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Title: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 04, 2008, 07:22:08 PM
The "Rastafari movement" is a anti-semetic racist black nationalist movement promoting violence and ignorance.

***Rastafari does not deal with "the Rastafari movement".***

It is a misnomer of ones trying to exploit HIM name to promoted dem own folly.  I and I is way above and beyond them likkle "ting". Bless
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: yacoozah on April 05, 2008, 03:46:40 AM
Say what?
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 05, 2008, 05:19:48 AM
Bun Tattoos.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: yacoozah on April 05, 2008, 06:26:15 PM
Sorry bro, I don't quite get what point you're trying to put across.  ???
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 05, 2008, 09:25:13 PM
The term 'rastafari movement' in my mind is a contrivance that represents ignorance. One cant seperate the word sound Rastafari from the person of the emperor, and He is not a movement. I think babylon start with those terms.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: EmpressCarla on April 07, 2008, 01:49:59 AM
Blessings

Matthew 12:34-37
34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.


Be blessed
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: Human on April 07, 2008, 12:09:20 PM
Safe and secure in his little bedroom with his twisty knots in his head, a few selassie buttons on and a sizzla cd in the background next to his bob marley flag eating campbells vegetable soup out of a coconut shell typing away on his keyboard explaining to Rasta Nicks "Movement" family how the entire family of Rastafari children are, a bunch of antisemetic racist black nationalists. You dont get out much do you, I would love to see you say this to a crowd of Selassie followers promoting unity and rightousness, you would be a laughing stock. Maybe you should go to a few shows with a banner saying this on it and preach to the people there your "So Ras it hurts" views.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: NegusNegustiality on April 07, 2008, 03:16:41 PM
Ises,
The Ible puts Ethiopians above the Israelites so Ini nuh know what you a whine about?  I do suggest that you come to a real world gathering and reason about "bunin' out" Ini trod.  Lightening must touch you!


inHIM
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 07, 2008, 05:29:26 PM
Interesting rasponses. I'd like to see how the Bible puts Ethiopians above Israelites.  I called a movement racist, not any individuals. Antisemitic racist black nationalism is as real as white supremacy.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: Ras Adam on April 07, 2008, 05:40:21 PM
Iman agree with Elijah I. Iman don't think that the others in here overstand what He means.
He don't bun RasTafari-Selassie I or the everlasting faith in JAH almighty I.
 He bun the "black heart" rasta-wannabe, racist, antisemitic, false teaching, ROMAN, babylonian "ras".
I help him in here. Fyah must burn them up, so they will overstand with us.

Why are people in here judging others all the time? Why am I Antichrist, and Elijah I a "rasta wannabe"? You don't know us, you don't know truth better than we do. JAH is the teacher, we (you, Iman, He, they, we) are the student.
JAH is the judge, we are the suspect. Mind yourself, judging is not a part of righteous trod.

I think that this topic is very relevant, and true. "Rasta" is drowning in weed, reggae and negative things such as violence and black racism.
It would be fun to see Haile Selassie I tell racists, weed addicts and batty-beaters the truth in His Imperial Majesty's sight.
Stop and listen, Zion awaits, why fight over badness, the sun still shine.

Blessed Be He the Only One, Adonai Holy I God.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 07, 2008, 08:20:13 PM
They overstand. They cant face that most ones is dealing black nationalism and call it 'Rastafari' and 'Rastafarian' but Haile Selassie did not create that. Some Jamaicans create that. His Majesty reveal Himself to the whole world. The word 'Rastafari' is a title and name of Haile Selassie. JAH Rastafari Seen? The King has no earthly movement representing Him. His fullness is manifest in I and I.
Posted on: April 07, 2008, 08:39:54 pm
the entire family of Rastafari children

I'm interested in one who does not think that Selassie I is the creator conception of this idea. Your bond is to a 'movement' not the most high!!!
Posted on: April 07, 2008, 08:50:03 pm
See the "Rastafari movement" is the reason there an ad below my message to "Meet Rastafari women".
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: EmpressCarla on April 08, 2008, 12:47:57 AM
Blessings

What is black racism? In his article, “Hating Whitey: The Myth of Black Racism,” Ron Daniels writes:

“By definition, racism is the capacity/power to translate prejudice/bigotry into custom, policy or law. Black people have not had the predisposition or the power to oppress White people in [the U.S.].”

I was in the sixth grade when my white teacher defined the term “racism” as a verb (i.e., an action) that describes a systematic process of denying the rights, privileges and/or civil liberties of one racial group by another. In short, racism is about the majority group in POWER subjugating another group in an institutionalized way.

When have Afrakan peoples had the “power”?

Now, all of a sudden the definition of racism has been changed to mean the same thing as prejudice. This makes it easier for some to scream so-called reverse racism or black racism.

Everyone holds prejudices at times, blacks folks included. But prejudice is not the same as racism. People are free to believe whatever they wish, as long as those views do not infringe upon another.

And what is black nationalism? When did nationalism become a bad thing? When the word “black” was put in front of it?? Nationalism is pride in and affinity towards a particular group, usually a cultural or ethnic group to which one can relate. So because a black person loves and celebrates their culture this is somehow bad? It makes them an anti-semite, of all things?

So what is anti-semitism? Hatred of Jews? If the Rastafari Movement hated Jews, the Twelve Tribes of Israel would have never even been!

A lot of terms being thrown around but by definition, neither Rasta nor Afrakans in general are guilty of the negative connotations expressed herein.

Furthermore, these terms, “reverse racism” and/or “black racism” are buzzwords of the Reagan Coalition of the 1980’s that were used to scare up votes for the Republican Party. By forwarding these terms into the present, one is merely aligning themselves with the views of right-wing conservatives, not the views of Rasta.

Sight it!

It would be fun to see Haile Selassie I tell racists, weed addicts and batty-beaters the truth in His Imperial Majesty's sight.

I don't know what HIM might say as HIM never spoke to me. But perhaps His actions speak for Him in this time:

The Emperor sent his personal Emissary Dr. Malaku E. Bayen to organize the support of Africans in the Americas, under the banner of Ethiopian World Federation Inc. (E.W.F), registered in New York, USA. Exactly 7 years after the Liberation of Ethiopia and the return of the Emperor in 1941, the triumphant Emperor Haile Selassie I, bestowed the gift to the Black peoples of the West of 500 acres of land in Shashamane, Shoa Province.

Be blessed
Posted on: April 07, 2008, 07:37:15 pm
Blessings

They overstand. They cant face that most ones is dealing black nationalism and call it 'Rastafari' and 'Rastafarian' but Haile Selassie did not create that. Some Jamaicans create that.

It was HIM Haile Selassie I who TOLD the Rastafarians in Jamaica to centralize and organize!

His Majesty reveal Himself to the whole world. The word 'Rastafari' is a title and name of Haile Selassie. JAH Rastafari Seen?
This is truth!

The King has no earthly movement representing Him.
So you say, but they are only your words. The King's words and actions say different.

Be blessed
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 08, 2008, 01:07:34 AM
I don't know what "black racism" is. But to the extent that blacks recognize themselves as a race apart from whites etc, they are capable of being racist.   It is only an attempt to avert attention from this truth that speaks of blacks "lack of power", I and I have a zero tolerance policy in terms of racial discrimination.  Circumstances could change but this truth remains absolute. There are closed situations like hey what do ya know "the rastafari movement" where blacks have the opportunity to demonstrate racism and boy do they ever. Its false though, which is why I bun out the rastafari movement. It does not represent Rastafari but vain imagination. Brain washing and a movement to belittle or malign european culture out of anger and at the expense of truth. But I'm sure ones are ready to jump in that there is no such thing as european culture... Ones want to blame whites until it comes time to accept them and then they say theres no such thing as whites. So who is being racist if there is really only one race? What is Racism but hatred between brothers then? Injustice. Evil.   His Majesties gift had nothing to do with ones being black but that they were the decendants of people robbed from his continent. That they had black skin is trivial. His Majesty knew this and said this, But in the ole "Rastafari movement" its all you'll ever hear about.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: EmpressCarla on April 08, 2008, 01:14:17 AM
Blessings

Idren Elijah, the only one repeatedly screaming about color on this forum is yourself. Check it.

And in terms of blacks recognizing themselves apart from whites? Don't the idren got it backwards? Who began the notion of race in the first place? And for what reason?

Elijah you know better than to be twisting things the way you do. You are too smart to be this dumb.

One love still.

Be blessed.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 08, 2008, 01:15:30 AM
why does it matter who created it in terms of who subscribes to it? Yeah im the one right, thats not too hard to disprove go look at the archives ones like phophet 7 ras nevoe always coming with some ting "white" supremacy tid and that. Whats wrong with nationalism? Its not sacred, its earthly. JAH honor no nation.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: EmpressCarla on April 08, 2008, 01:23:21 AM
Blessings

why does it matter who created it in terms of who subscribes to it?
Cuz if you want to bun out something you should deal with the root and not the leaf.

Yeah im the one right, thats not too hard to disprove go look at the archives ones like phophet 7 ras nevoe always coming with some ting "white" supremacy tid and that.
It is immature to say if so and so did it, then I can to.

Whats wrong with nationalism? Its not sacred, its earthly.
Everything in this earthly plain is earthly. It is only man who want to declare what is Holy and Sacred. But THAT is just a vain imagining.

JAH honor no nation.
Go tell it to the Jews and the Christians, seen.

Be blessed
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 08, 2008, 01:27:31 AM
You said "I'm the only one screaming about it".
All racism exists at the root of misconception.

Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: EmpressCarla on April 08, 2008, 01:31:57 AM
You said "I'm the only one screaming about it".

I said you are the only one REPEATEDLY screaming about color. Is Prophet 7 here? Ras Nevoe? I've been away from the forum for a while, so I don't know. But when I return I find YOU at the driver's seat of the rhetoric wagon now.


All racism exists at the root of misconception.

I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.

One Love still.

Be blessed.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 08, 2008, 01:34:50 AM
Just as we were speaking someone posted about "white" rastafarians.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: EmpressCarla on April 08, 2008, 01:39:46 AM
Just as we were speaking someone posted about "white" rastafarians.

What do you care when all you do is post about "black" ones? LOL!
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 08, 2008, 01:51:51 AM
The point is that you are wrong to say that "I am the only one screaming about color".
Posted on: April 08, 2008, 02:44:21 am
I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.

This is because you refuse to think about it because of the color of the skin of the mouth it came out of.
Posted on: April 08, 2008, 02:49:34 am
Go tell it to the Jews and the Christians,

See you want to avoid correction because 'others' are guilty as well.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: EmpressCarla on April 08, 2008, 01:55:22 AM
The point is that you are wrong to say that "I am the only one screaming about color".
You keep forgetting that word "REPEATEDLY" which clarifies my earlier statement.

This very topic was started with YOU talking about color.

But should I state that you hate blacks? Should I call you an anti-khamite, since you have declared the "movement" anti-semite?

This is because you refuse to think about it because of the color of the skin of the mouth it came out of.

You are the only one refusing to think because of the color of skin Elijah. Not me.

One Love Still.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 08, 2008, 01:57:43 AM
If you want. But I will know it is your hyper black nationalism. I made one post about it. Thats not repeatedly.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: EmpressCarla on April 08, 2008, 01:59:28 AM
If you want. But I will know it is your hyper black nationalism. I made one post about it. Thats not repeatedly.

Again with the color!!!!   ::) ???
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 08, 2008, 02:01:33 AM
Only because that your understanding of khametic.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: EmpressCarla on April 08, 2008, 02:04:36 AM
Only because that your understanding of khametic.

Because of this! Because of that!

So you are a reactionary and not a revolutionary? OK, I get it now. ;)

One Love Still.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 08, 2008, 02:06:34 AM
No, it is the Hyper black nationalism that is reactionary.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: EmpressCarla on April 08, 2008, 02:07:47 AM
No, it is the Hyper black nationalism that is reactionary.

So you're a Hyper black Nationalist now?? :P

One Love Still
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 08, 2008, 02:10:15 AM
You wish.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: EmpressCarla on April 08, 2008, 02:12:24 AM
You wish.

LOL!!! You are a trip Elijah!

You wish...nice.

One Love Still
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 08, 2008, 02:15:26 AM
Nah, I think its pretty cruel and evil actually.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: EmpressCarla on April 08, 2008, 02:19:57 AM
Nah, I think its pretty cruel and evil actually.

Seen, your rantings against the Rastafari Movement are cruel and evil.

One Love Still
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 08, 2008, 02:22:38 AM
But u just called it nice.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: EmpressCarla on April 08, 2008, 02:26:23 AM
But u just called it nice.

Sigh... how long are we gonna do this?? This was fun but you are tiring me out! It's 5am in Israel. Shouldn't you be in bed...or getting ready for work or SOMETHING?? Geez! I mean, this truly is pointless don't you think? I wanted to see if you'd stop even when the reasoning turned ridiculous...but sadly, you just won't.  :'(

So I will. :-X

One Love Still
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 08, 2008, 02:42:52 AM
Whatever. I am from an oppressed people. We are oppressed by all 'races'. And many anti semites and anti semtic sentiment hide under "the rastafari movements" umbrella. Im straight with JAH, I AM RASTAFARI. So I will burn out what ever this movement claiming to represent me but pestering and refusing to recognize me is. I know its is jealousy. Blacks made up the Idea that they were the chosen people the only problem is that the "So Called" Jews are. So the only recourse thats left to support the lie is to claim that all the Jews in the world are frauds, and that its really a bunch of people whos ancestors were robbed from the Ivory coast that is the Lions tribe. But look at Selassie. This is too sensative its all assumptions with this "black" rastafari massive. All people do is try to make me look silly here because there are jealous of my intelligence. This is lowest order bunch of wannabe rasta's in the world. Thats why everytime I say something every one goes "your not rasta" becasue they dont know what rasta is LOLOLOL. But I will say that I hate ignorance so much, one day I will burn to into nothing and you little people will leave me alone, or maybe even shut up and listen for once.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: paco on April 08, 2008, 03:22:57 AM

one more time i gonna show my ignorance. where did rastafarians begin? i know it may not be important to some but to me it is, what race of people were the first to acknowledge the divinity and/or importance of HIM? before these people who called themselves Rasta's from Jamaica did anyone else inna tha world look up to or call themselves rastafarians?

                                    gracias, paco

Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 08, 2008, 04:04:14 AM
Thats a good question paco, I don't think that anyone knows really. I personally never knew what is, "Rastafarian". Always RASTAFARI. Some ones will say "Jamaica" this or that leonard Howell, but Theses were just ones who had some insight into the revelation of His Majesty, No fullness vibes. Selassie say he heard of Rastafarians and that it.  I always sight that Rastafari is the new name of christ that HIM write on you. I just think it mostly start with political motivation as a reaction to oppression as far as the 'movement'  "Rastafari'an' goes. But there is a spiritual reality behind it that is where the real power lies.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: paco on April 08, 2008, 11:28:49 AM

  are there any rastafari message boards or sites that point to what you are saying?

if so-called christians don't site rastafari and rastafarians don't cite tha spiritual reality of rastafari, thas a whole-lotta folks not intha fullness, is that what's being pointed to?

would you point out who/what is in the fullness vibe?

is what you say 'rastafari' another way of saying the tao, which i've heard some people call 'the way'? or another way of calling conshussness, consciousness? what christians call the holy spirit?

would you be willing to point out who or what group of people are in what you call the fullness?(same as second question)


                                     
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 08, 2008, 03:06:17 PM

>>>>are there any rastafari message boards or sites that point to what you are saying?<<<<

Not really. Most of the sites is dealing with the "Rastafari movement". I and I too small and strong to deal with such public vibes as that.

>>>>>if so-called christians don't site rastafari and rastafarians don't cite tha spiritual reality of rastafari, thas a whole-lotta folks not intha fullness, is that what's being pointed to?<<<<<<

WHOLE LOTTA FOLKS.

>>>>>>would you point out who/what is in the fullness vibe?<<<<<<

The fullness is realization/overstanding that I and I are the King of Kings. We don't follow HIM. We are HIM.

>>>>>is what you say 'rastafari' another way of saying the tao,<<<<<

Yes Thank You Exactly. "Rastafari" is way beyond an above anything 'In Jamaica'. It is basically a name of g-d. 

>>>>>would you be willing to point out who or what group of people are in what you call the fullness?<<<<

Rastafari is the group of people itself. We are 'many' but one person. But you will not see Us all in one place because We are spread out around the world to rule it.

                                     
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: Ras_Nevoe on April 08, 2008, 03:19:28 PM
I said you are the only one REPEATEDLY screaming about color. Is Prophet 7 here? Ras Nevoe? I've been away from the forum for a while, so I don't know. But when I return I find YOU at the driver's seat of the rhetoric wagon now.

I've been off the forum for a while, but I check in now and then with out comment, but now i see I man name in a thread which I have no involvement so I must comment.

First of all let me just start by applauding the I, Empress Carla, cuz I sight everything the I have said in this thread as truth (i've been saying the same thing), however when the I mentions I man name, along with prophet 7, I take that as an insult. Furthermore the I is implying that I was somehow ranting on about color. NO! I was speaking I man reality and the reality of most Afrikans living in Western Society, and unfortunately it is based primarily on the color of Afrikan skin, I didn't create this reality, I just let you know it exist, and offer the necessary tools to overcome. But if you look around the forum, you can see I didn't do  a good job, ones are still stuck-on-stupid.

Please don't respond in this thread, send I a PM. I Don't wish to get involved in this thread, I already know where it is going.

NOWHERE!

Again I applaud the I for speaking the truth, not much of that going on around here.

Ras Nevoe Nmimbi

Know Thy Self!

Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 08, 2008, 03:40:01 PM
Its so typical. Do you know how many posts I of course didn't start that I could go a bring up that are about nothing but color. How many posts maligning Jews... But the minute I make ONE post about Racism of the "Rastafari movement" I am "repeatedly ranting about color". This is MY reality too!! Ones are "speaking" I am "ranting" because ones disagree with the message. But rather than truly adress it people would just dissmiss and disrespect me further as "stuck on stupid" because what I speak is so simple it goes right over their heads. Blacks want to talk about racism and 'black' and 'white' as race but remove any responsiblity they could have in the situation so it is fruitless. Ive seen blacks be racist many times within the 'rastafari movement'. But it seems like black people want to beLIEve they can do no wrong. Blacks are human too. They are capable of Racism. And until this FACT is addressed it won't be a dicussion on race but just black people preaching to their own choir.

BTW it was I who mentioned your name and I hope you do take insult.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: paco on April 09, 2008, 01:44:35 AM


sounds ok. if no one knows where rastafari started i suppose leonard howell, archibld dunkley, robert hinds, mr hibbert etc... sounds ok too. good place to start? many, many of the folks you say that have the fullness of rastafari reside in jamaica too, isay. i read somewhere that ethiopia and Mr Selassie fought against white supremacy-- that true? that same WS murdered millions of judios only they killed by germans not arabs, mexicans, asians or black people-- true?

to me white supremacy/capitolism has to die for us all to survive and live inna harmony. i consider black nationlists my brothers intha struggle. i see WS ruling the world in this time not rastafari.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: EmpressCarla on April 09, 2008, 02:30:26 AM
First of all let me just start by applauding the I, Empress Carla, cuz I sight everything the I have said in this thread as truth (i've been saying the same thing), however when the I mentions I man name, along with prophet 7, I take that as an insult.

BTW it was I who mentioned your name and I hope you do take insult.
Thanx for clearing that up Elijah.

Hmmm, I think someone owes me an apology. Oh Ras Nevooooooooo!!!!! ;)

Please don't respond in this thread, send I a PM. I Don't wish to get involved in this thread, I already know where it is going.
The I could have, and should have, given me the same courtesy.

One Love Still
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 09, 2008, 02:43:35 AM
But then he couldn't have let every one know that he's too big for the conversation.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: NyaInIJahLove on April 09, 2008, 09:27:55 AM
Yah know I love all you guys....
dunno how to show it more than I am trying to
obviously I am not doing to good a job by the feedbak of late
still, I will try do betta or just go bak to studio and try bring more vibe wid music
RastafarI is who I and I IS
still I am human and make PLENTY mistakes and am prone to backsliding as much as any so I appreciate the feedback, even if I ego hurts a wikkle bit asa result
bun dat egotripical falsehood!!!!!!
folks round here know I as wayward flower child
so yah should also know I need I iriginal elders,mentors and even critics
coz like I sistren Carla, I am a wild child who loves Rasta Fiyah
bun let it bun
coz true love is at de heart
and nutting can kill dat
RastaFarI 4Iva!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: Ras Adam on April 09, 2008, 02:27:28 PM
...
Maybe I think some of the "African African African" ones in here, forgets how His Imperial Majesty dealt with us..  He recognized us as THE jews. Do the Movement fight what He speaks? Seriously...

"Falashas"!!! That is what you call us again now!
Doesn't anyone remember Operation Solomon? And the other operations..
There is a reason, that jews are REMOVED from Africa.

Adonai God JAH is not racist, and Israel is not "better than other people" but we exist!
JAH create mankind, mankind create racism - black and white. And no, I really think that black racism exists. I don't care who's "on top", it's all about the mind.

Blessed Love
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: Ras_Nevoe on April 09, 2008, 02:47:34 PM

Hmmm, I think someone owes me an apology. Oh Ras Nevooooooooo!!!!! ;)

I apologize, sistren, I should have paid closer attention, but when I saw my name I got angry, because I hate when ones use my name when I'm not around to defend myself


Quote
The I could have, and should have, given me the same courtesy.

One Love Still

Absolutely Right!

Again I apoplogize

Forgive me?! ;D



Ras Nevoe
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on January 16, 2009, 12:55:06 PM
"""InI as Bhingi man InI testimony is Death to both black and white Dowpressors.

the Jews that occupy the little Land today are a Bunch of Eorpean outcast that need to be burned alive who-sover have a chance to do that must go ahead.

The muslims in Gaza , Black people don't even have to sympathise with them either remember the Black People are suffering a great deal in the hands of Arabs and have already suffered enough from Timbuktu, Kemet, Algeria, Lybia, today Sudan.

Remember Black People have a written and -unwritten convanent with His Majesty all we could do is to watch them eating one another alive."""


Here a post today on World of "Jah" Initing "Rastafari" worldwide. What was my timing off? I hope its unu's that come for it! ;)
Posted on: January 15, 2009, 09:07:40 PM
Some more "royal love" today from "jah people",

""""InI Royal family

InI will remain speechless in this one but to say this....

There is another Jewish state on the border between Russia and China. They were given this piece of land in about 1933 or 4 because no body wanted them near them. it is called Birobidjan.

I want to repeat what I wrote yesterday, that all Jews should be sent to live there. The place must be enclosed by thirty feet high concrete walls and the Jews must only ever be allowed out of there for special purposes and when they do they must be obliged to wear something which will distinguish them - a particular hat and something sewn o their clothing.""""

Of course as serious as this is by  no means let it get in the way of your thumb twiddling rasposablities.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: Julian on January 16, 2009, 06:45:13 PM
Those extracts Elijah are sickening. Whoever said them originally reminds me of Hitler, a sick twisted man. Do these people even understand the problems in Gaza or just see it as another reason to express their Anti-Semetism?
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on January 17, 2009, 12:36:03 PM
The question is not if they understand them but how. Many peoples understanding of the problem is not based on a recognition of the State of Israel's right to exist, The question then becomes what their understandings relation to truth is. But no matter what ones overstanding of Israel or the situation in Gaza, such expressions as above represent the height of Anti-Semitism so ingrained in what today masquerades as "Rastafari". Never forget that its not just those who make such statements, but all who silently allow them that are responsible.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: surfmon_I on January 17, 2009, 09:16:05 PM
Greetings,
  At risk of remaining silent, one might ask, to what degree perpetuating the negative aspects of existence is to the eventual positivity that can and shall draw the darkness into the overwhelming light which is love.
  A question I have asked on a simple level is that if the peoples of the world, ALL viewing the center from various points, see the same thing; and the basic rules that govern such existence, primary being, Do Not KILL; how can we achieve this new state with such unwillingness to set it in sight?.  To dwell so much on what tear and keep us apart is to not exercise the positivity to which we are so obviously moving towards.
  This new state of consciousness is what shall bind and transform this world as we know it into what we are to become.  All within this near future reality.  It is Love.  and the center IS JAH.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on January 18, 2009, 12:18:23 PM
There is no degree to with perpetuating negative aspect of existence is to the eventual positivity of that which can and shall the draw the darkness into the overwhelming light which is love. However unlike your words infer, without the clear acknowledgment of, and ascertainment of responsibility for these negative aspect of existence, the eventual positivity that would overwhelm it will never do so. It is mearly an convenient and contrived excuse that seeks aversion to its own responsibility in these negative aspects of existence that posits they were better left in the shadows as opposed to openly brought to the fires of sacrifice for purification. The hallmark of gentility is to refuse dialogue regarding whatever causes them "discomfort" and the tribe is left only to carry even more weight of the worlds immaturity.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: melissa231 on January 18, 2009, 07:35:36 PM
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Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on January 19, 2009, 10:48:39 AM
Glasses maybe?

Without the clear acknowledgment of, and ascertainment of responsibility for these negative aspect of existence, the eventual positivity that would overwhelm it will never do so.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: surfmon_I on January 20, 2009, 06:24:26 AM
Although darkness cringes and recedes from the light, there is no doubting the Lights eventual Victory. 
Let us acknowledge what our responsibilities are One and ALL.  It is when we begin to find out , discover and move in a direction that tends to not see the otherside that we loose that part of our selves as a whole.
There are layers upon layers of humanity that exist within vibratory fields that allows beings to live in a shared physical realm and separate emotional and mental realms
We gotta see it to be it
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: NyaInIJahLove on January 20, 2009, 01:56:56 PM
As anti-semetism exists within the "RastafarI movement" is undeniable, and as the present shituation of heavey-handedness is being perpetuated by ONES WHO SHOULD KNOW BETTER
let us, rather than crying victim, look at ourselves and REAL EYES where we ourselves fall short of pure compassionate, loveful expressions...
rather than give fuel to the NEGATIVE, LACKING SELF RASponsibility, LACKING COMPASSION and OVERSTANDING
why not, with our humility, honesty, and evaevolving sight, bring about a HEALING, a UNIFYING heartopening open appeal for clear sight....
ONES could choose words carefully, being sure to be descriptive, without overly emotional REACTIONEriness,
without the impatience born of ego
and the scapegoating
without the shunning of differing viewpoints
simply addressing the wounded heart, the pain and the alienation, the injustice and the afraid
the frustration and the despair
with compassionate, empathetic listening
and clear articulate reasoning from the heart
I hope in time, we are able, as a family, to embrace ALL with the pure love and truth of the Most I, the core and source that we come from and will return to, as primordial Mother/Father Beingness calls us to embody our Highest truth once more
Blessed Love and Compassion
Sistren Nyah I
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on January 20, 2009, 09:45:01 PM
I really just have to say how big it is for ones to openly discuss the undeniable, Especially when its a way to explain why IandI should assume some sort of childlike character onto others in order to censure them from experiencing the full consequence of their behavior.Yeah and the whole "crying victim" thing is an irrelevant hilarious attempt at deflection. No one is crying victim, I and I are calling ones to face their judgement. But some would rather call to forget in guise of not "giving fuel" to babylon.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: surfmon_I on January 20, 2009, 10:31:09 PM
  Not really sure where this leaves the thread, there is some language that really leads us away from what we could be addressing. 
  So, if the topic is the "Movement" and why we should Bun it, knowing Elijah attach a negative connotation to the notion of "Movement", I would say that without a movement, there would be no Momentum. 
  To set forward with a loving heart and accepting responsibility for our Part in this "movement" on a VERY personal level with JAH that lead to a New Tommorrow reflected in the "NEW" covenanent~ one of forgiveness, but none the less Seriously Vital for ALL Humanity
  Give Thanks for the Love.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on January 21, 2009, 07:49:02 AM
Don't be ridiculous, I have no problem with the notion of movement, Just this particular one.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: surfmon_I on January 21, 2009, 01:09:56 PM
and so~~~with the movement comes Momentum.  Now we can see the World stage set.  As the people draw in a breath and hold this waiting to exhale, we have a chance to Unite. 
  Two days ago, I was shown the very copy of a 1961 N.Y Times Magazine which within its pages showed HIM Haile Selassie I, and JFK.  We Just passed MLK Day, and yesterday President Obama was sworn in.  Exhale.
  I do not see any other example of outward manifestation, and Mystic linkage to Multi Cultures as do I in Rastafari.  To shake and expose the half that has never been told such as I do with Rastafari.
  It goes without saying that withIn each set there are variations, and yes, I am sure we can see smallness of mind within the "movement".  What I see as larger than the movement is the way that it reaches out and touches.  It cannot be ignored tha the majority of what Rastafari mean is a Royal personification and roots linkage to something we all share.  Deep inside that shall Overcome the smallness we each possess and live our lives trying to climb above.
  Responsibility is Major.  We must step up to the plate in this Iwa.  Let JAH colors FLY in the Sky.  Once we have Momentum, the movement is hard to stop.  And if the Movement Rally round JAH KING, Let the Masses GIVE THANKS !  each in their own way Glorifying HIS IMPERIAL MAJESTY and spread these words of Unification.
  and a New Day shall dawn.
OneHeart~OneLove
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on January 21, 2009, 01:42:21 PM
The word "rastafari" means differnent things to different people. To some it means spreading lies and hatred and calling it "the half thats never been told". To others is just a way to avoid their self. And still to others in is an abslute truth that does not move or change. All has its place, whether destined for the fire or the fire itself.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: prophet777 on January 21, 2009, 10:18:03 PM
From what I have read out of the quotes and heading, well..... ;D

need more be said ? On a Rasta site talking bout "Bun Rastafari Movement?" And at the same time call yourself Rasta ? You can't get no more stupid,retarded and ignorant than that.....

LOLZ

P7
Posted on: January 21, 2009, 10:52:28 PM
This (RASTA) probably whould not have existed if there was no such thing as a Rastafari Movement in the first place = FACT.
Trees without roots....LOL.

But, as most can see here, it is a waste of time talking to a brick wall.

P7
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: Knowledge on February 24, 2009, 11:00:28 AM
In response to I Elijah I

The "Rastafari movement" is a anti-semetic racist black nationalist movement promoting violence and ignorance.

I can see some things in what you say, but the issue for me in what you have written is about your use of the term Anti Semitic!

I can see by your use of the the term that you have either brought into the illusion of anti semitism as espoused by the jewish state.  Or you must believe what the bible states, However realistically speaking;  Historically a semitic person was a one who hailed from the Arabian/African land (before the invasion) The Semite was not as we led to believe the zionist jew who now dominate the palestinian land!
Indeed if you aspire to the Noah (racist nonsense) story then the jew would have been form the tribe of japeth and not shem!

The truth is that the jew of today is descended from the Khazars who wondered out from the back of beyond (Caucus region) and encountered the teachings of those they traded with and incorporated their teachings in to their own code! Indeed the Khazars had seen the advantage of adopting and promoting these teachings as their own, most of the spin that they put on religion as we know it, dates back to the Sumerians and Babylonians.  That is where the beginnings of the book we know today began!

Indeed the concepts they have developed which have caused the most misery to humanity can be firmly placed at the door of the babylonian/Khazar agenda.  by that I mean things such as interest, which have reeked havoc and placed humanity under their control!

Another thing about history, is the role of the jews in slavery, they were the ones who profited by running the slave ships and making good money from slavery (The jesus of Lubeck springs to mind)!  It's worth noting that the creed of the 3rd party to who is deemed innocent of atrocities because they didn't actually do it originates from this agenda.  In otherwords if a person employs someone to murder another, that person is absolved from all sin because the fatal blow was not struck by him! makes you laugh doesn't it!

So in terms of Racism and Nationalism I think they are far more Worse examples than the rastafarians, My only issue with Rasta is the need to always seek to validate their  livity using discredited (established) religions as a benchmark!

Personally I think we should just leave religion behind!

Knowledge,
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on February 24, 2009, 04:55:58 PM
The confused mind twist of murderous trash above is just a case and point demonstration that most of the "Rastafari" today are but common conspiracy theorist anti-semites who scapegoat the jews for their own mediocrity. Of course under new and improved guises nevertheless transparently deceptive. I'm not going to spend any time refuted your weak to the point of non existent argument because all those who spout such or are too cowardly to bother denouncing it(as is the population of this particular wasteland) already exist in a state of such self apathy are literally unable to consider otherwise without running the risk of some sort of internal combustion and there times arent appointed yet. You a "Rastafarian" represents the Head of the Orthodox church? Bun and squel duppy your torments just begun.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: Knowledge on February 24, 2009, 05:22:41 PM
You cant spend the time to address my point because you know i am right.
I know you and your ilk and thats why i can say what i say because its the truth?
isnt it
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on February 24, 2009, 05:58:24 PM
There's nothing to really address, We just have a difference of opinion and I have no need for you or anyone else to see things my way. My harsh words for you are based on the fact that you promote hatred which will eventually be addressed but not in this medium. Despite whatever self-aggrandizing illusion your under, Creating the appearance of an openness to engage to lay a trap for a circular justification to speak more hate that anyone with a third of an eye knows better than to fall in being recognized for the pointless cry for attention it is does nothing to validate the fundamental idiocy of whats originally stated. In another topic I asked you to provide one example from the bible that could help explain the apparently passionate regard for mankind that has you so hot in its pursuit to which you did not respond, let that be the concrete indication of what legitimacy the foul verbiage you espouse contains.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: Knowledge on February 25, 2009, 10:44:05 AM
Greetings to one and all,

I am responding to the comments of I Elijah I,

I  initially wrote a response to his acidic comments of which I find to be reprehensible, insofar as the comments he makes appear to be just negative subjective insights made solely to castigate and degenerate Rastafarians without any objective or justified reason.

First of all, I welcome any person making a point of view for discussion, but I find that the rantings of this individual to be steeped in the jewish teachings, which above all teach racism and other isms as a way of life which is justified by what they presume to be th authority of god (or YAWEH). In addressing this point readers will note I have supported my own viewpoint with facts (that the reader can go and check upon) that this individual chooses to ignore. (which is their prerogative, although choosing to ignore truth -doesn't make it go away!)

I noted with a degree of irony; that this individual immediately latched upon my view in respect of the bible and asked to me quote examples! The condescending manner of this individual gives rise to the notion that she/he is either extremely ignorant and paranoid with a massive ego chip on the shoulder, or this individual is simply one of the agents, whose job is to confuse and chant down anything that may cast a light on the truth or should I say expose them!

I would refer other readers to but two excerpts made by this individual and ask your selves - whats that about? 

1) The confused mind twist of murderous trash above is just a case and point demonstration that most of the "Rastafari" today are but common conspiracy theorist anti-semites who scapegoat the jews for their own mediocrity. Of course under new and improved guises nevertheless transparently deceptive.

2) In another topic I asked you to provide one example from the bible that could help explain the apparently passionate regard for mankind that has you so hot in its pursuit to which you did not respond, let that be the concrete indication of what legitimacy the foul verbiage you espouse contains.

Harsh words, but nothing more than expected! However, lets address the two points I have highlighted,

1)In response to the first point, the answer is very simple, It is indeed a (God given) fact that 'Ethiopians' have more knowledge of the Old Testament than the 'Ashkenazi/Israelis'. However, their religion is so ancient it pre-dates the Scribes' Talmud, of which the Ethiopians have no knowledge. Before this individual condemns Rastafarians, should they not be firstly condemning the roots of racism i.e. The Babylonian Talmud!

2) Following on from this last point; and taking up the issue contained within the 2nd excerpt regarding the request for examples from the bible. I would like readers to take into account a crucial aspect to this issue, as I previously stated; the the Bible has been re-written to justify abuse and corruption by the system and their adherents, however what some may not realise, the bible of today is a direct manifestation of the Babylonian Talmud,  I would urge you to go and seek the truth in respect of the this document for yourselves!

However, back to the main issue, In answer to the request I will concentrate on arguably one of the greatest pieces of folly to manifest from the Bible, The Hamitic Curse, as many will know this piece of ludicrous nonsense has been use as the cause and justification for the inhuman treatment of Black People under the process of slavery! However the root cause and origin of this racist blasphemous and nasty concept can laid squarely at the door of the Babylonian Talmud; which states that negroes were the children of Ham, who was cursed with blackness! Laughable nowadays, but that is where the basis of the racism and other isms that beset the world today stem from!

Readers should note that the association of Ham with the African race made of this myth a major rationalization for the European enslavement of Africans.  For according to the jewish, arab and christan; if god himself had ordained that Africans should forever be hewers of wood and drawers of water for the children of Europe and Asia, then the moral dilemma of slavery was resolved. The slavemaster was simply doing God’s will. How ridiculous!, But sadly this is the true thinking of them who claim to carry god given ideals! The brutality of slavery with the participation of the Jewish people shows that whatever humane guidance that Judaism provided was thoroughly ignored.

Just so we are clear; The excerpt below taken from the the Babylonian Talmud is what the jews believed to be the curse given unto Ham by Noah!
"Ham is told by his outraged father that, because you have abused me in the darkness of the night, your children shall be born black and ugly; because you have twisted your head to cause me embarrassment, they shall have kinky hair and red eyes; because your lips jested at my exposure, theirs shall swell; and because you neglected my nakedness, they shall go naked with their shamefully elongated male members exposed for all to see."

It should be noted that the legendary Jewish scholars like Moses Maimonides, a man who The Encyclopedia of the Jewish Religion refers to as "the symbol of the pure and orthodox faith," spewed such  racist themes in his Guide to the Perplexed: Again I give an example for the reader to check out!
[T]he Negroes found in the remote South, and those who resemble them from among them that are with us in these climes. The status of those is like that of irrational animals. To my mind they do not have the rank of men, but have among the beings a rank lower than the rank of man but higher than the rank of apes. For they have the external shape and lineaments of a man and a faculty of discernment that is superior to that of the apes."

These are but two examples of the uses of historical uses of the bible (as it was intended) by the authors/revisionist who have been undertaking their great work of ages!  Trick us once shame on you - trick us twice then the shame is on us!

Lets be clear; I not hater! And in addressing the point made by the writer, (The confused mind twist of murderous trash above) I don't advocate the abuse or murder of anyone because of religion (unlike the other religions) However, I do accept that when any group of people are taught by their holy books they are better than other races and it is lawful to use, robbery, rape, murder and abuse the other races, those supremacists are going to be hated by those they abuse!

A reasonable person would assume on reading the comments of I E I, that like the rest of them they dare not allow the truth to come out. Because the half that has not been told, will surely cause them eternal shame and hasten the destruction of their system, and they are not going to allow that are they!

Knowledge.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on February 25, 2009, 12:50:47 PM
Laughable as you may find the curse of Ham it certainly proved to play out in real life. Did the book cause it, or did it foreshadow what was already ordained? I think the later. I advocate for those so inclined to views such as Knowledge to read and write as many such scripts as possible as its an occupation suiting your capacity that will not interfere with the worlds functioning. Indeed perhaps even sequester yourselves to plan and conduct uprisings that could maximize efficiency in your eradication.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: Knowledge on February 25, 2009, 01:49:28 PM
First of all, I don't find the Hamitic curse to be funny -far from it!

However, in answer to the question you pose, in my opinion what was already ordained by those MEN was
perpetuated further by the book! As for your view, I surmised that you would think the latter, as (you demonstrate)
you have been steeped in the nonsense and wickedness of the Babylonian Talmud and all the other
publications and rituals that the evil system practices and espouses upon the society -How could you be
expected to think otherwise? (Free your mind)

You make it clear that you think that people on this site are foolish and therefore lack the capacity to answer you in
clear and concise terms, ha, more the fool you!!

But I note, that you are when faced with the truth you just fade away, yes I will admit, that you do have a way with words, actually your
vocabulary is quite good! However, the truth is truth, The examples I quote are not my own views per se. I have not just sat there and decided to invent a pile of nonsense simply to respond to your negative and hatefully distorted comments, rather, these are facts and that is
why I have said to all readers -go and check them out and see if what I saying is false or if it is indeed historical fact!

Retreat wicked man of Babylon!!!! Melt and flee before the truth, seek to hide the SHAME of the truth!

Like I said; I know your kind and the lies that they have perpetrated in the name of the truth or the continued existence of this hellish system
However, allow me to address your misconception I am not a hater of anyone based upon their origin or otherwise! I hate the system
not an individual !  One thing that Heartical-ites are saying with which I fully agree, "is when one is burning Rome, it's not an individual one ought to have in mind! Rather one should be burning the system and the negative hateful, stereotypical divide and rule thinking that it advocates and caused to manifest within Humanity!

Knowledge.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on February 25, 2009, 04:33:27 PM
Clearly not one appreciative of the word ordained's capacity.
If you don't find the curse of Ham laughable perhaps you shouldn't say so...

"states that negroes were the children of Ham, who was cursed with blackness! Laughable nowadays, but that is where the basis of the racism and other isms that beset the world today stem from!"

Yeah, that's about the amount of enjoyment your good for on my end.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: Knowledge on February 26, 2009, 09:25:39 AM
Here we go again.

Just for your information, or any reader who mistakenly thinks I am taking this subject as a joke,
No!! I do not find the myth about the Hamitic curse to be a joke, maybe I should have used
the term lamentable or even shameful, but given that you clearly know what I mean
lets not not get bogged down in semantics!

I notice (yet again) you stay/stray clear of the issue, even in light of the fact that
you reproduce the quote from the Babylonian Talmud! I note that you do not offer an alternative explanation!!
Maybe it's because of the fact that you can't! Or is it that you are waiting for your masters to give you
the ammunition to post a response? ;)

As for the reference to "enjoyment on your end"! I would prefer if you left your filthiness
in your mind, rather than exposing it on here. But then again this aspect of your response
only serves to show you for what you really are.




are.     
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on February 26, 2009, 01:35:45 PM
I'm not sure the curse of Ham was ever not lamentable. I guess your chomping at the bit for someone to ask how you can rightly attribute a quote that everyone and their grandmother knows is from Genesis to the Babylonian Talmud, By all means... However it doesn't make very much difference to me whether it is from the Torah or the Talmud because either way it played out in reality like I said and that and not some line from any book, the bible or otherwise is what matters. I'm glad your getting a sense of who I really am.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: Knowledge on February 26, 2009, 02:47:49 PM
I already knew who you are and who you represent from before I engaged you in this exercise!
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on February 26, 2009, 02:56:41 PM
Even Better!
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: Knowledge on February 26, 2009, 03:17:56 PM
You have your negative work to do! I mean that's your purpose! Isn't it!
Just like my work is to expose people like you. For what you really are.

Again I think that particular objective has been achieved. Don't you?? ;)
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on February 27, 2009, 12:53:19 PM
To some degree. I'm nevertheless grateful for an honest effort on your part though as the nation can certainly use some exposure.  Never think it rash that a movement is denounced based on the explicit folly of what could very well be a minority of its representation when the spirit of the whole remains neglectful in its address.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: Human on February 27, 2009, 04:36:02 PM
"Never think it rash that a movement is denounced based on the explicit folly of what could very well be a minority of its representation"

We dont, we clearly recognize your status as less than a minority and one who's "representation" is the product of sheer ignorance and vanity and the spirit of Rastafari as a whole you could never address, but, thanks for your honest effort to try and portray that which you will never find in your poisoned heart and which comes so easily to the humble and proud lovers of his majesty. Simply stick to your racist zionist hateful views you do so well at when trying to write so eloquently. Rastafari starts at the livity, not hiding behind a computer screen daily regurgitating the same dribble each day seconds after each post, im sure it's tough trying to fit in to something as nice as Rastafari livity when all you know has poisoned your already small heart and conciousness, but, if you turn off your moms computer, stop twisting your hair and calling it locks, eat some Ital soup instead of campbells vegetable soup, drink some Irish Moss instead of red bull, and most importantly...and i mean most importantly.........GET OUTSIDE AND CONGREGATE WITH REAL HEARTICAL RASTAS...you may just learn something. Good luck little boy.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on February 27, 2009, 05:33:57 PM
I'm glad to hear you recognize the responsibility of the voice of justice not to remain silent, though it will be the application of this wisdom that determines the truth of your declaration.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: Wahine on February 28, 2009, 03:27:58 AM
Wow!!!! I've been away from here for a wile now and i'm beginning to remember why. Elijah? why are you so confrontational? You can say what you want bout me (not saying you have) but i really feel it's time for you to come to some peace and overstanding with others that we are not all the same and some make different choices to others which should be the right of every  person in this world! Ras is no different. If you were a Mormon can you swear that you would live by their code and doctrine? Or would you live the parts that suit yourself? Perhaps your expectations of others are far to high. What are your expectations of yurself? I doubt you will answer this and if you do i would think it will be to suit what you are preaching to others.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on February 28, 2009, 09:05:52 AM
Aversion to confrontation is hiding from the inevitable. The Rastafari Movement started some cult that they call Rastafari with codes and doctrines but its just for the sheep. Rastafari are fully self actualized meaning we do not have the psychological schism of "self expectation".
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: paco on March 02, 2009, 04:28:10 AM

   i take everything u say as juss ur opinion. sometimes aversion is the wise thing to do, imo. there's a good and bad time to do it all, there has to be balance. the so-called Rastafari movement is here for a reason, it was born out of true, true sufferation, imo. what r the codes and doctrines u talking about ? when u speak of Rastafari what rastafari u talking bout ?
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: Redge on March 02, 2009, 11:01:38 AM
I agree with the fact that
HIM should come down and tell
all the anti simetic racists but
i also dont agree that herb is a burden
on Rastafarian faith
i believe it opens iner spiritual content
inside the body,

but i will also say i don't think anybody will
ever agree on this subject

i came to the Rastafarian faith because it
is a religion/faith that
rather than having a war orientated background
much like the Muslim community fighting with the
Jewish community
it didn't it was a peaceful community that all they wanted
to do is be one and unify in there beliefs of HIM
Selassie I

I have no problem with other religion
for to be rasta you must be open minded
towards all people and faiths

But i see not why the so called
"rastafarian Movement" has to
resort to ignorance and violence.

Rastafari is known to the world for
there peaceful ways.

Hail Selassie I

Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on March 02, 2009, 11:18:23 AM
Aversion is not a matter of timing. There is no balance in the confrontation of injustice. People over the years have conceptualized "Rastafari" as a "thing" a "movement" a "livity" an "african or "black" liberation philosophy" a "religion" etc etc ad infinity into whatever way they feel at the time to vampire the power of His Majesties name to support their own warped agendas, concocted "codes of conduct", and phantasitcal dogmas that can be anything but never called "religious" becasue that is the sheeps code word for everything they fear about themselves and thus that word must not be spoken. The true soulJAH, the I's true to the Imperial Honor never seperate His Majesties precoronation Name RasTafari from the person of the Emperor HIM Haile Selassie I, A BEING, And also I and I is just that, The Almighty G-d RASTAFARI. But ones is too proud to let it show that they didnt know something already they just foward folly in the face of the genuine which leaves you the pitiful little anti semetic fool train that is Rastafari movement today. And look how many run around not true to the sound, 99.9%. I guess no one bothered to tell them that "Rastafari" is not something you can become, it is not anything open to "membership", and not "anyone" can be Rastafari since anything that doesn't go along with their absolute inclusiveness, everything and everyone is equal, man made g-d sloth born theology or psuedo historical black supremacist reverse racism is rejected through fear based and violent arrogance. People "join" to belong, all the while Rastafari stands alone.

Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: Knowledge on March 02, 2009, 12:02:07 PM
Greetings,

I agree with what you say in terms of peace and love, it would be a wonderful if we could just live Upful,
But therein lies the issue. The whole world is in confusion Love is Hate and War is Peace!
As I said, previously; A historic view of the world and it's history, reveals that the so called Semitic person is
not the Ashkenazi, but the Arabian/Ethiopian peoples that have been displaced by the System (Babylonian, Rome, Ashkenazi,
Greek, British and American).

Indeed when one looks in depth at history, you will see there has been a deliberate and well thought out plan of action that has been deployed throughout the ages to enslave us both physically and mentally. For instance, Look at communism, In terms of the Russian Revolution you will note that the Bolsheviks were not Russian, well at least not the leadership, who were mostly all Ashkenazi in origin. You would be quite surprised at who was behind that revolution and who bankrolled it. However I would point out that the purpose of this observation is not to be degenerative to  jews or others, it is aimed at one being aware of the manipulators whom wielded the power and have advanced the ism and schisms of the system. Their great works of ages!! As you will be aware the system (babylon/rome) is not a rigid system, it is a fluid process that morphs with changes as times change! 

RastafarI offers an alternative course for those who have come to the realisation that Rome (the system) must be vanquished, However, the danger is; that in seeking to validate RastafarI consciousness based upon the bible and the others works that the system have relied upon, leaves the FarI consciousness open to malicious works by those who are charged employed by the system to oppose any view that touches upon the truth!

I agree Herb is not a burden on Rastafarian consciousness or any faith for that matter, as it opens up the senses and promotes harmony!
However, Opening of the the mind is a situation that must be avoided by all costs by them, Indeed, from the the view point of the oppressor; the mind can be the most deadly of weapons, That is why they would rather see conscious people becoming negatively affected by Alcohol.
I think that any consciousness that promotes herb as the healing of the nation and Alcohol as the destruction of humanity is very much heading in the right direction.  Is it any wonder that they promote Alcohol and (surreptitiously push) Hard drugs on the population. Is it any wonder that guns are are awash within communities and nieghbourhoods? Yes the hypocrisy is so upfront that people have just accepted it without seeing it for what it is! 

As you say, Rasta is not about being bound up in the war that the christian jew and muslim  are fighting, because that smokescreen is about the next phase (New World Order)! They collectively want to purge the world for themselves, but the things is not get caught up in their foolishness which is based upon the material-ism of their worldly programme!

There are many roads that can lead one to the Horizon; beyond which lies enlightenment, Rastafari is one such Road! But as an open minded individual  I realise that the road to enlightenment is not what they tell you, it's not their misconception of Life, Each and everyone has the potential to achieve enlightenment, salvation or redemption call it what you want! But first each and everyone has to know themselves!



 
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on March 02, 2009, 07:36:46 PM
Hype clots on the prowl. Seriously how low brow can it really get? This is just a perfect example of the same old Jew Hate propaganda that's always been around. But in a place like this, if you even say "Jew Hate" your instantly revealed as an outsider because most people need to deny that such a thing exists though its as common as well...themselves.  First we have the hypothesizing of "a deliberate and well thought out plan of action through out the ages to enslave "us"(an identification that is concocted against the imaginary "them") both physically and mentally" which is then alone evidenced by the fact a number of leaders of Communism(whom interestingly as many others feel is a way out of mental and physical slavery) were Ashkenazim (which are Semitic Jewish people that resided in European lands during the Exile) though who were also Russian unlike the hypeclot insinuates. The fact remains that the Ashkenazim suffered genocide under the "system" in the last century and while they may have some amount of self sufficiency, as we all should, as citizens of Israel and the US, accusing them of being this Imaginary Evil system to enslave the rest of the world is a function of the same desire to exterminate them like in Germany and like has been around since We have existed. The stench of jealous idiocy. So watch how hypeclots move, not to insult you as it is quite transparent, but they just slip in little hate lines in an over all positive post to make anyone who speaks against them seem to be negative. Not that I expect any of the "Rastafari" cowards who need to deny the Jewish people altogether for their made up racist hypeisms to fit together or the weakheart groupies who abide them are likely to even give a second thought to the already decided lies they call a "worldview".
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: Knowledge on March 03, 2009, 11:40:49 AM
For those who readers who are reading this thread and don't know about this topic within the thread, I would urge you to read the post below
and after swirling it around in your minds, go and check it out for yourselves. Who knows! Maybe some of you might come up with further information which may either add a fresh perspective, or even prove, or for that matter, disprove the issue!

According to the various sources; the so called experts;
In a religious sense, an Ashkenazi Jew is any Jew whose family tradition and ritual follows Ashkenazi practice. When the Ashkenazi
community first began to develop, the centers of Jewish religious authority were in the Islamic world, at Baghdad and in Islamic Spain. Ashkenaz (Germany) was so distant geographically that it developed a tradition of its own, and Ashkenazi Hebrew came to be pronounced in ways distinct from other forms of Hebrew.Ashkenaz is a Medieval Hebrew name for Germany. European Jews came to be called "Ashkenaz" because the main centers of Jewish learning were located in Germany.

In an ethnic sense, an Ashkenazi Jew is one whose ancestry can be traced to the Jews of central and Eastern Europe. For roughly a thousand years, the Ashkenazi Jews were a reproductively isolated population in Europe. However, since the middle of the twentieth century, many Ashkenazi Jews have intermarried, both with members of other Jewish communities and with people of other nations and faiths. Conversion to Judaism, rare for nearly 1500 years, has once again become common. Thus, the concept of Ashkenazi Jews as a distinct ethnic people, especially in ways that can be defined ancestrally and therefore traced genetically, has also blurred considerably.

At some point in the last decades of the 8th century or the early 9th century, the Khazar royalty and nobility converted to Judaism, and part of the general population followed. The origins of the Khazars are unclear. Following their conversion to Judaism, the Khazars themselves traced their origins to Kozar, a son of Togarmah. Apparently Togarmah is mentioned in Genesis in the Bible as a grandson of Japheth.

Interestingly it should be noted that the Romans and Christian believed that The 'Messiah', said of jews; "You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies." John 8:44.

In spite of the rantings of A who dem (or is that Slew dem), ;), It is nonetheless important that ones get a full perspective of all the issues and not just a one sided rant which is solely aimed at stopping ones from finding out for themselves. I don't come to judge people that's not my role! However, when issues appear that need to examined, then I for one will examine them and ask the relevant questions in the search for truth!

I would make it clear to all readers, I am not judgmental neither do I condemn innocent people for crimes they are not guilty of. However, I will always point the finger and ask the question! One should ponder and ask why is it that the "names of ancient empires like the Byzantine, Ottoman, Roman, and Persian are well known to anyone who has even a rudimentary knowledge of history, but the Khazarian Empire, an equally compelling entity, has somehow escaped as much notice...?? I think it would be in the interest of all who wish to enlighten themselves to take a really long hard look at History before making up their minds.


Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: Human on March 03, 2009, 02:29:17 PM
Is someone actually paying money to keep this forum up and running.....why?
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on March 03, 2009, 10:49:40 PM
The real question is who can be paid to close it.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: paco on March 04, 2009, 04:40:17 AM
    over the years there been some great posters here. people like Fiyah, Tree, negus and a couple of women, their names i forgot. i would like to see this forum continued. please don't let dem scare you or frustrate you into not voicing your thots and opinions about any-thing ! this IS a black liberation struggle that embraces us ALL, imo.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: I ELIJAH I on March 04, 2009, 07:50:33 AM
Black Liberation is an oxy-moron.
Title: Re: Bun the Rastafari Movement
Post by: Knowledge on March 04, 2009, 10:21:58 AM
How does this work?

They start a thread call but the Rastafari movement. On a Rasta website!
They then diss Rasta to the fullness 
They promote their style of judaism  which basically defends the captivity and slavery of Black People in particular and humanity in general.
They claim that they are Rastafari but yet give no conscious reasoning to back up this outlandish claim.

In short dem a folly worker!

But the difference between them and us is they are afforded a right to spread their poison.
In contrast; try going on a christian, jewish or muslim site and submit the same type of ignorant nonsense that they post
and within 10mins you would be banned!

Get me right! I am not advocating that they should be banned, far from it! I love a conscious reasoning when point of view and
issues can be discussed and positive criticism or even constructive criticism can be discussed with a view to reaching a Overstanding!
I want people to show me some information/knowledge; which I can take away to consider/research and come up with a viewpoint based on overstanding; whether that viewpoint is a strengthening of the original viewpoint or the relinquishing of the viewpoint.

But these people do not function that way. They seem to relish the opportunity to chant down people without giving any coherent or sustainable reasoning other than the old played out anthem of the oppressor!

I certainly would not want to see them banned because their vitriolic hateful outpourings of unconscious hatred; serves the purpose of exposing them for what they really are and who they really represent!

I wonder if any conscious-ites out there, see it the same way?