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[prophet777]

Just something I have been thinking on...

If He/She is ONE and "THE MESSAGE" is "ONE" then why are there so many (mis-) interpretations of that "ONE" ? Why are there so many divisions of that "ONE" ? Think of it in a mathematical sense...ONE is not many...

How can it be that ONE has become so many other things for mankind (Man and Woman) ? That is why I do not "bow down" to anything that binds I. If I man is bound to certain laws that want to teach I who I am then I am not bound to ONE but, unto many ("laws").

Then I am not being me but, many – in a so called “one”. Still don't get it ? Well a “legion” (of devils) is many in one. And a legion is mostly, or in all cases, used or refer to "devils" in one. Funny thing is that if u add "re" to "legion" then what do you get ? “re-legion”

"Re" means :

 “in reference to” or “in regard to”. It is from the Latin word “Res”, meaning “thing”.

So add those 2 2gether and what do you get ? I.E., a combined "thing"...I.E. many in one...I.E a description for a legion...of devils...Get it now ?? Re-ligion ! A bunch of  devils combined in “ONE.”

What is mankind's main problem nowadays ? RE-LIGION !

RE-LIGION will never, never, never, ever bring mankind together !! Proof is - it never has done ! RE - Legion has caused more blood shed than any thing else that is natural in this world ! So for I, ( or anyone else) to call I self RASTA and follow that, is, for I (personally), a shame unto mankind. Simple. I , for “MY”- self, can not, and refuse to follow something that is not the solution but, the MAIN PROBLEM !! And the LIE -ble is the head construction of that confusion !! SIMPLE. It is the main source...

Yet !!  I see all my Idrens and Sistrens being con-troll-ed by this stupid belief......A belief in something that never ever, ever, has done any other “good” for them but, misery and confusion  !! A belief that has in fact..divided them !! A belief that was used to seperate them during times of slavery !! A belief that still nowadays seperates them ! A belief that will never ever bring them back together again...A belief that has overcome their own very culture an traditions ! A belief that has overcome them selves !! And yet, they still go on believing in it and support it.....

And they really wonder why they are in the positions they are in ??

Got much more to say but, right now, something tells I to not pursue it further until later...So, it is up to all of u now to print your thoughts upon this matter at hand...

I c many of u neglecting I thoughts, in order to pursue many others that may satisfy you and the legions you follow...but, I interest is not in you but, in those that are mankind enough to stand for themselves !! I interest is in those who can think for themselves !! I interetst is in those who follow the "TRUE LIGHT OF THIS WORLD" and his name is definitely not Jesus.

I am not an "x-slave wanna be RASTA" (like most foolish black americans, carribeans..lost souls)) or "another wanna be I" (excuse I for being so direct), that still bow down to masters books or fake gods !! I am one of the original RASTA, straight out of ZULULAND -  and I man see no one else over I other than I ! I life is is I HANDS and I choose I destiny..

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Posted on: November 13, 2010, 02:29:43 AMNow.. don't get I wrong..because many so called Africans out there that do not know themselves too ! Black on the outside but so babylon inside !! Like coconuts !! Oh yes I will use the color to define it but, color is not my main concern it is just something I can use to get your attention...and, at the same time,  it is true !!

Truth is - most black people like to "still kiss masters ass" by following what them "master" follows !! Do not make the mistake of seeing real RASTA in that position cause REAL RASTAMAN nah deal in that battynism !! Nuff said for now......Till later. It is time for us to really say how we feel but, black people have been oppressed so long that they are afraid to be who they are !! Afraid they might get thrown out of europe (you-rope) the same rope they used to hang us with back in slavery !! But, not I !! They can follow back I IP adress for all I care I will still tell it like it is !!

Until the day that all I people are free, I am not free, so...Until the day that ALL MANKIND (MAN, CHILD, WOMAN and even the poor ANIMALS that babylon use and murder for food) can be really ONE and unlike a legion of devils - I man will chant on !!


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[HighSpirit]

Greetingz,

first of all i want to thank you for your Topic/Post.  I can really understand what the I is feeling.  His Majesty once said that Religion is just a way to find Jah and Religion isn't the main part of life.  Its the spirituality which can grow through religion, but can only start with your inner spirit.  I don´t follow any rules or any Religion, because I think if you just follow rules you will get in captivity, because you cant free your mind and soul, you cant find your own way to life together in Unity and Respect.

Its true because of religion so many people died or where used as objects.  I feel myself as a Rasta too, but I need to learn much more.  The rules of peaceful living can only grow in the heart of I, because only than you did really understand what it means to live like this and that.  If I take any rules of living I cant really understand them, because I didnt feel them for myself.
Its true, there are many false people who say they life Rasta, but in their inner sense they don't really life it and so they cant spread it out.
I work as a kindergarten teacher and I see if someone of the adults lies or tries to be happy and funny, but in his inner he is angry or stressed the children start to "fight" against the lie, because they feel it if someone isn't true.
I for myself know that I do wrong sometimes, but if i notice it I try to fix it, to understand what is going wrong.  Don't be false to yourself, because you lie to yourself and that's a sin and Jah knows whats in your deepest soul, never forget that.  If you do not life what you talk you are right inna Babylon, your spirit will get destroyed or confused and your soul will get dirty.  His Majesty always said that wisdom and education is a main part in living together and it has to do with wisdom , if you first think and meditate about the way you life.  Those who stay wont move forward, so never forget to learn and teach yourself from life.  Each one Teach one 

Bless

[surfmon~I]

Give Thanks
When The One is so vast, so encompassing there is no way to view the entirety from one perspective.   Hence many paths to the center.   Many views of what is common thread among ALL

Iman like the RE:Legion study The I put forth.   

Regarding Liebel. . . Like religion, "may be" a path for some to worship the Divine.   

Bredren the problem is with holding the "one" path as Only, and lessening the Sacred~ness of others.   This is where conflict arise.   Throughout history.  Eversince.

Human Kind must wake to the realization that the betterside of themselves is the portion that is least tapped.   It is only glimpsed once a person connects to the Light that is in their Heart~Center.   It is a resting place for the soul, in this lifecycle.

Iman know that History is NOT Istory.   The I is much, MUCH more for a Rasta.   I also know that there is a ways to go for even Rasta to get to see a Unified Vision.

The mass appeal of Rastafari as THE pathway must not take away from the personal work one must do to find JAH, SEE it in themselves.   TEN ACT on it by integrating it into our every~day live.   None are perfect. , but our lifes work must be in spreading the Sacred Light withIN.

JAH Guide

[prophet777]

Idrens and Sistrens I overstand what you all mean..I was there before (in that position). I have come to realize that it is up to I and I to make sense out of non-sense. I do not, and never ever will/want, for anyone to follow what I have found for I self. Rather more I would like for all to get to think for themselves, as you all do, and further it for the development of mankind - not for I self.

This is for the rest :

I "hate" "pretenders" - those that come in sheep clothing in order to "mix up" I and I ideas (own thoughts) - and, at the same time, try to bind them down according to them man made laws. Right now, present (hope I spelled that right), I live in "germ- money" (the root of all evil). Sorry to say that but, that is how I feel. I have been to school (the rule fool - "true fool") and I have a reason (even more than one to be angry !!). Further more, my school grades were the best (yes, "the BEST") in this country at the time I made them. Still I have no opportunity in this country to be what I want to be..now ask yourself why...I am not given the chance- no matter how hard I try !! Why ? Well I know how germans think and I have come to realize that they will never accept a BLACK man in their positions !! FACT !! If it is not a FACT, well, let them prove it !! Till now they have not !! AND I HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR OVER  10 years !! LOL. Yeah man.....

I can overstand kids of our days and, with every part of I soul, I will support them !! Schools are useless !! As long as children have to learn a lie then, this shitstem has become useless.....As long as they learn lies it is okay but, confront them (the teachers) with the truth and see they reactions..LOL

Why ? Well, the lies they teach in schools will never ever help your child to be him or she self !! FACT !! They will never ever be proud of themselves in this shitstem !! They never ever will be them - but, living a lie !! It is up to you, who know what a gwaan, to teach them !!

Now, I will talk from a "black" point , just to bring an example !! If you go out there and teach your children that GOD is white and Jesus is white then where are you, as a "black" ? Where are you in that ISTORY ?? The blacker you are...the further away from them and they god you are !! Simple.

Now, just to show how foolish most of "you" are,  history has even taught us that Jesus walked in sandals ! Well in those days, ice cold, winter days, do you really think he just wore a garment and sandals ?? LOL. Just shows how foolish you r !! The so called Is-RA-EL was an "iceland" in the days of JESUS !! Go back in ISTORY and find it out for yourself !! And yet, according to them doc-u-ments, the people where in summer clothing !! LOL.
You all take facts to be simple but, it ain't that simple !!

If there ever was a man called Jesus he definitely came from a warm land - warm enough to wear sandals and a garment !! Just like you all believe that Arabs created Egypt !! Egypt existed before Arabs even knew where it was !! Check Herodotus (or whatever his name was) - he explains clearly- very clearly how the Egyptians looked like !! "Woolly hair, Big, FLAT noses, Big Flat lips, blackened by the sun !!" Do Arabs look that way ?? LOL. They did not even now how to braid hair, like AFRICANS, till they reached AFRICA !!

Further more proof is that the Arabs were not even existent in AFRICA till long AFTER the pyramids stood !!


Now, excuse me for using the term "you all" or "you" when I speak - I do not mean it as "you" interpret-ate" it - I mean it as it is !! It is addressed to "those"....

"GOD", as you think to KNOW HIM, addressed to those of you who think they know him, WILL, AND CAN NEVER EXIST, in that form you think HIM to be!!

Wanna find HIM ? HE IS IN YOU !! DON'T LOOK NO FURTHER !! FIND YOURSELF AND YOU WILL FIND HIM !! 1+1...SIMPLE.

"GOD" does not exist in a man made book !!
If you think it to be so then, that book is more precious than your life !! SIMPLE mathematics....It is just a "lie man made book" that was used, by the devil, to confuse mankind as it still does to nowadays !! Do not make the mistake of a book, or a man made character in it, being "over you" if "GOD" is your true master !! SIMPLE.

I got much more to say, probably too much for most to take, but, I speak it as it is with no excuse....I have probably said too much anyway....

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Posted on: November 16, 2010, 04:03:30 PMAnd even tough I have said too much I still got one more thing to say, right now. As a matter of fact H.I.M. has said something that no ONE can deny !! Even though many have tried to use it to explain themselves H.I.M said it like it is !! :

"I have heard of that idea. I also met certain Rastafarians. I told them clearly that I am a man, that I am mortal, and that I will be replaced by the oncoming generation, and that they should never make a mistake in assuming or pretending that a human being is emanated from a deity."

Why try to interpret what H.I.M. said in a clear manner ? Do you all think that H.I.M. could not put it in a way that needs no further explanation ? Was H.I.M. so.... that you have to explain what H.I.M. said ?? Are you more intelligent than H.I.M. that you feel you have to break it down for all to overstand ?? H.I.M. said it as it is already !! The rest is man made crap !! Just like the bibel....

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[natty threads]

religion Look up religion at Dictionary.com
    c.1200, "state of life bound by monastic vows," also "conduct indicating a belief in a divine power," from Anglo-Fr. religiun (11c.), from O.Fr. religion "religious community," from L. religionem (nom. religio) "respect for what is sacred, reverence for the gods," in L.L. "monastic life" (5c.); according to Cicero, derived from relegare "go through again, read again," from re- "again" + legere "read" (see lecture). However, popular etymology among the later ancients (and many modern writers) connects it with religare "to bind fast" (see rely), via notion of "place an obligation on," or "bond between humans and gods." Another possible origin is religiens "careful," opposite of negligens. Meaning "particular system of faith" is recorded from c.1300.

        To hold, therefore, that there is no difference in matters of religion between forms that are unlike each other, and even contrary to each other, most clearly leads in the end to the rejection of all religion in both theory and practice. And this is the same thing as atheism, however it may differ from it in name. [Pope Leo XIII, Immortale Dei, 1885]

    Modern sense of "recognition of, obedience to, and worship of a higher, unseen power" is from 1530s.

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Religion will never join-
It is either repeated reading, which is not a trod but a rote,

or it is fetters.

Bless up.

[surfmon~I]

Natty, religions will never join because of the built~in possibility for humans to veer off into the classic downFall...Pride in Knowledge.  When one holds to the division rather that the similarity,  we have a split.  Once there is a split there can not be wholeness, until that split is mended.  Hence, the sacredness we all carry is of the Oneness.

Prophet, To see only what is wrong is to not show what is right.
 I can see that it must be frustrating to live in a place that does not recognize equal rights and a question I have is, why not move?.  To be from Africa and settle in Germany seems a difficult choice to have made.  Is it there, in Germany that your true message/self may be realized?
 

[natty threads]

The smarter I got the meaner I was, for sure.

Just let the days flow around us like water and Yah's Will shine through.

Always a work in progress.

Bless up!

[prophet777]

Natty, religions will never join because of the built~in possibility for humans to veer off into the classic downFall...Pride in Knowledge.  When one holds to the division rather that the similarity,  we have a split.  Once there is a split there can not be wholeness, until that split is mended.  Hence, the sacredness we all carry is of the Oneness.

Prophet, To see only what is wrong is to not show what is right.
 I can see that it must be frustrating to live in a place that does not recognize equal rights and a question I have is, why not move?.  To be from Africa and settle in Germany seems a difficult choice to have made.  Is it there, in Germany that your true message/self may be realized?
 

True...religions can not join cause what is not true can not join with what is.
To your question - "why not move?" - Move where ? Where in this world would I not be confronted with being who I am ? For I that would be like running away from, instead of confronting, the problem.

Germany, for I, is just another "brick" in the wall that holds all poor people down by sucking at the very essence of their (the poor people) existence and that is a no go for I. Maybe I talk so much about Germany but that is where I am living. If I was living in Switzerland or France = same thing. Where's the difference. What would moving help ?

It definitely would not help change the situation "world wide"...But, maybe openly talking about it, like I do, could spark something that eventually could make a change...

Being silent about it definitely will not do it...Seen ?

So, in order to correct a wrong one must indeed re-trace ones footsteps and look at the mistake that led to that wrong and then correct it. Ignoring it will not bring one further. Trying to act like the problem does not exist by ignorance does not further help it either.

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[HighSpirit]

I "hate" "pretenders" - those that come in sheep clothing in order to "mix up" I and I ideas (own thoughts) - and, at the same time, try to bind them down according to them man made laws.  Right now, present (hope I spelled that right), I live in "germ- money" (the root of all evil).  Sorry to say that but, that is how I feel.  I have been to school (the rule fool - "true fool") and I have a reason (even more than one to be angry !!).  Further more, my school grades were the best (yes, "the BEST") in this country at the time I made them.  Still I have no opportunity in this country to be what I want to be. . now ask yourself why. . . I am not given the chance- no matter how hard I try !! Why ? Well I know how germans think and I have come to realize that they will never accept a BLACK man in their positions !! FACT !! If it is not a FACT, well, let them prove it !! Till now they have not !! AND I HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR OVER  10 years !! LOL.  Yeah man. . . . .

Yeah, you are right! I live in Germany all of my life and it´s a wicked place.  All the things the people around here is to be fools and devil supporters.  They teach Babylon stuff and try to downpress everyone since he/she is a little child.  I growed in that shitstem and if you live like that it only destroys the I.  You will never get the try to be yourself if you dont fight against those Babylonians, you know!
The only thing you can do is talk the truth and dont have no fear to life the truth

Bless

[JAHwalkwidme]

Education is from the latin word 'educare', meaning 'to bring forth what is within', so what you were saying about living from within (spirit) rather than living from without (religion, rules, whatever) is actually central to the IDEAL of education.

'Education' in Babylon is providing sheep for the workforce who will stand in lines, turn up on time, and shut up when told to.  It is a moulding system, of which the only benefit is training children to financially survive in Babylon (and even that point is arguable).  It is where Babylon can inculcate their views to the next generation.  This is exactly what you have said is undesirable.

If a religion is a set of values, rules and restrictions based around a central feature, Babylon can be classes as a religion itself.  It worships money, promotes materialism, individualism, homosexuality etc etc and its church is the school.  That is why it surprises and pains me to see so many Rasta sending their children to school.

However, I cannot agree with you when you say religion is mankind's greatest problem.  I agree with the poster who said it is the view that one has the exclusive truth that is the problem.  You say that many problems in the world were caused by religion.  I think in many cases the problems were caused by greed, and religion was used to justify the action.

For example, I am speculating, and am currently researching on this.  I know missionaries of Christianity have been around since its birth.  However, Evangelicals did not come about until the 1700s, the peak of the enslavement of Afrikans in the Transatlantic trade.  It is my thinking that the motivation of greed was covered with a new emphasis on 'no one can get to heaven except through Jesus' line, making it the 'white man's burden' to go and 'civilise' and 'educate' the Afrikans (i.e. rob them of their culture, faith, land, resources etc).  So it follows that Christianity did not cause this to happen, rather it was used as a false justification.

Now that Western life is much more secular, the new tools for false justification are 'democracy' and 'human rights', to cover the true motivation of greed and power.

Religion is supposed to be a list of guidelines in order to further one's spiritual development.  However, they have become monsters and are used for the wrong reasons all the time.  That said, the BASIS of the religion should not be attacked or judged in my opinion, in that the basis is spiritual.  It is the man made additions leading to corruption and distortion of the original spiritual truths that should be judged.  So rather than saying religion is the cause of many problems, I would rather say that human abuse of religion is the cause of many problems.

Jah bless

[umas]

easy. . .

I see there being diferent messengers bearing different messages, arriving at points in time, points on the globe. . . . Humankind has the power of free will, so the Highest has left it up to wo/man to determine which part of which message is relevant at which time in which place.  Recently H. I. M.  passes our way, as did Ghandi, M. J. King was here, Marcus Garvey was here, further back Bhudda was here, Muhammad was here, Jesus was here. . . . see how Islam led on from Christianity and Judaism, which in turn led on from Eygpt. . . . . Depending on Geography, Topography, point in time, personal situation, different words will be of relevance. . . . add to that the innumerable differences of thought and lifestyle, it seems that different messages bourne of different messengers are essential. . . . . but the messages also lie upon common ground, as does humankind. . . without wishing to use a cliché, at the end of the day, we all on the same planet, subject to the same force of LIFE, so the ONE is here as wo/man is ONE physically. . . there is more than one way to the Highest.

umas