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Title: Obama Now President
Post by: NY_Son_Of_Jah on November 05, 2008, 04:06:37 AM
WHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Obama is prez!!! Thank Jah!!! I am so elated!! How bout you Idren???
Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: paco on November 05, 2008, 06:06:08 AM

  wowwwww, i never thot i'd live long enough to see this day. i seen many folks crying, me too (tears of joy&gratitude) over the election of Obama. i finally got a glimce of the real america.

                       blessings all/ways
Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: surfmon_I on November 05, 2008, 09:11:31 AM
  I awoke at 2 am, to go and check the news.  A dream come true, after long months of waiting, and not daring to think it outloud, for things have a way of turning when we least expect it.  But NOT this.  It is a Blessing pon the world This man has been chosen.  Voted by the People, chosen by The Most I.  May JAH protect him for the works that we must do now.  Heal this world thru the power of Love.  Working together for eachother.  The time has come to level the playing field and join in the Joy of Living for ALL people.  Let us join together for All we may become together.
  All Thanks and Glory to The Most I ~ JAH !
Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: NY_Son_Of_Jah on November 05, 2008, 11:23:29 PM
I cried with joy last night... You know, Martin Luther King Jr. had a dream.........
Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: Higginz on November 06, 2008, 10:31:15 PM
It is great to see how far prejudice and racism has come to its destruction. Wonderful.

But that does not change the fact the fact that this is blasphemy. Of course it is good to see, in one way. But on the other hand, the people of the world are separated because of the disagreements these presidents bring to one and other. "Islam that" and "Christian this", is the fault of Obamas(Partially, but not exclusively) predecessors, and I do not see this man stopping it in near future.

Democracy is supposed to be the peoples system, yet the people complain about it. If you have voted, you must bear the responsibility of the wars, the misery, the poverty, the segregation. You must understand the meaning and tragedy of war, and then you must accept it as your children get sent there. You have not earned the right to protest or rebel, for it is you that brought the need for it.

And such is the hypocrisy of democracy. Ballot box must be empty for freedom to begin.

Only jah will unite the people.
Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: NY_Son_Of_Jah on November 06, 2008, 10:40:48 PM
We certainly have the right. We the people don't vote on laws, the politricksters do who have been enveloped in corruption. Such is the way of Babylon.We have the right to protest because our eyes are clouded by the illusion that our votes count in the presidential election. VOTE for the principle and the legitimacy of the president. But we have the right to protest because the electoral colleges vote overrides the popular vote. So, if Obama won the popular vote and lost the electoral vote, McCain  would be pres. Which is Babylon's illusion of freedom. Don't get me wrong, the priviledge to vote is grat and influential, but it isnt a decider and you should do it anyways. And i'm still SO happy about Obama. BUT the evils of politics... Such is the way of Babylon... Jah help us all....
Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: natty threads on November 07, 2008, 05:05:39 AM
I'm happy that so many Americans are happy.
I'm a little irked that the rest of the world wants to have a say.

The rest of the world wants the US out of their politics, so HELLO!

It was a crooked crooked election full of crooked crooked humans.
There was no need.
Obama was going to win anyway.
The vagaries only serve to diminish his accomplishment and his range of support.

Democracy is not a Godly rule.

Higgenz- I've been torn by that thought, but here in Alaska so many local issues are decided by just a few votes and I'm brainwashed by my citizenship.

But I am praying for Obama.
Praying that my country develops some internal peace and acceptance.
Praying that all goes well and the election isn't challenged.

BUT

Let me say

Obama is NOT a Godly man.

He is fighting for absolute any time any situation right to abortion,
and this is the abomination-

Obama while on the Illinois state legislature voted AGAINST a bill that would provide for the care and feeding of infants- third trimester babies- you know, through the eighth month or so- who have the AUDACITY to survive a late-term abortion.

What?

If an unwanted baby is born in the process of his or her mother's attempt to have a medical professional kill it before it is born, OBAMA SAYS DO NOT FEED IT. IT IS NOT A BABY. IT IS THE PRODUCT OF A LATE-TERM ABORTION.

How can such a man have any compassion for anyone at all?
He voted to let these babies die.
They can't be killed once they are born, but they can be left to die, which they were until the Illinois state legislature outvoted him on that.

And now he will be president.

I am praying for him- for his heart to soften and his neck to bend- for him to quit condoning sacrificing babies to the fire.

I am happy that so many people are happy.
And I hope he doesn't really do EVERYthing he says he's going to do.
In fact, I'm praying he doesn't.

Bless up!

Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: paco on November 07, 2008, 06:16:16 AM


  greetings, obamanos !! obama was gonna be president anyways about as much as bush and dick were the last eight years. for years i would tell folks, i know who was gonna win the presidency, they say who? i would say the white guy, couldn't say that this year. i believe this a jackie robinson moment. jackie was the first black man to play in the major leagues of baseball and what a great player and human being he was. he took alot of racial abuse. this moment is juss like that. obama won becuz of a high young people (of all races) and people of color turnout to vote. according to what i heard obama did not get the majority of the 'white' vote. for sure this is an exciting and heartfelt moment imo. many, many people of all races were gunned down and lost their lives for this moment, this was part of what martin luther king was dreaming about now is obama the man/woman to bring change? i don't know-- we'll see. but no doubt inna my mind this is a big change in the vibes of us history. now imo, for those of us who recognize the 'moment' we need to pray to the all mighty, creator, jah for the protection and safety of obama and his family. there's still toooo many diseased/hatefilled yahoo types out there that are really angry over what juss happened. and these types kill. so pray for him.

                         viva obama!
Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: Higginz on November 07, 2008, 01:49:41 PM
We certainly have the right. We the people don't vote on laws, the politricksters do who have been enveloped in corruption.

And still you vote for them. A vote for president is a vote for a materialist government(In its entirety, not just the president), and vote for materialism is a vote for Babylon.

Such is the way of Babylon.We have the right to protest because our eyes are clouded by the illusion that our votes count in the presidential election.

You reap what you sow, and to protest the government is to contradict your ruler of which you have VOLUNTARILY chosen as your ruler. It is your own choice to rid yourself of illusion, make the choice, Idren. Because all voting ever does is support them.

Voting is blasphemy as it contradicts the evolution towards a unified, stronger, and better people(Do not confuse this with Illuminati, as there is difference between idiocy and unification.). Democracy is blasphemy, as I and I will not choose, nor swear to, any other other ruler than the almighty King Selassie I, JAH, RasTafarI. But apparently, Obama is his equal?

VOTE for the principle and the legitimacy of the president.

What principle is to be found in a man, supposed equal to others(Read: The Bible), but who is still held their superior? And the legitimacy of presidency has long been lost...

But we have the right to protest because the electoral colleges vote overrides the popular vote. So, if Obama won the popular vote and lost the electoral vote, McCain  would be pres. Which is Babylon's illusion of freedom.

And so by voting, you give in to that illusion, while knowing it exists. Why?

Don't get me wrong, the priviledge to vote is grat and influential, but it isnt a decider and you should do it anyways. And i'm still SO happy about Obama. BUT the evils of politics... Such is the way of Babylon... Jah help us all....

The privilege is no more than an illusion. A voluntary removal of freedom. And to do something just because you can, is no good reason to do it.

I understand your happiness, it's a good thing he was voted above McCain. But nonetheless, The lesser of two evils.
Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: Ras Saadon on November 07, 2008, 08:46:24 PM
InI know absolutely nothing about Obama, but the fact that the USA choose a Black man for president is truly history in making, one thing Iman do wonder is that everyone is talking about how Martin Luther King dream came true ect`, but not once(at least here in Israel) did InI hear them talk about Marcus Garvey who preceded all other, why is that? is it different in the USA or do they neglect all the work he has done there as well?

Jah Bless,
Ras Saadon.   
Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: Higginz on November 07, 2008, 09:27:48 PM
InI know absolutely nothing about Obama, but the fact that the USA choose a Black man for president is truly history in making, one thing Iman do wonder is that everyone is talking about how Martin Luther King dream came true ect`, but not once(at least here in Israel) did InI hear them talk about Marcus Garvey who preceded all other, why is that? is it different in the USA or do they neglect all the work he has done there as well?

Jah Bless,
Ras Saadon.   

Yes man, it's great that they elected him for president, as far as skin color goes. I loved the scene where he held hands with Biden. Strong stuff.

Marcus Garvey is more or less neglected outside of the Caribbean, I think... I'm sorry to say, and i hope I am wrong...
Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: NY_Son_Of_Jah on November 07, 2008, 10:31:33 PM
Higginz, InI overstand you completely. InI dislike politics in general as i think its evil. I dislike the illusion of the greatness of our democracy, but the ignorant people of I's country don't change easily and are against any other way but our own. I don't believe it is the lesser of two evils, for I dont think obama has been tainted yet by politricks. He is the good in a lake of evil. So yea, I overstand and agree with you, but i don't think Babylon would ever let go of it's ways, for our people are ignorant. But don't ever loose faith in the impossible... Jah will give us a way for good and love to envelope the world. Respect and One Love.
Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: Higginz on November 07, 2008, 10:47:36 PM
Higginz, InI overstand you completely. InI dislike politics in general as i think its evil. I dislike the illusion of the greatness of our democracy, but the ignorant people of I's country don't change easily and are against any other way but our own. I don't believe it is the lesser of two evils, for I dont think obama has been tainted yet by politricks. He is the good in a lake of evil.

But he is not Selassie I, he can not bring the impossible, especially not in a local election! They're all tainted, leaders among men always are. And the road to change is never easy, there is always one who must take the initiative.

So yea, I overstand and agree with you, but i don't think Babylon would ever let go of it's ways, for our people are ignorant. But don't ever loose faith in the impossible... Jah will give us a way for good and love to envelope the world. Respect and One Love.

Once I was blind, but now I can see. Ignorance is but an illusion to break. We all were ignorant once. No one but jah can bring the peace and love needed.

Blessings.
Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: paco on November 08, 2008, 12:21:42 AM


    don't know if these r correct, thot someone mite injoy them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIiae5Pu234

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0FiCxZKuv8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkTnUxLjO2E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuU7bEqKcLk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5h95s0OuEg&NR=1
Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: Ras Shawn Naphtali on November 09, 2008, 01:29:22 AM
Yeah I have to agree.  It's good a black family are in the White House but Obama isn't the saviour.  The expectations now on him across the world are unthinkable in scale.  We shouldn't be looking for qualities in Obama that we aren't looking for in ourselves.

Even though the presidency is a powerful position it is still a puppet position to those in real power.  Obama isn't about to start dismantling the structures of white supremacy and start being all black radical. I believe he has a good heart, but politics is politics and he has to play that game.

It was great to see the world support a black man.  Good on him and I hope he does well, but he isn't the saviour, and the day we put our faith blindly in politicians is the day when complacency has set in, and we may as well give up and watch tv all day.  This is not the fulfillment of Martin Luther King's dream.  In later life he was talking about the redistribution of wealth from the rich to the poor.  We are nowhere near the mountain top.  We have only just landed in the same country as the mountain. 

Iron sharpens Iron so let us not get too seduced but the game of politics.  Yes it was an historic day, but only time will tell if it was a good day.  Wish him well, but with Obama busy doing his thing, we got to keep up the Works and keep on doing ours regardless.

The vote between the democrats and republicans is like being made to choose between Chedder Cheese and Cottage Chesse.  Is that really a choice?  That's representative democracy, but not total democracy.  I hope this event will inspire more of the youth to achieve their dreams in life.  That is the real message of this event.  The message is not that because America voted for a black man that racism is dying.  If we buy the second message at the expense of the first message, then we have seriously misread the signs, and be worse off as a result!

Iron sharpens Iron.  Let's have as high expectations of ourselves as we do with anyone else, including the President Elect of the USA. 

Blessed Love,

Ras Shawn Naphtali

p.s.

Dead Prez - PolitricKKKs

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=O3-R4xl80Fc (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=O3-R4xl80Fc)


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=O3-R4xl80Fc
Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: paco on November 09, 2008, 05:30:24 AM


           seems like it maybe a generational thing. to us older folks i suppose it was an important happening. i agree with much of what is being xpressed on this thread concerning obama not being the answer, still something was going on inside of me that i could not contain; like i said maybe it's juss a generational thing. i know obama is an imperialist like the rest and he promises more war, i'm aware of that yet i'm so glad bush and dick r gone and bombs away mccain didn't get in.

    http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=873&Itemid=1
Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: natty threads on November 09, 2008, 05:35:02 AM
Marcus Garvey wasn't a socialist who promoted infanticide so that "My daughters won't be punished with a baby."

I am praying for him.

How can a Ras promote a man who legislates the death of babies?

What am I missing?

OH- maybe he is the antichrist.

I laughed at that, but now there is a mountain in Aruba named for him.

SAY WHAT?

NAME A MOUNTAIN FOR THE BABIES HE REFUSED TO ALLOW TO BE FED.

Bless up.
Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: surfmon_I on November 09, 2008, 12:15:48 PM
  Greetings I~dren,  I and I can cee that there are feelings bout Obama, funny how these things did not come out before the election and the time chose is after when the dust and rhetoric has subsided.  A few Interesting points have been made.
  Natty, I have been keeping up with the Obama Wave ever since and have never heard the things mentioned of him saying a lateterm birth should be left to starve.  Link us to it if possible. 
  Higginzs point of Democracy is Blasphemous can be seen but, what other system is proposed?.  In the past the very Kings JAH Chose for us were not willing to follow the Covenant and so the people followed the kings.  Democracy, as far as I have been a part of is the exerscise of an Individual's right to be repersent in voice to the election of a leader.  It always seem that ones on the outskirts point fingers at the center and say it is not the way.  From this vantage point there is not much sucess in getting the people moving in a different direction, it must happen from withIn.  If we are to change the direction, we must start where the concentration is greatest and lead in the flow that is Most beneficial to the Many.
  Ras Shawn, There are some KEY words The I use in the posting.   Complacency.   THIS word is the very next word that came to mind after it was learned Obama had Earned the Presidency.  It is NOT time to heap pon the shoulders of the man, but time for WE to Stand up and lead by example.  Hold him and Our office accountable for both policy and practice.

  It is the first time, in a long time, that we feel PART of Democracy, not just Victims of it.  This is what energizes the youth into seeing and ACTING as ONE.  Though the same object may bee seen thru many differing lenses, we are still looking at the same thing.  and so to minimalize the Importance of this time or to demonize this hopeful new direction is just sour grapes.  I can only shutter to think what I man would feel if McCain / Palin would have one.  We have been battered successively for many, many years now with the false conception that our wealth is a personal thing.  There is NO WAY that anytime we divide into "you" and "me"  that we loose the I in I.  Let this stand as the shattering of a strangle grip on WE.  It is a new day and forward is the only direction time will allow.  We must see and Hold the Positive course to the Children we must become for the tomorrow of our dreams.  Hold the Most I close in heart and Mind and let our Bodies come along for the ride.  We are in a time of Sufferation and Sacrifice is the only way through.  It is in the hearts and Minds of many now that this new threshold has been achieved.  Do not let the negativity of Babylon diminish this Blessed Transformation, for it starts right here, behind these eyes looking out at a hopeful world.  Hope that has JAH as Driver and Pure heart as an engine.  Drive Mistah Drivah.
Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: Peace_Loving on November 09, 2008, 12:57:41 PM
Good post Surfmon_I!  I agree we must stand up and lead by example.

Bless UP!
Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: Higginz on November 09, 2008, 03:53:40 PM
 Higginzs point of Democracy is Blasphemous can be seen but, what other system is proposed?.  In the past the very Kings JAH Chose for us were not willing to follow the Covenant and so the people followed the kings.  Democracy, as far as I have been a part of is the exerscise of an Individual's right to be repersent in voice to the election of a leader.  It always seem that ones on the outskirts point fingers at the center and say it is not the way.  From this vantage point there is not much sucess in getting the people moving in a different direction, it must happen from withIn.  If we are to change the direction, we must start where the concentration is greatest and lead in the flow that is Most beneficial to the Many.

An alternative to democracy is having no ruler, or even dictatorship, seeing how the people don't carry the responsability of the leader in that case. But in truth, a temporary leader is far from necessary, as people are more than capable of leading their own life. And the leaders generally represented by the individuals voice refuse to follow the covenant as well. And so the people follow Satan.

Ask yourself as to where your own place is, the outskirts or the center? Conform with the political correctness that is Satan(modern satanism is in no way related to Satan or the worship thereof, but materialism and the worship thereof.), or the religious correctness that is Jah?

As for the benefit for the many, I see none. America is not the many, the western globe is not many, the people whose lives they fuck(I'm sorry, but seriously.) up are. I am not free to do as I please, I am not free to disobey any law set by man, but am forced to break those of Jah. I don't want the ethical schooling, the privacy conflict, and I don't want voting to effect me when I don't want anything to do with it. And most of all, I don't want to have war on my hands. And I see no reason why every single politician (and the people who voted for him/her) who has ever, in any and/if all case(s), supported any war, shouldn't be in jail for murder, rape, assault, breach of privacy, general disrespect for life and feelings, personal attacks, denial, ignorance. It is every voters responsability as well as the presidents.

One cannot deny the consequences of their action.
Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: paco on November 10, 2008, 05:07:15 AM
Marcus Garvey wasn't a socialist who promoted infanticide so that "My daughters won't be punished with a baby."

I am praying for him.

How can a Ras promote a man who legislates the death of babies?

What am I missing?

OH- maybe he is the antichrist.

I laughed at that, but now there is a mountain in Aruba named for him.

SAY WHAT?

NAME A MOUNTAIN FOR THE BABIES HE REFUSED TO ALLOW TO BE FED.

Bless up.


harsh stuff sis, seems to me. it nice u gonna pray for him tho. maybe he turn out good for country after what we all been thru the last 8 years. they named a mountain after him? well he not the first. they carved the faces of four presidents on a mountain in the sacred black hills of the lakota's. and these guys were slave owners and responsible for millions of deaths. maybe obama will do some good. blessings sis.   
Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: Ras Shawn Naphtali on November 10, 2008, 04:40:47 PM
Greetings

Just a few quick words on this topic.

This issue has been debated in a strong manner every single day over on the Rastafari Speaks message board since July 6th this year.  (I remember the date as it came couple days after Independence Day, after I posted a pro-Obama message as an agitation for July 4th).

I'm going to try and resist saying much else on this topic as I don't want to contribute to vibes to tearing the brother down and I hope he does well.  Just know that critique is not about Obama personally, but more about the structure and motivations of the structure that sees him where he is today.  I hope and pray in all my heart he is the fulfillment of InI dreams.  BUT he could also be the most dangerous instrument used against InI if he is being used to quieten the racism debate to get us all happy clappy in a false sense of security, thinking we've arrived now.  All our hopes pinned on the one man.  A man that can be used as a scapegoated at any time by the structures behind the man, bringing all our hopes down with him twice as hard and fast as the assent. 

Rasta is in the world, but not of it.  That is InI position as taught by InI Elders.  We best to remember that teachment in these heady times.

Blessed Love one and all.

Ras Shawn Naphtali
 
Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: UKBlaza on November 11, 2008, 10:07:47 AM
The problem with the current Global Power Bases is that they were set up by those who enjoy full and 'unlimited access' to the goods and services on offer in society. Essentially, what we have is a system of State Socialism for the wealthiest people on the planet (the Bank Bail Outs clearly highlights this observation). The people who enjoy such unlimited access to all of the goods and services are, therefore, the people who are really represented by the politicians in our Parliaments (there are no poor sufferers in Westminster or the Senate, etc, in spite of the fact, for example, that the House of Commons was named so because it was introduced as a means for the 'common' people, those without 'unlimited access', to be represented in Westminster). As with any system that operates within the bounds of capitalism, it is self serving and cannot be seen to be charitable to those who oil its wheels, the labour/work force, because that would detract from the competitive nature of a free market economy. The only guarantees we get when one or other of the two parties get elected into office is that the wealthy will remain wealthy, the rest of us will pay taxes, and that wars will be fought.

Obama promises to bring 'change' to America and, therefore, the World. I am sure that, during his Administrations term of office, he will make changes and I am sure that some of those changes will be positive. However, the 'change' that the people of the world really need is a long way off and will be very difficult to implement. The difficulties arise when one comes to the realisation that the wealthiest people will have to make sacrifices and relinquish some of their free and 'unlimited access' to the goods and services that are being provided by society. The Babylonian system is run by the same people, so, as it stands, these sacrifices will have to be made voluntarily. If an elected leader seriously began to threaten the elites grip on the wealth and power, they would quickly be usurped and replaced with someone who is intent on maintaining the Status-Quo of a 'trickle down' economic system. At the moment, the halls of power the world over are occupied solely by members of that elite. Even the few who hail from humble beginnings and make it through the myriad glass ceilings to elected office are soon catapulted into the 'unlimited access' bracket and thus bribed into representing the elite and preserving the status-quo. The same bribery is used to silence those people who are in the public eye and, therefore, capable of influencing large numbers of people. Because of the power of the media, it is imperative that actors, musicians, authors, newsreaders, journalists etc etc enjoy 'unlimited access' or are at least censored by a member of that elite, ie a newspaper Editor. Successful musicians are a particular danger to the establishment, as we of all people should know only too well. They are rapidly projected into the Elite of the Elite, commanding huge sums of money for public performances that last but an hour or so. Such high paid celebrities throw very little weight when criticising a system which they obviously benefit from so greatly. If they do make noises, like Bono, for example, however noble the intent, it just doesn't have the weight that it would have if they hadn't become so wealthy and elitist in the eyes of the masses. Very few musicians have been capable of shrugging off the Babylonian chains of success. Bob Marley was one of those musicians. His lyrics transcended class, wealth, race... the whole deal. As a result, the system perceived him as a serious threat... the rest is history. Bob Marley stood for the people and wouldn't move! He kept it real.

Barack Obama is a highly intelligent man and is, no doubt, more than aware of the above. I have taken the time to listen to his speeches and have read as much about him and his ideas as I can. He knows the score. He knows a lot more than I do about the Babylon system. I also believe that he is more than capable of rising above his elite status and actually wants to see an end to the appalling inequalities and sufferizations that afflict mankind in todays world. It goes without saying, therefore, that he is also aware of the unequal balance of power and how deeply entrenched this Babylonian system is. He knows damn well that there will be armed conflict on an enormous scale if the resident power base is too gravely threatened in a short time frame. The elite have amassed a Biblical scale arsenal of Weapons Of Mass Destruction and will use them with impunity if they perceive a very real threat to their self-seeking system, that's why they made them in the first place. Obama knows that he must tread carefully and also knows that he can only be the beginning if we are to eventually enjoy living amongst each other equally and peacefully without having the bombs go off first. If he can start us off along the peaceful road to a better world for our children, he will have won my admiration hands down, because we don't even know where that road begins at the moment. His task, if he manages to keep hold of his ideals (I dare not say intent), is indeed one of monumental proportions. At the moment, the majority of economists and politicians simply do not have any other ideas and honestly believe this is the fairest system we can possibly have.

The reason that there is, at last, a glimmer of hope on its way to the White House is simply because enough people the world over wanted Obama elected. The American people got up and voted for hope, the world influenced them. The internet became a vehicle for the truth during the Presidential campaign. At long last the lies being spread around by the Old School power mongers were exposed on the internet and the journalists thus had to start telling the truth. The GOP reaction was there for all to see. The elite cannot operate fully within the bounds of the truth. The internet really began to flex its muscles and it will always speak for and represent the common people because, as it stands, it belongs to us. Already, however, the internet is under threat. The big service providers in the USA want to create a two tiered internet so that people will have to pay more to surf less commercial sites, like this one. It will destroy the internet as we know it. Sites like this will disappear. It will no longer belong to us (Google 'net neutrality' to get a better picture). We have to stop them. If enough of us want the same thing and voice it, we will get it. That's how it works. Really, the power rests with us. Obama being elected President clearly proves that. What worries me is all of the expectation. We have to be patient and wait for change. It will come if we are patient.

Peace and love
Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: Ras Shawn Naphtali on November 11, 2008, 01:26:31 PM
Greetings UKBlaza,

Powerful post my Idrin.  Give thanks for the teachment! 

Bless up, RASpect.


I would only differ on your very last point.  I don't believe we should be patient and wait for change.  I believe each of us needs to get off our backsides and affect change in any ways we can.  Absolutely there is far too much expectation on Obama, and he will only succeed in to goals if we all have our own goals that we are also working towards.  If we sit and wait for him then that raises the expectations on the brother even more.

If there is anything Obama Day has taught, it is that anybody is possible of making change, and we must take that opportunity to see the world around us, to look at the community outside InI gates, and think, how can I change something here for the better?  Waiting for change was the mantra the Christians used on us to keep us passive.  An Iducated people don't wait for change, they influence change.

Each one of us have a role to play in life and a positive contribution to make for the betterment of the people.  That is the Works. That is not waiting for change to happen.

Anyway, big up RASpect for the rest of your post.  I just had to say a few words on the final sentance.  Each One Teach One and thanks for your teachment.  Iron Sharpens Iron.

Blessed Love,

Ras Shawn




Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: UKBlaza on November 11, 2008, 01:52:08 PM
No problem Rasta. I stand corrected. I could have said it better but you just said it for me. We still need to be patient while striving for the changes we need because it will keep the expectation in check, was what I was getting at, I think!

Give thanks for taking time to read that post yeah, I know it was a bit of a long one. I just get a burning desire to say what I feel when it comes to all the politics and that, so I really appreciate your words. Honest appraisal is good teaching.

JahGuide
Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: Ras Shawn Naphtali on November 11, 2008, 03:13:48 PM
JAH Guidance and Itection also Idrin.

Your co-worker.

Ras Shawn
Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: prophet777 on December 12, 2008, 01:37:54 PM
Well I (yes I personally) do not deal with or step in no politricks. It is like Marley said - politricks = devilism so we nah dip into that.

OK so he is the first black president and so what ? Does that make anything better ? Will it change the situation of many black people in Amerikkka or in Africa or the rest of the world ? Will it bring anything positive in this world ? Will that be a solution to rascism in Amerikkka ? Will he solve our Global problems ? Many more question I could ask.....
 
But, since we have no answers to those questions yet, I guess we will just have to wait and see what Obama brings - right ?

Just remember, Obama is not "Superhuman" (or something like that) so do not expect too much from him. Like I said, we will just have to wait and see what happens...Maybe he will do some good, maybe not - time will tell.

P7
Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: toshIte on January 01, 2009, 04:23:30 PM
  "The white hegemony, of which Obama is a part, is afraid of losing control and is using any means possible to maintain their position at the top of the pyramid. "

http://www.counterpunch.org/secor12262008.html
Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: Tara on April 25, 2009, 02:30:06 AM
Please check out Africom:The Obama Agenda-Covered by Alex Jones on YouTube (sorry don't know how to put the link in :-[)
Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: Ash-Tree on May 26, 2009, 11:27:56 AM
Barack Obama is a cousin to Dick cheney, a bloodline from france leading to around 10 of the US presdients,
so yeh, the supposed opposition is the same family  >:D.
we are all individual Presidents/kings and we must rein over those close to us,


Ash-T

Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: paco on May 27, 2009, 04:02:47 AM

   so far i'm very dissapointed in Obama. Alex jones is a conservative and a born again christian, not saying that means anything juss wondering if people r aware. anyways here another view not heard much, imo.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCwBVQW3BCA
Title: Re: Obama Now President
Post by: JAHwalkwidme on June 08, 2009, 06:54:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALXhG1o620g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFA-3DzY7bo&feature=related