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[SuperSmile]

I was reading a book named "Gospel of H.I.M Haile selassie I Book 1" and whilst reading there came up a section about Marcus Garvey and the Back to Africa movement, in this book it goes to say how Marcus Garvey talked about the "Back to Africa" movement which it says in this book was originally proclaimed by REV James Morris Webb. Now it carrys on saying that Marcus garvey used the back to Africa campaign to help boost his own organization selfishly, "The united Negro Improvement Association". It also states in this book and i quote "Mr Garvey, would latter utter and publish against H.I.M Haile selassie to the hurt of the beloved". The book later goes on to call Marcus Garvey a "Hypocrite and Traitor". Now i have read some of the book titled " Selected writings and speeches of Marcus Garvey" and i have done some background research on him, and it seems to me this man had the right intentions to help his fellow people, but this book "Gospel of H.I.M Haile selassie I Book 1" puts quite a neggative perspective of him. I am wondering what are your views on Marcus Garvey do you see him as a rightous man or a traitor as stated in this book.

Peace

[Oskar]

i have not read this particular book but i'm sure some of garvey can be seen as a bit too nationalistic. i wouldn't really blame black people though for all they have been through. sooner or later there is a point where you say enough is enough and since these people (white) used color for their discrimination to start with no wonder you try to stay away from them and start build your own institutions.

it is only together that we can overcome the kind of wickedness that seek to divide us though. the united nations provide an excellent framework for equal rights.

"We must become members of a new race, overcoming petty prejudices, owing our ultimate allegiance not to nations, but to our fellow men within the human community" -HIM Haile Selassie I Oct 6, 1963

[JAHwalkwidme]

Marcus Garvey is a big big hero of mine.

He had a huge organisation, in a time before the easy technological communications we have today.  He was a powerful man with strong convictions that he put into action on a worldwide scale.

You know what, if he wrote against HIM it does not change my opinion of him.  It hurts me a bit, but it does not take away from his great achievements and legacy.  No one ever said he was perfect, he wasn't Jah, and had human faults like the rest of us, including being wrong about things sometimes.

When whites do not want to let you in anywhere, want to oppress you and hold you down, you don't beg to get on their bus (a la Martin Luther King, although there is of course respect due there), you make your own bus and you make it a lot better, seen?  If whites want to come on the bus and be peaceful, then fine, but they cannot jump up and starting trying to run tings.  It is just about reclaiming power and self-determination.

'the united nations provide an excellent framework for equal rights.'
Oskar, you cannot be serious.

Jah bless and guide

[SuperSmile]

Yes i agree, Marcus Garvey is a very important person of this world, helping his people gain equal rights and justice.

[Oskar]

i respect what the i is saying about the movement to free black people jahwalkwidme so i will respond strictly to the quote. the charter claims absolute equality between cultures and peoples, on a national and international level, as long as there is respect for our differences among and between each other, nothing wrong with that. in my experience though the system that claim to uphold equal rights give precedence to certain cultures while discriminating against others based on one-sided reasons so i guess there is still work to do to improve the integrity of the system.

in short, there is a difference between the actions of an institution and the actual words upholding the idea.
Posted on: December 22, 2011, 01:38:57 AMgarvey was stuck on the idea that color differentiates people though. the color of ones skin is something very obvious to the eye but it has no effect whatsoever to the ability to choose ones way of life, as long as there ain't a system of discrimination in place.