Rasta Nicks Forum Rasta Nick's Forum - rastafarian - Reggae - Haile Selassie
May 24, 2012, 02:43:44 PM
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length
Rasta Nicks Forum and Rasta-man.co.uk are privately funded. Please help keep Rasta Nicks Forum and Rasta-man.co.uk running by making a donation via Pay Pal - it's fast, free and secure!
Or ya could just buy some seeds
Google Custom Search
News: check out the chatroom
Rasta Nick's Forum - rastafarian - Reggae - Haile Selassie  
   Home   Help Member Map Donations Login Register  

lowryder seeds

or go to www.jahseed.com

Subject Statistics
Topic: Know this has been done to death but... Replies: 22 posts
Read 970 times 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
Pages: [1] 2
  Print  
Author Topic: Know this has been done to death but...  (Read 970 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
JAHwalkwidme
Full User
***

Karma: 4
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 140


 

Rasta man live up

OS:
Windows Vista
Browser:
Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0




Ignore
« on: June 29, 2011, 09:25:29 PM »

Greetings

Rastas who are not black or of recent Afrikan ancestry...

How livicated are you to the ideal of Afrika for Afrikans?  If such repatriation was to occur, where would you be and why?  Do you embrace your skin colour as a label, or reject it and why?  If you could choose to change races and become black, would you take this offer?  How do you identify yourself in terms of race, nationality and ethnicity?

Curious...

Jah bless
Logged
Nazarite I
Senior User
****
United Kingdom

Karma: 7
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
United Kingdom United Kingdom

Posts: 251


 

OS:
Windows NT 6.1
Browser:
Firefox 5.0




Ignore
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2011, 03:05:36 AM »

Actually I don't think this has been done to death.

I and I have Reasoned a little on this before but nowhere near the fullness so I'll explain I overstanding of these questions to the fullness this time.

On how Livicated I and I must be to the ideal of Africa for Africans, I see that I and I must be Livicated to that ideal. Africa belongs to it's people, and I and I as non-Africans have no claim to it. The second question though I think should be what should I and I be doing now, because Repatriation has been happening since His Majesty granted land to Africans in the West in the 1940s and it is still happening now. RastafarI people have been busy, and many African nations have given land freely to Africans in the diaspora largely through the efforts of RastafarI organisations sending delegates to Africa and African embassies around the world.
What I and I as non-African RastafarI should be doing is assisting with Repatriation wherever I and I find I and Iselves. Whether that is through financial Itributions, volunteer work, passing on skills and knowledge or whatever. And it is also the case in these times that Africans are not the only people scattered across the globe through whatever reasons. RastafarI people come from every nation, people, colour, creed, culture and social or economic situation. Go to any country in the world and RastafarI people can be found somewhere when it has only been 80 years since the Emporer's coronation. The reality of that situation is that efforts towards the realisation of RastafarI goals are localised at this time and you find all sorts of people all over the place. There are fair skinned European Rastas who were born and raised in Africa and now find themselves Initing with the Africans to prepare the way for RastafarI people returning home from the African diaspora. There are native American RastafarI who grew up on reservations of their own land in poverty and now find themselves standing in solidarity with diaspora African RastafarI in Brixton. The Elect of every Nation have a part to play.

As for whether I embrace I skin colour and whether I would switch I skin colour if I could, I would definitely be fine with someone describing I skin as white. That is what colour it is. And I wouldn't switch it for the world. I and I know that the Almighty is in flesh, and that I and I must know and be happy with I and Iselves. Without that confidence and knowledge of the Iself, how can anyone expect to know Jah?
This links in with the last question, because I and I Identity is always linked into where I and I are born, how and where I and I are raised and where I and I ancestors came from. I am a man born and raised in an English village. I parents came from London and before them, I ancestors come from all over England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland. Before that they came not only from the native Britains, Celts and Picts, but also the countless invaders from the Normans to the Romans. There is no denying that without denying Iself.

Blessed love.
Logged
Eleazar
Normal User
**

Karma: 1
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
United States United States

Posts: 25


 

OS:
Windows XP
Browser:
Firefox 3.6.18




Ignore
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2011, 10:14:25 PM »

The Africans that were taken by force from Africa by the Europeans have a Right to Repatriate back to Africa, just as the First Nations People of North and South America have a Right to their land and the Europeans and Asians have a right to theirs.   

JAH RasTafarI Haile Selassie I created I as a white man of Irish  and Swiss German descent living in America and I am content with the way I am.     I do not seek to change the complexion of I skin.     All the people of the Earth should take pride in their race, culture, and ancestry.   

So as Marcus Garvey say,

------------------------------------
13 We believe in the freedom of Africa for the Negro people of the world, and by the principle of Europe for the Europeans and Asia for the Asiatics; we also demand Africa for the Africans at home and abroad.   

14.    We believe in the inherent right of the Negro to possess himself of Africa, and that his possession of same shall not be regarded as an infringement on any claim or purchase made by any race or nation.   

15.    We strongly condemn the cupidity of those nations of the world who, by open aggression or secret schemes, have seized the territories and inexhaustible natural wealth of Africa, and we place on record our most solemn determination to reclaim the treasures and possession of the vast continent of our forefathers.   

16.    We believe all men should live in peace one with the other, but when races and nations provoke the ire of other races and nations by attempting to infringe upon their rights, war becomes inevitable, and the attempt in any way to free one's self or protect one's rights or heritage becomes justifiable.   
------------------------------------

And as Nazarite I said, RasTafarI people all over the Earth have their Role to play in bringing about the Judgements of the Seven Seals on babylon opened by The Lion of Judah, Haile Selassie I JAH RasTafarI. 

« Last Edit: June 30, 2011, 10:17:27 PM by Eleazar » Logged
rasmoses
Regular User
**
United States

Karma: 1
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
United States United States

Posts: 50


Scorpio   Red Skywalker - Explores SpaceRhythmic

RasMoses

OS:
Windows NT 6.1
Browser:
Microsoft Internet Explorer 9.0




Ignore
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2011, 01:50:23 AM »

I and I plan on moving to Ghana. Fact. Am I under any illusion that I am "repatriating?" No. After living there and carrying out works, I will most likely return to America. If I am called, which I have been by people living there, and the Almighty, I and I am entitled to follow I calling. As long as your hand is clean and your heart is pure, Jah will help provide for all His children. As for all else, I agree. Except I don't know if I agree H.I.M. is alive in flesh...still expanding knowledge and continuing to read as the Prophet Garvey instructed.
Ras
Posted on: July 01, 2011, 01:47:27 AM
And the skin color thing...I support black liberation to the fullness, as I and I know that as far as Jah works, we all must carry that out, as it is at the core of I and I movement. But I also know that as far as Iself, Jah see no color, and neither shall I. Always open to more opinions.
Logged
Rastamik
Normal User
**

Karma: 1
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 33


 

Be just and fear not

OS:
Windows NT 6.1
Browser:
Firefox 5.0




Ignore
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2011, 02:45:05 AM »

   `Greetings
  If a white person hails H.I.M. as his King and a black person hails H.I.M as his King,then there should be a shared knowledge and overstanding between these people.The fact is that part of what babylon does is encourage separation of people by encouraging ignorance and prejudice.It is also a fact that I + I  Rasta are from all parts of the world and from a variety of cultures.Lots of I and I are neither black nor white.
 
So how can I truly know who I am if I want to be someone else or look like someone else ?.How can I be free of a babylon mentality when I classify people by complexion and ethnicity instead of Livity.
  Perhaps the question is how do Rasta who check I n I complexion deal with the diverse complexion of Rasta that now exist.If we are all equal in the eyes of Jah then I n I are obliged to strive for these ideals.Is Rasta inclusive or exclusive ?

 One Love  Rastafari
Logged

Jah Live
JAHwalkwidme
Full User
***

Karma: 4
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 140


 

Rasta man live up

OS:
Windows XP
Browser:
Microsoft Internet Explorer 7.0




Ignore
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2011, 05:29:02 PM »

Nazarite

If you have no place in Afrika (Afrika for the Afrikans, Europe for the Europeans), do you think that only those of Anglo-Saxon heritage have a place in the UK?  And do you disagree with interracial relationships?  In short, do you advocate separatism and if this is so what do you base that view on?

Jah bless
Logged
Nazarite I
Senior User
****
United Kingdom

Karma: 7
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
United Kingdom United Kingdom

Posts: 251


 

OS:
Windows NT 6.1
Browser:
Firefox 6.0




Ignore
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2011, 01:10:41 AM »

No I don't stand for separatism.

What I am speaking about when I speak about things like Africa for the Africans and Europe for Europeans is the recognition of the sovereignty of the people over the land. In this time and the times before it, many of the nations of the earth have had no respect for the sovereignty of other peoples over their own lands. So it was that the nations of Europe invaded and enslaved most of Africa. So it was that Mussolini tried to finish the job when he invaded Ithiopia. So it is that in this time, I and I see multinational corporations making so much money out of the natural resources of the world while leaving the people who live on the land in poverty. It was that sovereignty that His Majesty was standing up to represent when He went before the League of Nations and it is that that I and I stand and represent also.

People have lived in nations other than their nation of origin peacefully for a long time however, and if a man from wherever wants to come and live in I land for whatever reason, he is welcome in I sight provided he doesn't bring wickedness with him. I just wish that I people were more welcoming to such people because in this time I see groups like the BNP and EDL becoming more prominent.

As for interracial relationships, I see no problem with that. When a man and a wombman have that bond of love in the sight of the Almighty, nothing can stand in the way of that. It is a bond that crosses all boundaries of culture, colour or whatever, as long as it is in the sight of the Most High.

Blessed love.
Logged
JAHwalkwidme
Full User
***

Karma: 4
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 140


 

Rasta man live up

OS:
Windows XP
Browser:
Microsoft Internet Explorer 7.0




Ignore
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2011, 03:38:11 PM »

Thank you for this clarification.  Now I overstand your viewpoint and actually agree with you.

However, I would draw the conclusion that anyone can participate in Afrikan affairs, provided they have the right intentions and ideology behind their actions (i.e. not with greed or paternalistic motivations).  This rules out most if not all white, Chinese etc corporations, but also a lot of black operations.  I would say that the criteria is solely the correct motivation, and as such whatever 'colour' or 'race' you have been created, becomes irrelevant.  You cannot dismiss the idea of for example, 'African-American' exploitation of Afrika, or internal Afrikan exploitation.  The question is, who sets the rules on behaviour in Afrika as a whole?  And who should?

And yes, the right to self-government must be respected at all times.  But again, how is that manifested?  The west would say a democracy is necessary.  What is your opinion.

Jah bless
Logged
Nazarite I
Senior User
****
United Kingdom

Karma: 7
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
United Kingdom United Kingdom

Posts: 251


 

OS:
Windows NT 6.1
Browser:
Firefox 6.0




Ignore
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2011, 10:29:06 PM »

I see right through their demo-crazy. When nations like America and Britain talk about democracy, they are talking about setting up governments that will cooperate and conform with their plans. It is like after the invasion of Iraq when they brought in candidates for a a so-called democratic elections, but they were all pro-America people who would agree to whatever they were told and had their campaigns bankrolled. Same thing I and I see in Africa when western nations back and fund those candidates who will work closest with the big multinationals that run the mineral and oil extraction and such things. Any candidates that stand against that exploitation get fought down through various means. I and I see them trying it in Zimbabwe against Mugabe. Say what you want about the man, but I and I cannot deny that he has the interests of Africa at heart. They even still give military backing to the candidates they support. I don't know too much about what happened, but that business in Ivory Coast not long ago seems to I a perfect example of that. Where the French carried out air strikes with attack helicopters to assist one side in the conflict in what used to be a French colony. Or when the CIA and Belgian secret service assassinated Patrice Lumumba in Congo because he was working for a truly independent African state rather than a puppet of the former colonialists.
What Africa needs in this time is development by Africans, for the African people. I know I and I Reasoned about that mining company set up by the Sistren of the NNC in Zimbabwe, and that is the kind of development that is needed. Groups that will work to put the African people first and put funding into good works on the continent.
Western demo-crazy will not work with that because it is a system set and largely controlled by the western powers. Answerable to the IMF and World Bank and other vampires that are motivated only by money. If it was true democracy, then there would no underhand dealing and power brokering and such wickedness, but I can't see that happening. Babylon doesn't work so. They back, bankroll and arm those who will work with them. So it has always been and so it will stay until babylon falls.

Blessed love.
Logged
Oskar
Veteran User
*****

Karma: 12
Offline Offline

Posts: 1424


 

Rasta man live up

OS:
Mac OS X
Browser:
Safari




Ignore
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2011, 08:36:50 AM »

I've been trying to stay informed in this age of information but it has proved to be a difficult task because of all the propaganda.

The Ivory Coast situation for example. What I hear in the news before the French went into action was things like a market full of civilians being shelled with mortar fire. A situation like that is not really nice for common people.

I fully suport proper authorities to intercede and restore order when common people are suffering because of the power struggle of wannabe "leaders", like, if Mugabe has the interest of Africa at heart why is he harboring Mengistu?
Logged
Nazarite I
Senior User
****
United Kingdom

Karma: 7
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
United Kingdom United Kingdom

Posts: 251


 

OS:
Windows NT 6.1
Browser:
Firefox 6.0




Ignore
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2011, 01:04:08 PM »

True that no man is perfect. Like I said, I don't know too much about the situation in Ivory Coast because there was hardly any news about it, but what I did hear led I to believe there was more going on than meets the eye.
As for Mugabe, I am acutely aware that a lot of the things said about the man and his policies in the west are pure propaganda. Still though, the I is right about the man sheltering Mengistu and there are some things in his policies that I do not think best serve the people. Still, the man does put the interests of Zimbabwe over the interests of the big international mining corporations and such, and that is needed at this time, because those corporations have only love of money in their hearts.

Blessed love.
Logged
JAHwalkwidme
Full User
***

Karma: 4
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 140


 

Rasta man live up

OS:
Windows XP
Browser:
Microsoft Internet Explorer 7.0




Ignore
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2011, 02:18:29 PM »

Oskar, who are 'proper authorities'?
Logged
Oskar
Veteran User
*****

Karma: 12
Offline Offline

Posts: 1424


 

Rasta man live up

OS:
Mac OS X
Browser:
Safari




Ignore
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2011, 06:09:18 AM »

someone who acctually cares about the people and not only to be in power. not caring about only one tribe but caring about all tribes. you nah see it?
Logged
JAHwalkwidme
Full User
***

Karma: 4
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 140


 

Rasta man live up

OS:
Windows XP
Browser:
Microsoft Internet Explorer 7.0




Ignore
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2011, 07:54:27 PM »

Are you saying that someone like this exist?
Logged
Oskar
Veteran User
*****

Karma: 12
Offline Offline

Posts: 1424


 

Rasta man live up

OS:
Mac OS X
Browser:
Safari




Ignore
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2011, 07:27:01 AM »

as per instruction of his majesty this is what i'm working towards. burning out all imperfection within iself that prevent this unity among people taking place.
Logged
Rasta Nicks Forum
   

 Logged
Pages: [1] 2 K-Detection © 2007
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

seedsman
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP © 2007 rasta nick's forum Powered by SMF 1.1.16 | SMF © 2011, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.172 seconds with 25 queries.

Google visited last this page May 15, 2012, 07:27:40 PM