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Title: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: moeskee on October 21, 2005, 11:46:32 PM
 first of all let me state that i am not a rasta, but i love to build with my people. when i talk to the rasta brothers and sisters in the hood, they seem to be concerned with the preservation of black history and black culture, so i defanately relate to them. i feel the pain of our people. its becoming increasingly hard for me to believe that white people can respect our culture because they have no clue. recently there was a post on weather or not white people can be rasta. i dont know because i realy dont know the requirements, but what i can say is i dont beleave that its possable with out them altering it to fit their own purposes. instead of excepting our culture 100% or rejecting it , they seem to change it so that they feel cumfortable, in the mean time they miss the whole point. now like i sead im not a rasta but from building with them i do get at least one point, and that is to be proude of being black and to look at things from the black prospective instead of the europian prospective that has ben drilled into our subconscious for countless years. i was looking up thing on rasta and i came across an article on christafari and even know im not dread these people just pissed me off . i know they aint folowing true rasta but that goes to show

Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: Rasta_Man_410 on October 22, 2005, 12:25:01 AM
Very good post. I myself am white, but I understand exactly where you are coming from. I was raised around the same sort of people as you talk to, and I understand that many whites do indeed change things for their benefit. Luckily I try hard to help others and not myself as much, but many people do the opposite.  [smiley=sad.gif]
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: Positive_Vibration on October 22, 2005, 01:02:06 AM
I am around many of the people you depict here on the daily, but myself am a non-African and attempt to stand humbly and positively at any/all times. I've got to say that really the only time I truly let go would be through my music...which is entirely a vechicle to educate Jah people in this time.

Anyway. Just a little perspective to the reasoning.

One love
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: Soul-Jah on October 22, 2005, 01:57:00 AM
moeskee
bredren your speaking of seeing the world through a AFRICAN (black) perspective
but statements like why cant white people be humble and your we and them mentality is a product of white supremacy , a western way of thinking
which leads to comments like  hard for me to believe that white people can respect our culture because they have no clue which is untrue just on this site there is mans them like arkI and mdub who have the utmost raspect and knowledge of AFRICAN culture people like rasta nick has given people from all over the world the opportunity to have a clue about our culture,would he have done that if he had no raspect for it?

peace and love
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: Regdan on October 22, 2005, 02:16:25 AM
Not one to make outrageous claims, but that title itself is an example of supremacy. Is it not?

I must agree with soul-jah, in that you are looking through the eyes of one single person, on a perspective of a certain culture. Thus, what you are saying is not fully correct, white people can be humble.

I myself am not an african, but I am caucasian.
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: moeskee on October 22, 2005, 02:22:08 AM
if you had a clue you would know exactly what im saying. stop using semantics and adress the subject. you missed the whole point. if i was talking to one of my people black people they would understand what im saying rasta or not. and im sorry if you dont agree with my use of english but i concider so called black and hispanic my people, sorry. and when i talk like this to the dreads on the street they seem to understand me, but its people like you who miss the point. thats my point. and you know whats ill? you will never see the point because it doesnt effect you like it effects my people. and im proud to say my people. a real rasta can relate when i say im proud to be black. just like you should be proud to be you. [smiley=wink.gif]
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: moeskee on October 22, 2005, 02:25:13 AM
it seems like people are taking what i said personal. did i strike a nerv? must be some truth in the matter
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: moeskee on October 22, 2005, 02:28:50 AM
seems like RASTA MAN got the point and thats probubly because he sees it from a similar prspectve as me seeing as thouh he was raised aroud the black rastas
[smiley=grin.gif]
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: Regdan on October 22, 2005, 02:29:36 AM
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if you had a clue you would know exactly what im saying. stop using semantics and adress the subject. you missed the whole point. if i was talking to one of my people black people they would understand what im saying rasta or not. and im sorry if you dont agree with my use of english but i concider so called black and hispanic my people, sorry. and when i talk like this to the dreads on the street they seem to understand me, but its people like you who miss the point. thats my point. and you know whats ill? you will never see the point because it doesnt effect you like it effects my people. and im proud to say my people. a real rasta can relate when i say im proud to be black. just like you should be proud to be you. [smiley=wink.gif]


I am addressing the fact that you are saying white people aren't humble. Adjusting everything to their liking, I have news. Everyone does that, period. Don't judge a whole race because of the select few.
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: Positive_Vibration on October 22, 2005, 02:36:00 AM
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I am addressing the fact that you are saying white people aren't humble. Adjusting everything to their liking, I have news. Everyone does that, period. Don't judge a whole race because of the select few.


I'd speak for yourself, idren. One must be careful of what they allow the senses to let in, but this does not mean alternation.

Rastafari is a movment of truth, and concrete truth at that. There is no acceptance or room for picking apart and welding/melding until it is appreciated. The truth can be tragic! Be not fooled by the religious systems they try to impose on you everyday.

"Don't you think they know their system is too far gone."

One love
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: moeskee on October 22, 2005, 02:37:16 AM
read my post one more time and you just might get the point.  [smiley=grin.gif] now you know im not talking about you if it doesnt pertain to you. dont use all that every white person crap to get away from the point im trying to make didnt you see me give props to RASTA MAN ? who is white? stop playing games. you know exactly what im saying [smiley=angry.gif]
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: moeskee on October 22, 2005, 02:56:51 AM
by the way. Rasta_Man_410 can i hear some of your music? [smiley=cool.gif]

Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: Soul-Jah on October 22, 2005, 03:07:14 AM
i know exactly what your saying, i just dont agree with it, im just a humble man following the example shown to me by his imperial majesty, what more do you want me to say? i leave all the judging to the king of kings seen
peace and love to the brotherhood of man
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: Lionsroar on October 22, 2005, 03:47:56 PM
true day do try to alter the way off our livin but to me u cant b rasta if ur not true to urself so the ones who think they can change sumin to fit dem is dearly mistaken,u cant call urself a rasta if u change the way of life rastas live den u are jus startin a chain dat will lead people to think the way u live is rasta. Yes i no many people on dis site not black, datz no problem but would be come a future problem is dat babylon is corruptin our way of life once again we cant have nething, but listen whites can be ras IF day live the way and not changin it to benefit dere life, u dont have to change it to benefit ur life neway u jus gonna learn mo bout wha blacks go thur and how white supremacy try and bring us down, wha is dere to change
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: Soul-Jah on October 22, 2005, 09:24:33 PM
christafari and rastafari are two totally different concepts, fiyah you could label yourself a christafarian but you would always remain a ras, just in the same way christafarians will remain shackled by christian doctrines and beliefs,history repeats itself western powers stole africans from africa, they stole african culture watering it down to suite western thinking, over four hundred years later its happening again in thease watered down doctrines of rastafari, this is white supremacy at work.to say ALL white rastafarians live this watered down livity is wrong, many stay rooted in its core beliefs, just as the same is for black christians denouncing him, sometimes people take the easy route and label a people this and that, when infact everyman is unique in is ways and spirituallity

if Haile Selassie truelly is the most high and you truelly know this in your heart of hearts, to say rastafari is limited to one race, is impossible.
all men have god (good) inside them, one man the god man (Selassie I)
is pure undilllluted goOdness, inturn ras tafari is the embodiement of the god in every man of every nation, so irrespective of anything  any man that strives to be SELASSIE I (Ras Tafari) like and follows H I S teachings is a RASTAFARIAN
peace and love
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: Soul-Jah on October 23, 2005, 12:13:22 PM
bredren Fiyah
true that justice should be meted out, those who suffered most, for the longest time need justice first, ALL RASTAFARI know this is the AFRICAN people
inturn this will lead to the liberation of all mankind, this is were many non rasta get confused they cant see how the liberation of africans will free mankind, believing instead only black africa will benifit, thus cant overstand why other nations would follow RASTAFARI
peace and love
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: fiya_man on October 23, 2005, 03:04:33 PM
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first of all let me state that i am not a rasta, but i love to build with my people. when i talk to the rasta brothers and sisters in the hood, they seem to be concerned with the preservation of black history and black culture, so i defanately relate to them. i feel the pain of our people. its becoming increasingly hard for me to believe that white people can respect our culture because they have no clue. recently there was a post on weather or not white people can be rasta. i dont know because i realy dont know the requirements, but what i can say is i dont beleave that its possable with out them altering it to fit their own purposes. instead of excepting our culture 100% or rejecting it , they seem to change it so that they feel cumfortable, in the mean time they miss the whole point. now like i sead im not a rasta but from building with them i do get at least one point, and that is to be proude of being black and to look at things from the black prospective instead of the europian prospective that has ben drilled into our subconscious for countless years. i was looking up thing on rasta and i came across an article on christafari and even know im not dread these people just pissed me off . i know they aint folowing true rasta but that goes to show




True, Euro thinking was brought here from day one! And they run the "things"{{ no man or people control God almight }}. Thats why I have such repecy for natives, and enjoy nature practices. Im not a rasta but i dont call myself that, but i do enjoy the reasoning and respect for God here and in rasta wicth in many places is hard to find. But there probly is white rastas who folow in accordence 100%, besides them not being black in a movment of black origin. The world is one but God deals on all planes, and so can all humans but evil can be implicated on all levels as well. MAbey like there is a cure to every curse and vice versa.

Truth and justice is in Rasta people, and if all people had truth and justice the world would be on the same level, but seems like money and power are priority for the ones who control most babylon things witch a many people watch and partake in everyday. Seems to me God allows only so much unil people slef destruct themselves(babylon) but they can make all the money and propaganda they want. Truth word is for knowing and feeling.
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: Regdan on October 23, 2005, 03:10:10 PM
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Blessed Love

soul-jah
 It is imperative that Truth and Justice be central in the consciousness of all Rasta people.




[bgcolor=Green]Rastafari  [/bgcolor]
[bgcolor=Yellow]Haile Selassie I  [/bgcolor]
[bgcolor=Red]Fiyah  [/bgcolor]


I agree that truth and justice should be carried out, but not just in RastafarI. Everyone that walks the Earth should do all that they can to uphold these things, and when I say everyone. I mean everyone.

Father bless.
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: Ras Alto on October 24, 2005, 10:47:43 PM
Greetings in the Ivine Name of Haile Selassie I.!

@ Moeskee
When the time has come and you stand in front of the I-reator JAH Ras TafarI Haile Selassie I. and HE asks you: "Why did you disunite people instead of following my teachings?" what will you say? It is too late to say anything. Then you will feel the Judgement.
Haile Selassie no see no skin color. It is not about black or white, it is about good or wicked. There are good and wicked in every human "race". And the ones who know the Truth will follow it and they will live inna Zion.
Want to know the origin of "races"? Check Sem, Ham and Japhet and you will see they all belong to Noah.

JAH LOVE
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: mundell on October 27, 2005, 08:41:47 PM
I guess you have your reasons for saying what you are saying,but you must understand that globaly seen many races and also people of the same colour discriminate and show no understanding for one another.
it is not a black and white thing you see.
it is this kind of thinking that causes strife.
Wake up,be wise the truth is revealing!!
as Winston Rodney sings:ANY MAN COULD BE BABYLON IN A TIME LIKE NOW.
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: kinfokedez on October 27, 2005, 08:55:26 PM
Winston Rodney is a Garveyite.....
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: jstbu14 on October 28, 2005, 06:03:55 PM
Moskee....There are elders and youth that are HIGHLY educated and happen to have white skin. Maybe just a complexion...some may have African or other dark skinned races in their family tree. We are (including yourself) a NEW generation!! We didn't endure the pain and suffering so we have to research and relate!!!!! I myself a white 25year old have done much research. DO I konw exactly what you do???Probably not, we have different environments, different teachers, different cultures and friends and family. PLEASE HUMBLE YOURSELF and don't be so uppitty!!! I call it uppitty because you seem to have alot of random thought and haven't taken the time yourself to REALIZE the big picture that our lives here intereact with all that have energy not just humans. you are looking at living beings as race like/machine like deminsions. Please open your heart to a Universe of BEAUTIFUL LIVING BEINGS....ALL of us a CURRENT NEW GENERATION...... you nor I could possible know all there is to know about anything in general....HUMBLE YOURSELF AND realize...."Until the color of a mans skin is of no more significance thatn the color of his eyes THERE IS WAR!!!" Please take a minute to re-evaluate YOUR teachings and YOUR beliefs.... I am well. I don't know everything, but I know enough to say I LIVE AND LEARN AND LOVE AND GROW!!!! ALLL LIVING BEINGS!! ONE LOVE!!! PEACE!
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: mundell on October 29, 2005, 09:02:16 PM
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Winston Rodney is a Garveyite.....



yes.....

So you say he don't know about Rastafari?

I quote the man couse he knows.....he knows,my bredda!! [smiley=laugh.gif]
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: M-Dub on October 31, 2005, 03:15:39 PM
Greetings and peace.

The statement in the subject of this topic is a stereotype. The views that you are expressing are views from your perspective, however that does not make such statements true. You state that white people alter Rasta to fit their lifestyle better? How so? How many white Rasta's have you met from each continent? I'm interested in how you can make such a statement unless you've met and reasoned with many white Rasta's across the world finding out their exact beliefs.

One

Jah bless
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: Justin_Baule on November 01, 2005, 06:33:27 PM
I think the view is changing. I'm always reminded of Malcolm X saying, "There's no place for a black man, in a white mans war."

Now its more like, "There's no place for a poor man, in a wealthy mans war."
White, Black, whatever...we are all feeling oppression due to this evil of Babylon.

The first shall be last...
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: Ash-Tree on November 01, 2005, 07:30:38 PM
yes i jb
well said.
jah love Ashley
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: Kama_Sutra on November 01, 2005, 08:59:35 PM
I think what Moeskee is trying to say is that there is a shared history amongst black people, and despite the fact that the blacks born in North America, for example, are no longer slaves, still, the history of that slavery, as well as the culture that grew out of that experience, is still very much a part of the "psyche" of black people today.  Taking it further back, the history of their pre-slave days, back in Africa, is a history that is also shared by modern day blacks, and makes it's ways into the lives of many via music, art, folklore, etc.  I think it is something that is "in the blood" of black people, meaning, not literally in the blood, but in the "psyche" via culture.  Example, songs about the "struggle" and everything, this doesn't need any explanation amongst (most) blacks.  Like I said, it's a shared history, culture, etc.  

Now, regarding the "commercialization" of this culture.... Like anything else that becomes "cool" amongst the youth, it will be exploited for financial gain.  But it ain't just whites who's doing that.  Plenty of blacks are capitalizing on it, I think more than whites.

Nothing is neccessarily wrong with that... everyone's got to figure out a way to feed their family.
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: Justin_Baule on November 01, 2005, 09:43:32 PM
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Nothing is neccessarily wrong with that... everyone's got to figure out a way to feed their family.


Very true.
But the problem is...How evil is the money, that very few can just have the selfcontrol to make money to only "feed the family". Before you know it, they are buying everything in sight.
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: rastafandawn on November 03, 2005, 02:10:07 PM
I have only just joined the Forum, and read this question about white people being humble.  I returned to the country where I was born (Wales) 11 years ago after living in London for a long time. During my time in London, I became involved with black people, some Rasta's, some not. Some wore locks, but were not Rasta's, it was just a fashion statement for them, as it seemed I (as a white woman) knew more about the Rasta religion than some of them.  One of the younger dreads I spoke to didnt even know what the Piby was.  Anyway, I met some people who didnt have locks, but I believed they were Rastas.  After all, Rasta is a way of life, a feeling in the heart, a kindness to the soul, not about whether you smoke ganja, or locks up your hair.  I dont locks my hair, I dont smoke ganja, but I do believe the same things that real, genuine Rastafarians believe in.  I have to admit that white people on the whole are a cunning race, always appearing to want to take over someone's country and someone's beliefs, and being afraid of anyone who appears to know more than they do, but this can't be applied to the white race as a whole.  If you do that, you are as guilty as the white people are when they say that black people are thieves and drug takers.  Its just not true.  I went out with a man who I believed to be a Rastafarian for a great many years.  He was (to white people) an ugly, big black man with filthy hair, and who probably had a wife and 6 kids hiding somewhere, and who had never done a days work in his life.  WRONG.  He was a kind, gentle, loving, humble, honest man who was cleaner than anyone I know, white or black.  He was beautiful in heart and mind, in soul and generosity.  I spoiled the relationship, not him, and I am sorry to this day that I did.

However, I can totally understand your views about white people, but please try and understand that there are white people around who are not impressed by their own race's habits and beliefs.  I am disgusted by the attitude some white people hold, but by the same token, I am disgusted by the attitude some black, or Asian, or Hispanic, or Turkish ....whatever, people hold.  Bob Marley was half white, but he was ALL Rasta, he was a gloriously fabulous Rasta man.

Unfortunately, what a lot of white people dont understand, they make fun of. Its only to cover their embarrassment of their ignorance.  Feel sorry for them, dont put them down.  Your own people were put down for years, for you to do the same now is to be just like those who put your people down.

At the end of our lives, JAH will know who is Rasta and it is only JAH we have to answer to.

Peace to all brothers and sisters, whatever colour you are.

[smiley=kiss.gif]
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: 2_tuff on November 04, 2005, 01:37:30 AM
we are all black somewhere in our heart jah put it there,we are all white somewhere in our heart,we are all yellow somewhere in our heart jah put them all in its up 2 the i to come 2 terms with all 3 ham shem and japheth we all have elements of good and bad take the good from each put them in 1 man only then can the i stop guessin whats wrong with everyone else 4 the answer will b given and overstanding will b yours
                              UNTIL THE COLOUR OF A MANS SKIN IS OF NO MORE SIGNIFIGANCE THAN THE COLOUR OF HIS CLOTHES THE I WILL NOT KNOW JAH (I DONT WANT EVEN EYE DISCRIMINATION) ham was cursed by jah and the book has to run its course time is near and ham will b free as the wicked will pay and do their time so ham has done their time (go tell it on the mountian set my people free) jah will send another mosses          ]
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: Truth on November 09, 2005, 08:43:02 PM
This is very similar to a contraversial topic which is close to home for me. Years ago the Irish suffered opression from the English. Our land, religion, culture, freedom, all taken from us. What annoys me is that some Irish people still show resentment towards English people for this. After all we are all people. Why should a person that is born in England right now, be persecuted for what his/her ancestors did in the past? I feel pain for what happened to my brethren in the past yet i show no resentment towards any English person for how they have suffered. If a person does something it is the responsability of the person not the entire family. Adolf Hitler was an evil person. However, I would not judge the members of his family because of it.

Everyone needs to open their minds. Be you black, white, yellow, orange, purple, blue...... It is just colour. We are all people. Born of the same descendants. It is our heritage and our life that we live day to day that makes us unique. We should not persecute others because of this. I am proud to be Irish but I will not persecute a good honest English person because of this. All African people should be proud to be African. But they should not persecute the good honest white person because of it.

I agree with many of the Rastafarian aspects of life. however I do not call myself a Rastafarian as I dont agree with all of their beliefs. If I did say I was a Rastafarian then I would be changing what a Rastafarian is and no one has the right to do that.

Please people remember one thing. Everyone is equal. If a Black man puts a White man down just because he is White then he is just as bad as the white opressors of the past and present. If every person on the planet could accept every other person on the planet then this would be the most true and beautiful thing in the history of the Earth.

We must work towards a better world where everyone is equal. That is how evil will be eradicated and good will prevail.

(please also understand that I am not saying that I am perfect and that I know all. While reading your posts and writing mine I have been constantly learning more and more about myself. I thankyou all for helping to open my mind)
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: rasjay on July 01, 2006, 06:48:42 PM
Why Cant white people be humble. I belive that my people struggle to be humble because we don't care bout nothing. White people are like they are because we live in a culture we have created which is centered around themselves. therefore they are the most immportant. i aint no sociologist but i have eyes to see what is happening. this world if you don't struggle to get ton the top of your proffession your gonna earn very little and when you earn very little people get depressed because they look over the other side of the fence and see rich people. ''WE WANT TO BE LIKE THEM'' people shout all over the world instead of being content with what they got. which is often more love in the poorer community. Im not being rude when i say this but white and blacks live in two different place in society one is rich one is poor. for what ever reason whites are higher up on scheme of earning money and blacks are generally lower than white on the dollar. pound graph. that is fact im not being rude but being honest. honesty goes along way in life.. i dont know whether im right by saying blacks are more content with what they have by that i mean the blacks living in the ghetto areas of the world. and the same goes for any race living in the ghetto areas. are more satisfied with what they have and happy living HUMBELY because they don't have the apple to eat when ya got the apple you take a bite if you like it you gonna want more this goes for whites as well and all races if you like being the top dog then you will do everything you can to be the top dog if that means exploiting people then thats what you do because your mind is focussed on being the DADDY. I hope i can have some responses on this post.
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: Freedom on July 06, 2006, 08:43:49 AM
My parents are not humble seriously, very much like the people your talking about. But I feel the sons/daughters of them have changed. But i feel more people (larger percentage) of the population has become humble due to rightousness and rebbelion from their parents. But the lower percentage of the other end of the spectrum is more babylon. Very funny that isn't it lol

Rasta in my view are rebels of society, taken the Babylon and have ripped it up and dont care if they grow dreads (an example, not the only one). Babylon want us to look good for them, if we rebel then maybe they will see truth, seen? [smiley=cool.gif]

But alot of white people are humble, i can say the same for black people and crime (which i dont believe but is the perception of a number of people). All these statements are pathetic, I feel were slipping more off course focusing on colour and other people.

'Why cant white people be jumble' - Some people may see that statement is racist because alot of white people are humble, its just the percentage you know are ass*****, Alot of people say 'black people cause most crime' which is crap! Look i believe no race can make you do anything that is bad. It depends on person! Again i think this is all a misconception. Black and white people are the same, except da shield (body) is differnt. But we are all unique, seen?

So lets drop White Race & Black Race in our discussions.
Were talking about our souls n others souls, seen?
Jah intended us to be in peace, so i think this is a solution. Not to label people  [smiley=smiley.gif].

& another thing idren i am sorry for da ass**** of my race that you know, seen? I have been stabbed in the belly by a black boy with a pen knife yes? some people after that would pretty much isolate themselves from black people but no, it drew me further in. I saw that the miniscule percentage that attacked me was not of the majourity of the black race and in the same token im sorry for the intense and abusive racism the black race may get from white people. I feel we have been tard with the same brush as them and i feel i can clear my name and others by saying sorry.

were souls on a plain of the desert, wandering which path leads to home. But eventually after trial and error we find ourselves home or somewhere alot better than home. Seen?

Jah Bless, Peace & love brudaz n sistaz  [smiley=smiley.gif]
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: moses on July 06, 2006, 07:33:10 PM
Freedom, love, u r souring into wisdom. Beautiful, keep on composing your overstanding in rhythm to JAH Guidence with Love...

Blessed Love
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: Kama_Sutra on July 06, 2006, 08:22:47 PM
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im sorry for the intense and abusive racism the black race may get from white people. I feel we have been tard with the same brush as them and i feel i can clear my name and others by saying sorry.

[smiley=smiley.gif]


Why should you be sorry for the actions of others?  That's their own karma not yours.  

Sometimes white people also get abusive racism from black people, unprovoked.  

I've been in situations like that and when racist words are thrown at me I'm expected to feel intimidated and remain silent and take it!  Why? Coz I'm not black?  Coz I'm a woman?  When I don't react in a silent, intimadated way then they get shocked - when they're the ones that started it, not me.

Why should I be expected to remain silent when someone is throwing racist comments at me?  If I remain silent it is simply my mercy upon them for which they should be grateful.  And if I don't remain silent then they should know they had it coming.  

I'm a mirror.  I will reflect whatever is put in front of me.  
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: searching_for_Zion on July 16, 2006, 08:51:21 PM
i have a question for the I.   i recently found me roots, im about every "race" ( wut a bullsh1t word) mixed together I am a mutt u could say, Im Black, German,Scottish,Irish,( white) Native American, Middle Eastern, and Medditeranean. this are the things that came to be Patrick, but i didnt choose my past i didnt chose my color and does this mean i cannot be humble, surely not. IT DOESNT MATTER WUT COLOR YOUR SKIN IS, i cannot infesize this point enough, it does not matter where u came from it matters where u are goin wut the I is going to do to prove everyone wrong or make your mark on this planet before the Almighty call you home to Mt.Zion.
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: Freedom on July 17, 2006, 11:05:14 PM
Retaliation is so easy for anyone to do... but what is it worth? You said argued with a racist... personally i would isolate myself from them. At the end of the day if they cant except others then no one will except THEM. Basically don't stoop down to a racists level.

What is the point of ME saying sorry? Well i feel embarrased of beings being absolutley pathetic. I wish to isolate myself from them by saying sorry so i dont have to endure the punishment the embarrasements get due to i feel tard and feathered with not materials but with conceptions of my shield (appearance), i mean my apology deeply. Look if racism never exsisted i would probably not have been stabbed, i am angry at racists for this.

Karma is a very funny thing seen? I throw stone in a pond and the ripples maximise throughout the whole pond. One of thoes ripples hit me, some prat caused trouble and i was one of the many to suffer to this massive misconseption. If i died well... I would have gone to Jah and given a chance to make this world equal again. Anyway, everyone is affected by any situation. Think about it, next time you run your tap for that little longer what happens in the WIDE ripples streching out to the edge. You will be humble if you considered this, seen?

Just because your a woman/man doesnt mean anything, no excuse for anyone to undermine you in any way. Everyone should have a mutual respect, everyone is the same. Divisions like: money/looks/race/sex and etc. are pathetic. I see its so sad to divide ourselves when we are all but Jahs creation. If Jah wished to divide ourselves we would have price tags/labels and etc. saying white/black/rich/poor and more pathetic labeling.

Thankyou for listening to me.

Thankyou brudaz n sistas, peace and love.
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: Black_Uhuru on September 12, 2006, 01:54:48 AM
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first of all let me state that i am not a rasta, but i love to build with my people. when i talk to the rasta brothers and sisters in the hood, they seem to be concerned with the preservation of black history and black culture, so i defanately relate to them. i feel the pain of our people. its becoming increasingly hard for me to believe that white people can respect our culture because they have no clue. recently there was a post on weather or not white people can be rasta. i dont know because i realy dont know the requirements, but what i can say is i dont beleave that its possable with out them altering it to fit their own purposes. instead of excepting our culture 100% or rejecting it , they seem to change it so that they feel cumfortable, in the mean time they miss the whole point. now like i sead im not a rasta but from building with them i do get at least one point, and that is to be proude of being black and to look at things from the black prospective instead of the europian prospective that has ben drilled into our subconscious for countless years. i was looking up thing on rasta and i came across an article on christafari and even know im not dread these people just pissed me off . i know they aint folowing true rasta but that goes to show




I personly found this article racsist and stereotypical. If I posted a thread on how "Black" people don't understand and arent humble, or said that all Blacks stole and where uneducated, I would be banned from these forums, Though I do not beleive any of these things true, it would make a great deal of poeple uncomfortable. And on a side note of "(they)" don't understandis completely messed up. Though white people at a certain time did take Blacks into slavery, it wasn't withought the help of other Africans tribe members and their own brothers who conquered them and sold them to the Europians in the begining. I have to go for now and this post may not be complete, but i will be sure to get back to my point.
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: SteveGad on September 13, 2006, 08:30:30 PM
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true day do try to alter the way off our livin but to me u cant b rasta if ur not true to urself so the ones who think they can change sumin to fit dem is dearly mistaken,u cant call urself a rasta if u change the way of life rastas live den u are jus startin a chain dat will lead people to think the way u live is rasta. Yes i no many people on dis site not black, datz no problem but would be come a future problem is dat babylon is corruptin our way of life once again we canthave nething, but listen whites can be ras IF day live the way and not changin it to benefit dere life, u dont have to change it to benefit ur life neway u jus gonna learn mo bout wha blacks go thur and how white supremacy try and bring us down, wha is dere to change


I agree. I also very much doubt that any white preson entering this site, would dream of coming in with a view to 'altering' anything to suit them, nor would they want Rastafari to be changed in any way. I hope I speak for the whites who came here, when I say they would only come to this door with a view to further their understanding of their brethren, Rastafari and the works and ways of Jah.
I for years have read with a very heavy sadness in my heart, about the oppression of the Black Man, felt the hope in Marcus Garvey's work, the sadness of his passing in a foriegn land, and the relief of his returning home for eternity.
I have read, read and read again, and I hope I have some understanding, although I will never know everything. I will never feel the pain many had to live with, in those dark days of ignorance. One of the very first things I read about Rastafari (when still a youngster) was also one of the first things I learned as a human being - love, understanding and tolerance of even the most ignorant.
There are people in the world who imagine that to subscribe to the Rasta way, is simply a matter of enjoying a smoke, having a Jamaica flag on the wall, and owning a copy of Bob Marley's 'Legend' Album. I feel sorry, and almost apologetic for this, but man will always have ignorance, and if I can further another white mans understanding of who, and what Haile Sellassie I, was, then I feel I have at least made an honest and truthful attempt to educate that man. If people ask, I tell.

As I said earlier, it is selfish for anyone to imagine they have sole rights to a way of thinking. I can't help being white, but being white does not mean I have to listen to Kylie Minogue, when I prefer Barrington Levy and I won't feel guilty as I buy tickets to see Burning Spear. That WOULD be me being untrue to myself, and if it really is about truth, then I AM being true, true to myself. I love God, and I know God understands who, and what I am, so what others think is of very little consequence to me.
Watch footage of Dr King, proudly marching through the sea of ignorance that was America half a century ago, and if you look you will see white folk by his side, with every bit as much passion for the cause, as the man himself. Nowhere have I read Martin Luther King, nor Marcus Garvey state that the white man cannot aid them in their cause, because they aren't black, an therefore not the genuine article, or somehow less commited. Garvey said "Man know theyself" and in that statement is built an entire new world, if you want it. Please don't imagine anyone would come in here and set up their own version of Rasta in it, because it wouldn't happen - nor would it be allowed to.
The small step from reading these pages, to actually signing up, was a very big thing for me. I may well know more about Black history than some black men, but it simply means I read more than some. I chose to study history, black and white, partly because of curiousity, partly from guilt of being a descendant of men who treated others with such contempt, and partly to try to understand why these things happen. Garvey also told that if the black man stopped saying the world wasn't allowing him to grow, and realised that in him is a supreme power, then there would be a whole new race of people within 24 hours. In some small way, that is what I have read, in the hour or so since I joined this site. People arguing who is and who isn't allowed to be a Rasta, who is genuine, and I even saw someone who wrote "Why would a white man study the ways of the rasta? What's in it for him? Nothing!" I hope thats not the theme here.
For a moment, I almost wished I hadn't joined up, but I saw Rasta Nick's avatar depicts a black and a White hand in unity. I had hoped for too much in imagining it would be true here. If we can't even display unity on an Internet page, and especially one where the reason for being here is so well defined, then how long will it be before worldwide unity is a reality?
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: joanna on September 13, 2006, 08:52:15 PM
Greetings, brother Steve,
welcome!
not much more i can add to that! intelligent reasoning.......

bless, Jo xx
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: Muslim on September 18, 2006, 11:34:54 PM
Ive seen people talk about race and culture a lot. I remeber seeing a few posts how white people cant be Rasta or have dreads. Rather a white man can be Rasta is totaly up to you guys. But when you talk about Black People and Culture I feel I have a right to intervene. Dreadlocks and other things related to Rasta and other Black power movements are also used by many Sufi orders in Africa. In those Sufi orders there is no debate on weather a white man can be a member. So i would just like to remind you that in Africa and Europe there are many different Cultures not just "White" and "Black"
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: manmitchera on October 02, 2006, 07:38:25 PM
u cant blame white ppl, but u can blame individual white ppl.
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: Humble_yet_strong on October 03, 2006, 11:28:34 AM
Greetings, the only response i an i can have to such posts is a dissapointed one.  How can we as human race, excel and live righteous, when these sort of questions are asked without thought to the answer?  White people as I an I see them are babylon, but not the average white man.  Governments, as i man have said many times are responsible, but i an i wont go into too much detail.  IN relation to black history, i an i feel that in schools OUR children should be taught ALL history, not just black or white or in between.  But the babylon government corrupts.  Moeskee, do not worry for preserving history, stay righteous, and teach truth without taintedness to the youth.  They will preserve history, they will proceed us, so it seems wise to plant good seeds in their hearts.  White people and Rasta.....  I accept what the I is saying, but the reason they have no clue, is they are raised in the busom of babylon.  It is the Jah blessed work to undo this, although some are too molded from the deceit of babylon.  The only way a white man can truely be Rastafari, is by completely accepting H.I.M, and living Rasta.  That is to say before he claims Rasta, he is eating Ital, leads a humble and self sufficient life etc, he hasnt just grown dreads and smokes weed.  Rastafari isnt Rasta if it is altered, I man know people who think they are Rasta, but it has to be the whole package not just the most favourable parts of Rasta livity.  People change boundaries to suit them because they are so used to living in a moldable world, it is human nature to want to fit in, we are social creatures.  Sometimes people choose to fit to a group without knowing the implications of what they are doing, i an i beleive this happens with Rastafari.  The free living, One Love attitude appeals to everyone as it is where we all are supposed to be and part of what we once where.  But the end result is that ALL people can be humble, ALL people can be A$$holes, every human being is capable of the same good and evil deeds as the last one, but it is up to us to make the difference.  DO not judge a race because of a mere few arrogant people, as I man have met black people who most certainly not humble.  Most black people I man know sell drugs, except for a few, yet I an I know not all black people are drug dealers.  I can only speak for I, but I know I speak for ALL when I an I say, be careful of the I's posts.  Prejudice, Racism, and Equality, these words conjure images, do they not?  Now think of Justice, Race, and Iquality the connotations they bring are alot more pleasent.  Justice for all,  One Race,  and Iquality.  We cannot acheive the higher states of righteousness when we say things ignorant of human nature,  I an I know Moeskee the I isnt Rasta, but the I is educated and follows Rasta at least, does the I not see?  One LOve
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: Igor on October 03, 2006, 12:02:49 PM
 every human being is capable of the same good and evil deeds as the last one
-Amen Humble!

but jawell , I just can't resist this (bad Igor!)

http://www.sizesurvey.com/result.html
"Surprisingly, it would appear from Figure 5, that contrary to popular myth, Black males have shorter erect lengths than their Caucasian counterparts"
"The average flaccid length among Blacks however was 93.8mm (3.7") compared to 87.7mm (3.4") for Caucasians, which may be responsible for the impression that Black men have greater erect dimensions."


*whistle*
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: RasLuke on October 03, 2006, 12:02:50 PM
Greetings,

The humbleness of a person is not reflective of a person's skin colour, it is more so to do with the persons thoughts and actions, an dealings within a righteous frame of mind. Colour of a man or woman skin is irrevelant to there humbleness, it mis there actions that affect this.

JAH Guide and Protector
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: manmitchera on October 03, 2006, 04:50:01 PM
and its not jus white ppl that cant b humble, every colour, race has ppl like that.
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: Muslim on October 03, 2006, 08:25:48 PM
I agree, Someone shouldent be judged by his race,(there is no race but the Human race) but by his actoins.
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble? id really lik
Post by: bill_t_1984 on October 06, 2006, 08:07:06 PM
okay im caucasian not even a rasta im interested but im also interested in islam and i have practiced buddism my uncle is east indian raised in africa and ive know some great whites, blacks, indians, and natives and so on.  i started with whites cause no offence your original article sounded really racist against whites. i grew up in rent geared to income its kind of the candian version of the projects not nearly as bad but hey. where i used to work there was this one girl i got along with great she was half and half but just a great girl had a dumb ass boyfriend who was "tiefin her money" but i lent her lunch money, there was also a african american he said insisted that white people made the dinosaur bones and planted them so that there descedents could make all the money off of movies like jurasic park. i feel incredibly embaressed by this as a canadian because of what it says about our education system but thats another rant. he also insisted when he knew i had money and refused to by him lunch that i was racist and that proved it. is that one of your people who is so humble? saying that white people cant truly get what this way of living is about does that mean black and i say black cause i mean jamaicans, africans all that like when you say white im sure you mean all scotish, irish, english, ect.  are incapable of understanding christianity or judasim?
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: Ras_Nevoe on July 06, 2007, 07:01:40 AM
Nuff Truths and Rights in this thread, just thought I'd bring it back to the top.

InI wish I was here when this reasoning first took place.


I ask ALL the I's to read CAREFFULLY/THOUGHTFULLY, from the beginning, as much as the I's can.




Ras Nevoe
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: NyaInIJahLove on July 06, 2007, 09:55:42 AM
Bless up Idren,
                       I read it all, some truthical hearts there fe sure.
Some stuff really echoed my sentiments but this was the one I'll quote coz it explains why I took off for a few days ,yes I know my life obviously isn't too full right now, with work and such...but I feel jah guide I here, so here I am

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.I feel were slipping more off course focusing on colour and other people.

Overall, I know it has to be dealt with...but we have gone past the point of victimhood, to be able to reason like this, as Rasta and friend of Rasta and those attracted to the Path who may find that they are Rasta....To embrace RastaRarI one MUST BE a counter-racist...there is no room for racism with in Rasta....only the humility to admit the vices one struggles with personally, and the honesty to admit the things that hurt so....and the openess to transcend and grow into the liberated being He wants us to become...of course I do not mean to be a reductionist....to reduce things to a single or small amount of focus....but to add to the overstanding...
Having said that.....I would like to attempt to answer the initial question....
I think that the lack of humility is a cover-up, it is an attempt to look important because of ones true feelings of being terrified of ones own insignificance.....remember when people who are part of a system of power over and control with no respect for others "less-powerful", both parties buy into the lie that some are more powerful than others, it is a system of indoctrination that is perpetuated by parents who feel intimidated by "something bigger and more powerful than them", it is enacted beautifully in many (most) schools...It is created and maintained by people who do not feel and who have not experienced the power and Love of Jah Within..Ones judge Christianity harshly, I myself have been guilt of this, but I feel that true Christianity has very rarely been practised by the ones claiming to practise it.....I believe it is a path as valid as Any, However Rasta is definitely a progression from that and addresses so many of the real issues that the so-called Christian Churches have been white-washing and trying to cover-up for so long.......So much diversity but still the truth remains the truth whatever angle yah look at it from.......please, lets stop the projections, and deal with whats real and personal, political, and spiritual human being to human being......
Our Creator gives us equal rights
.Ask and ye shall receive....that rule is for ALL!!!!
So lets not perpetuate this illusion of victimhood, other that addressing the very real reality of corporate and political crime that continues to usurp the rights of so many, creating war and environmental destruction that threatens our very survival ....destroying culture, and replacing it with soul-less capitalism,or other forms of soul-destroying enforced control. We can work together to inform ourselves and each other and together we can topple the walls of Babylon with the way more powerful Love and livity of Jah.
Stronger together!!!!!
sorry for the rant...I really need to "get a life", I used to have one, now I am mommy to so many., one who is under two...this is one of my few outlets, without which a am afraid i could fall sway to hopelessness and feelings of ailienation.....
But even to thinK one is alone is a fallacy.....the spelling gives Jah away as to the truth AL(L)ONE!!!!
One AIm, One Planet, One Destiny
One Love
Nyah
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: Human on July 06, 2007, 12:28:46 PM
"The only difference between man is good or evil, the rest is illusion"

My "humble" belief.
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: tonyalynnbarrz on February 17, 2008, 04:27:07 AM
Quote from: moeskee link=topic=2164. msg38322#msg38322 date=1129938392
first of all let me state that i am not a rasta, but i love to build with my people.  when i talk to the rasta brothers and sisters in the hood, they seem to be concerned with the preservation of black history and black culture, so i defanately relate to them.  i feel the pain of our people.  its becoming increasingly hard for me to believe that white people can respect our culture because they have no clue.  recently there was a post on weather or not white people can be rasta.  i dont know because i realy dont know the requirements, but what i can say is i dont beleave that its possable with out them altering it to fit their own purposes.  instead of excepting our culture 100% or rejecting it , they seem to change it so that they feel cumfortable, in the mean time they miss the whole point.  now like i sead im not a rasta but from building with them i do get at least one point, and that is to be proude of being black and to look at things from the black prospective instead of the europian prospective that has ben drilled into our subconscious for countless years.  i was looking up thing on rasta and i came across an article on christafari and even know im not dread these people just pissed me off .  i know they aint folowing true rasta but that goes to show


I undertand how you feel.  Since becoming a Rasta (I'm very new) I am learning peace with the white race.  I had a lot of built up hatred for their ways.  I still understand you.

Blessings
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: natty threads on February 17, 2008, 04:40:49 PM
I have a plan!

Everyone who is afraid of someone's skin color or who thinks that another person doesn't like him or her because of skin color should- recognizing that there are places not as safe as here in Alaska- approach the misunderstood and do a kindness.

Help someone carry groceries maybe, or let someone merge ahead of you on the highway, or give up a parking spot.

Smile at children of other races so they get imprinted with a positive love.

Catch someone's dog if it gets off its leash, pick up and hand back with a smile what someone drops, make eye contact and smile when shopping. Be nice to those poor people working in overseas call centers.

God bless.
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: NegusNegustiality on February 18, 2008, 12:05:12 PM
Yes Natty,
As Tony Rebel's new tune says "Yuh just cyaan go round good!

Bless up
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: surfmon_I on February 19, 2008, 10:48:37 PM
Yes I !, and there IS so much good to go round.
Bless up Iver more
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: boz :) on February 20, 2008, 06:11:52 PM
I like the way monksee paints all whites with the same brush, I is white and I consider Iself to be humble.    To me skin colour doesn't matter, forgive I if this appears racist but the way I see is InI all originally had the same colour skin but Africa obviously gets more sun than Europe so an African's skin would be darker  :)

InI are people not colours. 

Bless
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: natty threads on February 20, 2008, 06:28:42 PM
DC Talk, Colored People

[1, 1, 1, 1... 2, 2, 2, 2... 3, 3, 3, 3... 4, 4, 4, 4]

Pardon me, your epidermis is showing, sir
I couldn't help but note your shade of melanin
I tip my hat to the colorful arrangement
Cause I see the beauty in the tones of our skin

We've gotta come together
And thank the maker of us all

(chorus)
We're colored people, and we live in a tainted place
We're colored people, and they call us the human race
We've got a history so full of mistakes
And we are colored people who depend on a holy grace

[1, 1, 1, 1... 2, 2, 2, 2... 3, 3, 3, 3... 4, 4, 4, 4]

A piece of canvas is only the beginning for
It takes on character with every loving stroke
This thing of beauty is the passion of an artist's heart
By God's design, we are a skin kaleidoscope

We've gotta come together,
Aren't we all human after all?

(repeat chorus)

Ignorance has wronged some races
And vengeance is the Lord's
If we aspire to share this space
Repentance is the cure

[1, 1, 1, 1... 2, 2, 2, 2... 3, 3, 3, 3... 4, 4, 4, 4]

Well, just a day in the shoes of a color blind man
Should make it easy for you to see
That these diverse tones do more than cover our bones
As a part of our anatomy

(repeat chorus)

We're colored people, and they call us the human race
[oh, colored people]
We're colored people, and we all gotta share this space
[yeah we've got to come together somehow]
We're colored people, and we live in a tainted world
[red and yellow, black and white]
We're colored people, every man, woman, boy, and girl
[colored people, colored people, colored people, colored people, yeah]

Yardbirds- You're A Better Man Than I Lyrics
(B. Hugg / M. Hugg)

Can you judge a man,
By the way he wears his hair?
Can you read his mind,
By the clothes that he wears?
Can you see a bad man,
By the pattern on his tie?

Well then, Mr, you're a better man than I,
Yeah, Mr, you're a better man than I,
Oh, Mr, you're a better man than I,
Yeah, Mr, you're a better man than I.

Could you tell a wise man
By the way he speaks or spells?
Is this more important
Than the stories that he tells?
And call a man a fool
If for wealth he doesn't strive?

Well then, Mr, you're a better man than I,
Yeah, Mr, you're a better man than I,
Oh, Mr, you're a better man than I,
Yeah, Mr, you're a better man than I.

Can you condemn a man,
If your faith he doesn't hold?
Say the colour of his skin,
Is the colour of his soul?
Could you say that men,
For king and country all must die?

Well, Mr, you're a better man than I,
Yeah, Mr, you're a better man than I,
Oh, Mr, you're a better man than I,
Yeah, Mr, you're a better man than I.



God bless.
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: prophet777 on February 20, 2008, 10:22:06 PM
All I got to say about this is : Walk a mile in I shoes...then we can talk.

Go and paint yourselves black (makeup) and try and be such in this white controlled world. Do it in a way that people would actually believe you are black. Then, let us discuss it.

Now after that go to a black land (Africa or wherever else) as a white, and see if you get the same treatment.

Walk a mile in I shoes and you would be "crazy" too. It is easy for those who do not live it to make it seem harmless and equal but, that is not reality. Unless you are living it - every single day - you ain't got nothing to say.

Not all "others" are bad but, there is is a big, very big difference when you are black.

Yes, there are "bad" black people too but, for a different reason. Figure it out. Get to know the truth.

prophet7
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: natty threads on February 20, 2008, 11:13:10 PM
I lived in the only white household in a black neighborhood for a couple of years.

My neighbors were all civil,
but I've been detained by the police any number of times for "walking while white."
This happens in Hispanic neighborhoods as well as black neighborhoods.

I've been beat up for being white.

I know it isn't the same as being black. DOH!

My point would be that "vengeance is the Lord's" and "repentance is the cure."

If you hate me because I'm white it doesn't hurt me.

If you hate me for any reason it hurts you.

And I'll still love you, Brother.

God bless.
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: rootsridge on February 21, 2008, 08:51:28 PM
the fact is,

most  are so racially mixed then how can u define who is "100%"black/white!

we all came from africa, so why judge others from Africa?
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: natty threads on February 21, 2008, 11:04:27 PM
I guess it wasn't on this thread, but someone posted that we all bleed red and we all cry salty tears.

God bless.
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: Wahine on February 22, 2008, 05:05:45 AM
My "black" friend put it this way to me...
If we were walking down the road together and someone chopped both of us we would be the same colour underneath.
I feel blessed to live in a place where colour doesn't play such a huge part of our lives. I feel humbled by the history lessons and advice given to me by my "coloured" friends whether here in New Zealand or overseas. So yes some of us can be humble. And we can also learn and take on board what is presented to us.
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: prophet777 on March 03, 2008, 08:51:51 PM
To I first Idren that replied to this, I last post on this subject, Hispanics have African blood. Just like many now so-called "europeans, asians, americans, etc.,etc.,. I am not talking about you if you have "it" (the ORIGINAL) in you. As a matter of fact, if you did have, you would not be calling yourself "white." I am talking about those faded out peoples that do not even know themselves. At the same time, I know that they are some that do know themselves, regardless of their color.

If you overstand the top i.e., the roots of I discussion then your reply has indeed been in vain.....

As to the other replies.........figure it out.

prophet7
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: Nepsis on March 04, 2008, 04:43:33 PM
I am not talking about you if you have "it" (the ORIGINAL) in you. As a matter of fact, if you did have, you would not be calling yourself "white." I am talking about those faded out peoples that do not even know themselves. At the same time, I know that they are some that do know themselves, regardless of their color.

prophet7
From where I am, this seems to be the essence of why a constant waterfall of questions, and statements arise in these forums and serve injustice and ignorance.  If some can stop chasing ghosts for a moment and actually look at themself and see directly and simply, without the layers of labels provided to them like bait on a hook from the outside, then it is possible for the great white illusion to disappear.  Melanin is not going away, no matter how many generations of selective breeding attempts to remove it from the genepool.  Yet, we are barraged by the fantasy so much, many of us simply and casually participate in it without question.  And as usual, some amount of imagination will be necessary for the continuation of collective white identity.  It doesnt have any positive effect.  If you are asking for others to recognize you for being white, then your asking for them to depart from the truth, or to reinforce a fantasy.  How can this serve any good?  The incarnate son of God provided the solution for our self illusions:  hate thy mother, father, wife, children, brothers, sisters and along with that hate your own life.  Then we are opened to true illumination of Christ.  As the Psalmist teaches, only One can wash us and make us whiter than snow, and this has absolutely nothing to do with the flesh, but rather the heart.

Nude (by Radiohead) (http://youtube.com/watch?v=5ZT_nrrpe8c)
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Don't get any big ideas
they're not gonna happen
You paint yourself white
and feel up with noise
but there'll be something missing

Now that you've found it, it's gone
Now that you feel it, you don't
You've gone off the rails

So don't get any big ideas
they're not going to happen
You'll go to hell for what your dirty mind is thinking
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Just in case I am not understood, it is not my intent for anyone to feel negative about their skin tone or earthly lineage.  I dont think feeling one way or the other about it is a good use of soul power.  My point is that we buy and sell false personality.  This potentially affects every aspect of our life and racism is a blatant example, possibly the most effective and pervasive example, of this gross spiritual problem.  This spiritual problem, which all are responsible for, has a muliplier effect in the context of human relations.  This is behind the false glory of of Babylon - the perpetuation of fantasy/half truth/truth without heights/misordering of the higher and lower.  All Glory and Praise to the 4th person in the fire Who's energy is grace and dew.

I am the chief of sinners.
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: NyaInIJahLove on March 05, 2008, 12:40:09 AM
Hear, Hear my bruddas!
all bloodline of earthlings hail from the Mother/Fatherland and so who can say "white'?
the DNA remains the same, even so-called "white' science recognizes and verifies our origin
let all ignorant "whiteism" fall away as the illusion it really is...
One Source, One Origin, which is Kushlands! Ithiopia!
I have heard that when Idren return to Ethiopia the locals say to EVERYONE "welcome home!",
THEY KNOW THE TRUTH ALREADY, dem nah need no "science" to tell dem what they already know.....
Iriginal people, Iriginal Mudda/Fadda Land!!!!!
Raspect
Nyah
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: kurdish on June 06, 2008, 03:11:54 PM
It is not up to i to be critical of what fellow brothers and sisters say but have we not had enough on this forum of black and white arguments.. yes most of the white people are not humble but instead of debating why should we not show them the way and preach the word?
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: natty threads on June 17, 2008, 12:16:16 PM
It is not up to i to be critical of what fellow brothers and sisters say but have we not had enough on this forum of black and white arguments.. yes most of the white people are not humble but instead of debating why should we not show them the way and preach the word?

I'm not disagreeing, but I would point out that I haven't met many humble BLACK people either.

I would say that, in general, few people are humble.
And yes, we should show them the way and preach the word, but just in saying that we are saying that we are somehow better than the people who we judge to not be humble which then neutralizes our own humility.

PARALYSIS BY ANALYSIS.

Bless up!
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: rastaman716 on January 03, 2013, 02:26:29 AM
"I don't stand for the black man's side, I don't stand for the white man's side, I stand for God's side."
-Bob Marley.
it doesnt matter if you are black or white, or anything for that matter. you don't become rasta, you're born rasta, you just gotta find Jah in you. he's in all of us
Title: Re: why cant white people be humble?
Post by: Ramon on April 01, 2013, 12:52:54 AM
Skin colour is just.. just a skin colour.

Bob already said it;

"I don't stand for the black man's side, I don't stand for the white man's side, I stand for God's side."