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« on: September 17, 2008, 02:40:39 PM »

Bless up.

As many Idren smoke herb, I thought this might be an interesting topic for I and I to ponder on and discuss.

Herb has, over the years, been related (by scientists) to many and illness of mind and body. My question is basically "why". For it was give for meditation and happiness to all Idren, but it still seems to have downsides. What are your opinions on this?

My personal opinion is: Though herb is a happy joy and gift for all to share in Inity, many have claimed all from curing cancer to causing it. As I and I rasta believe it be given to us as a gift, I say that people abuse the gift we have been given. We condemn slackness for it nah help no-one, but do we use herb as an excuse to slack?

I only smoke herb or consider smoking herb on di sabbath, for it is meant as relaxation and happiness, and I refuse to use it when I have duties to attend to. I have chosen to educate myself to be able to earn an income that is high enough to give away but still live with enough for food and rent, and sometimes joys for myself (I game alot.), and this requires some duties to be fulfilled, so I never smoke herb. But my Idren that I hear of smoke herb outside of the sabbath, skip work, and some hardly support themselves just to smoke herb. This I think of as slackness, and possibly harmful to them. Can one be slack but still righteous?

I admit I have been guilty for materialism and slackness, but I now try to repent, and think I am doing quite well. All thanks to Jah RastafarI, I am sure. I have not taken my vow to be fully  nazarite yet, for I feel I am not ready yet, and am preparing myself for it, but I think I will soon be ready for it which fills my heart with joy.

Question and topic of discussion remains: What is your opinion as to why Herb may, or may not be harmful?

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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2008, 10:32:17 PM »

well the way i see it is only the lazy or immature smoker smokes n doesn't support his family. a responsible person does what he has to do to support his family n gets his work done.
that's why i smoke only a lil if i don't think i will be able to get things done. and if every things done n i don't have to worry bout any thing then i use more.
only use whats good for you. the herb is a personal experience.
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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2008, 09:49:09 PM »

i smoke the herb everyday and have done so for years.  i find that i am able to complete tasks throughout the day with no real problems because i usually work in the day and smoke at the time of day ending. 
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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2009, 05:49:39 PM »

What you have to remember is that these ''studies'' are just that.  Studies.  Studies show Cannabis can cause schizophrenia.  Studies show Cannabis can cause cancer.  However studies are not verified FACTS.

Man grew up with the herb from the moment Jah created him.  How come it is only in the last 100 years man finds a problem with herb? Babylon emergence, brothers!

Do a comparison : Make a list of all the ways herb helps you relax, helps your mind, helps overstand, and all the PROVEN ways it is medicinal to man.

Now make a list of all the ways herb has been PROVEN to be harmful to mankind!

InI think list number one will be far, far, FAR bigger than list number 2!

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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2009, 02:41:44 PM »

i smoke the herb maybe once a month if that
1 because Babylon has tampered with the herb by lacing it with other more harmful substances so it is hard to come by pure herb
2 like the OP said other responsibilities come first and ganja isn't the only way to reach Jah
3 i need to be able to pass a drug test here and there

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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2010, 04:03:38 PM »

What you have to remember is that these ''studies'' are just that.  Studies.  Studies show Cannabis can cause schizophrenia.  Studies show Cannabis can cause cancer.  However studies are not verified FACTS.
 

Agreed, In the US when they test Canabis for these studies on weather it can cause schizophrenia  or not they only test the THC, meaning all the other elements of the herb are not tested, but when CBD was tested  by and independant company it prooved to acually Have Anti-phycotic properties and is now being extracted and used in medication in the uk.

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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2010, 10:20:33 PM »

Agreed, In the US when they test Canabis for these studies on weather it can cause schizophrenia  or not they only test the THC, meaning all the other elements of the herb are not tested, but when CBD was tested  by and independant company it prooved to acually Have Anti-phycotic properties and is now being extracted and used in medication in the uk.

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it's only proven to increase schizophrennia's development in predisposed persons.
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« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2010, 01:26:36 PM »

Quote from: RastaFox link=topic=5345. msg75355#msg75355 date=1254145304
i smoke the herb maybe once a month if that
1 because Babylon has tampered with the herb by lacing it with other more harmful substances so it is hard to come by pure herb
2 like the OP said other responsibilities come first and ganja isn't the only way to reach Jah
3 i need to be able to pass a drug test here and there

Jah bless to ma bredren
-Jon
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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2010, 09:08:33 PM »

                                                                                                                                                                                  The I truely believes that Babylon messes with the holy herb?Does the I have ne specific ways or things they do to the bud that u no of?
drug dealers dat wan nothing but the money in your pocket lace the herb with addicting tings like pcp and such, its nah safe unless you know who is growin it an what dey doin with it
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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2010, 11:13:57 PM »

Bless up.

As many Idren smoke herb, I thought this might be an interesting topic for I and I to ponder on and discuss.

Herb has, over the years, been related (by scientists) to many and illness of mind and body. My question is basically "why". For it was give for meditation and happiness to all Idren, but it still seems to have downsides. What are your opinions on this?

My personal opinion is: Though herb is a happy joy and gift for all to share in Inity, many have claimed all from curing cancer to causing it. As I and I rasta believe it be given to us as a gift, I say that people abuse the gift we have been given. We condemn slackness for it nah help no-one, but do we use herb as an excuse to slack?

I only smoke herb or consider smoking herb on di sabbath, for it is meant as relaxation and happiness, and I refuse to use it when I have duties to attend to. I have chosen to educate myself to be able to earn an income that is high enough to give away but still live with enough for food and rent, and sometimes joys for myself (I game alot.), and this requires some duties to be fulfilled, so I never smoke herb. But my Idren that I hear of smoke herb outside of the sabbath, skip work, and some hardly support themselves just to smoke herb. This I think of as slackness, and possibly harmful to them. Can one be slack but still righteous?

I admit I have been guilty for materialism and slackness, but I now try to repent, and think I am doing quite well. All thanks to Jah RastafarI, I am sure. I have not taken my vow to be fully  nazarite yet, for I feel I am not ready yet, and am preparing myself for it, but I think I will soon be ready for it which fills my heart with joy.

Question and topic of discussion remains: What is your opinion as to why Herb may, or may not be harmful?

Rasta follow most high and be blessed.

First of all herb has no "downsides" !! There are many people out there that do not take no herb and still show the so called "side- effects" you talk of.
All I can say is that if an individual is lazy then regardless of what that individual does - he still will be lazy. Simple.

There are many out there that do not take the herb and show the signs you describe e.g., too lazy to go to work, no aim or purpose in life, etc., etc.,
What has that got to do with herb ?

If you are lazy you are lazy ! - Simple. Herb is not gonna make it better or worse ! You are what you make yourself to be. If you have no motivation in life then you live your life without motivation. Do not put the blame on the HERB ! Many out there that drink alcohol, sniff cocaine, shoot up needles in them arms, etc., etc., and do the same things ! There are probably even more that do not take nothing and still show the very same signs ! So what is them problem ?? Too much fresh air ?? So now, according to "psy-ntists" the herb is to blame ?? LOL. That is a very idiotic and negative way of thinking and, most of all, not true at all.

As to sickness resulting from herb - where is the proof !?? Them talk and talk and talk but can them prove it for all of us to see !!? Well till now they have only proved it for themselves cause I still have yet to see it !! Talk is cheap when you have nothing at all to back up what it is you (the scientists is who I mean) are saying ! Simple.

So those so called psy-ntists can kiss my black psy-ntifical ... for all I care. Rasta is not a science. It is a way, a righteous way, of life and we nah need no psy-ntifical rules or misinterpretations, lies, propaganda that puts the blame of mankind upon a plant that THE MOST HIGH created !! I and I will never ever bow down to man made laws or mis-ideaologies just because of some bombaclaat psy-ntists say-so.

You are what you are regardless of what you consume !! Fact !! If you can not, as and individual - take it, then leave it alone but, you are still gonna be who you are with or without. Stop using the Herb as an excuse for your own filthiness, laziness, badness, etc., etc.,

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« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2010, 01:32:34 AM »

Blessed Perfect Love,
Well I have so much tings to say on dis topic
being a "Spiritual Herbologist" (a field I coined Iself, by the Grace of the Almighty)
it is a field which one develops the full-sensory perception whereby one can communicate psychically or "channel", automatic writing with the I AM presence of the Herb Spirit/Devic being
this is what Cannabis Sativa said to me
"A love Herb of the most delightful kind, I give most pleasurable feelings to those that ingest I (nyah note - not always, in I experience)
I am generally used for upliftment of the mind and emotions, although this is merely a symptom of my ability to unlock doorways to higher consciousness/the Universal Mind. I am a mental stimulant yet also mentally calming. I act to enhance the senses, bringing one to a state of enthrallment, wonder and bliss at the sheer ecstasy of being. Joy is my nature, ecstasy my being, many have been brought to the bring of enlightenment through daily or occasional use of me (Nyah note - brink - meaning it doesn't take you all the way, you have to get there yourself).
I tap into ones inner creative core and act as a bridge for the conscious mind to merge into infinite oneness (Nyah's note -top Chakra stuff, not necessarily grounding, more space you outness, but you know what they say -you gotta get out of it to get into it)), a corridor of light fills the senses as my spirit enters your being, creative energy rises (Nyah note - thats Kundalini energy, not to be taken lightly, or paradoxically to be taken very lightly, Kundalini is the most powerful energy in the universe, it lives at the base of the spine and is stirred trhough sexuality, spiritual practises,certain music, dance, and following your bliss without hesitation, ethno-botanics such as Hola Herb, n hallucinagens, but be careful, to much kundalini arising too quickly can unhinge a person if all their Chakras are not cleared and balanced, leading to mental illness and ailienation from the rest of society ) and cretes an outpouring of Spirit fanned by the fire of my glowing orb. Flowing sensations, flouting feelings, easing you into the transistion from 3 density physicality to 4 th density Spirit-in-Matter. Music is my language, muse my nature, mystic my manifested motion, when partaking of me please take conscious consideration that I am experiencing myself merging with the me of you. I love full awareness, also flouting ambience of experience, poetry in motion, magic of mood , moon food (Nyah note (?))I sometime act as an amplifier of mental patterns and reactions, when it is appropriate, this serves the purpose of alerting the personality of certain beliefs, for their are no limitations only beliefs......"
Im gonna have to leave it their duty calls
I will post more and continue this reasoning another day
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« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2011, 02:05:14 PM »

As far a slazynes goes. is couch lock lazy?   Lets Start over. There is herb and there is herb, and allherb does not have the same efects. Furthermoore everyone reacts difrently to the herb. A strain that is good for I might not be good for another.  And there are strains for use in the day the cerebral head high and there are other  strains for the night time that will "couchlock " ypu and make you very "lazy" Butt I would not call it lazy, just a deeper meditative state.

Butt mayby the difrent strains created is the tampering of the herb by babylon?
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