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Title: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: EmpressCarla on February 08, 2006, 04:26:19 PM
A New Zealand dog food manufacturer, Christine Drummond, has offered to send dog food to help starving Kenyans. She apparently can’t distinguish the difference between an African child and a puppy—she offered 42 tons of the dog food. Drummond is still locked in the colonial-era arrogance that sees Africans as animals and can be treated in any way the “big bwana” sees fit.

Drummond, founder of Mighty Mix dog food, said she wanted to send the first shipment to Kenya in March. She said the relief food she intended to send, NZ's Raw Dry Nourish, used the same ingredients as Mighty Mix dog food biscuits. “The first plan was to send dog biscuits and change the vitamins,” Drummond said, but she changed plans when she realized there were too many starving children in Kenya. Instead, she added, she produced a powder that she says just needs water added to form a sustainable meal.

Drummond said she came up with the aid idea to send dog food for hungry Kenyan children after she spoke with a New Zealand woman whose daughter had just returned from a village in Kenya. Her plan was to distribute the food through the Mercy Mission charity, based in Kenya, and promote it as a "nutritional supplement" rather than dog food. New Zealand doctors supposedly said it was okay, accordingly to a published account.

Mighty Mix dog food agent Gaynor Siviter, told a New Zealand reporter: “The dogs thrive on it. They have energy, put on weight. It's bizarre but if it's edible and it works for these people then it's a brilliant idea. It beats eating rice.”

Kenya is currently suffering from five successive droughts. Needless to say, Drummond’s offer has been roundly denounced in newspaper columns and article throughout Africa. “Our children aren't puppies, madam,” declared a headline in Kenya's main newspaper, The Nation newspaper. Readers sent a chain of letters protesting against this racism. “For us Kenyans, it's a racial insult,” Julius Kwea of Nairobi said, in a published remark. “Kenyan kids are not so desperate as to eat dog food,” Kenya government spokesman Alfred Mutua said. “The offer was very naive and culturally insulting given the meaning of dogs in our culture,” he said.

“This is the time when Kenya needs leaders like Mugabe,” a Kenyan commentator said, referring to Zimbabwe’s leader, who has distributed formerly white-owned lands to landless Africans. “Leaders who can come out strongly and say ‘No’ to aid that does not respect the dignity of Africans. Kenyan children are human too and I think Mugabe was right in telling off western countries not to choke Zimbabweans with food they didn't need. If we don't stand firm, Europeans can play dirt things to our people.”

When racism rears its ugly face in the food aid business, the Western media is either silent or will move quickly to excuse blatant incidents as isolated cases. Even international relief agencies have buried their head in the sand and have adopted the its-non-of-our-business approach.

“I have so much heart for Kenyans,” Drummond said, in published remarks, trying to back off the controversy she caused. “I want to apologize to the government for what the media has created. I never intended to offend anyone.”

Yet, she still justified: “The powder consists of dried beef, mutton, garlic, kelp and other products, is full of energy-boosting nutrients. I eat it myself.”

There are many causes of hunger in Africa and these include land rights and ownership, diversion of land to non-productive use, drought, increasing emphasis on export-oriented agriculture, inefficient agricultural practices, war and others. Western countries and their conveyors of food aid have increasingly moved into solving hunger in the conventional sense–donating food is such a way as to perpetuate poverty and dependency in a way that Africans do not readily realize it. Now comes the ultimate insult: The offer of dog food.

Tsiko is The Black Star News’s Southern Africa correspondent based in Harare, Zimbabwe.

Title: Re: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: Ras Saadon on February 08, 2006, 05:16:08 PM
What the hell?!?  [smiley=angry.gif] [smiley=angry.gif].
What is going on with these people??? offering dog food to humans??? thier arrogance knows no limits!!
Title: Re: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: Positive_I-rations on February 08, 2006, 05:29:08 PM
Dog food... Seems she have nah Respect at all...

Bless
Title: Re: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: EmpressGong on February 08, 2006, 06:47:22 PM
Pure FYAH pun dat woman. She didnt mean to offend anyone? She eats it herself? RIGHT! From de first time she pitch dat idea to whoever, them had a right to tell her that she is nuts instead of thinking bout the business benefits to be had from such a donation.

How dare she want to give children dog food? I know that it could very well be eaten by humans...but yes plain and simply the  food has been stereotyped! Same way I wouldnt eat bird seed or fish food I wouldnt eat dog food! It aint for no human body!

And why would you want to pump dem children up with dried meat!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I could go on and on. Man just pure fyah. [smiley=lipsrsealed.gif] [smiley=angry.gif]
Title: Re: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: Wahine on February 09, 2006, 08:26:38 AM
Thank you for posting that article EmpressCarla.
I live in New Zealand and the first i heard about this woman's proposed plan was on tv. My initial reaction??? My eyes and ears did a double take!
Even if my kids were starving i still wouldn't feed them dog food! She can eat as much of it as she likes, but as EmpressGong said it has already been "strereotyped" and i can see why people would feel and be insulted by this offer!
What really makes my blood boil is that she has sucesfully made our country look like a bunch of dumb sh*ts and underminded the work that other people are trying to do from here.
No doubt she could probably see dollar signs in her so called donation cause i doubt for one second that she would have just "donated" the crap even if it had been accepted.
I am glad that the people of Kenya have fired back at her. I hope she thinks twice before trying to make "donations" like this again.
Maybe she could be listed as a bad donor overseas so that she can't change the name of her product and try it again?? Just a thought.
Again thanks for the article. The media are always so one sided that i don't oftenly get to hear what the response of the world is.
Title: Re: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: Burre on February 11, 2006, 12:26:26 AM
Man this is horrible !
There shouldn't be anything like this in the world  [smiley=sad.gif]
Title: Re: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: newrasta on February 11, 2006, 07:40:24 PM
Wow, that's really disgusting... [smiley=cry.gif]
Title: Re: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: african_herbsman on February 11, 2006, 07:54:04 PM
I-Ney,Irie

This is truly sickening
that woman should be made to eat the dog food on tv if she likes it so much
this shows that afrikans are still treated like 2nd class citizens [smiley=angry.gif]
Title: Re: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: Lost_Soul on February 11, 2006, 10:10:21 PM
I live in New Zealand & this woman was on the 6pm news the other night eating this food. She has been eating it & feeding it 2 her own children for the last 20 years. I know the thought of it may be yuck but I think she has good intentions. From what I gather it is a very nutrious food that has been proven 2b fit for human consumption. Maybe she is doing the wrong thing...but is it not better to eat then starve to death?
Title: Re: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: EmpressCarla on February 12, 2006, 01:22:21 AM
Blessings

The thing is, from what I've read Kenyans (and maybe Africans in general, I'm not sure) view dogs as very lowly animals. They do not even keep them as pets. So to offer food meant for a dog is a HUGE insult to them. Imagine if you were starving and someone offered you food fit for a rat or a pig (i.e., slop). Even if I were starving, I wouldn't see that offer as a "good deed". Perhaps the woman meant well, but MOST people are not interested in eating dog food. At best, it was just plain ignorant.

If the woman is truly genuine in her desire to give charity, then let her take the same amount in cash that it would cost to manufacture and send the dog food, and just send the cash instead to an existing charity.

Be blessed.
Title: Re: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: Lost_Soul on February 12, 2006, 06:50:55 PM
I understand what your saying EmpressCarla. This is a tough one because I see a person trying 2 help yet she is being put down for it. I agree that she should send money instead but I guess we do not know all her circumstances & maybe that is just not an option for her.
Title: Re: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: Wahine on February 13, 2006, 05:06:24 AM
Lost_Soul...
I see you are from Auckland land of the great divide between the rich and poverty stricken.
If you were a person who belonged to a group of people who had been downpressed for many many years and someone offered you food "labelled" as dog food would it not make you feel like the kicked "dog" so to speak??
When you want to help others, you should at least be diplomatic and sensitive about how you address the issue.
Perhaps if she had labelled it as a nutricious supplement it might have made a difference. I certainly know that if i was starving and someone offered me dog food to eat i wouldn't want it either.
Title: Re: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: Ash-Tree on February 13, 2006, 04:47:59 PM
instead of desinging a crap food that mixes with water why didnt she just give them the money it cost to do this?
jah Ashley
Title: Re: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: tarren on February 14, 2006, 01:41:21 AM
This seems much more like an insult rather than a helping hand
Title: Re: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: Wahine on February 14, 2006, 04:31:29 AM
My thoughts to blackstarline.

Pet food "better than death"
AAP
Kenyans reacting to an offer from New Zealand of dog food to save hungry children have said that they would rather eat dog food than starve to death.
"It is better to eat dogs meat than succumb to death," said Thomas Oddo, who recently lost a child because of starvation.
His comment followed an offer from New Zealand dog food manufacturer Christine Drummond who wants to send food to hungry children in Rusinga Island in Lake Victoria.
Parents of some of the children said leaders opposed to the offer were only satisfying their personal egos at the expense of starving millions in the country.
"That dogs food would save the lives of the malnourished children," said James Ochieng, speaking on behalf of the parents on Rusinga Island.
The parents claimed that some senior officials in the Kenya Government had siphoned relief food meant for a hungry population and sold it instead.
Mrs Drummond, founder of the New Zealand Mighty Dog Food company, heard the children were starving after the daughter of her friend Mrs Lois McGirr of North Canterbury returned from a recent visit to Kenya.
Mrs Drummond now wants to help by sending starving children in Kenya 42 tonnes of dog food in a powder to be mixed with water, which she says could feed 160 orphans for two months.
When contacted for comment, Kenya Government spokesman Alfred Mutua rejected claims some senior officials had siphoned relief food meant for starving children and sold it.
He insisted that Kenyan children were not suffering such a shortage of food that they needed to start eating dog food. The Government was ready to accept food donations but not dog's food.
The minister in charge of special programmes, John Munyes, said it was an insult for somebody to think Kenyans could accept food meant for animals. He said such people should desist because "we will be very careful in vetting the donations."
Title: Re: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: newrasta on February 14, 2006, 04:54:32 AM
I agree with you Wahine, eating dog food is much better than death. But I'm thinking, couldn't they offer more than just dog food? Dog food's better than nothing, but couldn't they get the same amount of dog food they had in human's food?
Title: Re: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: Lost_Soul on February 14, 2006, 05:02:55 AM
Ras Evan this New Zealand woman feeds this food 2 her own children & eats it herself. They say its fit for human consumption. I know I would rather eat than starve to death. People feed rice to their dogs, does that mean rice is dog food?
Title: Re: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: Wahine on February 14, 2006, 05:03:30 AM
Sorry Ras Evan. [smiley=smiley.gif]
I wasn't showing support for it. That was an article that i saw in the paper.
While i am sure that to some of those people eating dog food would be preferable to death, i think it is insulting to offer "dog food".
As i said earlier, perhaps if she had labelled it as a nutricious supplement instead of dog food, her idea might have gone down better. I think to most people the mere thought of eating something that is meant for animal consumption is a real put off.
Title: Re: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: newrasta on February 14, 2006, 05:16:05 AM
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Sorry Ras Evan. [smiley=smiley.gif]
I wasn't showing support for it. That was an article that i saw in the paper.
While i am sure that to some of those people eating dog food would be preferable to death, i think it is insulting to offer "dog food".
As i said earlier, perhaps if she had labelled it as a nutricious supplement instead of dog food, her idea might have gone down better. I think to most people the mere thought of eating something that is meant for animal consumption is a real put off.


Yeah, I'm not showing support for it either, offering dog food to kids is pretty insulting. But seeing those television shows asking you to "adopt" and African child and support him/her makes me feel so bad for those kids, and seeing them in such conditions makes me think, "dog food is better than nothing."
Title: Re: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: Wahine on February 14, 2006, 05:26:54 AM
True Ras Evan.
I sponser a child in the Kanombe community in Rwanda but it is probably still not enough to really help.
Lost_Soul, not picking on you or anything but rice has been a staple diet for many different people and cultures and although i am well aware that it is fed to animals (my mother feeds it to her cat) i doubt it would ever be labelled as pet food.
And i think that is the biggest problem here. It is the label "Dog Food" that offends everyone.
Mrs Drummond can eat as much of it as she likes, but at the end of the day she was the one who labelled it as dog food.
Title: Re: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: Amandel on February 20, 2006, 01:38:32 PM
Misgana,

Have you seen that New Zealand woman eat this "nutricious supplement" a.k.a 'dog-food' on t.v? I'm not having that story, untill she mixes the powder with water and eat it on t.v, i won't believe she has good intentions. It seems like a cheap marketing stunt to me, she gives food in good faith and sales will automatically go up. As for giving the money of the dog food to existing charity organisations, i'm not having that one either. Time and time again it has been proven that these organisations don't achieve as much as what they say on paper. If these organisations had good intentions, why do their workers live lavish lifestyles in these poor countries, where do they get the money from?
That's one of the reason's i don't give money to any of those organizations, had a bad experience with one. They took my money and disappeared with it. Not that it matters because i gave it in good faith, but it hurt me to see how evilous some people can be. The problem isn't feeding them, it's letting them remove themselves from that cycle which WE (yes all of us) in the west put them in the first place.

It shows exactly how some white people view black people. Regarding the comment better to eat dog food than die. I'm thinking how much of you actually went hungry in your life. In the caribbean dog-food is an insult, it's even worse than cat-food. And ofcourse that father will say better to eat it than die, but he's only thinking about the small picture. Eating this imported food will only make the situation worse, the local produce won't be sold. I don't know how much of you know about economics and market. But sadly enough some will have to die in order for the majority to stay alive, but Africa was so foolish to accept all the aid it can possibly get and didn't know to protect their market. I'm not disputing that in some cases they needed all the help they can get. But in most of the cases the UN knew that there was a massive starvation on the way and they never took the necessary steps to insure that it doesn't exceed the the goverment's capability of handling the situation.


Title: Re: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: Wahine on February 21, 2006, 04:41:51 PM
This woman was on the news eating a meal that supposedly contained the "nuticious supplement". I didn't see her put it on her food or see her mix it together with water.
Title: Re: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: onajourney2berasta on February 21, 2006, 05:21:00 PM
i wish i could spit in that ladies face [smiley=angry.gif]
Title: Re: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: EmpressGong on February 21, 2006, 07:30:17 PM
PrinceZ, my beloved Empress_ez!!!

Thanks for posting what you did sis! Take me back to my studies! Reminds me of our old reasonings..

but Sistren is right. This issue can be looked at in so many ways...I already expressed my view on the social side, but from the economic and political side? This is just about money money money for the WEST not AFRAKA..this isnt about correcting the root problem which is that PEOPLE ARE STARVING. Why are they starving? How did that happen? How will it be fixed? Could these things be addressed instead of a woman marketing nasty dog food?

Aid is never about truly helping those in need, aid is about prolonging the state of destitution and making the problem even harder to correct becuz it is buried 6 ft under the BS.

FYAH pun all dem so!

EmpressGong
Title: Re: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: paco on February 25, 2006, 06:41:01 AM
a crime: [While over 20 percent of the population of Kenya starves, maize is actually being exported from the country! Foreign capitalists are buying it in bulk and exporting it to other parts of Africa where it can be sold for a profit — thus pushing the prices even higher.]

another way of seeing-- http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=46626
Title: Re: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: moonfall on March 17, 2006, 08:23:26 PM
Some people are jackasses, maby they were just trying to be dicks/ a publicity stunt.  But in the end why would you even offer dog for to and human?  Who in there rite mind thinks that way. "D" class meat is considerd the meat that is made into dog food, and "A" class meat is well things like good cuts of steak.  For a wile I know that Taco Bell usto use "D" class meat.  Is this rite?
Title: Re: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: Positive_I-rations on March 17, 2006, 08:30:21 PM
Quote
a crime: [While over 20 percent of the population of Kenya starves, maize is actually being exported from the country! Foreign capitalists are buying it in bulk and exporting it to other parts of Africa where it can be sold for a profit — thus pushing the prices even higher.]

another way of seeing-- http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=46626


Now this is so sick it doesn't even need any explanation, I bet those wicked people in charge for exporting the maize are really wealthy and well fed while they're starving out all the people.. !!!!!!!!!!! It's time to seriously think in depth how these situations can be solved (without bloodshed) so that the people get the corn and not some rich businessman who then sells it on.. !

Bless
Title: Re: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: Jason on March 22, 2006, 07:33:21 PM
what are careless and heartless woman burn in fyah
Title: Re: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: sweetness on March 24, 2006, 12:34:37 AM
i find this topic sickening ...how can this woman think like this!!!wanting to feed the children dog food..i find it ignorant and down right inhuman [smiley=embarassed.gif]why dont she eat it...the waste and offal what goes in to dog food..what is she thinking!!  [smiley=huh.gif]
Title: Re: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: T.H.C on April 20, 2007, 11:56:34 AM
I think that she had nothing else but good intensions with that,,because if she would be a bad person she would not use THE NAME DOG FOOD and she would cover the name as something else and try to make a hero out of herself . . on nacional TV. . . and on the other hand she even eats that food herself and feeds it to her 2 childrens . . i am not saying that africans dont deserve the best like everyone else but even in my country(former yugoslavia) 60-years ago they were eating much worse things to survive and even 40 years ago was not pretty much better but if u are hungry u gotta eat to survive even bob marley in his young days in the words of rita marley "we had days searching for food in the dump. . "u can see people were prepared to do really anything to survive . . and my conclusion is if they dont want her "food" dont take it but please dont say she ha bad intensions. . . !!!PEACE FOR ALL !!! and i am sorry for al typing mistakes my mother language is not english and I epologize again . . ZBOGOM V MIRU
Title: Re: Dog Food for Kenyan Children?
Post by: PageantQueen on August 18, 2007, 07:01:34 PM
I was going to write a long story of how im in utterance of distguse for that woman but i cant cuz it would be too long! Lets pray for her!