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Re: The Real JEWS
« Reply #165 on: February 15, 2008, 09:31:22 PM »

Seeen ! My "seen" is to those who have overstood it !

So many discussions pon this site but, most (not all) are against the truth !

I mean just look at the questions them ask ! LOL. Foolish.

I.E., "Is God Black, Was Iesus Black ?, Were the :::: Black ? Was HIM black ? Black this, black that - is what them ask.! "

Why not ask if they where white ?

Why !!? Because they were not !! His (Babylons) - story just repeat itself...some of them will never learn...some of them do not want to. Simple minds.

Original Jews are AFRICAN = BLACK. Everyone else is just a follower, copy, reflect, of what really is. Simple as that !

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Re: The Real JEWS
« Reply #166 on: February 15, 2008, 11:48:46 PM »

I actually don't think its so simple. I think the original Jews were more Semitic or Afro-Asian than whats generally thought of as "black". Plus we're talking about a small tribe of people, not ALL the "black" people on the planet. It seems like people will do anything to keep from recognizing the modern Jews and their relation to the Incient Israelites because so many others want to claim the legacy for themselves but this is false. People have created a black nationalistic idea that Rastafari is a "black thing" and bring much anti-Semitism to avoid their lack of knowledge becoming exposed. Generally they are not able to control their tempers long enough for a full conversation to be had. Selassie I called distinctions based on the color of someones skin "petty" so that's pretty much my opinion of the topic on either end. Though "Black" and "White" may having meanings independent of ones skin which should be defined and Ideally renamed to avoid misuderstanding created by the false impression of racism.
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« Reply #167 on: February 17, 2008, 02:24:19 PM »

Esau (spelling may not be right:P) and Isaac were brothers yes? Esau as the father of the Arabic race and Isaac the Hebrew. How could the Hebrews be all the black people if the Arabs are not black. Usually brothers look alike. We see this in Modern Israel. Don't be brain washed by the propaganda saying all black people are Israelites we must crush down the white Oppressor. Its all wrong.

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Re: The Real JEWS
« Reply #168 on: February 20, 2008, 10:03:26 PM »

Well... first you got to be able to b in a position to ask such. Hehehe... I laugh when I read such non-sense.

Your own so-called "Arabian History", oh yes I STORY tells you that Muhammeds grandfather was so black that he was almost blue - does it not ? How blacker can you get than that. We still have some people in Africa that are so black that they indeed reflect that color !

So...now (even if his grandfather was not sooo black) he indeed have a color different to the rest (followers). Why else would your history books/writings mention it ? How then would he be like the now-a-day so called Arab ? Explain please....

You see... you have to know (its about time) that you are dealing with someone that knows  - not your history - but, I Istory as well. It is not you that created EGYPT and anything else that came out of it. The now - a - day so called Arabs were alien to this continent till they violently took over it...centuries after it was already built ! Fact ! Your beliefs and culture was created and developed by us, Africans. Fact. Look at the Sudanese/Nubian pyramids. You created them too !? Are u Nubian ? They are built the same way and have the same identical writings. You are behaving just like the same people that destroyed the Indian culture in Amerikkka.

Can't fool I man no more. Go ask your Iman (hope I spelled it right) 'bout that - he will tell you (if him wise enough).

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Posted on: February 20, 2008, 09:19:04 pm
Now let I get back to these so called "jews."

It seems you all (at least one of you pon here) can complain about what Hitler or whoever else has done unto them but, but, as soon as blacks talk about what you did to them it is racist/anti-Semitic.

And when we get to the point of the TRUTH then you start calling out "it is history" "it is past, why bring it up ?" LOL.
So you all can run your mouth (big mouths with nothing behind) about what is past but, as soon as we do the same then you call us names..then, then you put us in the boat that Hitler rocked..Hehehe. How foolish are you all ?

Who in the hell gives you the right to do such ? God ? Maybe the one you follow but I Father is greater and much older and much mature than any other.

That bible you hold (if you really do), those rules, that Istory, yes Istory belongs to I and no-one else. And yet you still find I here, accepting all peoples of all kinds and colors and even encouraging them to seek it (the TRUTH), by telling the truth.

You are all behaving the same way that you fakes did when Jesus walked this land. That is why HE said what HE had to i.e., the TRUTH - and we still see that none of you like it.

Well let I tell u something - we do not give a s**t ! Do what it take to make you feel happy. Go ahead and spread your lies all-though you yourselves know the truth. You still hold the same hypocritical mind that Iesus talked about and, unlike some other punks upon here I am not afraid to say it. I ain't an ass kisser ! You do not like the truth well then......you know.

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Posted on: February 20, 2008, 09:44:10 pm
For I it is really sad to see any one, especially I people (those that do so are even more lost than those who create such misery) that support such IGNORANCE ! You are even more lost than them. Coconuts.

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Re: The Real JEWS
« Reply #169 on: February 20, 2008, 11:52:56 PM »

I'll raspond because I know how many people think this way. First of all that many of the people who helped start civilization and religions etc. had black skin says nothing per say about people who have black skin today because alot of those people interbred "themselves" into whiteness. I bet if, were it possible, you did a genetic study you'd find some "white" or "brown" people that were much more closely related to "imhotep" than any "black" people. So what are you going to say about that? You think Black skin gives you the right to start screaming about how everyone in the world follows you? You have been brainwashed to believe that your black skin means anything about your intelligence, your charchter, or the advancement of your ancestors.  Because it doesn't. People used black skin in part as a mean to discriminate against people and that's why you've become defensive and gotten this idea in your head(against his majesties wishes) that the world owes you something cause of your skin color.
Secondly your points about Hitler are almost too petty and disgusting to address. But I'll say this. I and I Jewish people hold no grudge against Germans. I and I hold no resentment or malice against any of the people that have oppressed us. Were Jews involved in slavery? Yes. Does the desire to focus on Jewish involvement in slavery have anti-semetic motivations? More often than not. Is it exaggerated for that reason? Yes. Would it be wise just to move on from this whole campaign against Jews and Israel? Most Definitely.
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Re: The Real JEWS
« Reply #170 on: February 21, 2008, 06:24:36 AM »

many moons ago there was a white man saying inna book he wrote that the people who built the pyramids in so-called central america were from outer-space and not the mayans. recently i read somewhere, can't remember, non-indian pyramid specialists saying that the mayans of today are not the mayans of yesteryear that built tha pyramids.

when i was a little kid in our school books, here intha states, the black and brown man were never mentioned ecept maybe that the black people were slaves. and that it was widely accepted by society cuz thas what was going on at that time. except there were millions of people who knew it was wrong-- they were called slaves. in these books when i was a kid they said stuff like george washington never told a lie.

all dem years growing up in the church with them pictures of jesus on the walls with blond hair and blue eyes it was never questioned and no body said anything where i lived. then someone in the states said black is beautiful and jesus was black too......... man the shit hit the fan then. then all of a sudden they started saying, son it don't matter what color he was.

i give all respect and credit to the blackman! all over the world people wanna/are Rastas now. marcus garvey, black (i know he not rasta) mr howell black and HIM black.

and what can i say about reggae music. i know it juss a small part of rasta. and i could never repay all the joy and upliftment that black music reggae has brought me.


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« Reply #171 on: February 21, 2008, 07:50:25 PM »

Flavious Josephus said in his History of the Jews:

“These Jews are derived from the Indian philosophers; they are named by the Indians Calani.”

Megasthenes, sent to India by Seleucus Nicator, also said that the Jews were called “Kalani” and that they were an Indian tribe.

Clearchus of Soli said:

“The Jews descend from the philosophers of India. The philosophers are called in India Calanians and in Syria Jews. The name of their capital is very difficult to pronounce. It is called Jerusalem.”

If Abraham as the father of the Jewish race is therefore a legendary figure of India, then who is he? And did he exist at all?.

The obvious person for an Indian Abraham is Brahma (A-Brahma) who just happens to have a consort and sister named Saraisvati [1]­ which is amazingly similar to the name of the Biblical Abraham’s wife - Sarai. Indeed Abraham is said to have learned his trade in Ur (the ‘Ur of the Chaldees’ in the Bible ­ said to be in ancient Sumer), which is very close to the Persian border ­ being en-route to India.

It is also a fact that the name of Brahma spread throughout this entire area ­ so much so, that the Persians even adopted him as one of their deities. So, the very area where Abraham is said to have learned his priestly trade is the very area that the Indian Brahma was being spread and worshipped. What more can we find within this area of the Chaldees?

The Chaldeans were called Kaul-Deva, and they were a priestly caste living in among other places, Afghanistan, Kashmir and Pakistan. (Kaul-Deva meaning the Shining Calani, hence these were enlightened Shining Ones, a group going back to ancient Sumeria, The Shining Ones). Judah means Shining Ones as well, conquering Lion of the tribe of the Shining Ones is Selassie's original title and he knew this well.

So Abraham/Brahma learned his trade among the Chaldees, who were a priestly caste related to the Indian sub-continent and were the Shining priesthood or enlightened souls. In this respect then Abraham was simply a title given to the high priest or Lord of the sect of Brahma. But if, like in ancient Egypt, he needed to duplicate the life of the gods, then he too would have needed a wife/sister. The fact that Saraisvati was both Brahma’s consort and sister, also relates to the Biblical account of Abraham.

“But indeed she is truly my sister. She is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.” (Genesis 20:12.)

This same pattern of hidden Gnosis would later become part of the Mary/Jesus myth. The complex twists and turns that modern writers such as Dan Brown in the Da Vinci Code seem to have to create to explain the seemingly peculiar nature of Jesus’ relationship with Mary the Mother and Mary Magdalene are really quite remarkable. In fact it is simple.

Like Sarai is Saraisvati, she is also Isis, the greatest of Egyptian goddesses. Mary too is a duplicate of Isis. You see Isis was the consort of Osiris, hence the wife part. She was therefore the mother of Horus the Saviour - hence the mother of god. But Horus was Osiris reincarnated and so Isis was also his sister. Mary the Mother, Mary Magdalene the lover/consort and Mary of Bethany the sister are really and truly the hidden aspects of a much older Gnostic tradition that has no literal element at all! The three Mary’s are in reality three aspects of the one feminine principle - the feminine trinity.

For those who say Jesus is not Horus or modeled after Horus,, here is some food for thought for those that have an opened mind. You see, in Egyptian mythology it was the role of the son of God and saviour, Horus, to raise his father, Osiris, from the dead and in a sense resurrect himself, as Horus was Osiris resurrected.

However, Lazarus and Osiris are distinctly different names and so cannot be related. How wrong this is, although there is still much debate on the exact etymology, many believe that there is a proven link. How?

The ancient Egyptian designation for Osiris was Asar or Azar. Now, when the Egyptians spoke of their Gods they indicated them with “the” and so we would have had “the Azar.” This term “the” also meant Lord or God, like the Greek word for God The-os or Theos. One of the Hebrew terms for Lord was El and was applied to their many deities, such as El-Shaddai or El-hoim. So when the Hebraic writers included Osiris in their myths they put him in as El-Azar ­ The Lord Osiris. This in the later Latin translation was changed to El-Azar-us. This use of the “us” was the way that masculine names ended under the Roman language. In fact, in Arabic Lazarus is still spelt El-Azir, hence missing the “us”. So we now have El-Azar-us, which reduced further into Lazarus. In this way the Egyptian, or should we say much older mythos, became the literal truth of the Biblical record.

Horus therefore raised “El-Azar-us” or “El-Osiris” from the dead, just as Christ was to raise “Lazarus.” This story in itself is an allegory of the sun god Osiris being reborn but never the less gives us the remarkable fact that Mary of Bethany, as the sister of Lazarus, was in literary and esoteric reality, the sister of Jesus.

And so, as we find that Jesus and Mary were in reality based upon a much older Egyptian mythology, which itself stretches back even further in time to ancient Sumeria, we also find that the story of Abraham and Sarai are no different. In the Koran (6:75) we find that Abraham’s father was called Azar (Osiris), and so Abraham was Horus, just as Jesus was Horus. Lo and behold, we also discover (Luke 16: 22-25) that Lazarus himself rested in the bosom of Abraham, just as Osiris as the crippled god, rested in his resurrecting son’s arms.

And it was this Abraham, this Brahma or Osiris, that is said to have spawned the very Children of Israel. Let’s take a look at Abraham’s sons and see if we can reveal the hidden serpent lineage or serpent secrets that we found elsewhere in The Serpent Grail.

Abraham’s son Ishmael, by Hagar, his maidservant, also had children who lived in India, or Havilah (land of serpents), as it is in Genesis. Both famous sons of Abraham, Ishmael and Isaac have names that revert back to the worship of that serpent Hindu deity Siva.

Ishmael is Ish-Maal in Hebrew, and in Sanskrit, Ish-Mahal means ‘Great Siva.’ Isaac is Ishaak in Hebrew, and Ishakhu in Sanskrit ­ which means ‘Friend of Siva.’ Most startling of all is the very name of Abraham himself, which could mean that Abraham was nothing other than a Naga King - Ab Ram - actually means ‘exalted snake.’

Abraham and Hi-ram of the Freemasons are one and the same.

People argue about which religion is right or who came first or which story is the correct one, this is foolishness, there has always been ONE story with certain characters, but these characters have been using different MASKS because of languages and locations.

So who are the real Jews? look at the foundation (Abraham) and you will learn the real Jews. Ancient history says he came from India, if he is a real person to begin with and not a esoteric mystery.

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Re: The Real JEWS
« Reply #172 on: February 22, 2008, 12:10:24 AM »

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Did you write all that yourself you?man? and if not how come you never sight any of your sources.  Whats the title "Aryan brotherhood and the Jew rats"? lol
I just want to point out that there is no such distinction as "real jews". One is either Jewish or not. So as we see the whole desire to create a category like "real jews" is an effort to defame Jews by implying that there are "fake jews".  You can always tell when something is propaganda when it speculates the similarity of a name and then makes huge jumps of bullshit like "in reality Jesus and Mary were based on egyptian myth". Where they going to run when they find out that Jesus and Mary are based in reality?
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« Reply #173 on: February 22, 2008, 01:47:54 AM »

Where they going to run when they find out that Jesus and Mary are based in reality?

I don't know where they'll run, but they'll be eating the bread of sorrow.

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Posted on: February 22, 2008, 01:27:58 am
It's been clear to me for some time that Brahma is a deification of Abraham.
There are so many cases of this happening throughout history there's no reason to believe it didn't happen here.
Abraham is not an allegory. He was a real man with a real history and real descendants. These genealogies were  a matter of written public record until Titus sacked Jerusalem in 70 ce and had them all destroyed.

I have studied mediaeval art. Something that came up over and over again, that I have only recently rediscovered since developing "belief" is that so many different peoples from so many different places, throughout Europe (and even some Native Americans and some Asians) trace their history to one of Noah's three sons, primarily Japheth.

THIS IS INDEPENDENT OF BELIEF.
Many of these people who trace their genealogies thus are pagans who had no desire for Christ and no belief in the One God.

Was this allegorical?

Sarai is not Isis.
Mary is not Isis, neither Mary Magdalene nor Mary the mother of Jesus.

ISIS is Isis, Ishtar is Isis, Easter is Isis, Vesta may be Isis, Aphrodite may be Isis.

The Freemasons and Templars have tried to make Mary into Isis and have co-opted not only Mary but Jesus as well to fit into their plan and lead people from the truth.

All myth is true myth, but all true myth isn't the same myth.
You can call Jesus Horus, but He isn't.
You can call Mary Isis, but she isn't.

Jesus was an actual historical person of whom there is an independent record.

Any similarities are not "copying" but supernatural foreshadowing, "prefiguring" in the parlance.

The similarities are to make you sit up and take notice, not to make you lazy and say "Oh they're the same."

You might think you're hungry, but the bread of sorrow doesn't taste so good once you eat it.

Better off drinking the water of life.

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« Reply #174 on: February 22, 2008, 02:14:13 AM »

 'even some Native Americans  trace their history to one of Noah's three sons, primarily Japheth.'

greetings bro/sis, did you read this in a book? or have you actually sat down with some indigenous elders and were told this? juss asking.

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« Reply #175 on: February 22, 2008, 03:11:38 AM »

Lol, of course, your both right. I just prayed to jesus and now im a believer, forgive me. Im now a christian.
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« Reply #176 on: February 22, 2008, 03:33:34 AM »

I suppose now you'll want to learn about Rastafari and all that, but I got to say, I'd be more open to teaching you if you hadn't been such a know-it-all baal worshiper for the last year. Maybe rootsridge could help you out.
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« Reply #177 on: February 22, 2008, 03:52:41 AM »

So as we see the whole desire to create a category like "real jews" is an effort to defame Jews by implying that there are "fake jews".

Checking Revelation 2:9 I see that the bible already done saying there are fake jews.
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« Reply #178 on: February 22, 2008, 03:57:06 AM »

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Lol, of course, your both right. I just prayed to jesus and now im a believer, forgive me. Im now a christian
cool!!!!! well yah'll be experiencing true unconditional love and know that yah're already forgiven then....
Jesus is Yeshua,Yesus, Yashua (Ben-Joseph) Emmanuel, The Nazarene, those are some of the titles I Know him by
as the Istorical figure
He is real
symbology is cool, yah can learn things from it, but reality is much juicier
taste His fruit and you'll get a taste for it, its sweeter than any other
The more grounded in RastafarI I become, the more I see no separation between Yesus n His Imperial Majesty Selassie I Ras TafarI
The story is huge and not limited to our under or overstanding
He is back of all so it is not surprising other Istorical figures have similarities to Him
His flavour permeates all....
His mercy is the grace we know Gods love for us by
He is the perfect first child of the Infinite flawless Father and Mother Creator
aspects of Him could and probably did incarnate in those earlier times.......but the fullness resided in that One from Nazareth about 2000 years ago as the perfect Son and we RastafarI see that same Spirit of the Most High as the King of Kings, residing in HIM, as the embodiment of the Father, Son and whole-I Spirit in One Ivine personage, which we, as Realized RastafarI are not separate from.....
as for Jews...There may be Indian and Egyptian connections but I know they originate from another world and are The Ones who carry the rasponsibility for communicating the grace and power and wisdom and relationship with the Most High God of all the Worlds.....
Africa is the birth place of Imanity, we all come from there originally
yet the Hebrew story is the Hebrew story, the ones who have the covenant know who they are, regardless of how we argue and blaspheme, discuss and distort, speculating endlessly......
Faith is faith and one cannot be shamed or discredited out of it
OneLove and raspect
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Re: The Real JEWS
« Reply #179 on: February 22, 2008, 04:50:17 AM »

Checking Revelation 2:9 I see that the bible already done saying there are fake jews.

No...It speaks of people who say they are Jews but are not. Not "fake Jews". And the one who's position it is to judge whether someone is a Jew or not is JAH, So that "fake Jew" would even come out of your mouth proves your ignorance in itself.

Posted on: February 22, 2008, 04:17:29 am
the ones who have the covenant know who they are,

Seen fIyah Nyah, that's what I've been trying to tell these backbiters. How they going to tell me I'm not something His Majesty HIMself told me I was. WHO DEM???  Jews Know who they are because we been trodding this way with the same thousand people nipping at our heels eva since. Let dem rage. JAH have a suprise fe dem. Like u say the proof is in the pudding, heathen can get bun.
Posted on: February 22, 2008, 04:25:39 am
I mean dem musta forgot that Rastafari is the defender of the orthodox Christian faith. So what does that make them who come here day after day to spread their anti-christ propaganda? Agents of Lucifer. Oh but I know you'll tell me Lucifer is just some planet or whatever. But what happens when your wrong? JAH doesn't take kindly to leading his sheep astray. Can I proof that Jesus existed? Of course not, that's why it called a Christian Faith. I and I give no importance to proving things in some mudane babylone sense. That's duppy atheist business, so why don't all you pseudo history closet racist speculators go find one of those kind of web boards?
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