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Title: Definition of Babylon
Post by: purplepanther on January 07, 2008, 04:05:28 PM
Greetings all, blessed love,

I am wondering if anyone can help me. . .  I have just translated a book called 'The Rasta Faith' from French to English and am now at the stage of inserting footnotes to explain certain words which might pose problems to the reader.  The brief was that the reader will have been exposed to lots of the dialect before but may not necessarily know why these words are used.  For example, if someone said, "Babylon came knocking on the door asking questions", they would know the person was talking about the police, but wouldn't know why the word Babylon was being used to replace it.  What i need is a very concise definition of 'Babylon' to put in the footnotes, no longer than 2 average sentences really.  I know this is not an easy task as i have tried myself but get too bogged down and end up writing too much.  On the other hand, the patois dictionary online doesn't really provide a sufficient explanation either.  Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance,

Until  :)
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: Oskar on January 07, 2008, 04:22:42 PM
Well, my input on the subject would be that the 'essence' of the meaning of the word Babylon would be any kind of oppressive force. The antonym would be freedom, liberty and equal rights.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: purplepanther on January 07, 2008, 05:16:27 PM
Quote from: Oskar link=topic=4858. msg67095#msg67095 date=1199722962
Well, my input on the subject would be that the 'essence' of the meaning of the word Babylon would be any kind of oppressive force.  The antonym would be freedom, liberty and equal rights.

Thanks for the response, Oskar.  So maybe i could put, ""The word Babylon here refers to any kind of oppressive force".  Perhaps i could add one more sentence about where it derives from, just to show that it is not a word that has been plucked from the sky.  Any ideas?
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: Oskar on January 07, 2008, 05:39:54 PM
You could try searching the bible. It is mentioned there plenty times. In short I would say that Babylon was/is wickedness that Almighty God destroyed/will destroy. Just my humble opinion.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: NyaInIJahLove on January 08, 2008, 03:09:47 AM
Yes  Revelations, 18 2 is good to meditate and contemplate on
In I sight one could see Babylon as a regime that prostitutes the sacred as "Babylon the Whore" is affiliated with "Mammon" -capitalism, worshipping the false god of materialism
Ones who work for this system put their paypacket and belief in security thru money above the Truth of Jah Word and Works thus worshipping false Idols and perpetuating downpression and misery for the ones enslaved, which in reality is even them, themselves as Babylon is a slaverdriver and denies basic human rights and righteous living
Babylon is also referred to as a feminine energy, similar to the Jezebel character in that She does not pay homage to Her Ivine Masculine Consort or consult him as in the original mistake by a feminine aspect of Prime Creator...
Remember the Original Babylon was once a great and beautiful city but lost  favour with the Israelites when King Nebuchadnezzar captured some of them and held them for a time...similar to how the Originally African Jamaicans may have felt when they were captured and taken to be slaves for the British (so-called) Christian Empire.
The Hebrew people were most likely referring to the Roman Empire in reference to Babylon in the New Testement, (namely Revelations) as things needed to be spoken of in a kind of code due to the extreme nature of the downpression at that time....
I hope this helps
OneLove
Sistren Nyah   
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: Oskar on January 08, 2008, 03:52:45 AM
Yes  Revelations, 18 2 is good to meditate and contemplate on
In I sight one could see Babylon as a regime that prostitutes the sacred as "Babylon the Whore" is affiliated with "Mammon" -capitalism, worshipping the false god of materialism
Ones who work for this system put their paypacket and belief in security thru money above the Truth of Jah Word and Works thus worshipping false Idols and perpetuating downpression and misery for the ones enslaved, which in reality is even them, themselves as Babylon is a slaverdriver and denies basic human rights and righteous living
Babylon is also referred to as a feminine energy, similar to the Jezebel character in that She does not pay homage to Her Ivine Masculine Consort or consult him as in the original mistake by a feminine aspect of Prime Creator...
Remember the Original Babylon was once a great and beautiful city but lost  favour with the Israelites when King Nebuchadnezzar captured some of them and held them for a time...similar to how the Originally African Jamaicans may have felt when they were captured and taken to be slaves for the British (so-called) Christian Empire.
The Hebrew people were most likely referring to the Roman Empire in reference to Babylon in the New Testement, (namely Revelations) as things needed to be spoken of in a kind of code due to the extreme nature of the downpression at that time....
I hope this helps
OneLove
Sistren Nyah   

Seen Nyah

That is a good post

Ises
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: Peace_Loving on January 09, 2008, 12:14:51 PM
Babylon is evil and all that it oppresses.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: rootsridge on January 09, 2008, 06:38:32 PM
he is a question that i was asking.

does police necessarily mean babylon.

now think of it, if there was'nt police, there would be so so much crime violence,

don't get me wrong i dnt agree with how the police use their justice system.  but i think the idea is a needed one. and there is a video on youtube about rasta police in n.england i belive


bless
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: Nepsis on September 08, 2008, 05:54:54 PM
Jealous imitation unto violent aggression.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: RAS GROWSTRONG on September 09, 2008, 11:53:33 PM
the city Babylon was erected by the Cushite people under the leadership of Nimrod ... Nimrod is of Ham seed
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: Human on September 10, 2008, 03:28:24 PM
There is no definition outside of Rasta usage for it, it was simply a way of describing people, systems, ways in relation to the bible story in which the hebrews were held in captivity and dealing similarly how rastas deal and see the modern world. My understanding of the definition concerning Rasta usage.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: RAS GROWSTRONG on September 10, 2008, 05:49:21 PM
Babylon is also the first place Israel/Judah is enslaved by the Ashkenazi (gentile) reference Jeremiah 51:27 read the whole chapter
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 12, 2008, 09:48:24 PM
the first place Israel/Judah is enslaved by the Ashkenazi

This is not a "Ras" overstanding. And neither is that which does not speak against it.

There is no definition outside of Rasta usage for it, it was simply a way of describing people, systems, ways in relation to the bible story in which the hebrews were held in captivity and dealing similarly how rastas deal and see the modern world. My understanding of the definition concerning Rasta usage.

What makes this standing "under" is that Babylon is not "simply a way of describing" but is the same system "dealing" with the same people the Ible speaks of.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: Higginz on September 12, 2008, 10:10:23 PM
I overstanding is that Babylon is all which cuts down I and Is freedom or right. Example: Police nah let me smoke Ghanja on the day of Sabbath is to oppress I man. That to me is behavior I define as babylonian.

I say it's a force that uses its superior power over the Individual rasta to oppress his rights.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: RAS GROWSTRONG on September 21, 2008, 09:00:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UgCs3d9xMc

check 1:06 then search out who Japhete is

 2The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras.

 3And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah.

 4And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim.

 5By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.

Japhete son Gomer had son Ashkenaz which attacked Israel at Babylon stole culture Steel Pulse real rasta singing about Japhete??? Correction Ras see and know ...  also read Revelation 20:8


Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 21, 2008, 09:24:07 PM
Ashkenazim are called so because they were exiled in the land of Ashkenaz, NOT because they are Japhetic.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: Human on September 21, 2008, 11:47:12 PM
There is no definition outside of Rasta usage for it, it was simply a way of describing people, systems, ways in relation to the bible story in which the hebrews were held in captivity and dealing similarly how rastas deal and see the modern world. My understanding of the definition concerning Rasta usage.


What makes this standing "under" is that Babylon is not "simply a way of describing" but is the same system "dealing" with the same people the Ible speaks of.


No, the people now are not the same people as then, there not as foolish to accept things so blindly as then, so quick to listen to others like you feel they should do to you, so un-educated as then and illiterate, so under the yoke of so called elders and holy priests, no, they are not the same people today as then, but you are.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 22, 2008, 12:25:58 AM
Who needs a definition when we have a "living" example?
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: Human on September 22, 2008, 12:28:15 AM
considering were talking about a word that expresses negativity and oppression and aggression, yes you are a living example, sad we know, but scared lonely people such as yourself tend to express it in such ways. One day you will learn about the real Rasta, not the one that brings you to such low levels of maturity and anger all the time, good luck i hope you find him.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 22, 2008, 01:17:10 AM
"I admit whole heartidely that my actions are foolish. I have lowered myself which is not fair to everyone else here"
-Babylon






Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: Human on September 22, 2008, 01:22:33 AM
LOL, yes those are my words, but, to use them out of context is childish of you Elijah. Those words i expressed were for my actions towards YOU, for the words i used towards YOU, which was not fair for the people here to have to keep listening to over and over in OUR posts to each other, NOT because it was oppresion and aggresion towards the people here, NEGATIVITY yes i will agree with that one, it takes a man to do that, one day you may become one.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 22, 2008, 01:41:02 AM
Only words kept require manhood.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: RAS GROWSTRONG on September 22, 2008, 11:15:56 PM
Ashkenazim are called so because they were exiled in the land of Ashkenaz, NOT because they are Japhetic.

Can you build on this?
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 22, 2008, 11:23:34 PM
All Jews are descended from SHEM. Some Jews are called "ashkenazi" because after Rome invaded Jerusalem they moved to the land of Ashkenaz(white japhetic people/germany). Because the skin tone of the ashkenazi have been most mixed up with the outsiders and effected by the cold, many Rasta have targeted them as imposters. But having kept I and I trodition so completely surrounded by babylon its We Fiyah the Hottest.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: RAS GROWSTRONG on September 22, 2008, 11:36:53 PM
One Love Brethren, We are all brothers Japhete, Shem, Ham accordingly Sons of Noah according to scripture ...  building on this is not Germany for Gomer and the land of Ashkenaz in between Black Sea and Caspian Sea at Mount Caucus?
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 22, 2008, 11:58:46 PM
Geographic locations are insignificant in light of genetics. Yet none of it explains the folly of your declaring that "Israel was enslaved by the Askenazi" Which refers to Jews not Aryans. We got the scar to prove it. :)
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: RAS GROWSTRONG on September 23, 2008, 12:17:56 AM
all ancient maps I find point this out Ashkenaz at Mount Caucus.  It seems to make since considering Jeremiah 51:27 states the people of Ararat went with Ashkenaz to attack Israel at Babylon. Mount Ararat is at base of Mount Caucus.

Does your information state Gomer is Germany? 

They may have already been mixed with Ashkenaz before exile considering the massacre of Israel happen at least 700 years prior to exile according to scripture.

Onelove Brethren nuff sufferation  Bless up!
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 23, 2008, 12:27:33 AM
My information states Gomer is a man.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: Oskar on September 23, 2008, 12:43:28 AM
Geographic locations are insignificant in light of genetics.

Genetics are important in the sense that historically the movements of people can be somehow traced. Deriving any spiritual value from this fleshly attribute is sidetrack however since God don't judge us based on who our parents are.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: RAS GROWSTRONG on September 23, 2008, 12:49:44 AM
Genesis clearly state Gomer represents a Nation Genesis 10:2-5

Yes I should have used term Captives instead of enslaved Jeremiah 52:28 states captives indeed at Babylon from Ashkenazi attack ... to me captives seem like slaves consider Jeremiah's writings in Lamentations 5:11-16 he seems to describe things as slavery my folly

Talmud info on Gomer as Germany
http://bible.ort.org/books/Torahd5.asp?action=displayid&id=237

Overcoming Babylon all of the Sons of Noah duty ...

Nuff Respect, OneLove Brethren


Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 23, 2008, 01:03:50 AM
Genesis: The sons of Japheth; Gomer...

English definition of Son: A male child;

God don't judge us based on who our parents are.

Seen, That just determines who the G-d that judges is.
Posted on: September 23, 2008, 01:57:55 AM
Further more where are you finding the word "Ashkenazi" to refer anyone making Israel captive? The only information I have refers to JEWS! Do the duppy twist! No "brethren" of mine.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: RAS GROWSTRONG on September 23, 2008, 01:19:16 AM
Brethren my Bible states fully ...

Genesis 10:2-5 (King James Version)

 2The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras.

 3And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah.

 4And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim.

 5By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.

In addition this section of scripture is called the table of nations. If you get singular man out of this well that may be folly on your part.

The faculty to reason is truly Jah Blessing.

One love to all the Brethren of Japhete Shem and Ham.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 23, 2008, 01:27:07 AM
There is significance to a period.

Genesis 10:2-5 (King James Version)

 2The sons of Japheth(who you claim is a son "person" of Noah); Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras.

Period.(son;a male offspring) I did not say that Gomer was not also a nation. But most primarily the bible clearly states he is a man. A Son. This is the difference between people who read the bible and people who are the bible. Something only Rastafari really knows about anyway, No surprise its lack at Nick's the duppy wonderland then.

 
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: Oskar on September 23, 2008, 01:58:58 AM
Seen, That just determines who the G-d that judges is.

The G-d that judges is not dependent on who our parents are.


No surprise its lack at Nick's the duppy wonderland then.

We just got a schooling on it still you claim its lack. The duppy twist is all yours.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 23, 2008, 03:34:18 AM
The G-d that judges is not dependent on who our parents are.


Your parents? Certainly not.

Quote
We just got a schooling on it still you claim its lack.


Rastafari, the only teacher, Does not represent this bloodclot.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: Oskar on September 23, 2008, 07:19:25 AM
Your parents? Certainly not.

I was speaking generally. God is not dependent on anyones parents.


Rastafari, the only teacher, Does not represent this bloodclot.

I guess that is why the teachings lack and the "cursing" take over.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 23, 2008, 08:30:35 AM
God don't judge us based on who our parents are.

G-d judgement is based in who our parents are. Which is why bloodlines are significant and some people must be second born to rise.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: Oskar on September 23, 2008, 09:01:42 AM
We are judged by our actions. I think babylon is looking for any excuse to not be accountable for the wrongdoing. Babylon is not the judge nor authority though.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 23, 2008, 03:15:21 PM
We are judged by our actions.

Also our thoughts, words, believes, and sentiments.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: Oskar on September 24, 2008, 02:55:01 AM
Also our thoughts, words, believes, and sentiments.

True, there is no thing hidden from God.

To get back to the definition of babylon: Babylon is man trying to be as powerful as God.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 24, 2008, 11:15:12 PM
I think babylon is looking for any excuse to not be accountable for the wrongdoing.

How does this relate to the bloodline we were discussing?
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: Oskar on September 25, 2008, 02:52:05 AM
How does this relate to the bloodline we were discussing?

Bloodline and racism both look to physical traits to define the quality of man while the main faculty is a spiritual thing.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 25, 2008, 06:18:10 AM
In this context a Bloodline does not seek to establish the quality of a man, but the Spiritual quality within and ascendant to a man.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: Oskar on September 25, 2008, 07:39:29 AM
In this context a Bloodline does not seek to establish the quality of a man, but the Spiritual quality within and ascendant to a man.

If the Spiritual quality within is what is important then what is the relation to and importance of the physicality of a bloodline?
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 25, 2008, 05:19:41 PM
It is a Transmission Method of Indispensable Functional Importance.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: Oskar on September 26, 2008, 02:37:19 AM
It is a Transmission Method of Indispensable Functional Importance.

Spirit dwells in the flesh yet is not bound by it. It is one spirit too so no matter how you breed the flesh it don't change the one spirit.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 26, 2008, 02:51:42 AM
Spirit requires certain flesh to dwell in.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: Oskar on September 26, 2008, 09:01:27 AM
Spirit requires certain flesh to dwell in.

Clean hands and a pure heart is not acquired through a blood line. Take a look at Cain and Able.

Any talk about certain bloodline being better or more pure than the next one is nothing but tribalism and racism.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: Higginz on September 26, 2008, 12:47:35 PM
I and I is not born with it. It is what I and I make it.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 26, 2008, 03:19:03 PM
Clean hands and a pure heart is not acquired through a blood line.


But a bloodline is acquired through clean hands and a pure heart.

Quote
Any talk about certain bloodline being better or more pure than the next one is nothing but tribalism and racism.

No, As as in more pure and better in spiritual faculty, It is the reality of the Rastafarian Faith that is rejected by enemy who seek to prevent its dissemination for their envy and their aggressive nature on account of the absence of the said fact.

I and I is not born with it.

No, I and I is born with it. Some I just reborn with it.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: RAS GROWSTRONG on September 27, 2008, 07:14:26 AM
You nsinu8 in your writings that Ashkenazi is a Son only and not a Nation even brought forward son definition as though to suggest what?

Twisted? You state, “Ashkenazim are called so because they were exiled in the land of Ashkenaz, NOT because they are Japhetic.” When did this happen? Ashkenaz land is between the Black Sea and Caspian Sea at Mount Caucus. When Ashkenazi left Rome they went to Germany which is Land of Gomer.  According to Talmud Germany is Gomer, Land of Gomer. Using your logic they should be called Gomer Jews …

You would like to trace Ashkenazi Jew origins back to the Medieval time period but scripture dictates Babylon. Jeremiah clearly states; Jeremiah 51:27 Ashkenazi were there putting in work … are you suggesting they went to war on Israel won the war and left with no booty … Jeremiah says they the attackers took  stole and raped.
 
Birth control was not big back then so a raped Israelite woman would produce a little Ashkenazi/Jew hence the record unfolds. You should dig into Book of Ezra for more on the mixing with the Gentile issue.  No doubt mixing continued in Rome but to suggest that cold weather had any input is just duppy. Remeber the Eskimos dark skin people living in cold 1000 years plus

Furthermore within the house of Israel members have been called Jews, Hebrews and by individual tribe names.

This is a lie, “Because the skin tone of the ashkenazi have been most mixed up with the outsiders and effected by the cold, many Rasta have targeted them as imposters.

They are imposters because they don’t accept the foundational order of things therefore never allowing peace to come forward always arguing when the scripture is clear. your branch of understanding keep tension on planet its that pride of life ...  Jeremiah 16:19

Your emotional tie to Ashkenazim seems more genetic then merely migrational as you have suggested hence one would not be so flagrant. Huh?
 
I could overstand how you would want to dismiss this Bible record.
Posted on: September 27, 2008, 08:03:35 AM
What Babylon has to offer all Sons of Noah ... Lust of the Flesh, Lust of the Eye and the Pride of Life.

Beware of Babylon the Mother of all Harlots ... Peace to the Sons of Noah we need each other ... OneBlood


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnIl1kiShfY
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 27, 2008, 11:09:50 AM
Flagrant; From the Latin; to Burn.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: Higginz on September 27, 2008, 09:19:56 PM
No, I and I is born with it. Some I just reborn with it.

I can agree that I can be reborn with it, but I have to make I own life and follow RasTafarI righteousness whether I am born with it or not. For it can still be corrupted.

My point being: Flesh is born as a Vehicle to soul, no more. The flesh can be born with beauty, ugliness, disease, or a multitude of other blessings and curses. But it can't be born with righteousness. This I have to earn through the Bible, Selassie, and the teachings of RasTafarI.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 28, 2008, 04:06:00 AM
Using your opportunity of expression to articulate a point in which there is here no stated disagreement, You not only fail to earn that of what you speak by neglecting to eradicate the oppressive racism for which you become complicit through partaking of its medium without objection, But proactively encourage aggression towards righteousness when intertwining it's mention with your hypocrisy.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: Higginz on September 28, 2008, 07:03:30 PM
Using your opportunity of expression to articulate a point in which there is here no stated disagreement, You not only fail to earn that of what you speak by neglecting to eradicate the oppressive racism for which you become complicit through partaking of its medium without objection, But proactively encourage aggression towards righteousness when intertwining it's mention with your hypocrisy.

Please, Idren. Do not deem me righteous or un-righteous, that is not your right to do. And what I am expressing is certainly not racism. To say that all are born equal is not racism, Idren.

There was indeed a stated disagreement, being: You say some are born with it, or reborn. I say, no I are born with it. Some I can be reborn with it, but they can still be corrupted. No I gets to zion because they were born better.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 28, 2008, 08:16:03 PM
I say, no I are born with it.

Which just goes to show that you do not even know what the "it" you claim I's are reborn with is.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: Higginz on September 29, 2008, 07:16:42 PM
Which just goes to show that you do not even know what the "it" you claim I's are reborn with is.

Obviously, I have misunderstood something, apologies and respect.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 30, 2008, 02:48:52 AM
Raspect to the I.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: Knowledge on March 10, 2009, 02:24:29 PM
The definition of Babylon is

The System, it's corrupt practice and manipulative control.
It includes societies, groups and individuals who consciously (or unconsciously)
work to perpetuate the corrupt practices that are inherent in the function of process
within that materially negative/wicked system!

Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: ke on March 11, 2009, 11:55:26 PM
right now for me its the police and the system
its all built up of lies nd trickery
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: natty threads on March 12, 2009, 01:56:55 AM

ke,

Fire burns,
Cars are real,
Police are the enemy,
And you cannot fly.

Bless up.

(You might want to look up the fact that you have "Oppositional defiance disorder."

IE- you do not "Eat shit and smile.")

A)  Police lie.
B)  The judges know the police are lying.

Since my mother is a retired judge, and I know defendants more intimately than most, I can attest that this is fact.

The fact that you did not actually do something is NOT considered a valid defense.

F~ me running- Say what???

Yep.

Not having actually done the act of which one is accused is NOT a valid defense under the law in many cases.

Live free or die.

Bless up.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: Knowledge on March 12, 2009, 11:48:24 AM
Ke

Babylon is the system, Police and Judges is just one aspect of it.
You refer to them as Babylon because they are the ones you may come into contact with
but there are lots of agents of babylon, both conscious and unconscious.

You have to realise that the whole system is designed to perpetuate the agenda, and there
are many who are enslaved to one or many, or in some cases all aspects of the system, The minute
you start to think to chant down babylon,  bun down rome you become a problem. because you start to realise that we are living within a very
vast and sophisticated prison!

As they say -Temet Noscet -
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: Human on March 12, 2009, 12:39:57 PM
"Fire burns,
Cars are real,
Police are the enemy,
And you cannot fly."

Burning bushes dont talk
men dont walk on water
women dont just give birth
water cant be changed into wine
and the dead cant be raised from there graves


Just thought i would add a few more FACTS to eradicate Babylons System of control.
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: ke on March 16, 2009, 11:00:34 PM
seen,
thanks for the guidance
Title: Re: Definition of Babylon
Post by: prophet777 on March 21, 2009, 11:17:12 PM
Babylon is everything that is wicked - therefor babylon is wickedness.

P7