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Title: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: surfmon_I on March 25, 2009, 11:44:06 AM
Greetings of Love and raspect Ras Flako,
It has been so UP~Full to read the I's words. I often think that these writings would benefit the other Bredren and Sistren at Rasta Nicks site, seeing as there are not many elders on that site, and not much in the way of Guidance from the Bredren Rasta Nick in terms of mediation due to life being busy for him. I was wondering how the I would feel bout having some of these topics (not all, but some) forwarded to the thirsty idren at Nicks.
Test the Irits, Hot Fiyah! ~ are two that Iman would love to forward ( only the main post, not the replies of course.) Many times, as in the past years, I have reads the words, and felt that what I would add might take aways from the powerful message the I puts to us. So it stand, and is like a tree reaching out to the many. In these times, we must refresh those that are in need, and I feel the writings could be of benefit to the ones on that site as well. I would very much like to insure that what I propose is of a Loveful Intention and only to benefit others.
Please speak to I of how this feel, If it is so that the I would rather I did not do so, It is Overstandable, and I raspect the word.
Nuff Love, I often feel very GreatFULL for the time we spent in each others company, and think of you often.
JAH Bless and keep smiling upon the Faithful and shine the light on them that need to see.
~S~
 
Qadamawi Haile Selassie love and blessings
Yes Surfah
The message must be shared -so go ahead and forward the ones identified at Nicks -also forward a link for Nick so that I man can follow the thread
It is a good vibe
More ones must be called to duty and stop sitting on the fence
Jah Rastafari is for Iver
Guidance and blessings
RasFlako


 HOT FIYA!   Posted by ras flako on 10 March 2009 

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One Perfect love and blessings in the house of Jah Rastafari and Empress Menen.
InI have seen many Rastafari fighting for power, but know not the hour, they all seem to be fighting for a parcel of land in a Babylon, but that will not solve InI problem. It never did in the past and will not change now.
Begging political favors will not solve InI problems, remember never let a politician grant you a favor, they will always use you forever –seen Fiya.
There seems to be a game going on of who will out smart who, or is it one of who will bell the cat? -I man trying to figure it out. There are many hidden agendas, once stored in the head space, now seems to be exposed in the open –Is this an ambush, a coup, or an open attack on your own people?
The all mansions organization will eventually lose its stripe of Integrity if this trend is allowed continue. They seem to be running many red lights on the trod, very soon their aspiration for Rastafari leadership will blow up in smoke, or maybe they don’t care what the Global Rastafari think about them, they all seem to be so comfortable splashing their internal disputes across the four corners of the earth -Hot Fiya!
Check it, the concept of Rastafari is not me and you, or me against you .It is a concept of integrity and righteous commitment to progressive and upfull living and Ivine governance.
Some individuals will foolishly allow position in administration to get into their heads –Many are not governed by a code of conduct, and therefore it becomes a free for all mentality or the man with the most clout rule. These are the same ones who will eventually stand on the floor at the detriment of the organization.
Many have not adopted any example of leadership set out by Qidamawi Haile Selassie So how they expect to lead InI?
The wise will always avoid the path of sudden destruction and be among the few I-lected to carry on the duty of African Liberation.
The internet should not be used to splash Rastafari internal disputes; it is time to wave the red flag of disgust. It seems like some have no shame and delight in the new found fun –Well it is not funny.
These so called leaders, self appointed to say the least, really have a big ego. However, they will soon realize the damage they have caused –or maybe they won’t. They seem not to recognize the importance of public relations or International relations within their organization. Who will do the damage control now that the bird has flown the coop?
It will be difficult for any Rastafari organization to get membership, to be accepted or to represent Rastafari Diaspora interests, if these distasteful and unpleasant acts keeps surfing the net.
Rastafari fight must not or should not be for an outpost on an Island. The fight must be for the mass movement for African Liberation. The fight for Repatriation and Reparation is not on the horizon and internal strife will not bring it any closer –
Just can’t see the logic for the behavior of those where entrusted with the governance of Rastafari affairs.
The camp is being invaded, and many now find themselves fighting over scraps of food that cannot satisfy the hunger of the many that were deprived of food, and shelter for over five hundred years and counting.
Full time to be about my father’s business and not be blinded by ones and ones reflection in a flash of power struggle –More Fiya!
WHO THE CAP FIT!!!!
Guidance and Itection
Ras Flako Tafari Share this!



Posted on: March 24, 2009, 06:06:33 PM
   TEST THE IRITS,

Glory to word, glory to sound, glory to this blessed Iwa .Behold how good and pleasant it is for brethren and sistren to dwell together in Inity. It is like the precious ointment upon the head, that ran down the beard, even I man beard, that went down to the skirts of I man garments.

It is like the dew that descend upon I man ,upon the Mountain of Mt Zion ,for it is there Qadamawi Haile Selassie, Jah RasTafari commanded his blessings ,even life for Iver more.

In this Iwa of Rastafari consciousness ,the Iritical message of the Nyah Binghi Order rises with the Ingelic chant .I must Yod home to that land where I am from ,for there is love in that land ,joy and happiness in that land ,I must Yod home to that land where I am from
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For some the Yod could be spiritual, mental or by migration. InI is fully aware that there will be many will continue to debate the point of Repatriation with Reparation and will linger with a glimmer of hope There should be mass mobilize of Rastafari through political channels to seal this worthwhile goal .

Nothing should be left to chance or the method of trial and error, the correct strategy must be in place to resolve this matter. The paper trail on this matter is very long, indeed it would seems like a game of endurance –Is It., how many more generation of InI must mandated to fight for this cause?

Only a mobilization of Rastafari on all fronts along with strong Diaspora support will be able to resolve the burning issue of Repatriation with Reparations .No splinter group will able to effect the desired change in the present scenario.

The Governments of the day definite will not bow to any minority pressure, they are fully aware that their economy and Industries will crash like Humpty Dumpty, if they grant InI demand.
Therefore InI must set alternative plans to move within set time, it is wise to get out of Babylon while you are strong –seen

Within levels of Iritical reasoning, there are many sounds surfacing, and many questions posed to InI, some will get no answer and end up frustrated. Let be known that a true Rastafari is not offended by word sound .Rastafari are the defenders of truths and rights without apology, there are many who speak with twisted tongues to test InI faith ,just be prepared ,seen Fiya .

For Rastafari the” Word” is a two edged sword, both love and Fiya, always remember that Fiya can’t bun Fiya, so just cool the flames and sight up positive reasoning and upful livity.

The moral capacity of Rastafari lies within the word sound ,and many will use metaphors to express themselves ,Yes I ,this the age of reality .The biblical Peter Paul and John are not around nor Matthew or Mark .

InI must learn from InI own ancestors, how else will able to carry out the mandate given by them, if InI vision becomes clouded with concepts and allegories unrelated to InI ancestry?

In this Iwa and every Iwa Rastafari prefer to relate to ones and ones who can hold the order ,especially the ones who are grounded in the faith ,this should not be taken as an offence ,too much waggonist around ,too much imitators, just too many ones trying so hard to be accepted as Rastafari

Rastafari are the ones who know themselves and are within themselves, they are stronger in the livity through years of spiritual I -durance ,years of reversing the mental slavery ,police brutality , landless, yearning to Yod home .years carrying “Dread Locks “as a personal testimony of faith .

InI recognize the dangers that faces ones and ones who are called Rastafari, but with wise mind ,through the mercies of Qadamawi Haile Selassie and Empress Menen InI stand confident of the victory of good over evil and truly know that even in this twenty century ,David will slew Goliath.
Jah Rastafari!
Yanks and Ises
RasFlako Tafari

Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: Human on March 25, 2009, 11:57:16 AM
Can you explain further what this is about and what it is that is being asked.
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: surfmon_I on March 25, 2009, 12:38:47 PM
  It is about the focus of Rastafari FORWARD dear Bredren.  Long time now we have going round and round as the elders of this site have left for more fruitFULL pastures.  I, started to branch out and recently attended a Rastafari Rising meeting in Amherst, Massachusetts.  To meet and reason Face to Face.

  The inter~net is a wonderful tool, but it is only as good as we use it, and for long time the focus has been on squabbling, pride and intellectuall~ism.  Nature is simple, and complex at the same time, but we do not have to force our living.  How do we better ourselves?, is it the same for each of us?, No~ it is not.  What is require is a respect for the different frequencies we each flex at although we are one people.

  Love is the ultimate defender of the truth.  This, my friend IS an Absolute.  Some give their lives for it and pass knowing they have given it their all.  In a culture where we are surrounded by Negativity feed to the unconscious, Rastafari Blaze the path of righteousness.

  It is pointless to go round and round if we do not do so with a willingness to share and grow.  This is what this is about.  Moving forward.  Loving eachother and having Faith as we reach out to lift ourselves from from this world wide slumber.

  I am a man with a big heart, and try not to force I views, but seek the heart of others.  there are many langusges we speak, all this is in an effort to know what is being said, with all of its delicate flavors.  I would ask that we  respect  the words of RasFlako, and look at them with the Love they are intended.  None of this is meant to inflame, rather to show that the elders that ARE out there, on the threshold of being Icents, are a body of power that are trying to organize and centralize.

  It is indeed rare that ones share their lives.  I am not so sure that it is the way of this medium to do so, as it may bring out the feeding of the wicked, but I have shared what I can, and not seen much out there insomuch as ones WORKING for UNITY.  I am hoping that some combination of words with the Love that is behind them, and JAH willing, may move ones to become motivated to open up.  Realize that we are in this together, and begin to Work and Inspire others.  That is why I have posted RasFlakos words.  Having sat across the table and sharing food and tea, while reasoning with he and Ras Ravin I, I man am Humbled and want to do only what I can.  Aspire to be a good man.  A good Father.  A Good Human, for I know that JAH is the heart of InI Irit.

BlessedLove and Ises.
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: I ELIJAH I on March 25, 2009, 01:26:41 PM
There is no forward for someone that doesn't even know where they stand.
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: Human on March 25, 2009, 01:50:49 PM
Like water bredrin Surf, always moving forward never stagnant, around, in and through we flow. Thanks for the post.

Elijah sorry to hear that, didnt know you felt that way about yourself, one day bredrin.
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: I ELIJAH I on March 25, 2009, 01:57:11 PM
I mentioned no individuals.
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: surfmon_I on March 25, 2009, 08:03:46 PM
  I am happy that Human asked the first question, having just seen testerday evening before going to yoga that Elijah was posting on this topic.  At practice, I thought about what elijah would say, most probably somethin negative.  So, when I returned last night, I saw the topic was looked at 20 times, but no post. 

  I would ask that this not run away with meaningless posts, though we are too late for that.  Although the general point is true, that ones must know where they stand to forward, InI KNOW where it is ones should stand...on the side of GOOD.  Good for the planet, good for the community, good for our bredren and sistren.  What side do you stand on?.

  I once aske Elijah if he had children, his reply was no, I am a priest.  What type of priest are you ?, to continually cast road blocks down where ever you go?.  So rarely a helpful or kind word from the Bredren, still, without supervision or moderators, this is what a ratsa site is reduced to.  What amounts to terrorism from one who claims to stand alone.  Well, this mentality has gotten the world to where it stands now...
  I really would like to know what type of works DO YOU do Elijah?.  Always on the com, and rarely helpful.  Start a thread your self that has a helpful theme, this is what I have done, bringing the wise wordsund of a Nyabingi Priest to those that have nothing but you to listen to.  We are what we mek it, so lets mek it right. No need to fuss and fight, just do right. 

  Start a thread called "Addressing Negativity", and be the star of it.  lets see what the I can do, instead of chanting down.  it is time for action, lets get to shall we?.
 
 
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: I ELIJAH I on March 25, 2009, 09:53:53 PM
What I said is only as positive or negative as one makes it. As with anything that is true. It may be negative for the masses that have come under the medium of the internet to nominally dominate what they think is "Rastafari" to rally their poverty consciousness into a faux revolution, while it may be positive for the Chosen Saints of the Most High G-d of Israel, Rastafari, in that it expresses the nature of the schism of those who would pretend to their identity.
Posted on: March 25, 2009, 09:14:19 PM
But let me spell it out for you since JAH knows you couldn't possibly be bothered to think about it yourselves. If ones want to forward some so called "Rastafari movement" but can't be bothered to comprehend the fullness of the sound and the operation of the order they are fully deserving of the chaotic joke that is their "livity". Not just that, but if ones want to persist in representing the opposite of Who Rastafari are by trying to front some delusional, anti-Semitic, reverse racist, scapegoating, atheistic propaganda they can expect their efforts to be actively opposed.
Posted on: March 25, 2009, 09:57:04 PM
So watch them run surfmon, watch them run and fall. Like the Sista say. the full rejection of anything only testifies to its truth. But only fe they with EYES.
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: natty threads on March 25, 2009, 11:36:51 PM
There is no forward for someone that doesn't even know where they stand.

How is this not true?

How is Elijah the one preventing response when those who deny the veracity of foundational scripture- ie the BIBLE- are the most outspoken?

Human's was the first post I read as snide.

Elijah pulls his Ras-Zen thing then Human comes in and denies veracity of Truth, Elijah pulls the Ras card, and it degenerates from there.

What a mess.

What a verification of the OP.

Bless UP, fools.

Bless UP.

(Thank-you YHWH for Yahushua that I may be forgiven for calling a brother a fool-)


Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: Human on March 26, 2009, 10:30:58 AM
"(Thank-you YHWH for Yahushua that I may be forgiven for calling a brother a fool-)"

Im happy that im still your brother Natty, I feel no way, only love for you still.
Posted on: March 26, 2009, 01:46:44 AM
I thought Elijah was talking about himself, my apologies Elijah, lets keep the posts on track shall we, I for one will.
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: NyaInIJahLove on March 26, 2009, 11:36:10 AM
Anyone who thinks they are wise are evidently fools compared to the Universal wisdom from whence we all spring
I n I no different
this has become a sad place
I wish everyone could come to my place to celebrate culture and coming together for our rights and sacred herb this May
We have a protestival often 15000 strong, we are expecting 20000 people this year
in my village
it is a powerful thing
I am lucky to live here, where beautiful treed mountains surround a village of diverse community who all love nature, community, culture, freedom, love (although we all too human and immature)
it is a place where Rastas live next to rednecks, pagans, bikeys, ganstas, aboriginal people, healers,sufferers, people whateva lables (I don't really believe in them, we are all individuals and cant hide behind our personas really)....a place that has signs like "refugees welcome" and has the Aboriginal laws plainly visible for all to read...a place that gets 1.1 million tourists annually, 2nd next to the Sidney Opera house, but only contains 400 residents and thousands living in the hills around......I live in paradise so its hard to get too upset about some words on a screen..... although I bet none of you have even been to I site and listened to I n I families music, even tho I have been posting here for over two years now......how about it?
I feel that you are all my family and hold a place for all here.....in love and fondness....sure we may sometimes sound like rebel sistahs n brothers, cynics who love arguing (brothers and sistahs do that sometimes) religious zealots, scholars, petulant children, and crazy mystics...but to me, we are still family of a sort, maybe soul family but you're mine and I love you all..and all families fight sometimes.....still, family is sacred to me.....I may be a fool and I gladly admit I am...I may be a hypocrite and I will not deny I can be and fall short everyday and agonize over that reality......but I will neva give up my dreams, my loves, my family, my rights...until Jah come to take I home.......
And I thanks the Highest for the upportunity to share...even if it is just one big ego trip......I've been to the light and had I ego dissolve like the illusion of grandeur it is and don't mind......so its still RastafarI and reggae music for I (although I sing in a world music choir now).....and dreams of easing the worlds pain....coz compassion and humility are still where its at far I
RastafarI love n strength farIva

Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: Human on March 26, 2009, 11:46:05 AM
Always a pleasure to hear from you NYA , and no i dont think your a fool or a hypocrite, your human and what seems like a nice one to me, hope the kids are doing well, thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: I ELIJAH I on March 26, 2009, 11:50:25 AM
To keep on track one needs to be on it in the first place. The most I can do to move anyone forward is to show them that they don't even know where they are, and if they want to go somewhere they need to figure that out first. If you say "rastafari" then you take on on the Istablished things that that word sound comes with. So far all anyone wants to do is RUN AWAY from this truth because its binding, its not "whatever you think or want or say" its an ABSOLUTE ORDER. One that doesn't include harping about a New World Order or Zionists or Black Supremacy or Khemet or Theosophy, Check the script and face the facts. His Majesties words are clear, So what is this Jamacian Cult HYPE? Rastafari? I think not! People want so badly to be Rastafari that when they find out they aren't and can never be, they deny who we are and throw some Burger King hat pon there head talking bout they Judah now, all the while cheered on by folks who hate faith and the faithfull becasue We don't bow to their god of secular frustration.
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: surfmon_I on March 26, 2009, 12:13:55 PM
  That really is the task, to KEEP ON TRACK.  thing is, these tracks.  I have been saying this for long time now, that it all lead to the same things, regardless of our Human pride.  Ones keep claiming they know , and that is fine until they hold it against another.  What is the point of that?, to BE THE JUDGE? ~~~ WE ARE NOT JUDGES.

  I posted RasFlako's threads for us to see how it is that an Idea/s may be presented HOT FIYA, but it is not WE that will scortch, it is the truth that will be seen at journeys end.  UNdeniably, it is not we that are the judge.  SO, Thanks Nya, for posting WHAT AND HOW the I live.  In harmony, with Nature.  NO judgement.  No apology needed.

  I find it so intimidating the levels of outright hatered that are displayed , instead of the Humble example Iman have given.  We must find a way to extract the goodness from eachother.  I have spoken with each I here posted.  And have had fruitful sessions.  Some may seh that chat is fruitless talk, yet I find the root of a person the other staple too.  I am a man of many languages and the purpose of them is to reach out and touch others.  InI would like to see ones reach out in the compassion that I know rest withIN each.  Fine to be a Warriyah, but also Love the family.

  As much as we venture outward, we ultimately return home.  Sometimes we must be helped, and we become the better for it when we open our hearts and trust in the Flow that is JAH.  ALL around us each, Iveryday.  I agree with Nya, you are I familiga.  we are one.  Nicks is home and where dont claim to be RAS, but aspire to hold a portion of the wisdom there in.  InI Dread up out of raspect and discontentment for the world we live in.  The beauty and the FULLness belong to JAH Rastafari.  It is a symbol of InI Faith and Vitality in this physical formness.

Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: Human on March 26, 2009, 12:53:29 PM
I agree Surf, but, here is what happens on a daily basis around here, this is what is posted:

"its not "whatever you think or want or say" its an ABSOLUTE ORDER"

Which is again nothing more than Elijah THINKING and SAYING what Rastafari is, it's comical to hear one say such a thing and in the very same post do what it is they are shouting about.

RASTAFARI is a man, deal with the MAN and his works, not illusory garbage, not so called Orders, mansions, ideologies, he talked to animals, he made thunder clap, he's lightning, he turned into a cat and never died, etc, etc. When these type of things are said about him you are now entering a hearsay, illusory, Christian fantasy type of thinking which takes away from his works and character and eventually leads to some supposed ABSOLUTE ORDER, Nyahbingi Order, 12 Tribe order, Bobo Shanti order and any number of supposed orders and supposed laws concerning the MAN Hailie Selassie. If you choose to follow any of these "orders" that is your choice, if you choose to believe there are laws concerning Rastafari that is also your choice, it is when you start to tell others that this is what Rastafari is or said that we should do or act like then you are doing nothing more than making that up on your own or repeating what some other "Rasta" has taught you, what you are not doing is going by the MAN himselfs writings or speeches which is all we have to go on in these times to learn about Hailie Selassie, everyone want's to claim this or that AFTER the man has died and left with no way of clarifying what is being said or taught about him, how disrespectful of people. The truth and un-denieable facts about Selassie is simply read and appreciated in his works, his PERSONAL works and writings which is things like this, strong character, compassion for his people, people in general and his love for Ethiopia, true politician, a family man with love for his children, a statesman of the highest caliber, a believer in equality without regard to race or color, a believer in education for all, a modernist for society, a man who did good things along with bad things, he laughed and he cried, he felt understood love and he felt extreme pain in his life, he loved animals, etc, etc, etc. This is RASTAFARI and anything labeled on him outside of human ways is YOUR belief, YOUR way of seeing him, YOUR desire to see him based on your abilty to imagine or believe but NOT what he wrote or spoke in HIS writings....period.

Surf on your suggestion i went to that site "World of Jah" and immediately i saw a post saying that it is preferred that a nyabingi man should only have relations with another of there own ethnic background and not of a different color, and then Immediately I read a wonderful saying by Rastafari HIMSELF which said this: 

"Above all, Ethiopia is dedicated to the principle of the equality of all men, irrespective of differences of race, colour or creed. As we do not practice or permit discrimination within our nation, so we oppose it wherever it is found…. As we extend the hand of universal brotherhood to all, without regard to race or colour, so we condemn any social or political order which distinguishes among God's children on this most specious of grounds."

"..let us take pride in the fact that as free men we attack and abhor racial discrimination on principle, where-ever it is found and in whatever guise."

"I may say that “black” and “white” as a form of speech; as a means of judging mankind, it should be eliminated from human society. Human beings are PRECISELY THE SAME whatever color, race, or creed or national origin they may be."

This is a perfect example of how ones and ones try to dictate what is best for RASTAFARI and it's adherents and at the very same time claim this type of ORDER comes from the MAN himself, it's as if there just making this stuff up as they go along, this is why we must stick to the MAN and HIS writings, not some so called Elder or order or what someone who claims they now on an internet site says, this is my word sound.

Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: I ELIJAH I on March 26, 2009, 01:15:18 PM
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if you choose to believe there are laws concerning Rastafari that is also your choice, it is when you start to tell others that this is what Rastafari is or said that we should do or act like then you are doing nothing more than making that up on your own or repeating what some other "Rasta" has taught you,

Not necessarily, It could be that we know that this is what it means to be Rastafari from experience. People just don't want to be told it because it destroys their illusions. Some people have a relationship with the Emperor that those who don't will never overstand, but we will not be intimidated by their vexation from proclaiming his glory. It is not as if we were invading some congregation not specifically designed for those of our faith. What is truly disrespectful is those not of our faith forcing their agenda's and misconceptions into our place for expression.

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ones and ones try to dictate what is best for RASTAFARI and it's adherents

But at the same time you contradict yourself by speaking of "Rastafari" as some "thing" with "adherents". I and I have always asserted that Rastafari is a Man, the mystery is how he is 144,000 of them and still only one.




Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: Human on March 26, 2009, 01:44:56 PM
"It could be that we know that this is what it means to be Rastafari from experience."

You just proved what I said. The "we" is not the "Man" himself no matter how hard you wish for it to be, the "we" is the community or global followers of which you talk so negatively about.

and here again you prove what I said

" the mystery is how he is 144,000 of them and still only one"



Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: Knowledge on March 26, 2009, 01:48:48 PM
When Natty Threads makes the following remarks:
How is Elijah the one preventing response when those who deny the veracity of foundational scripture- ie the BIBLE- are the most outspoken?
It is directly me that she is referring to. She has the temerity to allude to foundational scripture , a weh she a tek we for? Eeediat's (idiot's) is what!

Human stated a ting which I rate and do not feel any Ras should be fighting:-  "The truth and un-denieable facts about Selassie is simply read and appreciated in his works, his PERSONAL works and writings which is things like this, strong character, compassion for his people, people in general and his love for Ethiopia, true politician, a family man with love for his children, a statesman of the highest caliber, a believer in equality without regard to race or color, a believer in education for all, a modernist for society, a man who did good things along" He also reminds us that HIM said that "Above all, Ethiopia is dedicated to the principle of the equality of all men, irrespective of differences of race, colour or creed. As we do not practice or permit discrimination within our nation, so we oppose it wherever it is found…. As we extend the hand of universal brotherhood to all, without regard to race or colour, so we condemn any social or political order which distinguishes among God's children on this most specious of grounds."  But yet she a rail up against him. Why ???

I don't want to sound a funny way; "but what jars my notion of good taste, is when the daughter of some judge starts sounding off in such a incoherent and subjective manner". One has wonder what it is she is really dealing with? Because it doesn't sound like Rastafari to the discerning amongst us.  Surfmon a try bring a cohesion to how things are going at the moment and yet the resistance which he is met with; stems not from I and I, but from the likes of them - So how does that work...? Surf makes the same point as I did previously; Judge not lest ye be Judged, because we are not Judges, but rather than accept that fact, back they come with their old played out -if's and buts- argument.

As for the next Idiot, I would just ask some of the others to read his posts and see if it makes any real sense, if it does makes sense to others, then please post an explanation in 'sensible speak' as opposed to his delusional garbage, which he thinks is supposed to pass as reasoning.  "A play dem fool dem a play, but dem to overstand dat play time done! From long time". 

Dem don't nothing about the tings that really matter, that's why they  have to seek to spoil up the vibes and sow confusion and seek to distort and pervert reasoning.
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: I ELIJAH I on March 26, 2009, 02:01:34 PM
"It could be that we know that this is what it means to be Rastafari from experience."

You just proved what I said. The "we" is not the "Man" himself no matter how hard you wish for it to be, the "we" is the community or global followers of which you talk so negatively about.


I would rather say that it proves your ignorance and not only incomprehension but incapacity do so of the reality that We are indeed "the man himself". People still dealing with a "following" mentality deserve all the fire they could be graced with. See dem sey ""we are not Judges"" Soon come them a see that indeed We(Rastafari) are the Judge. "Judge not lest you be judged" Only means don't judge unless you have the moral authority. Thing is some people just lack the mental capacity to actually contemplate the scripture and so just deal with the convenience of a "Don't Judge, The Judge is in the sky" fantasy Rasta bun from eva since. Funny that no?
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: Knowledge on March 26, 2009, 02:07:14 PM
But at the same time you contradict yourself by speaking of "Rastafari" as some "thing" with "adherents". I and I have always asserted that Rastafari is a Man, the mystery is how he is 144,000 of them and still only one.


You simpleton. You and Natty threads should traipse back to your sin a gogue or back such similar internet sites where that kind of nonsense is adhered to. You come round here talking nonsense, uttering unadulterated crap.

You know nothing about Rastafari apart from what your neo-extremist masters have told you to write. If you really did a Hail Rastafari you would not be taking his name in vain. Which is what you do, day in and day out. You was a heathen from the start and you remain a heathen now.
They ask why do Heathens rage and imagine vain things? Well the answer to that; is because it's all like we who put them back against the wall.

I know from long time why you can't answer me with anything sensible, and why your  sidekick Natty Threads cant even answer me because I put your back against the wall.
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: I ELIJAH I on March 26, 2009, 02:14:05 PM
Give Thanks!  :D

And please do side up tight, conserves ammo.
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: Knowledge on March 26, 2009, 02:24:39 PM
Stay Fake  ;)
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: I ELIJAH I on March 26, 2009, 02:29:31 PM
Oh well, "Knowledge"'s do come and go.
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: paco on March 26, 2009, 04:08:48 PM
  brother Surf_Man thank you for reply # 2, so beautiful and uplifting. i going to print that one out and save, carry in my wallet-- good 'medicine'. Nya, i been to ur site and i want u to know, on this very day i gonna order one of ur cd's. i like ur sound. blessings to all the families. And knowledge on reply #19 and i don't know why, i laffed my culo off-hahaha. i don't always agree with u say but imo ur writing style/expressions are a delite forme to read-thanks.
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: surfmon_I on March 27, 2009, 09:38:59 AM
Greetings All,
  Bruddah Paco, Always a pleasure.  In so many ways we walk together, for when the computer is turned off , in the boundless space that our minds travel, we are together.  What we share is eccoed and vibrates.

  I usually post up in the early am.  EST.  It is when the mind is fresh, and the family sleeps.  Going to work yesterday, I thought od something I wrote,  I dont claim to be Ras.  It is an appointment.  Something one must earn and grow into.
It is a fullness that is absorbed and radiates outward.  When I first came to the site, the very reason and driving froce of learning to use this tool, I approached with respect.  Watching and absorbing, rarely posting.  Rasta Business is a Serious thing.

  We have two ears and one mouth, so a wise one would listen twice as hard as they talk.

It is a challange to address so many views, and Iman try to do it evenly.  at 45, I still feel the young man inside, yet time marches on, and it is strange to be so old.  I see it in the elders, that come a time to put childish things aside and ego to tend to business while we still can.  I had written many notes throughout the days, but will not bore the I's with them, I must try and stay on track.

  I would very much like it if we would envision that we are sitting at the table sharing food and drink.  We all need this.  At this table, lets make it round,  we can all see each other clearly.  Our views, words and expressions are all visible. 

It would be a lot different than what we have go on here.  Words are only part of the picture.  What is lacking is the face, the expressions, they way in which our words are shaped and delivered.  The manner in which they are received and the ability in which we can explain where they are coming from, the meaning behind them.

  Having spoken to Brdren Human on the phone, I can put a voice behind the words.  I give thanks for that.  Same for Sistah Vee, I speak regularly with her as well.  It is taking it a step further than this, what we do here.  Please check the chat room to take it a little further.  even the shortest time spent is well worth getting to know one another.

   What I think ones have the most difficulty with is the view of the One as Many.  Our views are not always the views of others.  This is fine, but it is when we start to take our view and perscribe it for others, as has been stated before, that in this window of words without faces and expression, we SEE what the outcome of this is.

  So, I cautiously, respectfully ask Bredren Elijah to relate further, at this "Round Table",  where one takes it upon themselves to relegate "moral athority" upon others.

... reality that We are indeed "the man himself". People still dealing with a "following" mentality deserve all the fire they could be graced with. See dem sey ""we are not Judges"" Soon come them a see that indeed We(Rastafari) are the Judge. "Judge not lest you be judged" Only means don't judge unless you have the moral authority.

  Are we not free to choose our moral compass?.  Relate and practice the things that guide OUR lives, BUT not EXPECT ( remember~ pre concieved resentment)  others to "follow" our path.  Are we not our Brothers and Sisters keepers ~ which I take to mean we are to aid one another.  Help a stranger, or one that least expects it.    This is a central question I think.

  Do Not waste time on posts that are snipping back and forth please.  Stick to the central, Bigger picture issues that are exposed as we reason.  Please let us have some manners at the Table. 

 
Bredren Human, will post on reply #14 re WOJ/eldres when I get home later or tomorrow am.  gotta run now.

  BlessUp,NuffLove~

Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: I ELIJAH I on March 27, 2009, 10:57:02 AM
There's no need to prescribe the truth, if one wants to get well they will seek and accept it. Moral authority is no respecter of persons to begin with. Only the lack of this authority conceptualizes an "other" at all. Yes ones are free to choose their moral compass but this choice will be weighed against Reality, Truth, G-d. There is no expectation, only nonnegotiable consequence. I have seen where the individuals of this "Rastafari movement" stand well enough to know that its nothing with which I would ever associate myself and so will decline your invitation.

Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: Human on March 27, 2009, 02:01:41 PM
"I have seen where the individuals of this "Rastafari movement" stand well enough to know that its nothing with which I would ever associate myself"

Elijah, if this site is a terrible representation of Rastafari because of as you say the "Movement" and the "People" on this particular site dont fit your idea of what Rastafari is, WHY do you come back here daily? WHY have you not simply left this site and never come back to such a misrepresentation of that which you feel so strong about? it is not that your defending anything by coming back after what you have stated, your not defending truth or His Majesty at all, as a matter of fact "God" as you say he is does not need defending, especially from a public forum so WHY do you stick around? by sticking around and constantly using snide remarks for every post that comes along you actually DO ASSOCIATE with such misrepresentation, you DO dwell in the false light of Rastafari by participating in it daily, anyone with the slightest amount of strength and strong sight of Rastafari as you see it would easily walk away from this site never to look back, but the WEAKNESS you show in this area clearly demonstrates your need for US, your need to DEFEND slackness not RASTAFARI, it is WE that control you by drawing you in to ...as you say this folly and miserable representation, if no RASTA is on this site as you have claimed by your statements than why you "The Rasta" here? do you feel your going to change this site to being more Rasta, more Knowledgable to Rasta ways, are you going to purge the wickedness from this site?

Your here because of an inner WEAKNESS, an INABILITY to accept your OWN STRENGTH and move on, YOU NEED US to reassure your own belief system and tell yourself that you have the right medicine when it is YOU that is the SICK ONE by coming back for more "poison".

If this is not the case then move on, seek some were will you can grow with real food for your self, remember were just crumbs, we can't sustain such an appetite as yours unless the crumbs WE provide YOU are actually FILLING. The only other way is you simply feeding and growing from "weakhearts" and "commoners" which makes you a scavenger, a dog living of scraps of food is not a lion, it's just a dog living off scraps of food. No one believes you when you say such things as "I could care less" "its nothing with which I would ever associate myself ".

Dont flatter yourself.
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: I ELIJAH I on March 27, 2009, 04:40:24 PM
My presence here is explained, in light of the fact this forum is visible to the larger public, by my statements declaring yourselves to be the misrepresentations you are being seen as a charitable endeavor to prevent those not already so forsaken from wandering into the miserable snake pit of deceptions that is your minds.
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: Human on March 27, 2009, 05:05:01 PM
Give thanks.
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: I ELIJAH I on March 27, 2009, 05:08:40 PM
Ask and ye shall receive.
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: surfmon_I on March 27, 2009, 06:54:11 PM
I hereby move that this thread be terminated. 
It was the will of this member to open reasoning on a different level, invitations were sent and only one denial recieved.
Didn't anyone ever tell you (of course i am speaking to Elijah~ it always turns out to be about him) that once an invitation is denied, it is rude to show up,,,again, and again, and...again.

At this point, the desire for "reasoning" has left me.  There is no longer any fresh air left to breath.   you have smothered us with your arrogance far too long.

I seriously suspect you are a government agent sent to disrupt Rastafari boards seeing as you are in conflict with everyone on them and preach to elders with all of your 27 years experience.  Some priest you are!, don't even put the O in GOD.  you are an agent of darkness and confusion clatting up the flow weh eva yah go.

I have yet to do so, and have wanted to for so long, but I will sus out how to fill out a poll for your ouster.  There are rarely any "newbies" in this section, and i do not know how many of them actually venture into this section.  The Empresses have long since departed with any of the Bredren Kings that had real works TO DO.

Still, as so many other gracious members have exhibited, I wish you well.  I pray JAH light the darkness that command you and abolish it from your life. 

The Government sure must pay well.
 
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: I ELIJAH I on March 27, 2009, 08:04:57 PM
No, I have heard that its rude to make invitations into another's place as if it was yours though.
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: Knowledge on March 27, 2009, 09:17:02 PM
I am glad that Father Surfmon a say the same thing I have been saying about this fraud i Elijah i aka Who Dem.
Because if he isn't an agent of the system, then to put it bluntly:- "it must be de mad puss piss him a drink, weh mek him a gwaan so" :D .
Just so everybody overstand the last piece, he's drunk off the urine of mad cats; that what makes him carry on in such an obnoxious, corrosive and unintelligent manner.
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: I ELIJAH I on March 27, 2009, 10:37:08 PM
Real Talk That
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: Knowledge on March 28, 2009, 08:38:03 AM
As I said;  A 'Mad Puss Piss' a get you drunk :-X
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: I ELIJAH I on March 28, 2009, 09:05:08 AM
Yeah. We heard you, and remarked on the inanity of a mind operating on such a level of thought.
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: surfmon_I on March 29, 2009, 04:52:46 PM
"Check it, the concept of Rastafari is not me and you, or me against you .It is a concept of integrity and righteous commitment to progressive and upfull living and Ivine governance.
Some individuals will foolishly allow position in administration to get into their heads –Many are not governed by a code of conduct, and therefore it becomes a free for all mentality or the man with the most clout rule. These are the same ones who will eventually stand on the floor at the detriment of the organization."

  Just thought I would go back to what this thread is really all about.  We get so side tracked with things that are not related to the Iriginal food.

  pick out anything we can forward with and how it applies to our lives, instead of always reverting to memememememe.
It is about WE.

OneLove.

Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: I ELIJAH I on March 29, 2009, 05:45:31 PM
""The camp is being invaded""

This statement tells me there is more that just "We". There are those who are not "We", pretending to be "We", Harassing "We". You have to stop the bleeding to heal. If I were going to move forward, I'd establish exactly who "We" are and who "We" aren't. Which is what I said in the beginning till some "Rastafari" got their panties in a bundle that the truth dared offend them.
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: Rasta Nick on March 29, 2009, 09:21:54 PM
Honestly, who would read back and think that any of this has anything to do with Rasta? Personally I am not sure that any of this has anything to do with anything! lol

I would suggest that perhaps you sling some mud at me since I do not care what you think of me, nor have I any interest for this foolishness - I have no care who amongst you is "right" since if all seek is to be right then you are. No reason to argue or disagree ... I can point to a blue cup and call it red and I will be right ... It is red ... you can tell me it is blue and show me more examples of blue until you are red (or blue) in the face .. I will see a red cup ... until I decide it is green. Meanwhile you can continue to knock yaself out telling me it's blue .. if that is what your ego demands you to do .. that is your choice. Nothing to do with me and my red cup .. all about you and your desire to convince me it is blue. I know it's red ... why would I need convincing otherwise?! Now perhaps if we reasoned we would find out that red in my world is blue in yours? Who knows? We will never find out whilst trying to convince or undermine others.

Speaking now as a grandparent, since it was my honour to become one this year I would say to you all "Grow up and stop being so silly. You are old enough to know better." lol

Enjoy the moments that combine to make your day.

Love to you all
Nick
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: Nepsis on March 30, 2009, 03:46:18 AM
Speaking now as a grandparent, since it was my honour to become one this year I would say to you all "Grow up and stop being so silly. You are old enough to know better." lol

Enjoy the moments that combine to make your day.

Love to you all
Nick
congratulations papa!  that's greatness
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: surfmon_I on March 30, 2009, 10:46:20 AM
Honestly, who would read back and think that any of this has anything to do with Rasta? Personally I am not sure that any of this has anything to do with anything! lol


Blessings Grandpa, what a JOY to hear ~ Indeed !,  May grandchild be happy and health and grow strong.

  Pebble in a pond.  Iverything we do and say add up as it radiates outward from our center until the waters come still.

~S~
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: Rasta Nick on March 30, 2009, 02:56:27 PM
Quote
Pebble in a pond.  Iverything we do and say add up as it radiates outward from our center until the waters come still.
Indeed .. and in my opinion the waters never still. We cannot control what ripples come our way, yet we can choose how we deal with them. :)

Many happy connected moments to you all
:)
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: Human on March 30, 2009, 03:27:38 PM
Congratulations Nick on becoming a Grandfather.
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: Rasta Nick on March 30, 2009, 05:45:55 PM
Been one for several months now :)
Thank you though :)
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: msgal on March 31, 2009, 07:07:51 AM
Grandbabies, now we're talkin!
I have 3, 3 yrs, 18 mos + 4 mos.
It's such a fun road to travel on.
I loved raising my children and so enjoy sharing their children.
I have to admit that I get a great laugh every time my kids sound
like me with their own little ones. lol
I have no doubt you enjoy your new role.
bless you all
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: RHEDDA J on April 15, 2009, 11:30:15 PM
to administration Nick
concerning "ELIJAH I" aka "A WHO DEM"

a popular site "World Of Jah" has banned him from their sight
after he snidely used the term  "spear chucker" in a response to another poster (in addition to his standard of ignorant ranting and his low quality demeanor) created a truly degraded atmosphere as it does in this forum.

I strongly endorse the notion and petition a solidarity with that fellow rastafari online forum community to stop trying to scold or negotiate the incorrigible and restore respect to the "Rasta" banner claim of this site. RASTAFARI (notwithstanding it's own struggles to remove barriers and obstacles within) has much to deal with to sit by to carelessly allow any threatening elements to disrupt ANY POSSIBLE networking positions which otherwise must be the next logical step for Rasta in this age of technology and cyber-communication without the presence of such infilth-traitors.

 The ancestor's angry ridicule mocks this weakheart forum!

I STAND BLACK!
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 22, 2009, 01:06:52 PM
Prewarning; The following is not written some new age, pseudo psychological, everything needs to be positive, morally relativistic, multiculturalist, appeal to your conditioned expectations style...

Only Rasta would read this thread (or entire forum for that matter)and know that it has everything to do with Rasta though only in the sense that it is but another manifestation of the attack against Our integrity by semi conscious Babylonian "warriors" over the internet looking for there own little piece of "I'm a Selassie teacher" pie, if not to appease their white guilt or rally their inferiority reverse racist complexes then just good old g-dless sadism or some other such wickedness. Albeit nuff is just a cowardly fear of criticism not knowing it is the highest honor. People would rather stop the whole party than have it be shown they were wrong about one little thing. The ego sacrifices all for its own survival. Everything needs to agree for these I's, Incapable of true discussion because everything is personal tuff war. Neglect in their ace in the deck. as if its some sort of privilege to speak with them! Trust that I and I STILL LAUGHING though! Maybe just for that reason, What a VANITY! LOL As been said, They take the smallest Vibe and just kick up some ego fit playing Race cards like the strip. Everyones supersophisticated until something actually real gets said then its, "hey that's not in the pseudo hype self love text book, WHITEY!" So Rasta just keep putting out caps and lo and behold like a glove them WEAR IT EVERYTIME! Anyways I just wanted to put a little context on my spear chucker comment since JAH knows ones just want to censor to avoid their ignorance's exposition "I STAND PARTIAL" style. That the I who I called a spear chucker"'s screen name was "warrior." and i called him that because thats what level of war fare he proved to me he was capable of, and also cause I knew that a bunch of people who are hyper sensitive to their own suffering but no one elses would jump on it as a reason to whine somemore.  But most u minds a closed, you've decided(or should I say it has been decided for you by the "sheep herders") long ago that no matter what I say you will either ignore or belittle it because your "g-d" is nothing more than hatred and violence towards me. Its far too humbling a thought for the both of us.


The window of opportunity for "Rastafari" as a movement to actually do something real and helpful closed a few years ago. Just too many invaders, too much false pride, to much racial resentment. Its tuff to see what jealousy reduces people to and the damage it does, but that indeed is life. JAH's still the king and the propaganda and feel a wayisms just makes Him look more true. There's nothing like winning even after your opponent cheats.
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: paco on April 22, 2009, 03:25:50 PM

  what the he_ _ u juss say ? all the years i been on this forum i cannot site one rasta u've gotton along with. there were a couple of woman that were giving u some positive feedback and it seems to me like u juss blew them off. amigo watcha, it time for u to exit, imo. if u stick around this forum it will choke, imo.
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 22, 2009, 07:10:44 PM
Feigned confusion is a base method used to discredit the other. Of course if goes back to the closed mind thing, if your not open to overstanding then you never will, no matter what is said. This forum "will" be choked? Have you looked at how many people view whats said here? More over have you seen whats said? LOL Quite a dead horse this one.
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: paco on April 23, 2009, 12:03:23 AM

 u may be right, what i saying is-- time 4 u to move on--- juss how i see it. this forum will not survive with u posting here. my understanding is that u have been banned from other sites, so either everyone else is mistaken or......
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: I ELIJAH I on April 23, 2009, 07:01:21 AM
Only living things can survive.

The weakheartedness of positing "everyone" against me reveals the true scapegoating, vain nature of this aversion to reality people call "rastafari" these days.
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: paco on April 23, 2009, 03:09:53 PM

  absolutely elijah, i agree. i gonna sit back and watch it play out, 'time will tell'. i finished, adios
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: RHEDDA J on April 30, 2009, 06:25:47 PM
I LUV IT! LOL!
silly little in filth traitor -
tryin' to justify the use of "SPEAR CHUCKER"?!?!?!-
bye bye you inflamed and erupting anus
melt
Posted on: April 24, 2009, 05:18:59 PM
You cant hide mr ELI WALLACE BERNHOLZ aka A WHO DEM aka ELIJAH I

community update: He just got ousted (AFTER ONE DAY!) from "Rastafari Speaks" under the veil as EWB, as usual spouting his brand of insane bashing and low down name calling

Nick?
why will you not take courage and do the same?
Title: Re: Forward ~ HOT FIYAH ~ RasFlako
Post by: Rasta Nick on May 01, 2009, 12:19:47 PM
lol - why are you asking me to do something that I have already done? Seems people in general are quick to comment without being aware of all the facts.

Why did I take so long to do it. Simply because his comments did not bother me. I simply ignored them, since making unnecessary comments on here was what made him happy - who am I to spoil his day? Nobody was forced to reply. You could have all ignored him lol.

Since that was not a choice that many of you were able to make I have banned him. It was done about 4 or 5 days ago .. Whenever his last post was. I have not removed his account but it is in essence no longer working.

As for the courage to do it?! Lol pressing a few buttons to stop one person from accessing one tiny page on the web doesn't take any courage in my opinion. I hope that he finds whatever it is he is searching for ... although since he appeared to believe his way was the only way it may take him more time than those amongst us that are more accepting and tolerant... who knows ... I only know my opinions and what I feel .. I am unqualified to speak for others.

Love to you all
Nick