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Title: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: EmpressGong on February 01, 2006, 05:23:16 PM
Blessed Love,
In an attempt to shed some Light for those who are still unable to digest the term "Black Supremacy" and for those who say that InI should say Non-White Supremacy or OneNonWhiteLove, here is a thread from another board. If this dont clear it up den I dunno what will! But I will just say that ACCEPTANCE is the key to Innerstanding.


From: JahIseek  (Original Message) Sent: 31/01/2006 14:28
Bless-ed Love to All Is,

Many fight IandI down for the TRUTH of Black Supremacy. Here and in more reasonings to come I will try show ones and ones where this I-cept comes forth from… Not just the FACT that AFRIKA is the ORIGIN of FIRST MON AND WOMBMON, and the FACT that all sciences, mathmatics, language, writing etc all BEGAN in AFRIKA but that even down to the ATOM – all is BLACKNESS…

Please bear with I.. I real eyes this post is LONG but I want ones to read and overstand that even when one reaches out to education and, science in particular, it still brings one FORWARD to RASTAFARI and the BLACKNESS of CREATION.


Excerpts from THE MEANING OF BLACKNESS
By: IM Nur


BLACKNESS IN SCIENCE

“Truth is manifested all around us. We simply need to take notice and marvel at its simplicity.” IM Nur


Some I-cepts of Nature that Reveal some TRUTH
The BLACKNESS of CREATOR and CREATION…

BLACK BODIES:

A Scientific Phenomenon referred to as “theoretical black body” **they say THEORETICAL to hide the TRUTH within**

Defined as: An ideal surface or body that can absorb completely all the radiation striking it.

Gustav Kirchhoff (1824-1887) scientist who performed groundbreaking experiments into high-energy radiation

He was the FIRST in “modern” era to investigate and RE-establish that:

“ALL BLACK SURFACES tended to absorb RADIANT ENERGY that fell on it”

He further reasoned from experimental results that:

“any substance that absorbs light or radiation perfectly must also be able to emit it perfectly, and thus constitute the PERFECT radiator”

**Real eyes one has to go FORWARD far to find these truths as the illuminati try to keep these TRUTHS WELL HIDDEN**

BLACK NOISE:

First of all… lets define “noise” in scientific terms

Noise: A disturbance or a fluctuation in sound waves, or any other waveform, whether mechanical or radiant in nature.

There are TWO extremes of “Noise”. White noise and Black noise.

White noise is defined as: Any sound or other wave pattern whose internal changes are totally uncorrelated; that is, when every bit of information about the changes in the wave is thoroughly random and disjointed; when the message or relationship between subsequent parts of the wave have no relationship.

An example: ‘snow’ on your tell-lie-vision. There is no coherent message contained in it, no viewable picture or any recognizable sound. It conveys no intelligent message to us

Black noise is defined as: A sound wave or pattern whose information is absolutely correlated, that is, when sounds make clear and perfect sense; when every part of a message is understandable to the receiver

Black noise is the condition when one can readily distinguish the message (or other information) carried forth between a sender and a receiver.

An example: when astronomers scan space for signs of extraterrestrial life they program their computers to intercept the background noise coming in from different regions of space. As they analyze and compare all of this background noise, what they are actually trying to determine is whether it is highly random noise (white noise) or highly correlated noise (black noise); in other words, whether it is white noise or black intelligence.

A more common example is when we simply talk to one another. Or when we express ourselves through music. Consider the communication that takes place between Afrikan drummers and dancers; where the power of the drum to ‘talk’ is merely another expression of black noise. This is why slave masters, after learning the power of the drum to convey coherent messages made them illegal for slaves to possess.

**This makes I think of THE NYAHBINGHI DRUM – POWAHFULL BLACK NOISE! SELAH!**

BLACK LIGHT:

Light is defined as: Any form of radiant energy (in a scientific sense)

This definition not only includes the light we see with our eyes, but also the many forms of radiation our eyes cannot detect. It includes all radiant energy, that is, energy that spans the entire electromagnetic spectrum.

Our vision is limited to “visible light” (radiant energy range between infrared and ultraviolet). This affords us the capacity to see those frequencies of radiant energy we call colours. It also selectively filters out the harmful rays, while allowing “visible light’ rays to pass through.

Yet another natural protection is that most of the earths population has energy absorbing pigments in their eyes and skin. These pigments of melanin in the eye are ideally designed to trap most of the higher energy rays that inadvertently enter it.

**I have green eyes… and when I go to the beach (especially white sandy beaches) I cannot even open my eyes… they start watering like crazy due to the REFLECTION of the suns rays and the lack of these melanin pigments in I eyes which is I personal way of sighting TRUTH in what this book is speaking of**
White light results when one combines all the colors in the visible light portion of the Electromagnetic(EM) spectrum.

Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: EmpressGong on February 01, 2006, 05:25:51 PM
Black light does not represent a part of the EM spectrum, like white light – IT REPRESENTS THE ENTIRE EM SPECTRUM. This means that black light is the absolute sum of all forms of matter and all forms of radiant energy in the universe.

**As this book is highly detailed and gives SO MUCH information I cannot type it all – therefore I am paraphrasing – So do get the book for the I self – there is NUFF valuable information and insight within it**


Black Supremacy is NOT white supremacy.. Black supremacy expresses the BLACKNESS of CREATION - THE BLACKNESS of the CREATOR and how all comes from Black.

There is so much more and I will do I best to bring forth more reasonings for IandI to KNOW the TRUTH and not beLIEve any more of the lies of his-story.

GIVE thanks for listening and I look forward to any and all reasonings…

I WILL FORIVAH KEEP THE FIYAHs OF TRUTH BLAZIN…

ISES IVERMORE TO THE MOST HIGH
HAILE SELASSIE Ist
JAH RAS TAFARI!

SELAH!

Sis Jahseekah



Note that the ** means the Sistren JahIseek's comments.


From: Poeticleah Sent: 31/01/2006 15:25
Let HIM be praised.

Setting aside dramatic, emotional reactions to such wordsound will be blessed when trying to ingest this knowledge.

Prayerfully those truly willing to Iverstand the science of nature and creation will be willing to set all ego knee-jerk reactions aside and just let the Irits lead in whichever discussion comes to light.

Internet discussions have proven that many, many under the "rasta movement" banner are not willing nor ready to deal with such mindthought as blackness and therefore relegate such discussion to superficiality of "we are all one under 'jah' ", or color doesn't and shouldn't matter know that we are 'rasta'.

Such scholarship is worthy of the acknowledge that the Icepts of Blackness and Black Supremacy can never be equated with "Superiority"... one and ones have missed the point, completely. Blackness and Black Supremacy is an Icept which just simply IS... Same way.. the I AM simply IS...

Give thanks JahIseek, it is a good cause for a sistren such as yourself who happens to be white and who loves HIM and works for increased Iverstanding amongst those who classify themselves as white. There are very few others like yourself who are participating in such a thing.

Ites!

From: rootsgal Sent: 01/02/2006 01:11
Sistren,
Sincerest thanks for the I's reasoning on this subject.  I have seen much posted on this board relating to the Icept of Black Supremacy, but truthfully I did not overstand.  I have been meditating to come to overstanding because I could feel the truth in the wordsound....but still InI knew I was missing something.  So give thanks to the sistren for showing me that Black Supremacy is not at all related to white superiority.  As a brown sistren, I was having trouble separating the notion of "Supremacy" from the white facist lies of babylon......but now I sight Black Supremacy is simply a statement of the Truth of Black Creation.  Blackness is the core, it is the fundamental and the Universe.  Give thanks and praises to the Most High, BLACK King of Creation, Haile Selassie I.  Selah!  

Blessed,
Sistren Kavi


From: JahIseek Sent: 01/02/2006 09:04
ISES!

Give thanks for the ILLAH reasonings. Yes Empress Leah.. ALL HONOUR AND GLORY TO H.I.M. SELAH!

Quoted from Sistah Kavi above:

"I sight Black Supremacy is simply a statement of the Truth of Black Creation.  Blackness is the core, it is the fundamental and the Universe."

SELAH AND SELAH! I-loved Sistren, this is SO WELL SAID... GIVE THANKS for this wordsound.. BRINGS JOY to I heart!

FORIVAH GIVING THANKS AND PRAIZES TO THE MOST HIGH
IANDI BLACK GOD AND KING
HAILE SELASSIE Ist
JAH RAS TAFARI

MORE LOVE!
Sis Jahseekah



Now, does this help? InI intend to get this book for sure.

EmpressGong
Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: Ras Saadon on February 01, 2006, 06:19:47 PM
InI never had a problem with the concept but also never really overstood it, but now its all clear, Ises to you, JahIseek and Jah for bringing this Truth forward and blazing the Fiyah, seen!
Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: Positive_Vibration on February 01, 2006, 09:36:21 PM
A relevant lyric...

Oh gash original man
He was black
He was black
He was an African carbon
Science will show that
And prove that over and over ra again
Jah see and know
We tell them
Honor your fathers that your days may be long
Original black man
We were here from foundation of time
We will remain until the end
Jah see and know

Don’t listen the propaganda
Propaganda
Propaganda news media
Propaganda

Hear hear wha
Back is absolution of all light and color
So hear me little systa
In the earth and in the sky are
The cycles of your womb
See your self precious once again
We are hurt for the hurt of
The daughters of our people
She and her tears could find no comforter
Our hands are again strong
We will be there for our daughters
We will be there
Jah see and know


Much raspect for forwarding along the article

Bless
Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: Triniman on February 02, 2006, 02:51:34 AM
even if this dose not make sence, i do not belive in one supirior race
Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: Oskar on February 02, 2006, 09:48:54 AM
Talking about blackness in science I come to think about the phenomenon of the black hole. A black hole is a star that has collapsed in on itself and the gravitational pull become so great that not even light can escape from its clutches. How does that fit the concept?

Regarding the expression 'black light', according to my limited understanding and what I can find, it is used for certain UV wavelengths. Where in science is it stated that black light represents the entire electromagnetic spectrum?
Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: Elect on February 07, 2006, 06:15:42 PM
you won't find I arguing about everything coming from Blackness and the color of original people's skin...but you still missin the point..."onenonwhitelove"...what the hell is that?...why can't white be included in love...why does love need a color...so the universe is black, and atoms are black and the day starts and ends black...does that mean black people are supreme to white people?...no...there is no superior race as race is a babylon conception...the I's try to build a house wit babylon tools, "race" and "supremacy"...the devil can't enter my gates and i nah build my house wit him tools...I never fight against the greatness of Black people and our history and such, but i don't believe that makes us higher to the rest of society...all man is created equal...black is the presence of all light, white is the absence of light...them is counterparts...cant have one without other, just like good and bad...everything is duality...some I's only show love and respect for whites that say "Black is good, white is bad" and are ashamed of their history and culture.....they want the white I's to look outside themselves for Jah...Jah is in the white just as He is the black...dem shouldn't have to look to Blackness for Jah just as the Black man shouldn't have to look to Whiteness for Jah...everyman has the right to see Jah within themself...that is my issue...so some bent on proving the point that color does matter, and the fact is that it only matters if you want it to...i break bread with my brethren that show respect, don't care if them white black indian arab, muslim christian, rasta hindu...and them don't have to tell me how great Black is for me to show respect...i know that for Iself and don't need their validation of my culture and heritage to show love...

y'all always talkin bout fire...what's the hottest part of the flame...the white...where does that fit?...

Blessed Guidance
Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: Elect on February 07, 2006, 06:17:26 PM
you won't find I arguing about everything coming from Blackness and the color of original people's skin...but you still missin the point..."onenonwhitelove"...what the hell is that?...why can't white be included in love...why does love need a color...so the universe is black, and atoms are black and the day starts and ends black...does that mean black people are supreme to white people?...no...there is no superior race as race is a babylon conception...the I's try to build a house wit babylon tools, "race" and "supremacy"...the devil can't enter my gates and i nah build my house wit him tools...I never fight against the greatness of Black people and our history and such, but i don't believe that makes us higher to the rest of society...all man is created equal...black is the presence of all light, white is the absence of light...them is counterparts...cant have one without other, just like good and bad...everything is duality...some I's only show love and respect for whites that say "Black is good, white is bad" and are ashamed of their history and culture.....they want the white I's to look outside themselves for Jah...Jah is in the white just as He is the black...dem shouldn't have to look to Blackness for Jah just as the Black man shouldn't have to look to Whiteness for Jah...everyman has the right to see Jah within themself...that is my issue...so some bent on proving the point that color does matter, and the fact is that it only matters if you want it to...i break bread with my brethren that show respect, don't care if them white black indian arab, muslim christian, rasta hindu...and them don't have to tell me how great Black is for me to show respect...i know that for Iself and don't need their validation of my culture and heritage to show love...

y'all always talkin bout fire...what's the hottest part of the flame...the white...where does that fit?...

Blessed Guidance
Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: Soul-Jah on February 07, 2006, 11:49:44 PM
Jah is in the white just as He is the black...dem shouldn't have to look to Blackness for Jah just as the Black man shouldn't have to look to Whiteness for Jah...everyman has the right to see Jah within themself...

Bredren ELECT great reasoning idren much raspect for that this is true black noise that is it makes clear and perfect sense

Blessed love
Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: rasta_dattha on February 08, 2006, 05:18:18 PM
Quote
Black light does not represent a part of the EM spectrum, like white light – IT REPRESENTS THE ENTIRE EM SPECTRUM. This means that black light is the absolute sum of all forms of matter and all forms of radiant energy in the universe.
*


Black Supremacy is NOT white supremacy.. Black supremacy expresses the BLACKNESS of CREATION - THE BLACKNESS of the CREATOR and how all comes from Black.

.


I WILL FORIVAH KEEP THE FIYAHs OF TRUTH BLAZIN…

EmpressGong, nuff respect for your reasoning. It is amazing and funny to read what those so called intellectuals are posting. Now we have white experts and others defining what 'BLACK' is. It makes me wanna [smiley=cry.gif] , or maybe [smiley=laugh.gif].   People, white is what it is,just plain old white, just face the fact. What is all the fuss about? tell me about "white civilization",since the I them are talking about balance. I sense a lot of arrogancy, when the I them are talking about any thing pertaining to the African race. Black(Africa), is also what it is. It is the cradle of civilization, the birth place of all human. It is the place where our JAH loved to be. Our brilliant scholar the Honorable Marcus Garvey says" When talking about our race, one should always be proud, 'God made us in His own image,and He had some purpose when He thus created us,then why should we seek to destroy that identity? [smiley=huh.gif]. It is a noble man who will lay down his life for his country. "Don't under-rate either the intentions or strength of your enemy". Our intentions have never been "REVENGE', but most "WHITE PEOPLE ",show a guilt complex towards organized Africans. We are too busy building for ourselves to waste time trying to "DESTROY OTHERS". JAH RASTAFARI IS OUR AVENGER". "Africa is our home, this is the only home we know.our hopes are hight for the ultimate success of the spirit of our liberty".

                  " Ethiopia, thou land of our fathers,
                    thou land where the Gods loved to be.
                   Advance,advance to victory,let Africa be free.
                   Ethiopia the tyrant's falling.Who smote thee
                   upon thy knees.And thy children are lustily
                   calling from over the distant seas."


MMG ' Good white folks have paid our erstwhile leaders to tell us bed-time stories to lull us to sleep like children- that the problem will solve itself as the years go by. But I am telling you to wake up and stay awke."
            " The old myths must be cleared away, they are like cob-web in your brains". Slavery was the result of the needs of the strong to maintain material strength."  IN ALL HONESTY ,DO YOU BELIEVE THAT SATAN INTEND TO GIVE UP HIS POWER? Then why are we here debating about our true identity and our destiny." We work to live gloriously." It is  Divine purpose for us to live in our natural habitat - the tropical zones of the earth.
              ' A  BEGGAR - RACE CAN NEVER BE RESPECTED. STOP BEGGING WHITES AND  OTHER PERMISSION TO DEFINE WHO WE ARE.AND ALSO LOOKING FOR APPROVAL TO USE THE WORD "BLACK SUPREMACY". "STAND UP YOU MIGHTY RACE" WHITES SHOULD DEAL WITH THEIR CONSCIENCE ,AND NOT WITH THEIR BELIEF."  
             LIVE UP  RASTA CHILDREN, BE WISE, THIS IS JUST A TEST. ONE PERFECT BLACK LOVE,BLACK SUPREMACY IS OUR BIRTH RIGHT, DON'T BE AFRAID OR JOIN THE WOLF PACK, FOR JAH IS ON OUR SIDE.   BIG UP EMPRESSGONG JAH SOLDIER. EMPRESS CARLA KEEP JAH FIRE BURNING,SISMARLEY KEEP THE SHANGO SPIRIT ALIVE, CAITIE CONTINUE TO BE HUMBLE. BLESSED LOVE. [smiley=wink.gif]
Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: EmpressGong on February 08, 2006, 06:26:46 PM
Bless Up

rasta_dattha that was truly a Fyah Reasoning! big Up Garvey I and de WordSoundPower.

InI believe in Sighting God through I own eyes, in I own Image. hey it just so happens that Selassie I fits my bill  [smiley=laugh.gif]I dont see why when Ones do this they have to be fought. There is nothing wrong with livicating de Blackness of Creation. I was never implying that 'whites' should not livicate themself. If they think Rasta is the way then what can I say? but if anyone really read my comments in the Black Supremacy thread they know I want 'whites' to livicate dem selves and stop running from their history.

every culture of people defines God to their own standard, culture, identity. That is human nature! No one sits and fights down the Buddhists and Hindu and all them other religions who define their Irituality for themselves.

But when it come to Blackness now it is always 'why dis why dat.' Look! I want it to be made clear that anytime I talk about something in Rastafari in regards to Blackness, I am not sayin that I hate whites or hate dis race or dat race. I am expressing what is Mine! I am proud and I will talk bout it as I wish. my God is Black. my Creator is all things! Study it! There are different levels to Oneness! Study it! Black, white, pink, yellow...all different levels of Oneness! Study it!

If everyone have a right to look for Jah within themself then I really dont see what the problem is.Elect you really make some very profound points. But I choose to represent my Self differently and I make no apologies to others. I agree with what most Idren say here but I rep different.  I as a Black Wombman know the power that lays beneath my skin. I KNOW that my skin is on the Iteful level of Creation. I know my Istory and I think its time that my people know it too. I not asking for sympathizers, I not lookin to be slapped on de wrist neida, nor am I lookin for approval.Everytime I wanna big up my people I get tell I wrong becuz Im being too exclusive. well it Nah go so!

Black is Black is Black . Blickety Blackety Blurk! Thats right! Some of us need to go back in the poetry threads and look for that poem Black by blackroses.(the first blackroses on the forum not the 2 girls who are currently postin under that name.)

It feels damn good.

EmpressGong
Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: EmpressGong on February 08, 2006, 06:31:55 PM
ok I got it wrong, her name was blacklily...wonder what ever happened to her.

Black

I?m feeling black today
Yeah mighty Black

> >

Blacker than Black

> >

Been black since the beginning of time

Nubian pyramids the sphinx

Home of higher learning

> >

And the Nile sleeps in distant memories

> >

Stolen Black

Held in cages and sold on stages

> >

Chattel Black

> >

Field Black

> >

Kitchen black

> >

Runaway black

> >

Shackled and whipped

> >

Child-like comic joke

> >

Buck-eyes shaky knees

Watermelon stealing

No good lazy Black

> >

Your sexual animal

> >

Black man larger than large

Black woman wilder than wild

> >

Used and abused

> >

Yeah I?m feeling really black right now

> >

Separate door

> >

Separate water fountain

> >

Separate schools

> >

Separate lives

For Black

> >

Civil rights Black

Marching in Selma Black

> >

Lynch that black n*gger

Black

> >

Water hosed and night sticked

> >

Police dog biting

> >

And bussed where I don?t want to be

> >

Black

> >

Damn!  I feel another

Black attack coming on

> >

Malcolm X and Thurgood Marshall

Huey and Frederick Douglas

Marcus Garvey

And Farrakhan

Talking loud and proud

> >

Until checked, infiltrated, and censored

Black

> >

Alcoholic

> >

Dopefiend

> >

Murderer

> >

Slanging and banging

> >

Hanging outside the liquor store

> >

Drive-by gunning

> >

Dope dealing, stealing our will

> >

Broke the Movement?s back

> >

Yeah I?m getting blacker

By the minute

> >

Front page modeling

> >

NBA jumping

> >

Four star wearing

> >

Jet plane flying

> >

Single parent striving striving

And striving with dignity

To stay

Black

> >

F*ck Ebonics!

> >

Let?s talk about the real

Black math

> >

Young black plus court black

> >

Equals

> >

Way too, too many prison

Black

> >

Selling the 40-oz.

Black

> >

Black on black crime

> >

Never heard of any

Other kind

Feeling angry

Black

> >

Lookout it?s a

Blackout

> >

Trying to cut-off

Black power

> >

Makes me get in a

Black mood

> >

Feeling like a

Black sheep

> >

On another black day

> >

Why is black so negative?

> >

Well I?m gonna spray it

Like a black-10

> >

Black-black-balckety-black

Black-black-blackety-black-black-black

> >

Did I get you?
Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: Oskar on February 12, 2006, 11:32:57 AM
Yea, you found the spot dattha. I can show a link here though showing that black light is referring to UV lights that cause certain material to emit visible light. Not that black light is every and all electromagnetic spectra as stated in the original post.

I just thought that since it - the message - deal with science and phenomenon within the world it might be of interest?

(ref http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Black_light&oldid=37727105)
Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: joeyb on February 12, 2006, 08:02:11 PM
"There is nothing wrong with livicating de Blackness of Creation. I was never implying that 'whites' should not livicate themself. If they think Rasta is the way then what can I say? but if anyone really read my comments in the Black Supremacy thread they know I want 'whites' to livicate dem selves and stop running from their history."

You mention here that whites should livicate themselves, but to what extent do you really think this is appropriate? I am willing to accept black supremacy alongside the livication of the other colours, but if someOne was going around bigging up the white race, would anyOne be upset?

OneLove
Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: EmpressCarla on February 13, 2006, 01:30:09 AM
Blessings

Quote
I am willing to accept black supremacy alongside the livication of the other colours, but if someOne was going around bigging up the white race, would anyOne be upset?

If a white person gave Ises to Jah for seeing the divinity in how Jah made them, I personally would not have a problem with it. In fact, if whites do not give thanks for their being a reflection of the Creator then something is wrong. I would love to hear more white rastas give thanks for how they are, naturally and authentically...and to proclaim Jah's truth of all men/wombmen being created equal to THEIR OWN white bredren and sistren who are still in ignorance...while we Africans seek to do the same for our African bredren and sistren who do not know the truth of themselves as royalty.

You see, many Africans need to know that they are better than what they have been taught about themselves. We need to rise up as a mighty nation, our heritage ancient. Likewise, white rastas might try to go to their own who don't know their Istory. Tell them the truth of white supremacy, of the history of oppression and domination caused by their ancestors. Let them know they too need to remember their ancients and know the truth so that they no longer hide behind ignorant bliss. When we all can see the truth of ourselves, whether that truth be good or bad, only then can we begin to heal. THEN perhaps One Love will be a true ideal.

Be blessed.
Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: Positive_Vibration on February 13, 2006, 01:46:45 AM
Quote
Blessings

If a white person gave Ises to Jah for seeing the divinity in how Jah made them, I personally would not have a problem with it. In fact, if whites do not give thanks for their being a reflection of the Creator then something is wrong. I would love to hear more white rastas give thanks for how they are, naturally and authentically...and to proclaim Jah's truth of all men/wombmen being created equal to THEIR OWN white bredren and sistren who are still in ignorance...while we Africans seek to do the same for our African bredren and sistren who do not know the truth of themselves as royalty.

You see, many Africans need to know that they are better than what they have been taught about themselves. We need to rise up as a mighty nation, our heritage ancient. Likewise, white rastas might try to go to their own who don't know their Istory. Tell them the truth of white supremacy, of the history of oppression and domination caused by their ancestors. Let them know they too need to remember their ancients and know the truth so that they no longer hide behind ignorant bliss. When we all can see the truth of ourselves, whether that truth be good or bad, only then can we begin to heal. THEN perhaps One Love will be a true ideal.

Be blessed.


First of all let me say that I completely overstand the foundation of Rastafari.

With that said...is it not destructive to set up barriers like that --- with whites strictly helping whites and Africans strictly helping Africans? Those barriers have already been bussed up as far as I can see! For in the network of conscious people, a foundational level of equality has been achieved. Socially, at least. This site is an example of all nationalities learning from eachother. Another is all the Europeans, Asians, South Americans, etc, that have learned from the mixed Bob Marley. My own learning from many African brothers and sisters through music especially...and all the big-ups I've gotten from people of African heritage on my own music!

I definently see what you're saying and it's idealistically pure and clean but doesn't really transcend into these times. Conscious people in general have a lot to learn from eachother...and I know that everytime I take stage I'm definently not targetting "my" people. For just a couple shows ago --- it was for my mother's side of the family...I'm considered white however that side is 90% hispanic...some 1st and second cousins even have African roots.

Not trying to offend anybody. But I've learned immensely from Africans (you, Empress Carla, are a great example of that!) ... from Asia, from South Americans, etc. It honestly pains me to even group them like that. I know the power structure thinks otherwise. I just wish we could get past all this nationality binding and continue working for opressed people and for Jah.This is an effort I feel all awakened people can help with...

Humble blessings
Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: EmpressCarla on February 13, 2006, 02:14:18 AM
Blessings

I think you may be missing my point. I never said whites should strictly help whites or blacks strictly help blacks. I am not saying that we should divvy up and ONLY help our own. But who better to enlighten other whites than enlightened whites? Who better to enlighten blacks than enlightened blacks? There is a better relation and empathy and comfort level between those who are more familiar. That’s just the plain truth.

You are spreading Jah’s message through your music bredren. That is GREAT, seen. However, it seems that most don’t want to DEAL with the separation amongst the races. They rather just not discuss it or say let’s all be One. The highest truth is that we already are One People. Yet it is also true that the white supremacy power structure does not perpetuate a Oneness but a separatist mentality. I see that. I address that. While at the same time knowing the highest truth is that we are all One People.

You stated:
I just wish we could get past all this nationality binding and continue working for opressed people and for Jah.This is an effort I feel all awakened people can help with...

Ok. Then my question to you is, how?

Be blessed.
Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: Positive_Vibration on February 13, 2006, 03:23:23 AM
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You stated:
I just wish we could get past all this nationality binding and continue working for opressed people and for Jah.This is an effort I feel all awakened people can help with...

Ok. Then my question to you is, how?

Be blessed.


Raspect, first of all, for the reply. You are a very valued mentor and teacher to I 'n I.

As far as 'how'...the foundation of it is obviously spreading Jah words upon that and raising wider consciousness progressively and so if the reality is dawned and the truth is seen...it is only natural for it to be spread. I'm not directly African however I see what's going on with opression to Africans everyday, and so I address it. This is something everyone can do.

The next step is fighting it down by the source. I-man have personally done this before in bringing down (not physically) a teacher at I school that was blatently racist. This is something everyone can do.

The final step, for most if not many, - after the foundation and all layers are lain down - is repatriation. Organizations like RASCOM will ultimatlely help carry that out but their fuel, impartially, is funds. This is something everyone can contribute to.

I'm not trying to stick my nose where it doesn't belong...because by 'all conscious people' I literally mean all. I understand an African struggle is a struggle of Africans, however a problem amongst Jah people is one that all of Jah children can selflessly give help to

Humble blessings, once again


Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: EmpressGong on February 14, 2006, 02:19:10 PM
Blessed Love


Great Reasoning EmpressC!

Now, if white people went around 'biggin up demself' in a positve light, and truly uplifting the Irit, of course some people would be offended. that would be those who refuse to see that there is inbedded good in all humans. The same way how we Afrakans get fight down so would anyone else. But that doesnt stop our trod. We know what we are about, and to those who dont know we still show love because we are of One culture and origin.

This whole debate in Rastafari is not necessarily about dividin up this and that. But I also believe that a white person cant know whats good for me, neither can I know for you. I see myself as Supreme in one way and you another, but in the end our supremacies fall under the same banner of Creation. I do me and you do you.

I am not sayin that oh blacks should stay from whites and all that mess, Im just sayin that your loyalties should first lie in Self before you could claim to help others. that is what Black Supremacy is all about. We have got to teach our fallen Afrakan Idren about their Istory and the POWER of their people. They need to be livicated from the sleepin death they live everyday. That is Rastafari primary duty.

It would be of great benefit to the destructive mentality of the European if the meaning and practices behind white supremacy were significantly changed or eradicated. the divide and rule mentality is a poison and I tired of seein it being fed to all people of the earth.but black people cant stop it. you have to do it first. and by takin care of Self, then the other movements like Rastafari of this world can move nearer to mental and Iritual liberation.

Im sorry to say that all I know of Europeans is divide and rule. SO why arent you telling me about your greatness? Why arent you proud to teach me about your Ancestors? Now tell me, if you cant do that how can you teach someone about My people?

EmpressGong

Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: Positive_Vibration on February 14, 2006, 09:21:20 PM
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Im sorry to say that all I know of Europeans is divide and rule. SO why arent you telling me about your greatness? Why arent you proud to teach me about your Ancestors? Now tell me, if you cant do that how can you teach someone about My people?


The "greatness" of me is that I was created by the Almighty Jah who has been manifested in Haile Selassie I. A simple truth for one and all.

I am honestly not here to teach of my 'great ancestors', etc. I understand what you're saying sistren, and it is valued, but I'm just here humbly agreeing with you. Divide and rule needs to sizzle in Jah Fiyah and that's what I'm working towards too.

Africans are of orIginal creation which is why I overstand black supremecy so much. That's a simple truth too.

Anyway...I am just a conscious and itinually seeking youth that wants to see Babylon fall just as bad as you. It pains me when posts like this are made, as I see "my" people as Jah people in general...though not in any form of ownership.

It's just an unfortunate fact that my ancestors were people that enslaved even people of their own color. I don't know what to say about that other then learn from it and burn it now as it's now that I'm here.

Rastafari's mission is a global one which seriously needs to be fufilled and through livity and works...I-man am working towards it too. A big up to Black pride as it is beautiful. All righteous people deserve the bigup in this time.

I don't know what else to say. I'm trying to live my life as righteous as possible and feel like I'm repetitively being held back in topics like this. Christopher Columbus was not my fault...Africans selling off Africans wasn't yours either...let us just continue learning and spreading it as a whole...

At the end of that day though, in these times, as two conscious people, and as a mass of conscious people, we are fighting down the same opresser. The clean-cut 'white men' in office that we don't see...that are penetrating Jah people with vanity, Babylon, and lesser givings..the fiyah needs to burn equally from those feeling it to those seeing it

On the issue of Istorical teachings...I do understand the idea of Africans teaching African history and so forth. Endless raspect on that

Blessed love
Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: EmpressCarla on February 14, 2006, 09:59:30 PM
Blessings

The thing is, there are MANY well-meaning “clean-cut white men” who may be perpetuating white supremacy because they simply don’t even understand the implications of their actions. They are unaware of white privilege. These are the people that need to be reached. These are the people I’d like to see white rastas try to reason with as I think it would have a greater effect in chanting down Babylon than just saying we are all Jah’s people. It is not sufficient to simply reject your own culture as it is embedded in your DNA. This is not a bad thing. It just is. But ones (everyone, black or white) should reject that part of their culture which is negative and PROMOTE the positive.

In other words, don’t walk away from who you are. Just KNOW who you are. That is the first step in changing things: acknowledgement. How is this mighty Babylon to fall if the ones in power are not made aware? Instead of ignoring things we need to shine a light on it for ALL to see.

You know, I really admire Tim Wise. As a white man, he seems to “get it.” He does not reject his own whiteness but still is able to speak out against what is wrong in the world. He doesn’t hesitate to state the truth of white supremacy and privilege, yet he is still comfortable as a white man. I feel he is probably effecting mental change in many ways that he may never know. Because when we can see someone who looks like us state a cold hard truth, we are more apt to give credence to that fact. We can relate better. So for a white man to talk about what whites do, it’s not seen as some bitter black person complaining again. It might cause one to stop and think, “If this guy sees this perspective—a guy who would be guilty of all of which he speaks about (i.e., white privilege)—then maybe I should stop and consider this perspective.” Get what I mean??

Again, it takes nothing away from Tim Wise to speak of white man’s atrocities while still celebrating his whiteness. He is credible in white society and circles. He is an educated, typical-looking, “clean-cut” white man. Yet he speaks truth time and time again. This is what I’d really like to see more white rastas (and Selassian Christians) try to do.

You’re telling me you can’t find ANYTHING within white culture that’s worth a big up??? Then I would submit to you that you haven’t bothered to look. If it is true that there is good and bad to be found in all races of people and all walks of life, how come no white rastas can point out the good of your people? When you can find some good in white Istory, you’ll fully overstand Black Supremacy and what it means to us. Then perhaps you’ll see the difference between it and White Supremacy as it is currently used.

"If you're looking to understand why discussions between blacks and whites about racism are often so difficult in this country, you need only know this: when the subject is race and racism, whites and blacks are often not talking about the same thing." --Tim Wise

Click here to read full article. (http://www.lipmagazine.org/~timwise/raynagin.html)

And here is Tim's official website. (http://www.timwise.org)

Be blessed
Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: Positive_Vibration on February 14, 2006, 10:32:14 PM
Of course there have been plenty of white men, in the last 50 years at least, and white women too that have been conscious, positive freedom fighters. Joseph Israel...Carlos Jones...the MC5...Jerry Garcia. A couple in history too.

I overstand everything in that article on Black Supremecy and am not trying to debate or butcher that

I guess my biggest problem is even words like 'my people.' Not a problem with you using it...not a problem with Africans using...nothing biased like that. Just the word in general. Other then through power seperation, I fail to see the lines. As even conscious (African) Rastas like Ras Pressure, Ras Iba, Army, etc...openly say "your people is my people" and "my people is Jah people."

Ultimately it is one struggle, and I guess I simply fail to see "ultimately" as an eventual concept. The fact that Africans and Europeans already habitate together in houses of Rastafari from England to Jamaica is just itinual evidence.

Endless raspect sistren.

Jah love

Bless
Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: rasta_dattha on February 14, 2006, 10:39:20 PM
BLESSED LOVE,
   
       " IF HUMANITY IS REGARDED AS MADE UP OF THE CHILDREN OF GOD, AND GOD LOVES ALL HUMANITY (WE ALL KNOW THAT), THEN GOD WILL BE MORE PLEASED WITH THE RACE THAT PROTECTS ALL HUMANITY THAN WITH THE RACE THAT OUTRAGES THE CHILDREN OF GOD."
         
      " THEREFORE WE MUST BELIEVE THAT THE PSALMIST HAD GREAT HOPES OF THIS RACE OF OURS WHEN HE PROPHESIED "PRINCES SHALL COME OUT OF EGYPT AND ETHIOPIA SHALL STRETCH FORTH HER HANDS UNTO GOD"
         
                               
                          MARCUS MOSIAH GARVEY.                      
   
      THE REAL FOUNDATION OF BLACK SUPREMACY " ETHIOPIA"      

                                                                                        smiley=wink.gif]  
Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: EmpressGong on February 15, 2006, 01:43:30 AM
Blessed Love


[smiley=laugh.gif]ya got me there on that one rasta_dattha Ithiopia is TRULY de real foundation!


EmpressC has said a lot of things that I would like to say so Im just gonna say "ditto".

but I must say that Positive_Vibration I really dont think you are "getting it." I not getting you at all my friend! And the quiet readers may not be gettin it either.

I not asking you to overstand Black SUpremacy and prove to me how much you are a fighter in JahArmy....I SIGHT that already! You must be confident ok? Your works are indeed for the greater good.

But let me say this clearly to you...the reason why you and many others here have problems with terms like 'my people' is because the truth and reality is (this is the impression u gave me) that you all have rejected your own.you lackin de LOVE and sweet feeling that goes with being proud of your roots...for you are a leaf or a branch of that strong root!

if this is so, how then can you be comfortable when I say my people, your people? I already told you we are One under the banner of Iration. We are different shades/hues of the same...but the essence of our shades is what drives us to sight the Almighty in albeit different ways....we were created that way...the Iniverse is about different energies, vibrations and reactions so what can one expect here on earth?

You've (I mean in general) got to stop telling us you 'overstand this and overstand that' about Afraka and Rastafari and what its all about. Its time to move beyond 'gettin acceptance' to really act out in the way that you will be best at....educatin your own! promoting your own! LOVING your own! How can I look at the history and current actions of a race/hue and feel love if that people cant for itself. Fixin our global problem is not by running away from the core of destruction. the same way we have had to burn in it for centuries, you must as well and I know you are, but you arent CONQUERING! You have that power that we could never have! Your destiny is birthed by your root! and guess what, it would really help mine out if you dug deeper!!

Jah works has many meanings, it is not solely focused on Black Supremacy, that is one thread in the rope that will strangle dem downpressors of any colour and culture.

RastafarI Blessings! Selassie I know!

EmpressGong
Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: Positive_Vibration on February 15, 2006, 01:55:28 AM
That really helped loads and uplifted me simueltaneously, Empress Gong.

I can say now that I truly "overstand," and I apologize for past confusion.

Thank you...I will continue meditating on that and continue working on that roar, so to speak.

Bless
Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: EmpressGong on February 15, 2006, 01:58:35 AM
hey now,

what do the Sistren ALWAYS say on this site?

NO APOLOGIES! [smiley=laugh.gif]

Militancy is the call and de ordah!

EmpressGong
Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: rasta_dattha on February 15, 2006, 03:32:21 PM
JAH BLESS,
         Give thanks EmpressGong, you are truly are teacher. One that teaches truths and rights with humility and humbleness. Our mission as sons and dattas of the Most HIGH, is to teach the truth about the Rastafarians and our story.
         
         The Rastafarian movement has as its chief aim the complete destruction of all vestiges of white supremacy.Thereby putting an end to economic exploitation and the social degradation of the Black people.
   
         JAH did not say " come let us  make underpriviledged man,middle class man,rich man or slaves." He said '' come let us make man." The existence of all of those is a product of white supremacy.

             RASTAFARIANS ARE THE APOSTLES OF THE BLACK CHRIST.
                     
                      WE DEFEND BLACK SUPREMACY.

     I GIVE THANKS TO THOSE ONES THAT ARE ON THIS SITE TEACHING, LEARNING, SHARING, GIVING, AND  ACCEPTING OUR TRUTH (STORY) WITH HUMBLENESS ,HUMILITY  AND WITH LOVE.
                                          JAH BLESS U ALL.  [smiley=cool.gif]
Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: Positive_Vibration on February 15, 2006, 08:31:35 PM
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hey now,

what do the Sistren ALWAYS say on this site?

NO APOLOGIES! [smiley=laugh.gif]

Militancy is the call and de ordah!

EmpressGong
"

Yes I!

Jah Ras Tafari bless your days
Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: joeyb on February 17, 2006, 02:25:24 PM
Just wanted to say thanks for the Tim Wise link, blazing a white FYH for 1nce!

OneLove
Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: Positive_I-rations on February 17, 2006, 02:42:37 PM
Thanks yet again Empress, this post brought Irie vibes and much clarity...
Keep the Fiyah burning, it's a blessing to have you around !

Jah Live
Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: JMchen0918 on July 03, 2009, 03:31:17 AM
We think that it was the ones to read and overstand that even when one reaches out to education and, science in particular. Thanks for sharing.



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Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: FaLChick on December 09, 2009, 11:20:10 PM
I have a pproblem with the 'my people' and 'your people' stuff too.   Even if I cannot (which I can), but even if i cannot name things off that 'my people' have done (my people - what a joke - where do i draw the line?), it doesn't mean i've rejected my own. . . i'm white yes - i'm feeling the concepts behind conscious reggae music (so would that be classified as "your people"?), as i feel some alternative music (that would be a "my people" thing right? - im not too sure i guess you would know better).   Even if I did not like anything culturally contributed by "your people" i'm not gonna sit here and big ups on a white supremacist tip.   Theres so much to learn from so many people.   I get it that yeah you wanna learn about africans, afrians will probably be able to teach you best. .  you want to learn about women. . . then yes a woman is probably the best person to talk to.   Adn that you are probably most likely to be able to relate to and understand someone who looks like you, etc. . .  But wat is with the supremacist nonsense?  It was wrong when some misguided people used it in the first place, how can you condone such a term?

To be completely honest with you though, im not "proud" to be white.   Im not "proud" to be a woman.   Im not proud to be "physically able bodied".   Im not proud to be 5'2''.   Im not proud to have a 'nice' job.   I just AM.   Dont get me wrong i am very happy with who i am but its more that I feel humbly blessed for everything that is I.   I see it as a privilege.   I recognize the privilege that has been accorded to me in certain regards.   And i use that privilege for the greater good.   I recognize and appreciate the great thoughts, ideas, inventions, movements, arts and cultures that i find across the globe.   And whatever i am able to learn from them, I use for the greater good.   To be honest, i AM proud of one thing.   Im proud to be a part of a movement towards making this world a better place, and to me thats all that matters.   I am proud of this because it is something that i have CHOSEN to do.   I cant help my skin colour, my sex, my age, my physical traits. . .  and frankly i dont care what it is.   Im not concerned abot what my ancestors did or what 'my people' did.   I mean thats great and all, but i will not let it define who i am.   I learn from their successes and their mistakes as I learn from everyone's successes and mistakes.   I am human before i am anything.   And as a human striving for a better place, a place where we can get along and understand that we are all interconnected, I dont see terms like Black Supremacy, White Supremacy, your people vs.  my people as being conducive to anything positive for people as a whole.

So tell me, who are "your people".   How does this 'people' thing work?  Cause i think i know a whole heap of 'people' who would be confused and not too sure of where they would fit in.   Dont you see?! You are providing another means of seperation between people in a time where we should be coming together and eliminating those divisions!  How do you think a white person in a room would feel when you start talking about "Black Supremacy".   How would you feel if they started going on about "White Supremacy"? Its not necessary.  We can learn from each other without the discrepancies.
Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: surfmon_I on December 10, 2009, 11:24:29 AM
Greetings FalChick,
  This topic, as well as the other you have posted up on may very well not be replyed to, as many of these original members have journeyed onward.  I thought I might share a few thoughts.
  When I responded to EmpressGong at first coming to this site and mustering the excitement and words to reply, I realized there is a completely different mindset of ones that were teaching the view from a different perspective.  I am not saying it is right or wrong, just different.  It was shortly after that reply, the empressgong, chose to leave due to the infiltration (percieved by her) of dilution of the Rastafari movement by us.
  In this world of ours, we can see the engine of polarity at work in every moment.  Extrem opposites that with the back and forth keep the shift and friction going.  If we look far deeper into our past, it is there as well.  Ever read the Enki Summarian Texts ?, well it is there as well, form a space age travelers that "created" Earthlings that eventually repeat the Niburian mistakes here on Earth.  If we look, we can see it everywhere.

  There is an element that transcends this view, and it is here that we are One.  EmpressGong, showed that to I when I looked with different eyes at what I had written.  Although we never got to finish the reasoning, mainly because it took I so long to process and come back, the Idea of Oneness and separation is a difficult one to explain.  We are different yet the same.  To have the World come to see that and Act that way, has yet to be achieved in times of Peace, for we are always in a state of CONfliction. 
  It is interesting though, that for the topics to respond to, you chose to go to these two, and I wonder if you are interested in taking it further.  If you woulk like a link to another site, where this type of heated disscission is always on the burner, I can forward it.
 
  OneLove, JAHLove.
  ~S~
Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: FaLChick on December 11, 2009, 04:25:39 AM
Forgive me if I'm completely off base, i'm not close to 'overstanding' anything about the rastafari movement.   But from what I have experienced, it places a huge emphasis on discussion, communication, learning from each other, medication and listening to each other to understand each other.   Isn't it about being one with each other?  Is everyone suppose to agree with her?  If we all agreed we wouldnt be in this mess to begin with.   I feel she is misled.

Enki Summarian Texts - haven't even heard of it  - ill read it still.   What is it? Ahh i can google that.   More importantly - what does it mean to you?

  "There is an element that transcends this view, and it is here that we are One.   EmpressGong, showed that to I when I looked with different eyes at what I had written.   Although we never got to finish the reasoning, mainly because it took I so long to process and come back, the Idea of Oneness and separation is a difficult one to explain.   We are different yet the same. "   -  would love to read this thread. . .  link?

"To have the World come to see that and Act that way, has yet to be achieved in times of Peace, for we are always in a state of CONfliction. " - As we will remain if people keep finding excuses to differentiate from each other.   I know we are different.   We should embrace those differences, but we shouldnt use them to condone talks like "your people" "my people". . .   It's sad how she assumes that just because someone identifies (either partly or wholly) with a culture that is not perceived by society as being 'related to your race', doesn't mean you have a problem with anything that is not part of that culture.   Does that mean that because she identifies with her culture that she rejects "white" culture - if you wanan call it that? LoL i cant even have a discuussion using terms like my people, your people, it screws up my logic and i get confused and nothing makes sense anymore. . .  you cant even break down culture by "your people" and "my people", its jsut not definable.   She's essentially created divisions that have been with us for centuries, divisions that she has recognized as wrong, and is maintaining those divisions through 'enlightened dialogue'.   It boggles my mind.

Anwyays :)  Yes, I was on a different thread looking for info - i hit next and got the melatonin thread (unbelievable), i ended up at an index and saw the "supremacy" term and it was kind of the same topic so i had a look.   I was so frustrated by the end of my post i left.   Havent even seen what else is on here :)

Yea yea, send those site links still.   Would love to get a better idea from where people are coming from.   I mean of course i think im right ;) but im definately open to seeing how others perceive what im saying and maybe being proved wrong :) - its all about understanding where each is coming from, sharing that knowldge, and learning to be better people from it.

Havent done the forum thing ever actually :)  Ive read alot, but never commented. . .  one of those moods i guess :)  ITs kinda nice - i like reading more than i like writing tho.   Often my questions are asked an answered before the end of a thread.   I prefer discussing these things in person. . . i lose my train of thought when i write LOL. . . 

Im glad someone answered - and it wasnt some kind of nonesense.   I wasnt even going to bother checking, but i thought - jsut maybe.   I actually ended up having this conversation with a few people - who agreed, probably to shut me up. . .  im totally open to dialogue.

So thanks! :)
Title: Re: De Real Foundation of Black Supremacy
Post by: surfmon_I on December 11, 2009, 11:05:38 PM
 Glad to read your words Sistren.  Please DO keep checking up and asking, seems the time always comes when we least expect it. 
  I do not remember the thread, but the message was a powerful one when I think back on the words... It showed that there are ones that see things completely differently from our own perspective. 
  Forums are a tricky place, we must be as real as we can possibly be without giving too much personal away.  But to use these places to have confliction, is not so hard to see.  It is a pleasure to get to reason with each other in a brotherly and sisterly fashion.  It is only as much as we give that we recieve.  The site is one that has neen talked of on the main board, World of Jah.  It is true that it is completely a different vibe than Nicks.  But, like you sai, it is always nice to get a different view.  Humility always goes a long way, and no one knows it all, JAH know.
  I agree on the level of oneness as expressed in the omission of using "my" people, "your" people.  One of the Beautiful things of writing with I speak, is that what we build in our words comes from a common , Exceptional ONENESS. It is a place where there is no Me or You, and I have always like that Idea.    A place where God  Has touched each of us.  When we look with these eyes, we may glimpse the Love we are capable of, ( I am still trying ).  When we interact with each other, and come away brighter, happier, that is where we shine.

~S~