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Title: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: Young Rasta on January 30, 2009, 02:29:43 AM
I saw a post earlier about "Fanatical Christians" telling them to GO HOME.  Or get off.  I thought Rastafari was Christian.  Is it not? I believe in Jesus Christ as my savior and I believe that he saved me from all of my sins.  I believe that he died on the cross to grant me salvation.  Is that not accepted in Rasta? Because I am Rastafarian, but I'm still Christian.  :-\
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: moses on January 30, 2009, 07:44:28 AM
Greetings!

Jus spent sometime to learn what has been discussed around here for a while. Set a time aside and investigate. Go thru separate threads and topics and reflect.

Say like, 1 month of probation. Then begin to ask. This will be the nice of you and kind.

Bless Up
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: I ELIJAH I on January 30, 2009, 08:22:24 AM
Listen I, There has been a complete infiltration of Rastafari worldwide. You will hear all manner of contradicting hype. Be stong in your faith, and feel blest to know that you stand alone admist so many that would distort and take it from you. Or course Rastafari is Christian but their are many who have confused IandI with an anti christian black liberation movement from Jamaica built on authroity complexes and reverse racism. You will also find much anti semitism and unproductive conspiratorial blather. Since it gives those persecuted someone even more vunerable than themselves to oppress and is used as a way to avoid accountablity.("its all controlled anyway so why try" attitude) Even from the first response you can see how vunerable this attitude is when it seeks to immediatly classify "you and your type" with accompaning assumptions and negative projections.
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: Human on January 30, 2009, 01:35:33 PM
Do you follow the beliefs of your father and mother? are they Rastafarian as well, if not why dont you believe what they believe?

The point im making is that there are many Rastas who venerate his majesty or worship his majesty for things other than his own beliefs, some worship and follow him because of his character, some because of his great personality as a human being, others because he represents everything to them as a human can be and of course others follow and venerate him because they see him as God or connect him to Jesus. There's no right or wrong way in any of those ways bredrin no matter what or who says so, and yes here on this forum there will be some who right away will claim what i said is incorrect, be cautious of those types because they are controlled by dogma as they see and read it but that is subject to personal interpretation. Feel how you wish to feel rastafari and so be it bredrin, dont let how others feel it affect you.

The post you read remember said "FANATICAL christians" those that constantly barrage others with rhetoric and post bible quote after bible quote to prove THEIR point, this can be annoying to say the least and after awhile the person who started this forum had enough and posted it as a sticky for others to read thats all.
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: natty threads on January 30, 2009, 05:34:48 PM
I am definitely a Christian. moderate in Rasta though it was Rastas who led me to Christ, do quote scripture occassionally, and yet seem to get along well enough here (when I show- it's been very full weeks this winter).

It seems there is room in Rasta for a variety of theologies.

If, as a Christian, you can still love and reason with brethren who disagree with you, then I should think you can be Rasta.

My understanding is that it is  a lack of tolerance that excludes one from this path more than anything else.

There certainly is an interesting mix here.

As long as you realize that the underlying universal theme is not an agreement on theology and that the views do not agree in many cases, yet somehow most identify as Ras', you should be able to grow in overstanding.

In any case, one need not be Rasta to benefit from Rasta.
I don't think I am and I certainly do.

Bless up.
Posted on: January 30, 2009, 09:28:40 AM
Do you follow the beliefs of your father and mother? are they Rastafarian as well, if not why dont you believe what they believe?


Would you take this somewhere for me, Human?

This is something I need to explore myself, and it seems you might be able to help.

You go on with "The point I am making...", which I follow, but maybe you could expound a bit on why we aren't like our parents in fundamental beliefs and how to think about this?

It seems I'm at loggerheads with mine, and I'd really like to understand. (I am 44, btw, and was followed to Alaska by my mom several years ago and am ready to leave the place I love to get away from her again- it is very very very very sad.)
Your comment piqued a part of my spirit.
Can you help?

(Sorry, Young. Not trying to hijack, but this should help with your question too).

Bless.
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: Human on January 30, 2009, 06:18:35 PM
"Would you take this somewhere for me, Human?"

Sure Natty, even though it was in regard to the posters question i will convey my meaning for a better understanding. My mother and father were raised Roman Catholic and i was to when i was very young, they still are but im not, both of them think herb is bad and a danger to people, they believe in certain politics which i dis agree with, there views on certain subjects in life differ quite a bit with mine, but, i love them with all my heart, i respect them immensely, i support them in many ways through love, honor, kindness and positive morals, i look up to them and can honestly say they are the 2 most greatest people in this world to me no matter our differences. The point im making is you can love, honor, respect and venerate, even worship someone if you like without having to believe or follow in every way they do, whether it is there morals, there beliefs in life or there religion. The person or persons can be a nucleous for everything you feel is proper and just in your life, you can venerate them to the utmost based upon those great qualities you see in them without having to believe exactly as they do, so if i can come to this easy conclusion about my mother and father who love me UN-CONDITIONALY then why cant a person feel the same about someone else. If a rasta sees great things in his majesty like kindness, love, strength, compassion, determination etc, etc and these wonderful attributes he adopts for him or her self and lives a life based upon these qualities reflected in Selassie then that is all he needs to be considered a follower of his, a venerater of Rastafari, one who's entire nucleous of being is reflected in H.I.M.. When someone says you must follow his exact beliefs as he saw them in order to be a lover of his majesty and a follower then all i can say is "do you follow everything exactly about those that you love or recieve personal reward from by being like them", i personally think that selassie would respect you following him for those traits more, rather than being based upon his religious beliefs, it would be an honor to him i believe to have great people who love others recognize those traits above simply his religous and personal feelings of what happened thousands of years ago. Yes was he a christian, absolutely, he encouraged christianity, he encouraged others to come to the Orthodox faith, but rastafari as a  personal journey is not about following one for there religion, it is much more than that, it is a recognition in the man of something much deeper and something that touches everyone who sees him regardless of there faith. If Selassie called upon the world to help Ethiopia out at the time it was in need and only asked it from christians based upon his faith then what would have happened? if Selassie who was the head of the Orginization for African Unity called upon only his christian members for African Unity then his purpose would have been in vain, the OAU was largely muslim at the time with many other denominations, it wasnt about that though, it was bigger than that, it was about greater humanity based upon morals, love, compassion for others, giving and recieving etc, etc. There is not one single thing a religous person can do that a non-believer can't do as well, comapssion, love, understanding, a quest for unity, these are not qualities simply born from faith or religion but are the great INNATE qualities we all have as humans, whether we know it or not it is born within the fabric of Man and Woman, history has proven this. This is why Rastafari is special, this is what draws people to this man, not simply his religous views.

Those that say "you can't be rasta if your not a christian" or "if you dont believe in Jesus your not rasta" simply dont have a grasp yet of what his Majesty was all about, you disrespect him by saying such things and will never see the bigger picture although you can jump up and down claiming to know better. Selassie preached about human qualities in all of us which go far beyond words written in different books all claiming to know the truth. He stepped up on the world stage and spoke about them, this is enough for ones to want to venerate him and follow his examples, this is my opinion.
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: NyaInIJahLove on February 01, 2009, 11:46:36 AM
Blessed Love
nice post my Human Bred
Thats the eloquence I n I needed about now
I feel no animosity toward non-Christ (Yesus Christ) following Rastafari
only don't like it when they rubbish I n I faith in the name of RastafarI
thats not right, in I book
RastafarI is one space I n I should be able to share I faith without being rubbished for loving "the son"
thats I view on the subject for now
One Love n RASpect
Nyah I
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: surfmon_I on February 01, 2009, 12:31:44 PM
  Blessings Sistren and Bredren,
  It has been so nice to read such Upfull, and Insightful Posts.  It seems at Ivry point we reach in our lives can be a new vista view .
  Young Rasta referred to the "Fanatical Christians" thread, and the problem does not rest with the Christian part, it has to do with the FANATICAL part.  There should be no problem when resonable views come to light, problems begin when only one way is accepted.  The problem with only one way is that it can never accomodate differing levels of realization, or degrees.
  If we look to an accepted model of what Christ has come to represent, we can see this light is withIn the grasp of all people.  Yet if we look to Christ, as Rastas look to His Majesty, the principal relationship is not with the Man, although that is what we Physically relate to, it is to a deeper relationship with JAH.  This happens on a very large scale, as the world has many Faiths.
  What we have each accepted to be truth should bring out a Universal Love, but this too would be polarized or Fanatical, of us.  If Young Rasta believes;

I believe in Jesus Christ as my savior and I believe that he saved me from all of my sins.  I believe that he died on the cross to grant me salvation.  Is that not accepted in Rasta? Because I am Rastafarian, but I'm still Christian.

  Then he has accepted certian avenues in the persuit or relationship with JAH and this is a personal thing.  If in this relationship we are secure and open, we are able to listen and see the many differing Beautiful relationship stories and experiences that have unfolded throughout the ages. 

   The half that has never been told;  represents the other side of the story.  If in our free minds we are gifted the peace of vision of the Unification then we are looking at the whole picture, both sides that mek a ONE.

  Peace be with you
         ~S~
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: I ELIJAH I on February 02, 2009, 12:44:11 PM
The issue of tolerance is not one that Rastafari need to counsel among ourselves. It is well overstood that I and I would never hold any faith against an I. The issue with a one calling Himself Rastafari that in truth is not, is not one of faith, but one of a slander, misrepresentation, distortion, and ignorance leading to death. Suffice to say that I man will never recognize a "non-christ following Rastafari" as such, and will Iternaly and vocally stand in opposition to any such claim.
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: Human on February 02, 2009, 08:03:51 PM
Suffice to say, no one cares whether "you" recognize or not, thats the point, but, thanks for your always intolerant view.
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: I ELIJAH I on February 02, 2009, 10:21:41 PM
Unsought assertions as to the level of "care" with which my opinion is regarded speak immediately to the prominence of such a recognition irrespective of that declared and for this we also thank you.
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: Human on February 02, 2009, 11:18:25 PM
Ok
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: I ELIJAH I on February 03, 2009, 08:38:57 AM
Yes, Clearly the fascist urge to speak for all and make personal attacks are functions of the same force operating in the Rastafari paradigm to malign those faithful to Yeshua. The "stumbling block" that JAH created is the willingness to stand and speak out against this practice. So as a whole in "Rasta" you will not be accepted if you side with truth.
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: surfmon_I on February 03, 2009, 09:49:39 AM
  Now, if we were to hold up a mirror to that post, could it not be reflected right back to the author. 
  It is not true that one cannot speak for all.  If the I sight Rabbi Jesus as Christ and it bring Salvation, If a one look to His Majesty as the same~ are there not others that see something different?. 
  Which truth stand Universal for ALL?, is not Beauty in the Eyes of the beholder and salvation in the acts and thoughts of us each?.  I would very much lke to state something which in I heart I feel strongly on;
   Does it really matter who we think is God?,  If we look to the stories we have been told, and where the world finds it self now, how can anyone possibly think any of us has/had it right of yet?
   Was Jesus Yeshua to the Jews?, how bout King Selassie?, was he even recognized by them?.  Which story are we speaking of when we speak of "Christ"  for sure there is not only one white washed version.
  A stumbling block is to belittle the importance of what we seek to share, and what we share should not be slander amongst eachother. 
  We know what happens when the Lions are in the room,  let us not forget the Lambs which are the other halves of ourselves.
  Elijah,  many times, I do not know if you are speaking to me, but I take it as if you are, and I am the better for it.  I look to the meaning and reflect it right back to I self.  There is no gain in slinging the same language and labeling oneself head rep and casing the stones in the sling.
  Human, It should be apparent by now that to call out Elijah, the call will be answered.  Subtelty hinted scarcasm will be answered with a mindset that is admirable in someways, yet so caustic in others that it stripps the meaning from what we are learning from each other as we reach for our dictionaries.
  The truth is a funny thing;  It is as all other things in nature,  Its purity is too much to be taken absolutely.  It is a dance that brings joy, but we are never really sure what the next step is.  It is a dance on the shore of reason, where the sand is washed clean endlessly as the waves lap over our foot prints.
Posted on: February 03, 2009, 10:24:24 AM
3rd line down;  IS it not true.
sorry.
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: I ELIJAH I on February 03, 2009, 01:30:48 PM
It is counter intuitive for people who's spirituality is built on absolute inclusiveness because there "standing" as individuals if too pitiful to bear, to sight that NOT EVERYONE is Rastafari. So no, When I speak as and of what it means to be Rastafari, I speak of an order of initiation who for those of it, outsiders are easily detected, Is NOT the same as someone who because his inadequate intelligence provides him no other avenue in the protection of his fools pride that to deride people by claiming "no one cares about their opinion" out of sheer malice. Certain claims simply contradict one another, and those of I sworn to the truth will never cease to bring that to light no matter how many guppies the school gathers.
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: RHEDDA J on February 05, 2009, 02:45:36 AM
nobody likes you because u give jews a real bad name and smell

oi vey!
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: I ELIJAH I on February 05, 2009, 09:31:32 AM
Itecting the good name of the jews always has been high on the list of the worlds priorities.
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: surfmon_I on February 05, 2009, 11:00:55 AM
Hatred arises when you see yourself separate from others.
When we understand our basic inter~connectedness, our common Humanity,  Positive feelings arise.

  The Christ figure is one that radiates kindness and compassion.  By this example we are shown that a mind full of good will, courtesy and concern for others is a liberating force.

Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: I ELIJAH I on February 05, 2009, 04:22:41 PM
Rather when the distinctions among humanity are denied due to an inflamed jealousy that attempts to force upon them the respect of an "interconnectedness" which leads to the assimilation of their essence into the mediocrity of its proponents self destructive apathy.
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: natty threads on February 06, 2009, 01:11:19 AM
How does one deal with being attacked for being a Christian?
Especially from one's parents?
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: Oskar on February 06, 2009, 03:54:42 AM
Interconnectedness respect diversity. No distinction denied. Seeing others as mediocre is white supremacy way of seeing themselves superior.

Eternal praises to His Majesty Haile Selassie the first.
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: surfmon_I on February 06, 2009, 11:35:28 AM
Natty,  parents could be a difficult lot with many expectations of their children.  I would ask them if they remember Popeye?~  I Am what I am.
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: I ELIJAH I on February 06, 2009, 01:36:30 PM
Interconnectedness respect diversity. No distinction denied
Not in any sense where seeing the "separations" amongst humanity are a cause of hatred.
Quote
Seeing others as mediocre is white supremacy way of seeing themselves superior.

Unless of course others actually are mediocre, Which is the truths way of honoring itself.
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: Oskar on February 06, 2009, 01:54:44 PM
"separations" amongst humanity are a cause of hatred.
Not if there is respect for diversity.

Unless of course others actually are mediocre
With respect for diversity others are neither better nor worse, only different.
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: I ELIJAH I on February 06, 2009, 02:24:35 PM
As always you disingenuously quote me out of context to try and take credit for the same point I was making. Lucky for you, Ones mediocrity is not a testament to their ultimate "good" or "bad".
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: Oskar on February 06, 2009, 02:41:00 PM
Maybe I didn't overstand what the I was saying. I don't really care who is making the point. Halie Selassie the first.
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: I ELIJAH I on February 06, 2009, 08:51:52 PM
Attempting to obscure "who made the point", a further strategy of those attempting to distort HIM's prophetic significance, is unrelated to the significance of their having made it.
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: natty threads on February 07, 2009, 06:01:50 AM
Not in any sense where seeing the "separations" amongst humanity are a cause of hatred.
Unless of course others actually are mediocre, Which is the truths way of honoring itself.

I used to be an intellectual elitist.

When I finally "wised up" and found YHWH I used to have to tell myself

"Jesus died for stupid people too.."

Now I just stick with "We all fall short in the eyes of God" and "Those of us who are the hardest to love are often the ones who need it the most."

It is no-one's place to determine that another is a mediocre person.

Our just service is to love one another as YHWH has already loved us.
NOW is the opportunity we have for that.

In the end every knee will bow and all the glory is YHWH's anyway.

Bless up.
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: NyaInIJahLove on February 07, 2009, 07:29:14 AM
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nobody likes you because u give jews a real bad name and smell

oi vey!
Rhedda, I can't believe the immaturity of that comment
but seeing as we all have a little boy or girl inside of us, that's sometimes very childish yet always still loveable, I'll give the I the benefit of knowing that I get cranky with Elijah too, and although the way he says things can be infuriatingly "superiority" sounding and sometimes harsh and brutal, he often has a valid point.
 I find the reality of the Rastafari movement to be sometimes VERY anti-christ, and anti-semetic and although pale-skin Jewish people seem to carry a streak of the empire building colonialistic mentality that grates many people who identify with RastafarI up the wrong way, and it is true the Ible is full of "The Voice within prophets" being cranky with the Jews,
Ibelievee,they should be RASpected in as Ones who Bring the "Message of the MessenJahs" and invite us to have personal relationship with the Most High......although until they all "get it"......I doubt we will all "get it" and while they are being hated on for their Jewishness and the "special Relationship" they have with the Most I...I feel they will Itinue to be very defensive, and appear arrogant and harsh...don't be fooled...underneath the Harshness and defensiveness and Arrogance...is a people of incredible depth, spirituality and uprightness of extreme intelligance and civility......seen clearly in His Imperial Majesty...
one can at least RASpect Elijah for His conviction and repeated guarding of the Palace.....albeit somewhat fierceness and Zionistic tendancies.....
and when has the I "smelled" him?
I am not one who "doesn't like Elijah" although he often infuriates me for his condescending disregard and blunt eloquance, I have learned a huge amount of uprightness and reality check from him...yes this little "Hippy chick wannabe Ras (who cannot be a"Ras" due to my gender)" who has a strong powahful Nyah Warrioress inside her, Raspects her brother Elijah as a Bredren who loves the Royal Family as the Embodiment of Ivinity "as above so below" as much as I n I
Yes I stronger together as long as its love of Truth and Justice that binds us
NYah I
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: Oskar on February 07, 2009, 07:44:45 AM
Blessed love. All glory to HIM Haile Selassie the first.
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: I ELIJAH I on February 07, 2009, 10:57:10 PM
How much for the parrot?
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: Oskar on February 08, 2009, 06:15:43 AM
How much for the parrot?

It's not for sale.
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: I ELIJAH I on February 08, 2009, 11:00:08 AM
Must be expensive if it knows the self worth line.
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Post by: Oskar on February 08, 2009, 12:15:55 PM
No, not expensive. Simply not for sale.
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Post by: I ELIJAH I on February 08, 2009, 12:32:06 PM
Does it do "one love"? One Love? One Love?...
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: surfmon_I on February 08, 2009, 01:27:11 PM
HEY~ that was...cheap-cheap.
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: I ELIJAH I on February 08, 2009, 01:32:21 PM
Fools are answered according to their folly.
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: natty threads on February 14, 2009, 04:05:34 AM
Honestly.
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: Knowledge on February 24, 2009, 11:29:15 AM
I personally am not into the Jesus Ting!

Don't get me wrong, if a one is saying that we all should live good, or that there is a greater place outside of this material hell hole, or the one creator is the First Source in the Omniverse and attributing that to the message stated by the character  jesus, then OK, I can live with that.  But when I hear about immaculate conception, about the death on the cross, about him coming back in three days and so on, then I don't accept that nonsense at all!

The slant that men have put on to the livity is one of the things that have lead us into this miserable existence! Men have focused upon the personality of the man rather than the livity and the message.  I personally don't believe that the jesus in the bible existed, although I accept that there could have been an event that happened where they cut Yashua from a tree after he had been hanged! Wasn't it him who said that the jews who were calling themselves jews were bogus and should condemned?

At least historically; Selassie I did inhabit the earth! But again I think the wrong emphasis has been placed upon H. I. M.  He was indeed a significant presence in the 20th Century! However, to say he is the creator of the Earth and the Universe, whilst not being beyond the realms of possibility, is just is not true! Well at least not in the conventional way that they would have us believe the earth was created!

It is highly unlikely that the First Source and Creator would even have the time, much-less the inclination, to be meddling within the affairs of this insignificant planet to the degree that the religious mob would have us believe.   

Knowledge,
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: I ELIJAH I on February 24, 2009, 04:59:24 PM
Thanks for another irrelevant opinion confirming the power of faith.
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: Knowledge on February 25, 2009, 02:12:59 PM
i Elijah i

You are a extremely funny individual, aren't you! Hah hah!

You may deem my opinion to irrelevant, but at the end of the day
I am just expressing a view point on the subject at hand!
Rather than using a lot of irrelevant words to say basically nothing
you should humble yourself!

However, whilst I acknowledge that you have
some albeit limited aptitude (which incidentally for those who don't know,
has been impressed on him by his handles/controllers
).
Don't fall too deep into the fallacy that you can handle me in any real
debate of meaning!  Because you can't, yeah you might feel that you can,
I know (not feel or believe) that you can't!

It would be easiest thing to trawl through the site and address all the nonsense
you espouse but I have better things to do!

So run along my extremely 'little' double-agent friend, Go and find yourself, if you can!

Knowledge.
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: I ELIJAH I on February 25, 2009, 04:27:10 PM
View of the subject? Hardly, an individual of your realization has no opinion on Rastafari just the common tripe your lemming crew has CONvinced itself repasents the King.
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: Knowledge on February 26, 2009, 09:11:54 AM
Yeah Right!!!

Which crew would that be then?
I don't claim to represent anyone, but just out interest, who is it that
you believe you represent, and how so!

Because not wanting to sound funny, but all you seem to generate is
ignorance and hatred. Your point of view is always subjective and it would appear
wholly based upon a disturbing degree of (racial) intolerance, and the promotion
of division and ignorance.

Knowledge,
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: I ELIJAH I on February 26, 2009, 01:48:17 PM
Its quite clear without any explicit declaration that your on the front lines of the lemming crew like I said. I happen to represent myself as a matter of natural and supernatural fact by maintaining an existentially sovereign identification. You'd be wise not to take for granted the amount of "racial" tolerance I afford however limited you find it.
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: Knowledge on February 26, 2009, 03:13:41 PM
You poor deluded idiot,

To think, that I actually thought that they would have programmed you with more intelligence than this.
Obviously not! As you are acutely aware, that's the thing about intelligence, no matter how it tries, it cannot suppress the truth, as you well know! But what can you do? As it' appears your primary purpose is to undertake your nefarious work, isn't it? Like they say you cant the change nature of the beast from what is its primary function!

Whereas I have come to have meaningful and constructive reasoning about life and the issues that matter.
That is the antithesis of what you are here to do. You are here to the exact opposite, primarily to confuse and stifle the truth
as that is your purpose. I suppose it's the equation trying balance itself! ;)

But as they say; A fool hateth the words of the wise. Indeed when a wise person reasons with a fool
then that person of wisdom doesn't end up any wiser! Indeed if they tarry long enough it becomes a stain on their character.

So instead of being the idiotic fly that followed the open mouth of the corpse into grave. Hence; I am going to leave you to
do your work/task. I think that anyone with sense will see you for what you actually are, and not what you (with your talmudic moniker) professes to be or represent.  Although I am surprised that given the length of time that you have been on this site that it would not have been patently obvious.
 
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: I ELIJAH I on February 26, 2009, 03:52:02 PM
I appreciate the respect you show in deciding to forgo any further attempt at hindering the object of my participation at this particular venue. Your surprise however may be premature as I have not seen any indication that my character, perhaps its fool tarrying stains and all, is to anyone here not patently obvious.
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Post by: paco on February 26, 2009, 05:51:54 PM
     

         


         i see it
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Post by: surfmon_I on February 27, 2009, 11:37:37 AM
       



      i read it
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Post by: I ELIJAH I on February 27, 2009, 12:25:31 PM
Its indeed no less of a secret than that the worlds cowardice in defense of the truth, while providing its proponents only further distinction, manifests the resentment it gives rise to within them though revealing the then undeniably hideous nature of their beings.
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: Knowledge on March 02, 2009, 11:12:44 AM
I am glad that other's are  seeing the Jesuit, i elijah i aka a who dem; for what he/she really represents.

De fool and him clique really mussa a tek we fe joke, about who dem!!
Yes that really is the question a who dem?

A who dem really is! Don't you tink it strange that a obnoxious cretinous fool like dis bwoy yah
can really be posting the offensive diatribe this double agent of the beast regularly submits
for any other reason than negativity and confusion. In other words to stifle reasoning!

In a world where people are looking for the truth, I would think that there is a positive way to raise
issues, other than a negative chant based upon the what the hateful and sinful zionist/babylonians are dealing with!
But a true dem only know what dem illuminati handlers/minders ah tell dem fe seh!

At least it look like de Trenton/Bag a wire puss; have to change him name, ha hah

Keep running bwoy!

Hmm, It look dis fool yah,ah run so fast, him all a tek  dawg shit mek new road! ;D
Title: Re: Hold on... I have a BIG question..
Post by: I ELIJAH I on March 02, 2009, 11:53:49 AM
"i elijah i aka a who dem;"

Ones clearly familiar, Thanks for the look out though.