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Title: The Real Bible
Post by: Human on July 23, 2008, 12:06:45 PM
The real Bible is not the work of inspired men, or prophets, or apostles, or evangelists, or of Christs.

Every man who finds a fact, adds, as it were, a word to this great book. It is not attested by prophecy, by miracles, or signs. It makes no appeal to faith, to ignorance, to credulity or fear. It has no punishment for unbelief, and no reward for hypocrisy. It appeals to man in the name of demonstration. It has nothing to conceal. It has no fear of being read, of being contradicted, of being investigated and understood. It does not pretend to be holy, or sacred; it simply claims to be true. It challenges the scrutiny of all, and implores every reader to verify every line for himself. It is incapable of being blasphemed. This book appeals to all the surroundings of man. Each thing that exists testifies to its perfection. The earth, with its heart of fire and crowns of snow; with its forests and plains, its rocks and seas; with its every wave and cloud; with its every leaf and bud and flower, confirms its every word, and the solemn stars, shining in the infinite abysses, are the eternal witnesses of its truth.

 
For thousands of years men have been writing the real Bible, and it is being written from day to day, and it will never be finished while man has life. All the facts that we know, all the truly recorded events, all the discoveries and inventions, all the wonderful machines whose wheels and levers seem to think, all the poems, crystals from the brain, flowers from the heart, all the songs of love and joy, of smiles and tears, the great dramas of Imagination's world, the wondrous paintings, miracles of form and color, of light and shade, the marvelous marbles that seem to live and breathe, the secrets told by rock and star, by dust and flower, by rain and snow, by frost and flame, by winding stream and desert sand, by mountain range and billowed sea.

All the wisdom that lengthens and ennobles life -- all that avoids or cures disease, or conquers pain -- all just and perfect laws and rules that guide and shape our lives, all thoughts that feed the flames of love, the music that transfigures, enraptures and enthralls, the victories of heart and brain, the miracles that hands have wrought, the deft and cunning hands of those who worked for wife and child, the histories of noble deeds, of brave and useful men, of faithful loving wives, of quenchless mother-love, of conflicts for the right, of sufferings for the truth, of all the best that all the men and women of the world have said and thought and done through all the years.

THESE TREASURES OF THE HEART AND BRAIN -- THESE ARE THE SACRED SCRIPTURES OF THE HUMAN RACE.

ROBERT G. INGERSOLL
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on July 23, 2008, 02:08:30 PM
Why in the first sentence assert what "The real bible" is "NOT" ? Or even imply a "fake bible"?
Because in what seems to them all that wonder, that to the creator and sustainer of it all it is a fingernail is too terrifying a reality to cope with. Why would one knowing the Bible believing nature of the declared purposes of this website constantly lash out against it in displays of immature and satanistic propaganda?
Because it is by our believe alone that such disincarnate's remain eternally tormented in their fruitless rebellion towards "the real truth".

Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: natty threads on July 23, 2008, 02:59:33 PM
Jesus is the Ible.
He is the Living Word of God, the fulfillment of the Law, the Torah personified.

I agree that in most cases when people "interpret" they are adding to.

May hot coals be heaped upon their heads.

That is actually a good thing- it refers to sharing fire- which was (and some places still is) carried in headdresses.

Bless up, and may you never lack hot coals on your head.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Human on July 23, 2008, 03:48:56 PM
For those who read into this as negative or hateful let me clear something up which to most is already clear about what is being said. This is a short message from one of the worlds great writers of the past named ROBERT G. INGERSOLL who happened to name this writing "The Real Bible", not to discredit the original or blaspheme it or anything of the sort, this is simply explaining in wise words the beauty of humanity and it's innate moral ways, "For thousands of years men have been writing the real Bible, and it is being written from day to day, and it will never be finished while man has life", the way humanity has been writing this moral, ethical and righteous book is throught "All the wisdom that lengthens and ennobles life -- all that avoids or cures disease, or conquers pain -- all just and perfect laws and rules that guide and shape our lives, all thoughts that feed the flames of love, the music that transfigures, enraptures and enthralls, the victories of heart and brain, the miracles that hands have wrought, the deft and cunning hands of those who worked for wife and child, the histories of noble deeds, of brave and useful men, of faithful loving wives, of quenchless mother-love, of conflicts for the right, of sufferings for the truth, of all the best that all the men and women of the world have said and thought and done through all the years.

This is a testament to the beauty and forward movement of humanity in its moral and ethical life on earth, if you cant see what the writer is trying to say then you have read it with a closed mind and maybe stuff like this is over your head. That would be a shame on this forum because it relates to almost every uplifting speech his majesty ever wrote about his people and the peoples of the world and there greatness worthy of praise. Pull out your books with Selassies speeches and you will see the same thing. This was not meant as a poke at anyone or anything but was meant to show and applaude the human spirit.

He was not saying that the Bible "as we know it" was not actually written by prophets, apostles and such because it WAS, he's saying the real inner book (bible or Gods testament) is happening everyday in life, just look around, most of you are writing it as you read this, it is being written each time we love, share, shelter, protect, when we defend righteousness, stand up for the oppressed, etc, etc.....as Rastafarians you should see the underlining message quite clearly, if not and you think this is satanic in some way then you dont know God very well.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on July 23, 2008, 04:42:45 PM
"It" is "happening" IN BOTH life and in the revealed scriptures. So to say "it" is "NOT"(as he does!) "happening" anywhere, along with the insensitivity in posting it here is yes, Satanic!. Especially when the prejudice is directed at the Hebrew tradition.  There is nothing more or less "real" about the bible than life. But pagans are so averse to this fact they slander the bible and its people as exclusive to life itself for vexation. This is a celebration of life?






Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Human on July 23, 2008, 04:55:08 PM
It is the same as saying "The real Jesus is not the carpenters son or the preacher in the temple or son of god but the message of love and kindness to all humanity" this is metaphoricaly speaking, just what many here do all the time, but when I post something similiar, because ones dont agree all the time personally with me then it must be a poke or negative saying, thats all it is, you dont like me so you complain about the writing which says nothing but good for you and me, nice i understand how ones are.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on July 23, 2008, 06:18:55 PM
Why boast of thyself o heathen men?
Anyone who speaks of "Jesus" as if a mere "message" that is separable from "reality" is equally as CONfused. The point is that it is not just an innocent confusion but, though perhaps unconscious, aggression towards creation and creator itself. An I with your level of comprehension most assuredly does not understand why such proclamations as you've posted are not "good for me", the point is more that you don't care and are likely glad.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Human on July 23, 2008, 06:30:21 PM
The post remains, deal with it the way you like, it's there now for others to see and no words thrown at me hurt the slightest.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on July 23, 2008, 06:35:27 PM
Remains nonsense no doubt.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Human on July 23, 2008, 06:44:51 PM
Thanks for your "opinion".
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: natty threads on July 23, 2008, 06:50:02 PM
"For thousands of years men have been writing the real Bible, and it is being written from day to day, and it will never be finished while man has life."

Human, this is exactly what Jesus said.

"Love one another as I have loved you. This is the Law and the Prophets."

The Law and the Prophets is the Mosaic books and the prophets in what we call the OT.

Isn't Jesus saying us loving one another the real Ible?

Bless up!
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on July 23, 2008, 07:10:03 PM
Oh my pleasure duppy.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Human on July 23, 2008, 09:13:45 PM
Isn't Jesus saying us loving one another the real Ible?

yes i would agree, along with the kingdom of god is within you.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on July 23, 2008, 09:15:12 PM
Knowing the script is one thing....
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: natty threads on July 23, 2008, 10:53:01 PM
Ahhhhhggggghhhhhhh..........

As big as the logs in our eyes are, how do we ever get close enough to kiss our loved ones?

Bless up!
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Humble_yet_strong on August 17, 2008, 07:22:15 PM
Greetings

Blessings

I have to say sometimes this forum is very immature

Human and Elijah, you both have alot to offer, but all the while you look for any excuse to jump down the others throat you are dwelling in negativity.

It is very pathetic this tit for tat arguing in every other post

No disraspect to either of you, more love fi sure

But where is the love may I ask?

Guidance

Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on August 20, 2008, 12:56:43 AM
I agree with you, This forum is Most times the height of immaturity because it is not kept as a space for Rasta reasonings. Do I need to tell ones that Rasta is something that a bunch of wanna be enemy flock and pretend to? If space for this is what Nick intended to provide then big up Rasta. And if unmoderated and an order not raspected that's what you'll get and NOTHING will ever be built. In fact it will be DESTROYED! So don't confuse that I care about some "thing" named "human". Its that its influence is nothing but violence and attempted Impediment to Rastafari Movements. And this is true no matter what anyone else has to say about it, You must never have been introduced to I ELIJAH I. Contrast the "I"'s promotion of his and others Ideas surrounding the Ible and Faith with HIS MAJESTY HIMself's proclamations regarding these and how this might relate to a "Rastafarian Faith". So to answer your question, In the most fundamental sense, I have no Love for Irits outside Zion Gates, So don't expect to see it here. The name of JAH is something that must be DEFENDED with the sharpest swords and the hottest flames, I's don't just trod up talking about "One Love I a Rasta with "my own ting"" Come through the Order, or bun against it. Of course your comments don't add anything to the actual conversation anyway. If you'll actually read what I write instead of react pon u feelings maybe you'd notice that I and I not dealing with a tit for tat. Dem couldn't compete with Iyah even if We dealt with it.

One Love
Master Blaster

Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Human on August 20, 2008, 12:52:30 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on August 20, 2008, 02:47:31 PM
Mockery and dissmisivness in serious discussions are meant to foster nihilism and deride individuals as an immature way to get attention by vexed Irits of the lower realm.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Human on August 20, 2008, 03:44:43 PM
"Mockery and dissmisivness in serious discussions are meant to foster nihilism and deride individuals as an immature way to get attention by vexed Irits of the lower realm."

Clap, Clap, Clap, you finally looked in the mirror and realized what you have been doing for quite some time, im really proud of you Eliejah for recognizing this about yourself, your almost there son just a few more steps and you will be on your way, congrats.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on August 20, 2008, 05:38:10 PM
Its demonstrated in the referencing me as "son" and other instances of obvious taunting so as to imply some sort of seniority or superior knowledge. An old white man trick Rasta seen too long. What's interesting is that the presence of a person like yourself on a Rasta board DEMANDS that people take a stand, Big surprise "I's" here haven't.....thus relegation of the forum to outernet trash.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Human on August 20, 2008, 05:55:25 PM
other instances of obvious taunting

Hypocrite
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on August 20, 2008, 06:14:07 PM
How can I taunt someone who is trespassing?
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Humble_yet_strong on August 20, 2008, 10:38:59 PM
Greetings

So it continues

Human if you really thought Elijah was such a child then why do you enter into such arguements with him?  Belittling him is not proving any righteous point just merley fueling the negativity further.  Like attracts like and unless one of you changes your actions, you will be stuck in this cycle for as long as you continue it.

Elijah if human is such a Heathen then let him burn in his ignorance, leave him be.  This forum isnt moderated properly and it isnt kept as a space strictly for Ras.  But your supposed to be firm, even in a room full of Heathen JAH light shine through and blind the darkness into retreat.  We know the wheat and the chaff is harvested together, the farmer only takes what is useful for him.  Remember the higher self, there is no good or evil, all are works of JAH.   Bredda Nick is operating from a point of nuetrality also let him be.  You cannot vexate every time someone displays things we dont agree with, and you cannot demand raspect and authority because you are genuine and you feel others are not.  The heathen rage, not the righteous.  My comments were not meant to add to this reasoning in regards to either agreeing or disagreeing with the original post.  I welcome anything contradicting and challenging to my knowledge and feeling, it makes us stronger.  The weak become confused as they do not feel what they are pretending to walk.  Yes the post was contradictive to HIS Majestys teachings, but then Ras is very diverse and there is no set "religion" regarding the path.  Nobody can move a man with good foundations, no matter what.  So why get vexed when we sight negativity in anyone else?  That is just allowing the negativity to be transferred.

Dont change your frequency or vibration.

You guys spend so much time squabbling, I come on this forum every once in a while and it still continues, wake up man and build a bridge and get over yourselves, your egos.

This isnt a virtual trod, pull yourselves away from this forum, and each other.

Nuff Love to you both, serious- I mean that deeply.

But your both burning yourselves trying so hard to burn the other.

I wish you both the very best

May the Almighty Guide

Intinually


Blessed

Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on August 20, 2008, 10:52:39 PM
Elijah if human is such a Heathen then let him burn in his ignorance, leave him be.
I don't speak for his sake. Trust I'd be the last to get in the way of his torment. 
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Bredda Nick is operating from a point of nuetrality also let him be.
There's nothing neutral about defamation born of negligence.
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You cannot vexate every time someone displays things we dont agree with, and you cannot demand raspect and authority because you are genuine. 
I couldn't care less about respect from unu's, I will fight for the integrity of the emperors name.
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I come on this forum every once in a while
Thanks for the Help "Ras".
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Humble_yet_strong on August 20, 2008, 11:01:16 PM
Greetings

You really think you speak for the Emperor?

You think your fighting a righteous fight in a virtual world?

Big difference thats gonna make in reality bro

What help do you want online, for I & I to join and cast fiyah like judgemental extremists

Next we'll be bombing people in the name of the Emperor

Go and do some real good in the world if you think you can instead of just being everything you speak against. 

How many have you reached or awoken?  None here with the judgement you project

Your not an authority in any way, what wisdom comes forth from your lips?  Know a tree by the fruit it bears.

I never said I was Ras by the way

Your a Joker

As I said Deep Iternal Love

Blessings



Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on August 21, 2008, 02:27:39 AM
You really think you speak for the Emperor?
Not "for" him no.
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You think your fighting a righteous fight in a virtual world?
I know of no virtual world.
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Big difference thats gonna make in reality bro
Seen.
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What help do you want online, for I & I to join and cast fiyah like judgemental extremists, Next we'll be bombing people in the name of the Emperor
I never said I wanted any help. Nice to see you've learned your lessons from your dungeon slavemaster you?man? to resort to making accusing terrorist implications because you cannot speak as I and I, You are not of I and I, You do not even know what I and I means, yet still provide expositions of your confused wannbe nature's imposter self. Big Up Teach!
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How many have you reached or awoken? 
As many as were ready.
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None here with the judgement you project
Sedway.
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Your not an authority in any way,
Except the one recognized by the intelligent.
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what wisdom comes forth from your lips? 
The lips of wisdom are sealed but to the ears of overstanding.
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I never said I was Ras by the way
May JAH see that it stays that way.
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Your a Joker
Your a spitefull jealous infiltrating piece of white trash.
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As I said Deep Iternal Love
And as I said roast in Iternal Hell duppy!

Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Oskar on August 21, 2008, 02:35:04 AM
How "ingenious". Curse all who are against you and call those who agree with you "intelligent".

It's only a perspective, causing division. Reflecting the topic I guess: downplaying the Bible and bigging up himself.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on August 21, 2008, 02:51:39 AM
call those who agree with you "intelligent"
Recognizing I Ithority is not the same as agreeing with it.
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It's only a perspective, causing division.
Yes I. One is on either side of the Door.
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Reflecting the topic I guess: downplaying the Bible and bigging up himself.
The topics not the bible, but if it were I could not reflect against something that I am anyway.
all who are against you
Who's that again?
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Oskar on August 21, 2008, 08:48:53 AM
Recognizing I Ithority is not the same as agreeing with it.

Your authority is over yourself. That I can agree on.


Yes I. One is on either side of the Door.
From the beginning we are one. The door is only used by those who choose to step outside to where the cursing and degrading negativity is.


Who's that again?

I don't know. I only know the one who love all.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Humble_yet_strong on August 21, 2008, 09:43:41 AM
Psalm 50

verse 16:

"But unto the Wicked GOD saith; What has thou to do to declare my statutes, or that thou shouldst take my covenant in thy mouth?"

17) "Seeing thou hatest instruction, and castest my words behind thee"

18) "When thou sawest a thief, then thou consentedst with him and hast been a partaker with adulterers"

19)"Thou givest thy mouth to evil, thy tongue frameth deciet"

20)"Thou sittest and speakest against thy brother; thou slanderest thine own mothers son"

21)"These things hast thou done, and I have kept silence; thou thoughtest that I was altogether such a one as thyself:  But I will reprove thee, and set them in order before thine eyes."

22)" Now consider this, ye that forget GOD, lest I tear you in pieces, and there be none to deliver"

23)"Whoso offereth Praise glorifieth me; and to him that ordereth his conversation aright will I show the salvation of GOD"

NO ONE SHOULD QUESTION THE WAYS OF OTHERS FOR NO HUMAN BEING CAN JUDGE THE WAYS OF GOD-HIS Imperial Majesty.


Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on August 21, 2008, 03:22:32 PM
NO ONE SHOULD QUESTION THE WAYS OF OTHERS FOR NO HUMAN BEING CAN JUDGE THE WAYS OF GOD-HIS Imperial Majesty.

This is the quote people use when their in someone else's house eating their food and Iyah come home and them say but Elijah, His Imperial Majesty say not to question get it. But dem still question I faith, So for me theirs is no question get it?
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Oskar on August 21, 2008, 04:08:49 PM
I don't think His Majesty was saying stealing is ok. Looking at His Majesties life I think it is clear that HE didn't promote a 'anything goes' kind of livity.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Humble_yet_strong on August 21, 2008, 06:10:03 PM
Psalm 50

verse 16:

"But unto the Wicked GOD saith; What has thou to do to declare my statutes, or that thou shouldst take my covenant in thy mouth?"

17) "Seeing thou hatest instruction, and castest my words behind thee"

18) "When thou sawest a thief, then thou consentedst with him and hast been a partaker with adulterers"

19)"Thou givest thy mouth to evil, thy tongue frameth deciet"

20)"Thou sittest and speakest against thy brother; thou slanderest thine own mothers son"

21)"These things hast thou done, and I have kept silence; thou thoughtest that I was altogether such a one as thyself:  But I will reprove thee, and set them in order before thine eyes."

22)" Now consider this, ye that forget GOD, lest I tear you in pieces, and there be none to deliver"

23)"Whoso offereth Praise glorifieth me; and to him that ordereth his conversation aright will I show the salvation of GOD"
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on August 21, 2008, 10:05:24 PM
I don't think His Majesty was saying stealing is ok.

Seen Oskar, Your quite a thinker. I don't think he was saying that a bunch of pagan wannabe commoners infiltrating someones church, humiliating their elders, attempting to deceive its congregation and distort their message was ok either ;).
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Oskar on August 22, 2008, 12:18:07 AM
Seen Oskar, Your quite a thinker. I don't think he was saying that a bunch of pagan wannabe commoners infiltrating someones church, humiliating their elders, attempting to deceive its congregation and distort their message was ok either ;).

There is that winky face again. I don't think there is a problem with being either a commoner or a pagan. Infiltrating someones church however is not something I agree with since the word kind of bears a negative connotation. Elders can get humiliated for a number of reasons and I don't always think that is a bad thing. Deception indicates bad intentions and is not something I support. Distorting someones message too has some kind of corruptive sound to it. I think everyone should be free to speak for themselves.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on August 22, 2008, 12:26:18 AM
Yes people should free to speak for themselves, but that does not make what they say acceptable.;)
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Oskar on August 22, 2008, 02:52:19 AM
Yes of course. There are things like spouting hate and things similar to that which is not acceptable.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on August 22, 2008, 02:59:52 AM
Hate speech is the proper term. "Spouting" can itself have hateful implications.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Humble_yet_strong on August 22, 2008, 12:14:10 PM
Bless you Elijah

Love is the answer
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Oskar on August 22, 2008, 12:34:00 PM
"Spouting" can itself have hateful implications.

That's why I used the two words in conjunction to emphasize what I meant.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on August 22, 2008, 01:56:34 PM
Especially so since Blood, generally what's thought to spout, has yet proven unacceptable unlike instances of the causation of its spouting accurately described as "hate".
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Oskar on August 22, 2008, 02:44:47 PM
The bible say love.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on August 22, 2008, 03:03:10 PM
Oh?  Romans 1;29

"They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed, depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, G-d-Haters, insolent, arrogant, and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they are senseless(shout out to nicks), faithless, ruthless."

This is the "love" for which the blood spouts?
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Humble_yet_strong on August 22, 2008, 03:31:38 PM
Sounds like a self description Elijah, about 90% of that relates to your conduct

Bless you

Love to you
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on August 22, 2008, 03:45:26 PM
Unlike Rastafari, Your no one to judge.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Oskar on August 22, 2008, 03:55:12 PM
This is the "love" for which the blood spouts?

Mat 5:44

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on August 22, 2008, 04:06:18 PM
Speechlessness

Revelation 21:8 "But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Humble_yet_strong on August 22, 2008, 04:13:55 PM
Thank you Oskar

Elijah claiming Rasta does not make you divinely skilled in the art of judgement

I am not judging you, merley making observation.  

What you do is cast unskilled judgement upon everyone who doesnt agree with you.
Its quite sad to watch your ego and arrogance manifest in every one of your posts,
Its even sadder to see you being a hypocrite consistantly

And I am the silly white duppy trash lol

Bless you angry man

and Love to you
Posted on: August 22, 2008, 05:13:07 PM
Psalm 50

verse 16:

"But unto the Wicked GOD saith; What has thou to do to declare my statutes, or that thou shouldst take my covenant in thy mouth?"

17) "Seeing thou hatest instruction, and castest my words behind thee"

18) "When thou sawest a thief, then thou consentedst with him and hast been a partaker with adulterers"

19)"Thou givest thy mouth to evil, thy tongue frameth deciet"

20)"Thou sittest and speakest against thy brother; thou slanderest thine own mothers son"

21)"These things hast thou done, and I have kept silence; thou thoughtest that I was altogether such a one as thyself:  But I will reprove thee, and set them in order before thine eyes."

22)" Now consider this, ye that forget GOD, lest I tear you in pieces, and there be none to deliver"

23)"Whoso offereth Praise glorifieth me; and to him that ordereth his conversation aright will I show the salvation of GOD"
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on August 22, 2008, 04:17:44 PM
Elijah claiming Rasta does not make you divinely skilled in the art of judgement
Seen. Though being HIM does.
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I am not judging you,
Lie. These are judgments...
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your ego and arrogance manifest in every one of your posts,
you being a hypocrite
angry man
And as we've seen, I judge liars.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Oskar on August 22, 2008, 05:02:12 PM
Speechlessness

If you claim that is a correct representation of my post it is a lie.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on August 22, 2008, 05:13:43 PM
And if a frog had wings it would not bump its ass when it hopped.;)
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Humble_yet_strong on August 22, 2008, 05:22:49 PM
Bless you Elijah

and I wish you to recieve all the Love you clearly need
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on August 22, 2008, 05:32:44 PM
Thanks but I and I have had plenty of your lies.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Humble_yet_strong on August 22, 2008, 05:56:46 PM
I love you bro, you can say its a lie.

I love you and you cant change it

Blessings
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on August 22, 2008, 06:15:52 PM
There is never becomes a question of change to true love.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Oskar on August 22, 2008, 06:31:07 PM
And if a frog had wings it would not bump its ass when it hopped.

They'd better get wings then.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on August 22, 2008, 06:43:35 PM
As would be the perspective of a pagan who did not recognize g-ds perfection in creation.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Humble_yet_strong on August 22, 2008, 07:01:37 PM
Tell us Elijah is a Pagan ignorant?

What do you know about Pagans?

Love to you

Blessings
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on August 22, 2008, 07:07:14 PM
Ignorant is more or less the definition of pagan. I know there are many different kinds of pagans, on different levels of ignorance. Why do you ask?
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Oskar on August 22, 2008, 07:08:54 PM
As would be the perspective of a pagan who did not recognize g-ds perfection in creation.

Yes, perfection like Proverbs 16:30 "He who winks with his eye is plotting perversity".
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on August 22, 2008, 07:13:32 PM
Especially in that it helps reveal further those who attempt to use it against its true spirit.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Humble_yet_strong on August 22, 2008, 07:14:41 PM
Elijah

I ask because you say Pagans are ignorant of JAH perfection in Creation

How is this so?

Can you explain it?

Love to you

Blessings
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on August 22, 2008, 07:20:20 PM
Pagans unduly identify with creation so as to leave no room in which to view the invisible surpassing perfection of g-d that exists within it, though I can't explain it.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Humble_yet_strong on August 22, 2008, 07:29:11 PM
Very well put

Love to you

Blessings




Posted on: August 22, 2008, 08:27:00 PM
Love conquer evil
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on August 22, 2008, 08:51:01 PM
You mean I passed whitey's test?  I's awestruck. Come to think of it, I only say I can't explain it as a rhetorical way to illustrate its illogicality. We know full well why they rage.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Humble_yet_strong on August 22, 2008, 11:29:19 PM
Elijah

Why do you assume I am white?

Why are you so racist?

The only one thats raging is you

I show love you show hate, who is the heathen?

Love to you

Guidance




Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on August 23, 2008, 02:03:06 AM
A simple Yes or No is fine.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Oskar on August 23, 2008, 03:41:12 AM
I don't think those are yes/no questions.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on August 23, 2008, 02:42:44 PM
Just No ones.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Humble_yet_strong on August 23, 2008, 02:53:30 PM
Elijah

I shall be ignoring you from now on

Eventually when there is no one left to cuss and judge you may get bored

Until that time I wish you the very best

As I stated before Love to you

Guidance
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on August 23, 2008, 03:07:19 PM
I shall be ignoring you from now on
Were that true you would not have informed me since now your "ignoring" will be a direct statement towards me.
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Eventually when there is no one left to cuss and judge you may get bored
Needless to say my denouncements have never been dependent on your awareness.
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Until that time I wish you the very best
Why do you wish me the best only until I "become bored"?
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As I stated before Love to you
And as I said, There is no room in my soul for your lies.


Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Oskar on August 23, 2008, 04:08:46 PM
my denouncements have never been dependent on your awareness.

Your denouncements says something about you though,  even though its dependent on the awareness of the one looking.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on August 24, 2008, 03:15:09 PM
Ises
Posted on: August 23, 2008, 05:13:32 PM
Your authority is over yourself. That I can agree on.

I never said this. Only that sometimes recognition of my Ithority comes through regret.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Oskar on August 24, 2008, 03:58:06 PM
Recognition of the one true authority within is never a regret.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on August 24, 2008, 04:27:48 PM
Or an agreement.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Oskar on August 24, 2008, 05:34:59 PM
It's a recognition, impossible without acceptance.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 02, 2008, 07:25:05 PM
Clearly.



Posted on: August 24, 2008, 07:40:20 PM
How can one simultaneously claim that I "curse those against me" and not know who they are?
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Oskar on September 03, 2008, 02:35:01 AM
Cursing people is not difficult, loving is.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 03, 2008, 04:56:12 PM
People? There you go flattering yourself again.
(http://forums.rasta-man.co.uk/smf/Themes/rasta/images/warnpmod.gif) 
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: boz :) on September 03, 2008, 10:01:14 PM
Is that someone passing judgment AGAIN because it doesn't agree with their view?

This is as predictable as lame one liners in a Roger Moore film.

:-)
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Oskar on September 04, 2008, 02:56:19 AM
Saying that human beings are not people is derogatory in itself and what I mean by "cursing". Try looking at the root cause. If everyone treat each other with dignity the problem goes away. Teaching by example you should know that.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Rasta Nick on September 04, 2008, 02:31:15 PM
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Try looking at the root cause. If everyone treat each other with dignity the problem goes away.
For real .. if we all showed each other respect we would realise that this is a wonderous planet to live on.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: natty threads on September 06, 2008, 05:49:48 AM
Love one another as I have loved you.

This is the Law and the Prophets.

;)
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: RAS GROWSTRONG on September 08, 2008, 08:34:43 PM
The "ten commandments" go a long way . . . .  the stories in the Bible come from Ancient Egypt . . .  check out vid on the development of the Bible by Gail Riplinger . . .   hxxp: video. google. com/videosearch?q=gail+riplinger&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f#
Posted on: September 08, 2008, 05:02:08 PM
My apologies the link is not working however you can go to google video and do search on Gail Riplinger and her vid will appear . . .  Otherwise the scripture says the essence of the Bible is based on ancient Egypt Hosea
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 12, 2008, 04:41:28 PM
the problem goes away

What problem?
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Oskar on September 13, 2008, 07:52:13 AM
What problem?

You know, people disrespecting each other. Negativity breeding more negativity. Then the killings start and all kinds of suffering enter only because people failed to recognize the inalienable right of everyone not to be downpressed nor abused.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 13, 2008, 02:15:49 PM
Yes, I do know of this, Just not as a problem.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: RAS GROWSTRONG on September 13, 2008, 03:02:27 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1478080734151311535&ei=e9TLSMzZCZPeqAO0_5zFAg&q=jah+mason+burn+down&vt=lf&hl=en

Search youtube Jah Mason burn dem down for a purpose - consider the lyrics
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Oskar on September 13, 2008, 05:52:30 PM
People being disrespected downpressed and abused is not a problem? I can't believe you would be saying that.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 13, 2008, 07:15:27 PM
People being disrespected downpressed and abused is not a problem?

Unless your the cause.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Oskar on September 13, 2008, 07:32:04 PM
It's not a problem unless I am the cause? Downpression and abuse is ok as long as I'm not the cause? Let me tell you seomthing. Downpression and abuse is not ok no matter who is the cause.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 13, 2008, 08:32:07 PM
>>Downpression and abuse is ok as long as I'm not the cause? <<

True. But remember that the negligent are also complicit.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Oskar on September 13, 2008, 10:23:57 PM
>>Downpression and abuse is ok as long as I'm not the cause? <<

True
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 14, 2008, 01:26:24 AM
Then Jesus said to his disciples, "If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me."
Which would be impossible without a cross to bear, If your not an oppressor your the victim/victor and vice versa. So I and I give thanks for the enemy everytime.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: RAS GROWSTRONG on September 14, 2008, 01:57:33 AM
downpressing is what an oppressor does ... defending is what the attacked does???

Reaping what you sow is a law ...

2 Peter 1:20-21 (King James Version)

Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jCNp0eUb_w
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 14, 2008, 03:12:28 AM
downpressing is what an oppressor does ... defending is what the attacked does???

Yeah, That's generally how it works.


Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: RAS GROWSTRONG on September 14, 2008, 04:04:01 AM
seen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WODna7qaHmA



Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: natty threads on September 14, 2008, 06:32:22 PM
Yeah, That's generally how it works.




Submission.

Defending isn't taking up the cross.

Look at how Jerusalem survived- even benefited- from Alexander the Great.

Bless up!
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 15, 2008, 02:31:47 AM
Defending isn't taking up the cross.

Sure it is, Its the first step to building a defense. Look how His Majesty and the Jews were crucified/exiled and resurrected/reinstated to Ifend Judah and Inite the world. Taking the cross is not submission to wrong, it is strategy to gain better standing against it. White supremacy counsels I and I to forget their two thousand years crucifixion of us ever happened and remain in the illusion that we are still powerless against them(submission). But its no longer time to turn cheeks. We've already been to hell and back for the Absolute Rule We Have, not some sky g-d fairy handout, Israel will not have someone just come in and mash up the place, let Alexander taste lead this time. NOW and FORIVA!!

Bless Up?
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: RAS GROWSTRONG on September 15, 2008, 01:48:22 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3895141038281742349&ei=zWXOSIGLF6LWqAOpibHEAg&vt=lf&hl=en
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: natty threads on September 16, 2008, 09:18:18 PM
What happened with Alexander?

Why make him taste lead when his greeting was ordained by YHWH?

If taking up the cross is a defense then it is not a selfless, self-effacing act but rather it is self-serving and thus defeats its own purpose.

Allowing the downpressor to force one into defense is admitting they have power that you yourself claim repeatedly only belongs to Yah.

We are not meant to be defensive but to walk in the protection and power and faith in YHWH.
We are to transcend defense/offense not suck into the Babylonian "two-party" system (pressor/pressed).

Bless up.
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 16, 2008, 10:01:56 PM
Why make him taste lead when his greeting was ordained by YHWH?

Key word being "was". Now that the Lion of Judah, the Defender of the Faith has returned, the Ithority of the defense of Israel has become sealed into a divinely protected status as accordingly ordained. True defense is absolutely selfless in that it is aimed at preventing the oppressor from being hurt.






Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: NyaInIJahLove on September 17, 2008, 09:29:03 AM
Yes I
Bless
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: natty threads on September 17, 2008, 07:14:50 PM
If one walks with YHWH no defense is needed.

Defense from what?

Bless up!
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 17, 2008, 07:57:29 PM
Key word being "If", As "Walking with YHWH" is itself a defense against the pestilence of egomaniacal one-upmanship idolatry for example. Eternal triumph takes eternal vigilance in the defense of truth and rights.

Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: prophet777 on April 01, 2009, 08:00:03 PM
Well, there is no such thing as a real bible but, there  is a real I-story and there is a fake one. Most of those things written in that book called "bible" are stolen from another culture. I culture. As for the fake one - me nah deal with it.

Now I have seen many that respond to such a topic with the words - "well HIM a follow/believe/adore it so that is what I am gonna do" (not in those words directly).
Well there are many books that HIM read and knew and could elaborate from - one of them being (according to what I have learned on this matter) "The  6th & 7th books of Moses." Ever read that ?

You would be surprised what HIM read/knew. There are many other books.

But, lets get back to the subject. There are many things in this so called bible that make no sense (ask and I will demonstrate what I mean), many contradictions. Truth (represented by actualness) has no contradictions.

From what I have learned - if I FATHER is in you then why need a book fe explain ? It is in you. Seek it. You do not need no man made, changed, corrupted, book lines to  tell you what to do. It is in you. Seek.
How ? By being your real and true self/by finding out who you really are ? How ? By doing everthing possible. By combining all that is "good." By releasing yourself from the subjegations of this corrupt world, by being free - free. Free from man made rules.

You have to make your SELF free first. Free from modern slavery that captivates your mind. Free from "money chasing." Free from luxury. Free from everything that does not deal with life. Before you do that, it will be very, very, very hard to become you i.e., ONE with the GREAT SPIRIT. Before that your eyes will be blinded into thinking that a book can deliver you or even tell you who you really are.

Got much more to say but, I will refrain for now.

Just I Opinion.

P7
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Ash-Tree on April 03, 2009, 05:55:36 PM
If you are to study anything its best to start from the roots
Title: Re: The Real Bible
Post by: Knowledge on May 23, 2009, 09:52:24 PM
Just want to hail up P777 for his opinion (True Sound)  :D