still makes the experience her own, which Christian Gentiles take great comfort in today.

I want no part of the god y'all folks serve!

Me neither. To bring in theology (where I have previously tried to stick to the books of the people I'm debating with), I believe the worship of a god based solely on an infallible reading of the Old Testament is a god I take no part in worshiping because He is a god who is only concerned with one group of people, and if you are not a Jew, you better hope no-one you were ever related to did anything bad to a Jew, because if they did you will get punished. The Bible is not infallible, it does have historical and theological inventions within it (though some of these might be seen as parables), but even if it is, it seems to me that people who follow it exclusively are those that least understand one of its key messages: 'love your neighbour as yourself'. I try to love God and all peoples and if God still doesn't consider me his child then he was made me his enemy, and to quote Dosteovsky, he is 'no longer worthy of worship.'

Joey

Bless up, Joey! Well said, and it seems you overstood what I was getting at.

@Elijah
You calling me a pagan, I take that as a compliment.

@Those happy with crumbs
That is your "free will" option. But since I am a daughter of the Most High God who never damned me to no crumbs, I'll pass.

One Love Still

[I ELIJAH I]

@Elijah
You calling me a pagan, I take that as a compliment.

Good. Then let me add that you've been brainwashed by a Nationalistic Racist Black cult. You must be swooning.
Posted on: April 13, 2008, 08:48:48 amSeems to me that those determined to cast others as "damned" "dogs" who deserve "crumbs", have done nothing but prove that that's who they themselves are. This is a reaction to slavery in my opinion. I suppose it makes ones feel good to see "white" people saying their "content with crumbs" or feel like a second class citizen(pun intended.) Funny when its not even the "black" peoples g-d but the Jews. LOLOLOL If ones think that g-d would leave a segment of humanity to "crumbs" because of their heritage they obviously don't know g-d.

 The g-d of Israel is NOT the same "g-d" worshiped by Egypt.

Like Ras Adam say, Falasha come out of Africa for a reason.  But ones still have so much resentment that they would forsake g-d altoghether rather than Iccept a kinship with the decendants of those who enslaved their ancestors, And miss the true wise mind and blessing in the process. Selassie Bun That. Just Rastafari "Movement" business.   

[TREE-NATTY]

Not the same? I thought we went over this already?

Hosea 13:4

[4] Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.


HRU-CHA