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Title: The importance of St. George
Post by: plant_the_planet on September 10, 2004, 02:21:37 AM
"On November 2, 1930, Ras Tafari, a descendant in a line of 323 kings that followed the union of King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba, was crowned His Imperial Majesty and Emperor of Ethiopia. Ras Tafari took the name, Haile Selassie I, meaning "the Power of the Holy Trinity." Other titles he received that day were Lord of Lords, King of Kings, and Conquering Lion of Judah,- all taken from the Book of Revelations. The lavish ceremony was held in St. George's Cathedral in the Ethiopian capital. Addis Ababa, and was attended by representatives of all the great powers of the world. Haile Selassie I was the Emperor of Ethiopia, the only original African kingdom still free from colonial domination.

Born Ras Tafari, Haile Selassie traced His Lineage back to Menelik I, founder of the Solomonic Dynasty. Menelik was the son of Solomon and Sheba, Queen of Ethiopia. Solomon was the son of David. Thus Ras Tafari was the root of David. In his youth, Ras Tafari had been rumored to communicate with animals and possessed an uncanny knowledge of sacred Biblical texts kept hidden by priests of the Ethiopian Coptic Church. He said that the information came to him at the moment of his baptism. Ras Tafari had risen to power against great odds and had become even more of a world figure when he and Ethiopia stood against the forces of Fascism as Italy invaded with tanks, airplanes and poison gas at the beginning of World War II. He was so benevolent, that many defeated Italians chose to stay in Ethiopia after the war."

St. George-

"Pictures of St. George usually show him killing a dragon to rescue a beautiful lady. The dragon stands for wickedness. The lady stands for God's holy truth. St. George was a brave martyr who was victorious over the devil.
He was a soldier in the army of the Roman Emperor Diocletian, and he was one of the Emperor's favorite soldiers. Now Diocletian was a pagan and a bitter enemy to the Christians. He put to death every Christian he could find. George was a brave Christian, a real soldier of Christ. Without fear, he went to the Emperor and sternly scolded him for being so cruel. Then he gave up his position in the Roman army. For this he was tortured in many terrible ways and finally beheaded.
So boldly daring and so cheerful was St. George in declaring his Faith and in dying for it that Christians felt courage when they heard about it. Many songs and poems were written about this martyr. Soldiers, especially, have always been devoted to him.
We all have some "dragon" we have to conquer. It might be pride, or anger, or laziness, or greediness, or something else. Let us make sure we fight against these "dragons", with God's help. Then we can call ourselves real soldiers of Christ."

Selassie I
Title: Re: The importance of St. George
Post by: ArkI on September 10, 2004, 03:37:04 AM
Blessed Words
Title: Re: The importance of St. George
Post by: TREE-NATTY on April 04, 2006, 02:27:44 PM

That's not the true story of St. George. If that's the case why is St. George church in Ethiopia about a Roman solider? Romans never came into Ethiopia to spread christianity. Its the other way around. That story has nothing to do with Ethiopia or Rome. You need to find out where this picture comes from. Than you'll have the real reason why the picture is there. That story is much younger than the church in ET! So ethiopians built the church and romans interpreted it? That's backwards!

Title: Re: The importance of St. George
Post by: ArkI on April 07, 2006, 08:47:10 PM
I found something on the internet concerning St. George.  I am guessing that the story that you are refering to Tree-Natty is the story from Egypt.

Dragons were prominent in the mythologies both of the Near East and of Gaul and Northern Europe. In Egyptian religion, the serpent Apep was believed to lie in wait to destroy the sun god as he rose each morning. The god Aai is depicted holding Apep (Apopis) with a rope while he wove spells to paralyse the serpent. The crocodile god, Shesses, is also portrayed having a serpent's head. Likewise Anubis is portrayed bearing a cuirass and a spear. Horus was also seen as a dragon slayer. Some historians claim that the Ptolemaic Temple of Edfu in Egypt probably shows the origin of St. George's Legend in the bas-relief of 'Horus riding and killing Seth, the unknown animal'.  

Other parallels may be drawn with the myths of Bel and the Dragon, Apollo and Python, Osiris and Typhon, Perseus and Andromeda, and the story of the Hindu god Karttikeya.

Ark I
Haile Selassie I
Title: Re: The importance of St. George
Post by: TREE-NATTY on April 07, 2006, 11:14:43 PM

Very good Ark! All of those stories comes from Khamet and it is about Horus (HRU) slaying the snake APEP. The depliction of this represents a occurence everyday! What the picture is telling is that everyday morning before the sun hits the Horzion HRU fights APEP to bring RA from AMENTA (west). He does this by slaying APEP, who is deplicted as a wavey snake. An snake or dragon in Khamet was pictured wavey because the waves represent chaos, darkness, unbalance, and ignorance. And HRU or Christ in all of us is always fighting chaos within the world we are in. And this happens in creation every morning! Another picture at the Temple of Annu (Thebes) show Set/Typhon/Seth/Satan/lowerself in a barge or a boat when a person is traveling to the afterlife HRU sits infront of them in this boat to meet Ausar (Osirus) in Judgement Hall to make judgement of ones deeds by weighting ones heart against the feather of MA'AT (law of humanlife). You are than found worthy or unworthy by your ancestors! And Ausar gives your judgement whether if you enter into heaven or go back earth to do it all over again. Back to the boat. Set is at the front of the boat with a spear stabbing APEP. In which APEP wants to throw your soul into chaos before you reach Judgement Hall. This picture is VERY important about the science of one own mind, self, and spirit! Because even though we have this lower animal side to us, Set. He always fights for HRU and you because he is apart of us! Set does have a purpose within your lifetime. Basically this aspect of opposition/evil/ignorance/chaos needs to be harness and use for good! The question is how would you do it? Lol!
But yes St. George is two representations of HRU and SET fighting a wavey unbalance and chaotic snake. And I mention this before but I'l say it again.....

George(english).......Jorge(Latin).............Horus(greek)........HRU! The phonetics is there! Truth have to be truth on all sides!

HRU aka St. George!
Title: Re: The importance of St. George
Post by: surfmon_I on April 08, 2006, 07:58:15 AM
Greetings and many thanks, the knowledge i  pick up throught i quest is like the many points to a sphere. all en-compasing ,all- converging. thank you.
Title: Re: The importance of St. George
Post by: Nepsis on June 02, 2007, 03:53:09 AM
Thank Jah

Very informative thread.  I happen to have an Ethiopian blessing cross in my living room that made its way into my home via the wife of a russian orthodox priest.  This is handcarved and was used in the EOC on the African continent before it was given to a visitor as a gift.  I don't know how old it is, but it includes an icon of Dread St George in common traditional style.  There is also an icon of Christ on the lower half in Ethiopian style.  I hope this image blesses all the Is.


Posted on: June 01, 2007, 11:40:26 pm
I would also like to add that about 10 years ago I spent some time in a Coptic monastery in the southern californian desert with an Egyptian friend of mine.  We discussed the influence of pre-christian indigenous teachings on christianity, such as Horus.  It has been accepted since the beginning of the orthodox church that these personifications and principles of nature were prophetically identified by sages.  Wise people from all all around the world see the One Truth in themselves and the world around them.  In orthodox thought, these teachings and sacred stories prefigured the Christ written about in the orthodox new testament.  This is one of the reasons that orthodox churches are locally organized - they retain the cultural truths and ancient traditions of the local people.  So you have Syrian Orthodox, Indian Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, Greek Orthodox, Rum Orthodox, Coptic, Georgian, Armenian, Ugandan, Kenyan, Japanese etc...

The actual man that is St George was not a white or western Roman, he was a Palestinian Arab man, and Roman citizen serving in the army.  He chastised the emperor for persecuting Christians since it was an illegal faith under Roman law.  He quit the army out of protest and was tortured by orders of the emperor to try to get him to renounce his orthodox faith.  Slaying the dragon symbolizes his status as a warrior, but also his struggle to stand up for righteousness and not back down even under persecution.

There was much mutual exchange between the church in the middle east and the church in Egypt and through there all Africa.  The orthodox of north Africa recognized St George as a typological fulfillment of Horus and were drawn towards devotion to him.  So it is to this day, just as there is great devotion to him in Palestine and Lebanon.  Western european knowledge and devotion to him started hundreds of years later when the crusaders came  through the area.  The sad thing is that they misunderstood the significance of St George and instead saw him as a champion of their bloody conquest (which included attacks on the orthodox).

Love and respect!