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Title: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: RAS GROWSTRONG on September 15, 2008, 01:15:04 PM
1 John 2

8Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

 19They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

 20But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.

 21I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.

 22Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

 23Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

 24Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.

 25And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.

 26These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: natty threads on September 16, 2008, 09:12:13 PM
22Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

 23Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.


Bless up!
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: NyaInIJahLove on September 17, 2008, 09:38:32 AM
Yes I
let Jah truth be told
who feels it knows it
Blessed Be
Selah
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: NegusNegustiality on September 20, 2008, 06:02:02 AM
Ises,
Whosoever denieth that Haile Selassie I hath come in flesh is an anti-Christ.

inHIM
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 20, 2008, 02:40:06 PM
BLAZE!
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Human on September 21, 2008, 04:23:58 PM
"Ises,
Whosoever denieth that Haile Selassie I hath come in flesh is an anti-Christ."

I guess there's nothing wrong with that since there are wonderful people in the world who deny it.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 21, 2008, 05:35:51 PM
Fiyah mus have fuel.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: RAS GROWSTRONG on September 21, 2008, 08:44:17 PM
Whosoever denieth that Haile Selassie I hath come in flesh is an anti-Christ.

you got a good point there!
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Human on September 21, 2008, 11:50:38 PM
"Fiyah mus have fuel."

My water will always put out your fire, and move around and through anything you say.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 22, 2008, 12:24:03 AM
Malicious invasion into the peaceable assembly of a faith based congregation to advocate against their faith, Itself negates any challenge made. Such is not welcome in Rastafari reasoning and any who welcome such have no claim to nor any welcome in associating with Rastafari.

Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Human on September 22, 2008, 12:29:43 AM
So please leave then!!!
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 22, 2008, 12:41:03 AM
How exactly have I advocated against the Rastafarian faith?
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Human on September 22, 2008, 12:56:35 AM
By bringing an attitude daily to this forum as of the last year with views of hate and scorn for your so called brothers and sisters in faith who dont see eye to eye with your ways, by daily calling people goyim, heathen, duppies and many other worse names for simply thinking different than you, by never teaching valuable things to ones who need it but instead talking down to them or chastising them for knowledge they dont have due to infancy in this faith, by telling others here you follow the man Hailie Selassie who never did any of these things you do and claiming this is his way. I could go on and on Elijah but no need the people know exactly what im saying, I may have a different view on God and the bible which doesnt hurt anyone of strength but i never call others here names (other than you after repeated names first) and belittle them in harsh ways and call for others to follow me like you do with your repeated crys for ones to help and agree with your ways, no need for me im fine with my belief system, your not and it's clear.

This is how you were compared to now in just a few short years, you have gotten bitter, lonely, angry and have fallen behind in many ways, if you would have moved forward from these thoughts expressed here and gained strength from them you would be a great man, instead you are the equivelent of a child yelling remarks in a classroom full of adults, sad, so sad.

"yes i, come with fear and trembling,  humility, I not only have faith in the bible but all writings, just for fun take the protocals of the learned elders of zion, now I belive it say with the same intinsity that you belive the CAT in the hat, darn thats a true book, does that mean we should Kill? Rob? Rape? Hate? or would we illumine, tolerate. To me you dont need the bible to know there is a god and what that means, it just helps.  Rastafari has been breathed into my life, but i would never say oh dont belive in this or that, do belive it, what you need to see youll see, but if theres one constructive thing i can say here is, let all men be peacefull, even if that takes turning the other cheek, lets put our trust in all that is higher, all peace brothers and sisters, i humble myself before you all"  Elijah 4 years ago on here.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 22, 2008, 01:20:11 AM
"So called brothers and sisters in faith" Who's pestilence is flattery charitably rebuked. Actually I'm fine with your "belief system", Keeps the palace warm.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Human on September 22, 2008, 01:29:04 AM
Yes we've heard it all before, moving on nothing to see here.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 22, 2008, 01:50:39 AM
nothing to see here.

Beep, Crackle, Radio Static...
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: surfmon_I on September 22, 2008, 10:58:33 AM
There they go again, have mercy on us JAH.
Peace be the way.
grow into it.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Oskar on September 22, 2008, 12:26:38 PM
"Ises,
Whosoever denieth that Haile Selassie I hath come in flesh is an anti-Christ."

I guess there's nothing wrong with that since there are wonderful people in the world who deny it.

Wonderful people don't deny it. Wonderful people might be unaware but to deny the existence of HIM is pure wickedness.
Posted on: September 22, 2008, 12:28:24 PM
pure dirty wickedness.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Human on September 22, 2008, 12:45:48 PM
Thats not the point bredrin, how can people deny his existence, he did live, he is in the history books, etc, etc. Good people deny that he was christ return or God and such, that is what im saying. To say that all people who deny HIM as christ is the anti-christ, as to the church type of definition in anti-christ (devil,satan, or followers there of) is plain stupid and shows a real lack of understanding his Majesty, i will say to people who ignorantly say such stupid things...stop following bandwagon psuedo rasta jargon and church type mentality and get back to following his Majesty and his character, never would or did he say such things to anyone who did not recognize jesus as christ or any follower of a different God for that matter. When people say such dumb things as that and claim it is part of Rasta understanding i say it is clearly not, but, it is this "what they preach against" type of attitude handed out by religious fanatics on all sides..."you dont believe in my god therefore your the devil" type of attitude and immaturity.

"There they go again, have mercy on us JAH."

No, dont worry Surfmon, i have grown stronger since then, it is a natural thing for me, unlike others.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: natty threads on September 22, 2008, 01:26:22 PM
We cannot know one another's heart for God.
Only God knows the heart.

People change and become believers.

To call a person an anti-Christ for lack of belief now is to deny the power of God to change and heal hearts.
Don't do it. Don't call anyone the anti-Christ. It is not a charge to take lightly.

I don't mean we shouldn't discuss "Who is the anti-Christ" as a philosophical or scriptural or even political issue, just don't point fingers, especially not at groups.

We aren't judged in groups.
Each of us individually will face God.

Bless up.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Oskar on September 22, 2008, 02:17:32 PM
it is a natural thing for me, unlike others.

Talking like you special Human. Such arrogance. You certainly has acquired that foul stench you blame Elijah for.

If you didn't get what I said I will say it once more. There is nothing wrong with people unaware of who he is. If you deny him however it is pure trickery.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 22, 2008, 03:12:48 PM
There they go again,

The only thing more contemptible than the disruptas actions is ones inaction in its resolution. Fence ridaz fe bun.

Good people deny that he was christ return or God and such,

That's not fundamentally true either. Just as people who never heard of Jesus have the opportunity to be Saved, "Good" people even if unaware that Selassie is JAH will instinctively not deny it. What a wonder how few there are! Only the kind of people who come to Rasta boards to belittle the faith, speak against it, spread false christian propaganda, etc are the Anti Christ. What a wonder how many!
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Human on September 22, 2008, 03:42:13 PM
"Talking like you special Human. Such arrogance. You certainly has acquired that foul stench you blame Elijah for."

Dont even try it, learn to understand what someone is saying, the "unlike others" is meant towards Elijah, who cant, won't, and refuses to acknowledge any fault, wrongdoing, selfishness or any other negative thing on this sight. This is a clear observation for anyone to see, not an arrogance on my part, if you still cant see that than your blind and so be it. Is understanding growth within one self arrogance to you, is moving forward and not willing to revert back to foolish ways arrogance? if so then im arrogant to the bone, deal with it.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Oskar on September 22, 2008, 03:52:24 PM
pure foul trickery.

Posted on: September 22, 2008, 04:50:37 PM
I can't believe I did the same mistake again.  :D
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 22, 2008, 04:45:51 PM
"cant believe I made the same mistake again"
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: surfmon_I on September 22, 2008, 05:05:38 PM
Something wrong with the Middle?, have to be on one side or the other Huh?.  Been accused whole life of being too strong minded, and ignite-able for most.  Found Peace and clarity in Rastafari, even though The Fiyah must fling, I dont want to be da~flinga.  Humility and the quality of the Qusetions posed are what is Important now.
  To Have Wisdom is not to Bun others, but to bring them some light.  Yeh, Fiyah give light but this warmth must be fed.  IandI seek the light which bun from withIn .  No More petty resolutions and outward proclamations, no, no, is just what we do and HOW we live and share this light which mek JAH shine.  Is all bout Love, simple, right?.  Then How Come I got such Blood Fiyah today thinking on How people just dont get it.  Of which I, am apparently one.
  We have got so much more work to do before we get there.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 22, 2008, 05:59:30 PM
News flash, A peace sign ain't going to get it this time. There is no middle. Fence riders side with Babylon. You either fight or die. Rasta is not an idiot trod of underachieving anti semetic whiners no matter how much the jealous want to put things out of place and heap dirt on our names. One cannot just find a website and leech. One must be chosen and of a bloodline. There is no 14 year old spoiled british kid, white privilege/false entitlement element to the trod. There is no paganistic khemetic sufi gnostic alienism, all that is infiltrations. No whimpering one love relativism. These are the absolute realities that must first be accepted. This is not a board for "general discussions of spirituality" No matter how much some inflated fool thinks he belongs, this is a board to discuss Rastafarian faith, How many of you people that run your mouths are Rastafarian? Invading babylonian oppressors pay dearly for violent harassment. Negligent web"master"s giving platform to defamation sedway. The time for apologies has been dun. Fiyah Bun! But now you want to censor Iyah? Stay down then. Makes a nice footstool. Ungrateful blind pride buckets Sucking blood till rasta bun them out.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Human on September 22, 2008, 06:02:46 PM
"To Have Wisdom is not to Bun others, but to bring them some light.".....Just as his Majesty did, thanks Surfmon.

I saw something about a news flash......but it was nothing.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 22, 2008, 06:05:55 PM
G-d corrects who he loves. Even with fire. "It was nothing" is the essence of denial. The reality of anti-christ. The oppressor, the accuser, the enemy, Fiyah bun dem forIva!
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Oskar on September 22, 2008, 06:07:27 PM
One must be chosen and of a bloodline.

Bloodline is racist. Spirit is not dependent on flesh.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 22, 2008, 06:11:25 PM
"Bloodline" is not Racist, Herein lies the significance of being grafted into Israel through faith and the first fruits(rastafari) being Iriginal descendants of the Twelve Tribes. Are you calling His Majesty a Racist because he wrote the authority of his bloodline into the Ethiopian constitution?
Its like Nasir was just saying, "Anytime we talk about our condition they call it reverse racism."
Fiyah Bun the ignorant distraction!
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Oskar on September 22, 2008, 06:17:42 PM
His Imperial Majesty also talked about going beyond past limits and embracing all of humanity. Quite the paradox, no?
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 22, 2008, 06:48:41 PM
Not considering that the people he was talking to ignorantly believe that identifying with a particular bloodline and embracing all of humanity are mutually exclusive.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Oskar on September 22, 2008, 06:56:49 PM
His Majesties words are quite clear...

"We must become bigger than we have been, more courageous, greater in spirit, larger in outlook. We must become members of a new race, overcoming petty prejudice, owing our allegiance not to nations but to our fellow men within the human community."


We must be racist in the sense that we are all part of the same race. Who he was speaking to? United Nations, the world. Oct 6 1963.


We are all from the same root so embracing humanity is not exclusive.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 22, 2008, 07:12:42 PM
Calling the Recognition of Rastafari's Judaic Bloodline "Racist" is itself the petty prejudice to overcome. While without such recognition one can never be the "We" that is to "become bigger".
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Oskar on September 22, 2008, 07:18:33 PM
We all have forefathers. It just doesn't make us different in any way that matters.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 22, 2008, 07:26:46 PM
As the anti-christ would counsel, What lengths will he not go to deny the significance of Israel?
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Human on September 22, 2008, 07:58:52 PM
""We must become bigger than we have been, more courageous, greater in spirit, larger in outlook. We must become members of a new race, overcoming petty prejudice, owing our allegiance not to nations but to our fellow men within the human community."

Thanks Oskar.

Israel, what Israel, that rocky dusty land filled with violence and racism, please there's no significance there, just a bunch of power hungry children. Hawaii, now thats a nice land, waves, beauty, peaceful surroundings, much better, yeah lets meditate on Hawaii shall we...ahhhhhhhh.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 22, 2008, 08:08:15 PM
Israel is a people.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Oskar on September 22, 2008, 08:08:47 PM
Im talking about equal rights that don't exclude anyone.

embracing humanity is not exclusive
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 22, 2008, 08:48:27 PM
Im talking about equal rights that don't exclude anyone.

Only Ignorant of what Justifies Inclusion to begin with.

>Israel is>just a bunch of power hungry children. <

Anti Semitic slander such as this is the foundation of this website and its users.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Oskar on September 22, 2008, 08:58:37 PM
Exclusion is the root problem. The anti-semitism you mention is an example of that as well as anti-christ.

Justification for inclusion is irrelevant if there is no exclusion.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 22, 2008, 09:59:33 PM
Justification for inclusion is only irrelevant if taken for granted. When in reality there could be neither.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Human on September 22, 2008, 11:55:43 PM
Your very good at putting things together that were not to begin with...such as Israel is/power hungry children.

It's ok Elijah i give you permission, Israel is nothing more than a LAND and it is filled with alot of racist power hungry people who cant get along, the Israelites WERE a people who intermarried with many other races and so now to try to point them out is ridiculous and wishful thinking. Nothing anti-semite about what i say, only in the mind of those who throw that word around at every expense, save it for someone who hates jewish people not people who make clear observations. I love Jewish people, I dislike chosen-one racist attitude daydreamers. Facts are facts.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 23, 2008, 01:41:36 AM
The words "Chosen" and "Racist" are thrown together to promote violence. White supremacy assumes its place to "give permission". Rastafari and all His Children are Israelites.

Your very good at putting things together that were not to begin with.

Israel,...., just a bunch of power hungry children.

Lying, Slandering, Nazi Scum.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Human on September 23, 2008, 02:07:31 AM
"Rastafari and all His Children are Israelites"


They are humanity. Israel is no more significance than any other land on this planet, only in the limited mind of the individual does Israel take precedence over another place when it comes to God. The bible is simply the Jewish version of the mysteries, not the authority above all other writings, there is actually much deeper and profound writings explaining much more than the bible and the jewish version of things. Sure if you simply read it as literal you will think it's the ONE proof above others, but, initiates and learned people understand it differently, this is well known to the most learned rabbi's. Besides most learned rabbi's actually study more the Kabbalah than the torah let alone the revised King James bible to learn deeper truths. This is not to say there are not truths in the bible, quite the opposite, but, it is just the jewish version of humanitys origins and lifes mysteries.

The Israelites in the exoteric version were the sons of Jacob, who later went against God at every point in the story and intermarried many races so today it is nonsense to say who they are, the esoteric version and most sensible version is that Jacob stands for matter and Esau stands for spirit and is why Jacob was born holding Esau's heel and Esau was born RED and HAIRY. Jacobs family represented by the number 12 (again as in the significant number littered throughout the bible...hint...hint) is a representation of NATURES forms. Issaic was 3 score years old when she (rebekah) conceived them....a white light shined into a 3 sided prism creates 7 colored rays of the spectrum, this is natures form and him being the number 3 score is a clue to the story. Esau(spirit) sold his birthright to Jacob(matter) so he can produce his family lineage(objective nature). The entire story along with his lie to King Abimelech as to his relationship with Rebekah is of deeper significance when understood esotericaly than exotericaly. This is why the same occurrences in life by Abraham are REPEATED in Jacobs life, re-read the story of both and see they are equal.

I will say this so there is no confusion in my view and it is taken out of context: Support for a symbolical reading of the bible is gained by COMPARISON of the promises of perpetual prosperity and divine protection made by God to Abraham and his succesors with the SUBSEQUENT defeats by invaders, exile under there commands in Babylon and Egypt, and the destruction of the Temples of King Solomon and King David. TO THESE MISFORTUNES may be added the later fate of the Hebrew people, INCLUDING their miseries and homelessness since the Diaspora and the holocaust of German jews under nazi rule. This marked divergence between divine assurances and promises on the one hand and what actually happened on the other provides strong grounds for a NON-LITERAL reading of the sctriptures. The alternative of a TOTAL REJECTION of the pentateuch as being, on the SURFACE, unworthy of serious consideration would, I SUGGEST, involve the LOSS OF INVALUEABLE treasures of wisdom which are revealed when the VEIL OF ALLEGORY AND SYMBOL IS REMOVED.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: surfmon_I on September 23, 2008, 02:16:49 AM
In each person there comes a time when we must solidify our views, the manner in which we project these views shows our level of Overstanding.  There is no doubt about the vast sea of knowledge shown on this site, it has indeed opened many doors.
  It is my view that Jesus Lived/Lives.  It is also my view that His Imperial Majesty King Haile Selassie I Lived/Lives.
It has never been my place to say who God is.  Christ is a different story,  For Jesus came and spread the word, and the world was not ready.  The world was also not ready to stand with His Majesty in the face of the obvious Evil that confronted the world, not too long ago.
  The way this world has developed and the people in it that rally toward the opposite of what these two men stood/stand for are the Anti~Christ.  Those that rack up  offenses in the guise of extremism and in the name of God under a banner of righteousness are the false prophets and are the ones who distract the ones who work in the Lords light.
  To walk a fence takes balance.  From up on the fence one can see both sides.  Always mindful of the exposure one place them self, it is easy to shoot them down.  Those entrenched on one side or the other are muddied crawlers who can never see that the fence need not exsist and that we are One.
  
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 23, 2008, 03:13:58 AM
Israel is no more significance than any other land on this planet,

Again Duppy, Israel is not a land.


To walk a fence takes balance.


Nah, Just cowardice. 

Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: surfmon_I on September 23, 2008, 12:01:08 PM
AGRRRR , :{ , ya got mi!  How easy was that Mud mon?.  Peace be with you, however long it takes for you to get there.  If not this time round, maybe next.
  Bless.
  ~S~

Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Human on September 23, 2008, 02:15:01 PM
"Lying, Slandering, Nazi Scum."   So you say, no worries.

Well said Surfmon_I , always one to listen to, mature, reasonable, kind and thoughtful, a real man no doubt.

Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 23, 2008, 02:45:08 PM
Peace be with you, however long it takes for you to get there.  If not this time round, maybe next.

An Anti Christ disguises His Curse as a Blessing,

"Lying, Slandering, Nazi Scum."  ..... no worries.


Encourages ignorance,...

Quote
mature, reasonable, kind and thoughtful, a real man no doubt.

...and false praise.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: NegusNegustiality on September 23, 2008, 06:59:11 PM
Ises,
It has been said that either one is part of the soulution or part of the problem.  If one is not for the aims of Rastafari as a faith and an exodus, then one must be against it.  A lukewarm vibe is useless in the eyes of the Almighty.  For ones who are still waiting for this Jesus guy, what is it that Haile Selassie I did not fulfill?

inHIM
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: surfmon_I on September 23, 2008, 07:49:11 PM
Negus, I have always wanted and work toward being part of the solution.  For I,  King Selassie fulfill what is to come.
  I do not feel it is right to label ones Anti-Christ unless they speak against either Jesus or His Majesty.  There are not so many Loving Rasta Elders on this site.  I am not one of them, who come to a site and while learning profess what it is to be a Rasta.  Many days go by with no engaging topics which allow for the Love Christ taught and the Patience we are told HIM posess.  Instead we have vague words intoned in between the lines and venom spewing forth from the Head Rasta Here who is Elijah.  I have witnessed so many altercations on this site which are a result of the viscious Aggression which alone belong to those with a poisioned heart.  I choose to Open Mine.  I am not afraid to expose ignorance within Myself, as long as it is met with the Love of Christ.  Many come here with this intent, Big hearts and a sense of openess.
  I do NOT feel someone like myself, with no Rasta peers about should stand and shout about His Majesty, or other matters of Faith, rather be Humble in their approach and respectful while being educated.  There is a reason we are drawn to the Light of His Mjesty, and it is not for only Locks, Reggae music or the Herb.  Still what type of examples do we have on this site from it's members that are Senior Rastas?,  For that matter, when we do not disclose truths about our lives, and our experiences, what is it that we are here sharing?.  It is minds spouting pridefullness.

Elijah, I wear the image of The Sacred Feminine which belonged to my grandfather.  The symbol of Christ facing inward toward my body and The Locks worn for 4 years un touched.  Every day I Iditate on what it means thru King Of Kings to be a Rasta.  I wish we all had better examples from ones in here of the Love we are told Exsist.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 23, 2008, 10:31:08 PM
I am not afraid..... as long as.....

JAH asks more.

Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: surfmon_I on September 24, 2008, 09:01:15 AM
JAH asks more.



Then I shall give it an be Joyful  for the chance.
NuffLove.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: NegusNegustiality on September 24, 2008, 10:05:42 AM
Ises,
Yes Surf I site the whole vibe which is why everyone has now trodded. The vibe here used to majestic but now it is pathetic.  This is never a knock upon Nick because he is not rasponsible for what every member types.  My only rasponse is for ones to live love because as Bob seh "If we get up and quarrel everyday..........

inHIM
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 24, 2008, 01:39:27 PM
Too bad "all those who trodded" never forwarded to realize their inaction is the reason things are pathetic. There is an element of the "silent treatment" that teaches and there is an element that's just vanity. Sheeple Business. What the strategy was just to run away? While duppies suus the name? Not Rasta thinking to begin with. Marvin Gaye was singing "Who really cares? To save a world destined to die?" I had thought it was Rasta. But dem a fight tribal war. You-know-who a go carry the weight again.

Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: blunt on September 24, 2008, 03:48:03 PM
My apologies for being off topic but it does seem popular here at the moment.

Elijah, do you have children?

Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 24, 2008, 07:31:33 PM
Don't be silly son.
Things here would have had to once been on topic for moments off it to be popular.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: blunt on September 25, 2008, 07:49:46 AM
Do you have children Elijah?
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 25, 2008, 03:26:45 PM
Only such could be so manner-less.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: blunt on September 25, 2008, 03:58:02 PM
Are you a parent Elijah?
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 25, 2008, 05:23:06 PM
Not among others.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: blunt on September 25, 2008, 06:06:40 PM
and when alone?
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 25, 2008, 06:40:28 PM
Then yes.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: natty threads on September 25, 2008, 06:52:41 PM
Antichrist is the one who claims divinity yet preaches hatred and foments conflict and strife, on a much grander level than what can be seen on this board, so those with eyes shiny from their own delusions of importance need not trouble themselves that I give them World Power, for which I have as much authority as any other poster here.

Bless up!
Jennifer.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 25, 2008, 07:16:33 PM
A new MENSA speech form from the Palinator no doubt.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Peace_Loving on September 26, 2008, 11:10:59 AM
In each person there comes a time when we must solidify our views, the manner in which we project these views shows our level of Overstanding.  There is no doubt about the vast sea of knowledge shown on this site, it has indeed opened many doors.
  It is my view that Jesus Lived/Lives.  It is also my view that His Imperial Majesty King Haile Selassie I Lived/Lives.
It has never been my place to say who God is.  Christ is a different story,  For Jesus came and spread the word, and the world was not ready.  The world was also not ready to stand with His Majesty in the face of the obvious Evil that confronted the world, not too long ago.
  The way this world has developed and the people in it that rally toward the opposite of what these two men stood/stand for are the Anti~Christ.  Those that rack up  offenses in the guise of extremism and in the name of God under a banner of righteousness are the false prophets and are the ones who distract the ones who work in the Lords light.
  To walk a fence takes balance.  From up on the fence one can see both sides.  Always mindful of the exposure one place them self, it is easy to shoot them down.  Those entrenched on one side or the other are muddied crawlers who can never see that the fence need not exsist and that we are One.
  

Well said, Surfmon!

Bless
Posted on: September 26, 2008, 05:58:44 AM
It seems to me that the antichrist would be anyone or any establishment who is against or persecutes sincere study and worship the True Blessed One.

There are many rooms in Jah Mansion with many paths to reach there, not true?
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: surfmon_I on September 26, 2008, 12:01:22 PM
Give Thanks,
 When the rain fall, it no fall on only one man house, it rain on others too.  Many rooms, still ONE HOUSE.
Still, we go Forward.
 BlessedLove.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on September 26, 2008, 03:17:50 PM
There are many rooms in Jah Mansion with many paths to reach there, not true?

Christ say "I am the way" and "No one come but through me". So it only one path. But many rooms for each I have different purpose in JAH kingdom.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Higginz on October 08, 2008, 05:35:34 PM
The Anti-Christ is the one who holds himself higher, and above other humans. Uses this for materialist purposes and lets other be killed for his cause. All men and wombmen of corrupt materialistic power, whether voted on, or given power through bloodlines. As long as they use their power for ill, materialist cause. They are Anti-Christ.

Quote from: Haile Selassie I
That until the philosophy which holds one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned: That until there are no longer first-class and second class citizens of any nation; That until the color of a man's skin is of no more significance than the color of his eyes; That until the basic human rights are equally guaranteed to all without regard to race; That until that day, the dream of lasting peace and world citizenship and the rule of international morality will remain but a fleeting illusion, to be pursued but never attained and until the ignoble but unhappy regimes that hold our brothers in Angola, in Mozambique, and in South Africa in subhuman bondage have been toppled and destroyed; until bigotry and prejudice and malicious and inhuman self-interest have been replaced by understanding and tolerance and goodwill; until all Africans stand and speak as free human beings, equal in the eyes of the Almighty; until that day, the African continent shall not know peace.

And so, is justified the hate within Israel. Israel is of significance, hate or no hate, it is of significance. Roots and history is to be held high and remembered through the Holy Scripture.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on October 08, 2008, 05:58:37 PM
Power bestowed by bloodline is negated through corruption. And war does not equal hate.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Higginz on October 08, 2008, 06:53:32 PM
Power bestowed by bloodline is negated through corruption. And war does not equal hate.

This I realise, but wars can still be fought in hate, though they need not through force of necessity. And in the end, both sides will hate.

Power bestowed through bloodline is not always negated through corruption. A king can be as corrupt as a president and still have his throne. One that downpresses the people will keep them so, and in modern times, sometimes through ignorance of the populace. A materialist king is always richer than his people, and he always keeps something for himself that would be better used in Inity of his land and its populace. The only fit and able king is His Majesty.

I government is the Bible, and I king is Selassie.

Blessings.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on October 09, 2008, 10:22:21 PM
Power bestowed through bloodline is not always negated through corruption.
Perhaps not immediately, but always eventually.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Higginz on October 10, 2008, 10:15:38 AM
Perhaps not immediately, but always eventually.

Eventually indeed, but in most cases through generations of corruptness.

Blessings.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on October 10, 2008, 02:05:27 PM
What your referring to is more aptly described as inheritance than "power transmuted through bloodline" though.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Higginz on October 10, 2008, 03:44:49 PM
What your referring to is more aptly described as inheritance than "power transmuted through bloodline" though.

A monarch government needs a bloodline to be run, though it is inheritance in one way, the prince/princess has to share the blood of the ruler in question.

It is a complicated matter...
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: I ELIJAH I on October 10, 2008, 05:00:06 PM
Power granted "through" the bloodline of what on account of the King of Kings are now exclusively limited monarchies are no longer distinguishable from that bestowed by voting.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Higginz on October 10, 2008, 05:12:58 PM
Power granted "through" the bloodline of what on account of the King of Kings are now exclusively limited monarchies, are only nominally a function of the blood.

As I said, it is a complicated matter... I am not an expert on this, and fear I have little more to bring to the discussion of bloodlines effect in modern monarchy.

May His Majesty bless you.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Knowledge on March 02, 2009, 01:17:07 PM
If saying that

I don't believe in Jesus Christ as portrayed in the bible
I don't believe in an immaculate conception
I don't believe he died on the cross
I contend there is no jesus as portrayed within the bible, in history.
I hate the church, as set up by Peter, Paul and Philo  on behalf of the system

then I suppose by definition that I must be one of them
 ;)
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: 0ne L0ve on April 15, 2009, 04:21:05 AM
Im against NObody but now we talking about christs lets say im ANTI muslim
cuz they are the reason for all the hate
and murder in the world as they try to conquer the world
for therre self and rule everything by their selfisch hypocritical believe
i mean everybody have a right to believe in a religion Right ??
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Oskar on April 15, 2009, 01:57:27 PM
cuz they are the reason for all the hate
and murder in the world as they try to conquer the world
for therre self and rule everything by their selfisch hypocritical believe

You got that definition of babylon quite right all by yourself but saying that it equals muslim is not right because not every muslim is like that.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: 0ne L0ve on April 15, 2009, 08:46:21 PM
You got that definition of babylon quite right all by yourself but saying that it equals muslim is not right because not every muslim is like that.


Oooh Alriiiight now i kno what it means xD

i equals muslim with it and as i said i go to a multi cultural school...
and listen how they call me just for da reason that im not a muslim hah.
so thats why i hate dem BESIDE african muslims i see alot of them herre and they just live
in this community like anyone else so i cant hate dem i only can wish a great future for them and a good life but im talking about

People,s from Algeria, Morroco , Arabics , afghanistan , iraq those specific people
and everybody knows that wherre terrorisme is are muslims from those spefific countrys that i called

i dont want to hate them but they made me do it as more they bugg me about it the bigger my hate,s get to them


and i dont get it if the western world gets seen as the Babylon why does europe and america fight terrorisme and why do we help people
that got stuck in nature disasters ??? i mean wdf ???? i see more thesse Extreme muslims country,s azz babylon cuz their religion keep thesse people dumb n only have them get hate for Non muslims =S

But what ever i dont care about them i think and believe that rastafari is the truth and could change the world .
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Oskar on April 16, 2009, 04:06:17 AM
Typical propaganda technique, spewing hate and blaming the victims of the war effort for it. It's how the 'ruling elite' fool the people into war every time.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: 0ne L0ve on April 16, 2009, 07:22:37 PM
Typical propaganda technique, spewing hate and blaming the victims of the war effort for it. It's how the 'ruling elite' fool the people into war every time.

If thats what you think ill Respect that but
i could Miss those Extreme muslim country,s liek a headache
cuz i repeat again they cause hate and wars in this world
no not because bush said so cuz in real life its the same and
i have talked wid a teacher about it on my school and he agree's with me

But what ever

Rastafari forever Might the world Unite Soon and let therre be One love
let us make this World a place without Hate racism or discrimination Thats sumething i always wanted
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Oskar on April 17, 2009, 02:53:03 AM
Another propaganda technique, repeat over and over again the same falseness until people believe it. Excluding those muslim from your love and unity is sure to make(keep) them your enemy. If you want this world to be more love and less hate, start with yourself.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: 0ne L0ve on April 17, 2009, 04:43:21 AM
Another propaganda technique, repeat over and over again the same falseness until people believe it. Excluding those muslim from your love and unity is sure to make(keep) them your enemy. If you want this world to be more love and less hate, start with yourself.

No offence dude but what does propaganda have to deal with reality? i see it with my own eyes
how thesse people deal with other religions and race,s come to my city n ill show you how it is...
and starting wid myself as i said i dont wanted to hate dem they f*cked it up for their self...

And im done with this i got my toughts about it you got your toughts about it and thats it
cuz we can keep disscusing till 1 off us gone drop death to the ground  ;) and it wont be me
cuz My Zodiac Sign is a Leo ;) so i wont give up that quick xD
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Oskar on April 17, 2009, 08:52:48 AM
Propaganda got nothing to do with reality. That's my point. I'm sorry if you have met some bad muslims but if you judge every muslim from the few you have met that is your prejudice.

Further, blaming your hate on those you hate shows me that you are not in control of your self. Being stubborn about being out of control don't impress me.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: 0ne L0ve on April 17, 2009, 08:28:37 PM
Propaganda got nothing to do with reality. That's my point. I'm sorry if you have met some bad muslims but if you judge every muslim from the few you have met that is your prejudice.

Further, blaming your hate on those you hate shows me that you are not in control of your self. Being stubborn about being out of control don't impress me.

Dude im tired of this you realy dont wanna
listen to me about what i say i face it each day how
North africans are being racists against black and white people
i see how it is each day how dey dissrespect jews how dey beat up a non muslim
in groups of 4 or 5 people n den you tryin to make me clear that imma bloody fool

Im done wid dis topic ...it doesent make sence to make sumething
clear to you cuz your da 1 being stubborn
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Oskar on April 18, 2009, 05:24:40 AM
I'm not denying your experiences. I'm simply saying that what you describe is not necessarily muslim behaviour and that definitely not all muslims behave in the way you describe. Bad people are found in most if not all walks of life and so are good people.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Knowledge on May 06, 2009, 05:00:56 PM
Im against NObody but now we talking about christs lets say im ANTI muslim
cuz they are the reason for all the hate
and murder in the world as they try to conquer the world
for therre self and rule everything by their selfisch hypocritical believe
i mean everybody have a right to believe in a religion Right ??

I don't really overstand your viewpoint, you state you aint against nobody, then start to rain upon the muslim. How does that work? For it's not the muslim alone who is seeking to conquer the world - a de whole a dem. If you bun one then you might as well bun the all. Cos they are all into it.
You then state that everyone has a right to believe in a religion, Right?? - My response to that assertion is a resounding No!  I don't think so.
But then again that's my viewpoint.  I ain't chanting you down but in response to your last rhetorical question and to amplify my last point, I feel that everyone should have the right to leave religion behind and focus on the truth!!
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Oskar on May 07, 2009, 02:03:36 PM
The right to leave any religion, yeah I agree, including the right to leave the one called politics.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Knowledge on May 07, 2009, 04:43:42 PM
A true sound.

But remember The politics is just one strand of the agenda, Along with the Religion, Mis-Education, military etc. Together they form the cohesion that keeps the system functioning or malfunctioning depending on your viewpoint. Indeed there are many things that have to be disengaged from the psyche.

"Seek for the irreducible minimum and you will start to see the 'distant light'". That is a quote for us all and not directed solely to de I. But remember one thing, when you see the 'distant light', one will know where the path lies.
Posted on: May 07, 2009, 05:32:00 PM
Ps I didn't say the right leave any religion I said religion.

Please note that I am not a 'religious' person. I don't favour one religion over another, there all the same in essence, So I don't discriminate in that way. To be clear I am a person of LIVITY and positiveness. I am seeking for truth, that is my purpose to seek for the truth to acquire (and also disseminate) knowledge and ideas (food for thought) whilst I am passing through this World/Iration/Unreality/Madness/ which ever term you want to use.

I ask questions of things I don't know, I aspire for the truth. I condemn that which is untrue and I will challenge the ridiculous. 



Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Oskar on May 07, 2009, 06:46:05 PM
Ps I didn't say the right leave any religion I said religion.

True. What I meant also.

I assume when you said religion you meant belief system. That's why I mentioned politics as that too is a system that people choose to believe in, rules to live by etc. Politicians looking for converts(votes) and the people looking for their leader/priest(politician) to lead them.

I was just reasoning on in how far one religion would be allowd to rule another and I think ackording to the human rights one is not supposed to interfere with another.

Mentioning military I suspect it is more about space and there I think that even within one country there is more than one religion so there is even space within the space(there is more than one party in the political system). I don't think there is a clause to justify the military of one religion to rule over another. Not even when one religion is bigger than the next which is basically the democratic rule broken down in simplicity. Teaching people to gang up on eachother to rule them, all the while looking all 'civilized'.

All the system is supposed to do is mediate between people in civilized manner and to make sure agreements are honored etc.

Christ is an upright person. Anti Christ is a scammer liar and a thief.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Knowledge on May 14, 2009, 10:56:29 PM
Christ is an upright person. Anti Christ is a scammer liar and a thief.

I am glad that you believe you know the upright person Jesus. Because I can't find him nowhere inna history.
As for the Anti Christ -to all intents and purpose that's the one who sits in Vatican, and I agree with your description - to the fullest. :)

So how come him a bawl for Jesus all de while?  Fancy that Anti Christ -supporting Jesus -How Ironic.... ::) Prophecy ah reveal ;)
   
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: Oskar on May 15, 2009, 02:55:55 AM
I wonder how could an upright person not support what Jesus is teaching? A scammer/liar can support anything because they don't necessarily always deal with truth/lie.
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: NyaInIJahLove on June 18, 2009, 03:44:58 PM
Interestingly and vitally -
The Shamanic worldview is not based on Faith but is purely experiential
as is the Mystic or renunciate/Adept etc Path of the Pathless and yet "The Way" for all who strive in the inner worlds and the Unverse of Light , trodding their own route, with Guidance alongside Bredren and Sistren from all Ages, To Soul Light and True Reality/Home/ZIon
and if one delves into our ancient past and even the Present Moment
we find that the experiences of a Shaman, Medicine Man or Woman or a Clever Man or Woman...etc
is much closer in similarity of experience as The One known as THe Christ/ KST/Anointed ONe
in regards to Miraculous Healings, Prophecy, communing with Spirits/Receiving Spiritual Guidance
than the Organised, Churchical "Christianty" practised(?) widely thru the western world
although is neva can or would want to be separate from the reality of Religion as practiced with morality and integrity
These Ancient Truths were stolen by ones who claimed to represent Christ
Our Blessed Culture ripped asunder
and many Healers and Peaceful Warriors,
Ivotional Artists and Visionaries have been tortured and crushed by their hands
their lands stolen and songs and sacred journey aids forbidden
Anti-Christ works against Love and Healing, is malevolent and dishonest
That force hides malevolence in the guise of benevolence
it is poisonous and destructive
it uses force/Power over and is fear-based and scarcity based
seen in evidence that which steals energy
although it is forgivable as it is ignorance and in essence not real
unless we give it life and feed the machine that is pure destruction
is their such a thing?

already it has lost

for all who feed it lose

Good ova evil
I I S
(In I sight)
Praise HIM
I n I do
Blessed Love
Title: Re: Who is a Anti Christ
Post by: natty threads on November 12, 2009, 07:19:17 AM
That force hides malevolence in the guise of benevolence
it is poisonous and destructive
it uses force/Power over and is fear-based and scarcity based
seen in evidence that which steals energy
although it is forgivable as it is ignorance and in essence not real
unless we give it life and feed the machine that is pure destruction
is their such a thing?



Don't feed the machine.

Don't fall for the deception.

Yah bless.
Love,
Jennifer