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Title: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: RubADubDub on April 01, 2008, 01:19:00 AM
Hey all. I went out recently and purchased what I consider MY first bible and that of my family's (my girl and I are due in late May/early June..Gemini like me!). It is a Bible from the 20's translated from the Hebrew Old Testament by some Jewish scholars in NY. Anyways... it is strictly Old Testament being a Jewish publication... and after reading upon it for some time I went and started reading some New Testament. It seems to me more than ever  that in the OT, men and women were all children of God... yet in the NT, things switched and now Christ is the only child of God and we are all children of Christ. This has been disturbing me a little since it has never been so clear to me the obvious shift of doctrine (all the Bible's I've had up to this point have been either KJV or NIV... where it seems they try to blur the lines between OT and NT). Anyways, I was just wondering how all you feel about what I'm thinkin. Let me preface your responses by sayin I'm not a Ras, nor am I Christian or follower of any set faith (not that Ras is a ism of the sorts Christianity is).
Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 01, 2008, 03:41:30 AM
I sight it. Iverything changed. But its sealed, meaning JAH have foreknowledge of all. So CHRIST come but within the Iternal Plan of the Almighty, Nothing Changed. Its the Free Will Illusion Question.  Bless
Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: natty threads on April 01, 2008, 03:56:41 AM
PLEASE read the Bible, OT, NT, Torah, all of it, with the mind that "Love one another as I have loved you. This is the Law and the Prophets" in mind.

It took me a long time, but now I see that the OT and the NT are exactly the same.

ALL of the apostles were Jews and good Jews at that. They ALL respected Yah and they ALL loved Him above all else.
NONE supposed that Jesus should ever take the place of God any more than Abraham (OOPS- that pesky Brahma thing), Isaac, or Jacob should, any more than Gabriel or Michael should.

JESUS was here to get people to follow the Torah.


If they were all children of God how did the sons of God marry the daughters of men leading to the Flood?

The OT is the story of God's chosen people, the Israelites.

Jesus, the Living Word of God- the Logos, is the only begotten Son of God.
Jesus is also the rock Moses struck for water in the desert and the Amen in Revelation- the root of all Creation.

We are NOT the children of God.
We are a creation of God MADE in His image.

I don't read that we are children of Christ in the NT.

We are children with respect to truth- we don't know much and aren't capable of much understanding, for the most part.

We are completed in Christ- that is what "perfect" means in the bible- it means "complete"- nothing more nothing less.

The whole "Children of Christ" thing seems to me to be a new agey spin on what the Bible is really trying to say, another one of those pagan lies that insinuates itself into Christianity.


Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: surfmon_I on April 01, 2008, 05:48:33 AM

>>> Its the Free Will Illusion Question.<<<
 Bredren Elijah, could the I please expand on this?.
Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: Human on April 01, 2008, 02:59:32 PM
Your questioning things such as this RubAdub is good, questioning things inside is valuable to ones strength, you will get only ones view on here as they see it or fear it im afraid. You will get a christian view by those who are christian and a Distinction view by those who see a distinction of two different books. So my advice to you is question it deep inside and eventually you will come to or find an answer that best feels right to you. If you ask 5 people you will more than likely get 5 different responses so my best advice is to answer it inside yourself and not worry what others think of it, it doesn't matter anyway what they think, only what you think. Take care.
Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: Imanvex on April 02, 2008, 02:34:19 PM
natty threads ur are on point u are right
Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: Ras Adam on April 02, 2008, 06:03:45 PM
BLESSED Love.
Iman totally agree with you.
In the Tanakh (Old Testament) we are learning that man and woman are HUMANKIND. But that men should wear head covering while praying etc.
In the New Testament, it is said that a man, who prays with head covering, prays in shame. And a woman who doesn't pray with head covering prays in shame. That's just false and wrong teaching. If one says this, He also says that Moses, and all the people of Israel, didn't overstand the law right.

Personally I don't like Paul. Not only because I'm not christian, also because He brakes down the early christianity and babylonize it, makes it evil. He started the christian antisemitism as well.

FYAH bun ignorance and false teaching.
Respect unto all conscious and righteous "nazarene" christians.
ONE.
Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 02, 2008, 07:13:11 PM
What I'm talking about free will/illusion it that prophetically everything is preordained. The important thing to realize here is that I and I read the New Testament in a post apocalyptic world. Iverything we know about the Bible must align with the truth that Rastafari is Christ. So what Paul was dealing with in those times is relative to what I and I know about These times. In those times it was a shame for men to cover the head and women not. But Now We see that Judah Conquer. The Ancient of Days come to correct the order like it was in the beginning. The time of the gentiles was predestined. Pauls teaching was correct relative to the fufillment of JAH's plan but not ultimate.
Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: RubADubDub on April 03, 2008, 03:11:55 AM
Natty threads - you mentioning "in His image" brings up another question I have... what is your definition of "in His image"? Also, what is the difference in your mind between being children of God, and being made in "His image"? My interpretation of the in His image thing is that we are His children, and even more, we are Him. Not fully or individually, but collectively and positively.
Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: Ras Adam on April 03, 2008, 03:24:41 PM
Brother Elijah
Iman overstand what you say, but still.
It has never been part of JAH plan to get jews down.
And it is never okay, to not cover the head when praying..
Just my opinion.

BLESSED ONENESS
Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 03, 2008, 05:44:02 PM
It has never been part of JAH plan to get jews down.
And it is never okay, to not cover the head when praying..

No? But you yourself said JAH put the jews in slavery in Babylon for their sin. Now we see that the Holocaust was like one big crucifiction. LOL. Only through two thousand years of exile is the plan complete. Jews and the Jewish essence of Christianity had to be rejected until Selassie came.  When Paul say it was a shame for man to cover the head he was speaking of societies perception of dat.  Its a mitzvah to cover the head but the higher law overcome all. But u still working with an OT perspective so i dont expect u to agree, Its just nice to know someone is listening.
Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: Imanvex on April 04, 2008, 02:19:06 PM
RESPECT TO RAS ADAMS but as ur brother ur going off, when u read in the old testament about a man covering up his head THAT WAS ONLY FOR THE PRIESTS, so the levi preists had to cover up their head
because they are not aloud to show their head when praying or prophecying, when we who are NOT levi
priests, WE ARE NOT ALoud to cover our HEAD as men, because we are NOT PRIESTS, i hope that helped
you and u didnt take no disrespect, can any tell me how to take dwn dis blaasted womans picture of my
page and replace it?
Posted on: April 04, 2008, 01:55:00 pm
and when the preists cover up their head it aint no damme little thing wat looks like a plait on their head
like dem "so called" jews they wraped their head properly with a turban like capleton or sizzla, coz dem
so called jews aint the real jews their imposters, the, real jews are BLACK

Jeremiah 14 vs 2 JUDAH mourneth, and the gates thereof languish; they are BLACK unto the ground; and the cry of Jerusalem is gone up.
lamentations 5 vs 10 Our skin was BLACK like an oven because of the terrible famine.
Revelation 1 vs 11The Revelation of Jesus Christ (Yahawashi Mashayach) vs 14 His head and his hairs were white like WOOL (he had white wooly hair like all old black men), as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;  15And his FEET like unto fine brass (brass is brown), as if they BURNED in a FURNACE (he was very dark skinned)
lets look at what god (Yahawah looks like) Daniel 7 vs 9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the THE HAIR OF HIS HEAD LIKE THE PURE WOOL (black man hair texture) so who are these fake jews then who are not black
Revelations 2 vs 9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (because of the slavery and everything) but thou art rich (because the kingdom of heaven is ours) and I know the BLASHPEMY (wicked lie) of them WHICH SAY THEY ARE JEWS (white jewish wannabe) AND ARE NOT, but are the synagogue of SATAN.
Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 04, 2008, 04:15:49 PM
Why do the heathen vex and imagine a vain thing?
Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: Ras Adam on April 04, 2008, 04:40:41 PM
Yes I Respect Elijah I.
If Holocaust was JAH works, well, then He didn't destroy us all, so in any cases, He don't want us to fade away. Respect brethren.
--------------------------

@Imanvex:  Sorry, but maybe you need some help, not I...
The reason that it is a mitzvah in tradition, is that in the torah we hear about Moses. When He speak with Adonai, He covers his head in "fear" - Respect.
Just go on and call us jews impostors and all that, it doesn't change us. As long as you don't promote antisemitism I'm all right.
I don't know if you know, but there is many different "races" of jews.. Blacks, whites, reds - so on.
There is some Iriginal jews in Ithiopia, for example.
Please don't teach me about Judaism and head covering, bredrin.. ;)
Sometimes I think it could be very good for Christians to read the Talmud.. That is wisdom.
About the "real jews are black"-talk, Ive got some things to say:
Yes I, some jews are black, and maybe they wrote some of the scriptures. And look at all religious sects and ism's. They search the Ible to find a truth, that fits them self. That is dangerous. KKK also uses the New Testament to show that Jesus was/is white... And so on.. Good to keep in mind.

And one more thing - Iman don't hate Satan. But we are not the synagogue of him. We accept him as what He is - the accuser. JAH the judge.
Always remember, jews can't be convinced by NT-scripture, as long as we are traditional orthodox jews.
Blessed Love - Oneness
Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 04, 2008, 05:06:30 PM
"As long as he don't promote anti-semitism" wha?

What do you think all this is? I see the "funny little jew boy" having a peek. The real question is what does any of this have to do with Jamaica? Propaganda and black nationalism. Its always the "white wannabe jews" that all these "rasta's" love to hate on. And every one just sits around and twiddles their thumbs. Its all bullshit hype. Their "knowledge" is racist speculation. They premising Iblical law on sizzla and capelton, This is seriously the level these people are on. But when the truth comes down they end up back in the congo west africa worshiping blocks of wood.
Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: Human on April 04, 2008, 06:29:00 PM
 :-*
Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 04, 2008, 06:35:40 PM
Yes that's what outclassed little boys do when their immature racist ignorance is exposed. Taunt, and try to make light as if their violence is somehow Icceptable. Whats worse is that u so called rasta's are so blase you cant be literally bothered to lift a finger!! LOLOL
Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: Ras Adam on April 04, 2008, 06:49:41 PM
Actually, Brother Elijah, Iman agree with the I..
Iman just meant that, if people call I&I this and that, it doesn't change that we are The Jews. JAH know. God knows. It's right that there is antisemitic movements in rastafari-movements.
Blessed Love.
Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: Human on April 04, 2008, 07:01:24 PM
Lol, violence...lol. Im lifting a finger, guess which one it is.
Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: paco on April 05, 2008, 12:24:17 AM

  ese, you talkin bout stuff like this? watcha


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=296763102414064213&q=x-clan&total=1063&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: Nepsis on April 05, 2008, 07:14:19 PM
Christmas 1967 in a radio interview HIM Haile Selassie I had this to say:

"I have the highest respect for the Bible as a whole.  I also recognize the rightful name the Bible bears.  We find that in all the periods of the Old Testament, in the time of patriarchs, kings, and prophets, great miracles were done.  On the other hand, the New Testament in which our Lord himself gave the command to go into all the world and to preach is also of high value.  Then Mathew, Mark, Luke and John, the four Gospels, in which the sayings of our Lord are recorded are pillars for all men on the earth.  Therefore the bible should not be cut into portions."

Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 05, 2008, 08:17:02 PM
  ese, you talkin bout stuff like this? watcha


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=296763102414064213&q=x-clan&total=1063&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0


Marcus Garvey's a Start. He was of course a Christian.  In an Iritual sense, man cannot see his destiny if looking linearly.  
Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: natty threads on April 05, 2008, 08:48:49 PM
BLESSED Love.
Iman totally agree with you.
In the Tanakh (Old Testament) we are learning that man and woman are HUMANKIND. But that men should wear head covering while praying etc.
In the New Testament, it is said that a man, who prays with head covering, prays in shame. And a woman who doesn't pray with head covering prays in shame. That's just false and wrong teaching. If one says this, He also says that Moses, and all the people of Israel, didn't overstand the law right.

Personally I don't like Paul. Not only because I'm not christian, also because He brakes down the early christianity and babylonize it, makes it evil. He started the christian antisemitism as well.

FYAH bun ignorance and false teaching.
Respect unto all conscious and righteous "nazarene" christians.
ONE.

Okay.
I am not disagreeing.
Formerly non-believers, women especially, do NOT like Paul, as a rule.

THIS is what I think though may be true...

I heard a preacher on TV discuss this from Corinthians- and he was saying that Paul is not talking about the actual physical headscarf but had gone allegorical and was referring to men ONLY subjecting themselves to YAH and never to another man, such as a "church leader" of some kind.

Paul's point, accordingly, was that a man is shamed if he defers to another man and does not deal directly with God and make his own decisions.

Women are supposed to be subject to their fathers and then to their husbands when they marry.

That's a hard bitter apple to chew too, but I do believe it is true.
I'm certainly happier putting my husband first.

And I think the passage really does refer to prophesying and not just praying.
Of course anyone can pray in any way at any time.

Otherwise, the apostle Paul made me chafe for years.

He was a very knowledgeable Pharisee.
He was famous for this.
It was his pride and refusal to accept gentiles and especially Christians that put him in the position he was in, being forced to minister to (serve) them/us. Though he sometimes seems to be turning us toward paganism, it is hard to believe that Paul would go that way.

****shrugs****

BLESS UP ANYWAY!!!!!

:)
Posted on: April 05, 2008, 09:37:15 pm
Natty threads - you mentioning "in His image" brings up another question I have... what is your definition of "in His image"? Also, what is the difference in your mind between being children of God, and being made in "His image"? My interpretation of the in His image thing is that we are His children, and even more, we are Him. Not fully or individually, but collectively and positively.

I don't know the Hebrew, but I know there is a distinction or it wouldn't be made.

"In His image"- in the image of what?
We cannot look upon Yah.
It would kill us.
So that cannot be it.

In His Mind?
First formed in His Mind and then formed from clay, as we also image in our mind a sculpture before we pick up the clay and form it?

What is the difference between your artwork and your child?

I'm certainly not the answer man.

These things I do know:

We are the special creation of a loving God.
We are not an alien genetics experiment.
We did not evolve.

We all end up believing what we want to believe, seen?
So decide what makes you happiest and how you can make sense of it, and then QUIT WORRYING about it.

Easier said than done.

Bless up!
Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: NyaInIJahLove on April 06, 2008, 07:26:22 AM
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=tBcS9Ljqa6E
Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: Imanvex on April 07, 2008, 01:19:20 PM
firstly ras adams, im  not going to read a wicked book like the talud, it promotes peodophile, and such wicked ttings een deh, because i have looked at a few wicked passages in there, lastly the TRUE JEWS will not be white Isaiah 29 vs 22 Therefore this is what the LORD, who redeemed Abraham, says to the house of Jacob (Israel):
"No longer will Jacob be ashamed; no longer will their FACES GROW PALE.

ras adams are u teacvhing that the most high true children are the so called west indians, afro americans etc

and lastly the most high is a racist himself, Romans 9 vs 13Just as it is written: "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated." (esau is the farther of all white people) 14What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! 15For he says to Moses,
   "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: NegusNegustiality on April 07, 2008, 03:01:46 PM
Ises,
Elijah you should watch yuh mouth about how you refer to foundation Rases because Ini know you woulda never trod a Yard and speak so!  You consistently diss the "western hemisphere Afreecans" specifically the Jamaicans ones who sacrificed everything to hail HIM, while there wasn't a soul in "Israel" even thinking about King Selassie I or His cause, pre 1948 or post.  The fact is that Afreeca is the first, nothing older than Kemet (Egypt/Ethiopia), so to dis Bobo Ashanti is to just fling lava pon yuhself!  We nah tek check from arrogant doctrinally confused "Panamanian Israeli", Ini bun dem out straight.  From longtime Ini try the diplomacy method with the I but you still a chat sideways, spouting off with your opinions as though they are absolute truth.  You never trod a Nyabinghi with the folishness you spew?  Which Ilebration you attend with dem vibes?  There even came a time when Tafari Makonnen haffi brush Lidj Iyahsu because him nah cease with the foolishness, seen.  You nuh like the vibes, try some humility, tact and Iniversal raspect. 

inHIM
Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: Imanvex on April 07, 2008, 03:40:26 PM
ill tell u why, because the Jamaicans and the whole west indians, black americans, are the TRUE CHILDREN
OF ISRAEL, and if u say its not the most high plan to put the jews through the holocost then u dont know
the bible,LAMENTATIONS 2 vs 2 The LORD hath swallowed up all the habitations of Jacob, and hath not pitied: he hath thrown down in his wrath the strong holds of the daughter of Judah; he hath brought them down to the ground: he hath polluted the kingdom and the princes thereof. 
which hollocost are u talking, coz if ur refering to what hitler did to the so called jews then ur
a joke, the REAL HOLOCOST is what happend to us blacks in slavery, over 100,000 000 million of us
perished and 6 million of u wannabe jewish perished by ur own people, coz hitler was a so called jew himself, theres no way u can compare what we have been through and what any other nation has been through
LAMENNTATION 2 VS 13 What thing shall I take to witness for thee? what thing shall I liken to thee, O daughter of Jerusalem? what shall I equal to thee, that I may comfort thee, O virgin daughter of Zion? for thy breach is great like the sea: who can heal thee?
No nation can equal to what we have been though as the scriptures coz our breeach is BIG LIKE THE SEA.

u dont know the scriptures and maybe thats because ur not an real Israelite because the MOST HIGH IS ONLY DEALING WITH HIS PEOPLE ISRAEL,
AMOS 3 VS 1 Hear this word that the LORD hath spoken against you, O children of Israel, against the whole family which I brought up from the land of Egypt, saying,  YOU ONLY have I known of ALLl the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.
PSALMS 147 vs 19He sheweth his word unto Jacob, his statutes and his judgments unto Israel.
 20He hath not dealt so with any nation: and as for his judgments, they have not known them. Praise ye the LORD.

so stop yuh foolishness bwoy

Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: Ras Adam on April 07, 2008, 05:25:28 PM
@Imanvex:
About the passage; Isaiah 29 vs 22. It's not about skin-color. All that skin-color misinterpretations has always been a help for all racists, a comfort to a racist. Let me tell you one thing; the Bible, both the Old and New Testament is much of the time NOT literally, just I sight.. Always remember that KKK uses the Ible to tell the youths and fools that God and Jesus is white..   Just food for thought... Black and white racists should unite, they act the same...

And no, I don't teach that blacks are the true children of God, just as I don't teach the whites are...

Again, about the Romans chapter, firstly, Iman don't sight the New Testament Isernally. Just a Isernal thing. But also, still, I don't recognize this passage to be racist... Jacob fooled Esau. Esau was a fine man, I see no reason that God should hate him.. He just didn't overstand birthright. And still, Iman don't sight Jacob=Yisrael as the father of black people, but the father of many people.
There will always be people that are jealous about our heritage, we know that. But JAH know. God knows the truth, so we don't care about KKK or Black Christian Racist-movements. It doesn't change that we are the jews.

Let me state that you speak lies, brother, Hitler was not a jew... Sorry to tell you, that would have been good in your campaign against us. Was Stalin and Mussolini also Jewish?   Hitler was not a jew, that is pure Babylon false talk. Yes, there is rumors, but no evidence... Sorry to tell, but He was more like you.. He was Roman Catholic = christian. He said almost the same, He said that we were not the real jews and so on, you can get help from nazis if you want to fight us.
 But there has always been propaganda lies and false rumors about us, just since Moshe and ancient times, so we are not surprised.

You are surely vex, my brother, you surely are.
May Adonai God be with you for calling Him racist. He wont, I guess. False teachers and false prophets are some of the biggest sinners. Blasphemer!

But I guess we wont agree on this one, as long as we don't trust our different "facts".
FYAH BUN ALL RACISM AND BYE HATERS OF ISRAEL.
Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 07, 2008, 11:23:21 PM
ill tell u why, because the Jamaicans and the whole west indians, black americans, are the TRUE CHILDREN
OF ISRAEL, and if u say its not the most high plan to put the jews through the holocost then u dont know
the bible,LAMENTATIONS 2 vs 2 The LORD hath swallowed up all the habitations of Jacob, and hath not pitied: he hath thrown down in his wrath the strong holds of the daughter of Judah; he hath brought them down to the ground: he hath polluted the kingdom and the princes thereof. 
which hollocost are u talking, coz if ur refering to what hitler did to the so called jews then ur
a joke, the REAL HOLOCOST is what happend to us blacks in slavery, over 100,000 000 million of us
perished and 6 million of u wannabe jewish perished by ur own people, coz hitler was a so called jew himself, theres no way u can compare what we have been through and what any other nation has been through
LAMENNTATION 2 VS 13 What thing shall I take to witness for thee? what thing shall I liken to thee, O daughter of Jerusalem? what shall I equal to thee, that I may comfort thee, O virgin daughter of Zion? for thy breach is great like the sea: who can heal thee?
No nation can equal to what we have been though as the scriptures coz our breeach is BIG LIKE THE SEA.

u dont know the scriptures and maybe thats because ur not an real Israelite because the MOST HIGH IS ONLY DEALING WITH HIS PEOPLE ISRAEL,
AMOS 3 VS 1 Hear this word that the LORD hath spoken against you, O children of Israel, against the whole family which I brought up from the land of Egypt, saying,  YOU ONLY have I known of ALLl the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.
PSALMS 147 vs 19He sheweth his word unto Jacob, his statutes and his judgments unto Israel.
 20He hath not dealt so with any nation: and as for his judgments, they have not known them. Praise ye the LORD.

so stop yuh foolishness bwoy



Your right Negus, These vibes I no like. Wagwaan is you let your youth chat this way because you wan Itect blackness at the cost of truth. And the rest of people never take blacks to task because its more trouble than its worth and ones react violently and its not Ilitically correct to challenge some of the folly that go on in the black Immunity because some ones still have a guilty conscience about slavery or someting and dont want to be seen as not Ispecting equal rights, but its pure folly that comes out this Jamaicans the chosen people.... Its a disservice to blacks to respect their self imposed racial segregation. Slavery was brutal but unlike what happened in Germany it was not a genocide/Holocaust. The purpose was to extract labor from the Africans not to kill them. Both ting was wrong, but when ones want to lessen Jewish sufferation and compare the two dem just cheapen both struggles. Really one struggle but something I think black people have a hard time taking rasposiblity for themselves. As so try and scapegoat Jews dem own problems. They talk about racism but that 'blacks' cant be racist. If you are in the world you have to play by the same rules. You cannot have the cake and eat it too. So people come against Judah for jealousy. Becasue we have actuallize repatriation. We have held our culture at all costs. We are more than ready for war. 
Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: NyaInIJahLove on April 08, 2008, 08:42:05 AM
The sad ting is dat, while brudda fights against brudda, the actual babylonians are having there way with all of us....this is just as they planned it...
like many people I suspect the I tinks Jewish people are the bankers who have it over the rest of us....yet that is a lie propagated by those very same bankers who have spreaded anti-semantic b******p all these years!!!!
....yes the Morgans, Rothchilds and Rockerfellers are not even Jewish, they are the ones who funded Hitler so it does make sense that they are Jewish! No they changed their German and Eastern Europeran names to Jewish names precicely so the Jews would get the blame for their evils!
Brother Imanvex, the I is unwittingly playing into their hands fighting against your Jewish brothers in this way...remember His Majesty is descended from the Jewish/Hebrew people himself!!!!
While the I sights up the evilness of black slavery, back in the day,
 ALL of us are presently at threat of allowing them to enslave us and our future generations..
see they use the same ole tactics, divide and conquer!!!
, to counteract this threat we need to do the opposite!!!!
 Unify and grow stronger!!!! stronger together!!!! we cannot change the past, but we can make a difference for the future...by dropping prejudice and past grievences and allowing Hebrew and caucasian gentile people into your heart to create a positive future for all our children......
I and I give thanks for the people who are willing to face the truth and act on it
sistah Nyah
Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 08, 2008, 08:48:42 PM
As JAH planned it. Both sides of a war are funded by the same people.
Posted on: April 08, 2008, 09:15:26 pm
Why don't you put some evidence on some of those assertions?
Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: NyaInIJahLove on April 08, 2008, 11:42:06 PM
are yah asking I for evidence?
I will have to do more research and talk to the people I got this info from....
bare with I....
remember i am a struggling mother of seven/reggae singer/cannabis law reform activist so be patient with I, I have a lot on i plate....
people tell I things that ring true, and I trust their integrity to tell the truth, and I weight it all up against the info I have already gleaned....
but details are not I strong point...I suffered slight brain injury due to multiple births and breastfeeding while ill with eating disorder which caused severe b12 deficiency and anemia so I memory for facts and figures isn't the best...
so I will get back to I sources with info about books to read, probably more youtube docos, possible movies and websites to back up I assertions...
Blessings and Love to one and all
Nyah I
Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: Human on April 09, 2008, 02:19:39 AM
remember i am a struggling mother of seven/reggae singer/cannabis law reform activist so be patient with I, I have a lot on i plate....
people tell I things that ring true, and I trust their integrity to tell the truth, and I weight it all up against the info I have already gleaned....
but details are not I strong point...I suffered slight brain injury due to multiple births and breastfeeding while ill with eating disorder which caused severe b12 deficiency and anemia so I memory for facts and figures isn't the best...


Those im sure are some proud, proud kids you have sistren. This sharing of info is what is great about this forum and makes all the other nonsense fade into the background, give thanks for sharing such business.
Title: Re: Old Testament vs New Testament
Post by: NyaInIJahLove on April 09, 2008, 10:24:31 AM
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Those im sure are some proud, proud kids you have sistren. This sharing of info is what is great about this forum and makes all the other nonsense fade into the background, give thanks for sharing such business.
Blessed Be Bred....you are so kind to I!
its nice yah know, coz RastaFarI gives I everyting so I need to give back
and if I and I give enuff and share the things that inform, uplift and liberate
surely a beautiful world we will be graced with having helped co-create with Jah Whole I Spirit, however yah percive dat to be...as it is truly a beautiful magnificent planet we are gifted with, the Garden neva left, it was we who left the garden and it is Jah garden we are destined to return to, I profess to Ileive....
as for the orig topic
I cannot sight any such ting as mindless matter or mindless spirit for where I am standing everting emanates from Mind.....a look at quantum theory and observations is helpful in ovastanding the great Mystery of reality, the confoundingness of our existance and the merging of Mystic spirituality and scientific reasoning that ties together all religion and transcends the mundanity of it with an open-ended yet majestic question mark
Blessings and thanks
Nyah I
Posted on: April 09, 2008, 10:50:41 am
oops...lol, I got I threads mixed up....
I agree wid Nepsis....I raspect the Ible asa whole and see consistancy within it....for i know Jah is all powerful and HIM will it to be as it is now...
this doesn't mean humans havent altered and mis-translated some parts..
I like to read as many  formally hidden or recently revealed Scripture/holy texts for instance Gnostic Gospels to obtain an even fuller picture of the Istories revealed by our prophets and Mystically inclined wayfollowers as pos
Jullaladin Rumi has alot to say based on his knowledge as the son of a devout theological scholar and as a realized Sufi mystic and 12 century  Whole I book scholar himself, his stories/mystic poems about Solomon, Moses, Mohammad and Christ and other Whole I ones are truly a heavenly experience, from i ispective
these are also consistant with both OT and NT Scriptures, in I experience and of course being Sufi is one with Moslem Koran knowledge also...
Coptics are ones who fascinate I alot too, yet I know too little about dem yet to comment
I will leave this link to peruse for your enjoyment and learning tho

Posted on: April 09, 2008, 11:18:07 am
http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_spirit2.shtml
Posted on: April 09, 2008, 11:22:47 am
http://copticjohn.com/