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« Reply #45 on: August 09, 2008, 02:16:04 PM »

 I would like someone to explain Zechariah 6:11-13.
Zec 6:11  Then take silver and gold, and make crowns, and set [them] upon the head of Joshua the son of Josedech, the high priest;


 Zec 6:12  And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name [is] The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD:


 Zec 6:13  Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.
How does Selassie I fit into this verse?

 As to the question of God dying for the chosen, what about Dan 12:1-3?
Dan 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.


 Dan 12:2  And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame [and] everlasting contempt.


 Dan 12:3  And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

 Christ died to bring the human race back from the grave, some to everlasting life, some to everlasting shame and contempt. Man is eternal. The question is where will we spend eternity, heaven or hell?
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« Reply #46 on: August 09, 2008, 10:17:49 PM »

I agree that this is exactly the question, Precepts.
Thank-you for the post.
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« Reply #47 on: August 10, 2008, 12:38:01 AM »

 Yes I!
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« Reply #48 on: August 12, 2008, 09:14:01 AM »

Blessed Reasoning...

From the several key words; there seems to be a need for better unfoldment concerning the truth of Kingdom(Kingdom of the Heaven or Soul or God thus JAH). Either there is a need of clarification upon the reality of 'sifting times'. A relationship between Jesus as the son of man, the son of God(The manifestation of divine Love or Christ). The wisdom upon the shifting of the Ages, and spiritual unfoldment of the collective mankind. The quest of the spirit, and the capacity of man to be the higher truth about the meaning of to live.

The below excermpt can shade some light upon those matter to be comprehended.

And Man Jesus taught thus,


CHAPTER 116

The Christines are in Philip's home. Jesus interprets the parable of the wheat and tares. He explains the unfoldment of the kingdom by parables: the good seed; the growth of the tree; the leaven; the hidden treasure. He goes to a mountain to pray.

THE Christines were in Philip's home and Peter said to Jesus, Lord, will you explain to us the meaning of the parables you spoke to-day? The one about the wheat and tares, especially? 2 And Jesus said, God's kingdom is a duality; it has an outer and an inner form. 3 As seen by man it is composed of men, of those who make confession of the name of Christ. 4 For various reasons various people crowd this outer kingdom of our God. 5 The inner kingdom is the kingdom of the soul, the kingdom of the pure in heart. 6 The outer kingdom I may well explain in parables. Behold, for I have seen you cast a great net out into the sea, 7 And when you hauled it in, lo, it was full of every kind of fish, some good, some bad, some great, some small; and I have seen you save the good and throw the bad away. 8 This outer kingdom is the net, and every kind of man is caught; but in the sorting day the bad will all be cast away, the good reserved. 9 Hear, then, the meaning of the parable of the wheat and tares: 10 The sower is the son of man; the field, the world; the good seed are the children of the light; the tares, the children of the dark; the enemy, the carnal self; the harvest day, the closing of the age; the reapers are the messengers of God. 11 The reckoning day will come to every man; then will the tares be gathered up, and cast into the fire and be burned. 12 Then will the good shine forth as suns in the kingdom of the soul. 13 And Philip said, Must men and women suffer in the flames because they have not found the way of life? 14 And Jesus said, The fire purifies. The chemist throws into the fire the ores that hold all kinds of dross. 15 The useless metal seems to be consumed; but not a grain of gold is lost. 16 There is no man that has not in him gold that cannot be destroyed. The evil things of men are all consumed in fire; the gold survives. 17 The inner kingdom of the soul I may explain in parables: 18 The son of man goes forth and scatters seeds of truth; God waters well the soil; the seeds show life and grow; first comes the blade, and then the stalk, and then the ear, and then the full wheat in the ear. 19 The harvest comes and, lo, the reapers bear the ripened sheaves into the garner of the Lord. 20 Again, this kingdom of the soul is like a little seed that men may plant in fertile soil. 21 (A thousand of these seeds would scarcely be a shekel's weight.) 22 The tiny seed begins to grow; it pushes through the earth, and after years of growth it is a mighty tree and birds rest in its leafy bowers and men find refuge 'neath its sheltering boughs from sun and storm. 23 Again, the truth, the spirit of the kingdom of the soul, is like a ball of leaven that a woman hid in measures, three, of flour and in a little time the whole was leavened. 24 Again, the kingdom of the soul is like a treasure hidden in a field which one has found, and straightway goes his way and sells all that he has and buys the field. 25 When Jesus had thus said he went alone into a mountain pass near by to pray.

From the Aquarian Age Gospel Of Jesus

I an I are living at the cusp of the Age of Pisces, a new dawn is at hand. Only those who capable of going a shift of perceiption are at the door to peceive the magnificent new world. The Old generation is going to fade out; a new race of people will survive, and thereof man is going to seek new heights to the purpose of living. Automatically a judgement is underway right now. Only people who know the art of reading the writting on the walls can decipher the codes and improve their discernment of what is real and what is not. Hence the sifting is happening even this time around as one pass thru these line.

JAH love, guide and protect I & I

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« Reply #49 on: August 13, 2008, 12:30:00 PM »

 What's your point, Moses?

 There's no J in the hebrew alphabet.
Elijah is really Eliyah. Eliyah meaning My God(Eli)
I Am(Yah). Elisha is My God(Eli) Salvation(Sha), and Yahsha is
I Am(Yah) Salvation(Sha) which is the meaning of Jesus and
Joshua. Jerusalem is really Yah-ru-sha-lem, I Am(Yah) with(ru)
Salvation(Sha) city(lem).
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« Reply #50 on: August 13, 2008, 10:46:39 PM »

Jesus is the Word of God (John 1:1) and as such is The Law.
He was there at Creation.

Yeshua then means that the Law of God is Salvation.

People can talk around the Bible all they want and dislike what they dislike, but the simple fact remains that God's Law is Salvation.

When Jesus said "I am the Way and the Truth and the Light" He was saying "God's Law is the Way and the Truth and the Light."

Christ died and was resurrected.

You cannot kill the Word of God.
You cannot defeat God's Law.

Bless up!
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« Reply #51 on: August 14, 2008, 03:46:24 PM »

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Jesus is the Word of God (John 1:1) and as such is The Law.
He was there at Creation.

Yeshua then means that the Law of God is Salvation.

People can talk around the Bible all they want and dislike what they dislike, but the simple fact remains that God's Law is Salvation.

When Jesus said "I am the Way and the Truth and the Light" He was saying "God's Law is the Way and the Truth and the Light."

Christ died and was resurrected.

You cannot kill the Word of God.
You cannot defeat God's Law.

Bless up!
Are you accusing me of such?
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« Reply #52 on: August 15, 2008, 12:22:02 PM »

What's your point, Moses?

 There's no J in the hebrew alphabet.
Elijah is really Eliyah. Eliyah meaning My God(Eli)
I Am(Yah). Elisha is My God(Eli) Salvation(Sha), and Yahsha is
I Am(Yah) Salvation(Sha) which is the meaning of Jesus and
Joshua. Jerusalem is really Yah-ru-sha-lem, I Am(Yah) with(ru)
Salvation(Sha) city(lem).

Blessed Love Precept,

Tho InI tend to take delight in account of language and terms. A shift of perceiption is needless of any language. Its more like of music rather than actual words. Thas why wise men refer sophistry with mental prostitution. To I, words are tools for creativity and expression. But they dont mean everything; or anything all the time. Give thanks for enlightening the I about Hebrew tongue; appreci-love that.

The ultimate reality has no name to be precise. But any man can choose his word to coin the perspective. JAH is I choice, and as much the I had indicated it (Yah); a point toward the 'I am' perspective, then that suites well with what bedrin and sistren who around here term the Most I, then its okay if the I can choose YAH or JAH. But certainly, for I, JAH sounds sweet as ever. Neverless, InI dont mean to reflect on ordinary usage of coined terms or names. As any account into unusal apllication of a word or term prompt for relearning a new formalisation. So I as a man, perceive we come together to learn and integrate... Not necessary to get entangled from 'ordinariness' of context.

Speaking of language patterns: I man overstand the fact that many of Persian City name have a certain contextual meaning. For example: Where I man live is the city which was named after some Persian Sailors who were here in the past; and the called it: Dar es Salaam. Now this name by its nature its not purely lingusticly Bantu in originality. And Bantu is the mother toungue of many of African Languages. And we speak Swahili which is by now a language with many doping of words from Arabic language and Some other Asian Language.  Now if can relate the name Dar es Salaam with Yerusalemu. There is a closer meaning to their root name. Salaam is close to now a swahili word Salama which means to be safe. Salem is close to arabic for Peace. Just like in Arabic greeting whic says Assalam alaykum (meaning Peace Be upon You). And it has the something like close root-word resemblence to Shalom which as well as the fact that is a typical greeting in Hebrew, somehow indicating the same meaning of Peace or Safety. Now, Dar es Salaam denotes something like 'The Haven of Peace'. And there are other cities with the same name Dar es Salaam somewhere around the globe.

Therefore Salem is close to a meaning of: a place of protection, of being safe. And many capitals of the past did bear that name to indicate that a place where peace and Harmony is somehow ensured. And I man consider the same for Yerusalem. But words are simply words. Is curent Yerusalem a city of peace; has it known peace all the times? This is a question to ponder and realise words and their lacking.


JAH love
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« Reply #53 on: August 17, 2008, 07:28:10 PM »

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Blessed Love Precept,

Tho InI tend to take delight in account of language and terms. A shift of perceiption is needless of any language. Its more like of music rather than actual words. Thas why wise men refer sophistry with mental prostitution. To I, words are tools for creativity and expression. But they dont mean everything; or anything all the time. Give thanks for enlightening the I about Hebrew tongue; appreci-love that.

The ultimate reality has no name to be precise. But any man can choose his word to coin the perspective. JAH is I choice, and as much the I had indicated it (Yah); a point toward the 'I am' perspective, then that suites well with what bedrin and sistren who around here term the Most I, then its okay if the I can choose YAH or JAH. But certainly, for I, JAH sounds sweet as ever. Neverless, InI dont mean to reflect on ordinary usage of coined terms or names. As any account into unusal apllication of a word or term prompt for relearning a new formalisation. So I as a man, perceive we come together to learn and integrate... Not necessary to get entangled from 'ordinariness' of context.
So, I guess when the bible spoke of instructions it wasn't referring to you?

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How can words be simply words when the word became flesh and dwell among us?

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« Reply #54 on: August 21, 2008, 03:13:23 PM »

Blessed love,

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How can words be simply words when the word became flesh and dwell among us?

The I's overstanding concerning the 'the word' as used in the bible might not be similar to I as a man. But if the I is interested to dig more about it then Iman suggest for the I to contemplate first what is faith. Then if the I find anything meanfully(bout what it is), then I an I can reflect on each other to relate with 'the word'.

Let us discuss it not for a while.

Watch the signs.

Bless
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« Reply #55 on: August 21, 2008, 04:35:15 PM »

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The I's overstanding concerning the 'the word' as used in the bible might not be similar to I as a man. But if the I is interested to dig more about it then Iman suggest for the I to contemplate first what is faith. Then if the I find anything meanfully(bout what it is), then I an I can reflect on each other to relate with 'the word'.

Let us discuss it not for a while.

Watch the signs.

Bless
I think you should dig deeper and look for the real mccoy, that nugget of all nuggets, yes.
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