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« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2008, 11:41:51 PM »

I and I do not know any Sun Cults as Christianity.
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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2008, 10:29:45 PM »

Jesus is called the Nazarene in Matthew 2:23; Mark 10:47; 14:67; 16:6; Luke 24:19; John 18:5; 18:7; 19:19; Acts 2:22; 3:6; 4:10; 6:14; 22:8
Jesus was not a nazirite (dreadlocks, staying away from grapes, wine, staying away from death. Actually, he did the opposite; cut his hair, drank wine and touched the dead..)

The dreadlocked jews, Sampson and King Samuel for example, were nazirites. That word derives from hebrew Nazir.
I live in a jewish society, and they never speak about "nazarenes" it is nazarites or nazirites. I don't use wikipedia as a main source, but if it just manifest what I already know, then I have no problem.

If you have any proof for your interesting point of view, I am open minded.
If you have the right definition, then why can't I find any sites or books about it?

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« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2008, 12:56:41 AM »

Thats my point Ras Adam, the nazarenes were simply nazarites, it is simply a play on the wording thats all, jesus was called by the future compilers of the new testament (more than a hundred years later) and roman priests the nazarene because they said he came from a town called Nazareth which it has been proven there never was a town that name in his supposed time, evidence that this was a later writing. No Jesus was never a nazarite as "one who took a vow unto the lord".

I would suggest reading a book by Maimonide, "Guide for the Perplexed" to get an esoteric understanding of the Torah, hard to find but well worth it. This is what he says concerning the absurdities of the Torah and bible which is why i have been telling ones here about looking deep within the Esoteric meaning and understanding of the bible, this is the only real way ones will be able to understand the real and correct meaning of the Torah and bible. I presume you are a jewish man, one love to you, my family is part jewish as well, you should no then that the Torah is faithfully copied word for word letter by letter by an apprentice rabbi and if there is the slightest mistake it is thrown out and he has to satrt over, the reason is because of the Esoteric value of the Torah must be maintained at all times or the exoteric smoke screen will not work.

"Every time that you find in our books a tale the reality of which seems impossible, a story which is repugnant to both reason and common sense, then be sure that the text contains a profound allegory veiling a deeply mysterious truth; and the greater the absurdity of the latter, the deeper the wisdom of the spirit." Maimonedes (1135-1205)

"The man," it is said in the "Sifra di Ẓeni'uta," "who is not acquainted with this book is like the savage barbarian who was a stranger to the usages of civilized life. He sowed wheat, but was accustomed to partake of it only in its natural condition. One day this barbarian came into a city, and good bread was placed before him. Finding it very palatable, he inquired of what material it was made, and was informed that it was made of wheat. Afterward one offered to him a fine cake kneaded in oil. He tasted it, and again asked: 'And this, of what is it made?' and he received the same answer, of wheat. Finally, one placed before him the royal pastry, kneaded with oil and honey. He again asked the same question, to which he obtained a like reply. Then he said: 'At my house I am in possession of all these things. I partake daily of them in root, and cultivate the wheat from which they are made.' In this crudeness he remained a stranger to the delights one draws from the wheat, and the pleasures were lost to him. It is the same with those who stop at the general principles of knowledge because they are ignorant of the delights which one may derive from the further investigation and application of these principles."  Zohar

To read the bible or Torah literally (exoteric) is to discard the real hidden truth (esoteric), otherwise the books are useless immoral and unethical gibberish, the ancient writers of the Torah would have done a much better job if they were trying to write a real historical book, this is actually what Moses Maimonedes said.


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« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2008, 01:20:07 AM »

No Jesus was never a nazarite as "one who took a vow unto the lord".

This is falsity promoted by anti-christ enemy of JAH and His people.
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« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2008, 03:48:02 AM »

What is the vow Jesus took?
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« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2008, 12:24:17 PM »

You mean "what was a vow". You'll have to ask HIM. Though I've indicated one already. The real trick is people who believe he was called the "Nazarene" because of a town.
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« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2008, 12:30:52 PM »

What is the vow Jesus took?

I know of none that he took. I personally dont believe in the story of Jesus but what i have read in the bible it mentions nothing of him taking a vow.
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« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2008, 01:33:06 PM »

You mean "what was a vow".

No, I mean what vow did he take. I can't find it mentioned specifically but looking at his works I'd say he vowed to serve the Almighty.
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« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2008, 01:40:38 PM »

Service to the Almighty comes through numerous and varying vows.
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« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2008, 01:58:16 PM »

He vowed to serve himself? Isnt Jesus supposed to be the almighty in flesh?
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« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2008, 03:35:27 PM »

No. Jesus was a man who died and resurrected in His Imperial Majesty Haile Selassie I who is JAH in Flesh.
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« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2008, 03:38:29 PM »

Ah, Interesting, Human!
But why did those Christians want people to think Jesus was a nazirite? What was "in it" for them?

I know the Maimonide Book, but I have not read it yet, soon will, it's a classic.
It is surely an interesting subject.

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« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2008, 04:48:57 PM »

But why did those Christians want people to think Jesus was a nazirite? What was "in it" for them?

G-d blesses those who speak truth.

To read the bible or Torah literally (exoteric) is to discard the real hidden truth (esoteric),

This is something believed only by those not in possession of the bibles full truth.
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« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2008, 05:46:50 PM »

The christians did not see him as a nazarite, christianity as a body of worshipers did not exist till after the time of Jesus in the modern sense of the word, which i believe you are referencing to, i could be wrong in your meaning though. The writers of the new testament or to be more exact the interpolaters of that body of work wrote in that he was a nazarite to make it seem he was the fullfiller of old testament prophecy. They say there was a town called Nazarith which he came from which is why they called him the Nazarene, which has been proven to be false, there was not a town by that name until much later in history which shows that the writers, WHO WERE ROMAN PRIESTS OF THE SUN CULT SOL INVICTUS, did not do there homework before compiling the story. What was "in it for them" was a political power that unrivaled anything before which held the people in superstition and blind faith to the Roman empire under the "Vicar" (vicariuos) of Christ, head of the new religion called Christianity which was brought into existence by Constantine in 325 as a political move to put all of Rome and surrounding areas under one banner. This is the real history and can be looked into for ones self who wishes, or they can believe the "official" story given by  virgin old men who were funny looking robes.
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« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2008, 05:58:41 PM »

The christians did not see him as a nazarite, christianity as a body of worshipers did not exist till after the time of Jesus in the modern sense of the word,

Complete ignorance as to everything that Rastafari stands for. Perhaps now even children can overstand how teaching like this is antagonistic to I and I if not just immature homophobic type commonry.
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