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ArkI

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The false claim of Leprosy
« on: December 09, 2004, 05:00:35 PM »

When people claim that the skin of the white man is a result of leprosy, they are just perpetuating a racist lie.  The Leprosy spoken of in the bible was a disease that caused many changes in the skin.  It caused a sore, scab, and many times it would turn the skin and hair in the area white.  The white man's skin isn't white because of leprosy. If the white man was white because of leprosy, they would also be full of sores and scabs.  I will post what it says about leprosy in the bible, so people can see what leprosy actually is, rather than what racist people would like to believe.

Leviticus 13

  1And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron, saying,
   
  2When a man shall have in the skin of his flesh a rising, a scab, or bright spot, and it be in the skin of his flesh like the plague of leprosy; then he shall be brought unto Aaron the priest, or unto one of his sons the priests:

   
  3And the priest shall look on the plague in the skin of the flesh: and when the hair in the plague is turned white, and the plague in sight be deeper than the skin of his flesh, it is a plague of leprosy: and the priest shall look on him, and pronounce him unclean.

   
  4If the bright spot be white in the skin of his flesh, and in sight be not deeper than the skin, and the hair thereof be not turned white; then the priest shall shut up him that hath the plague seven days:

   
  5And the priest shall look on him the seventh day: and, behold, if the plague in his sight be at a stay, and the plague spread not in the skin; then the priest shall shut him up seven days more:

   
  6And the priest shall look on him again the seventh day: and, behold, if the plague be somewhat dark, and the plague spread not in the skin, the priest shall pronounce him clean: it is but a scab: and he shall wash his clothes, and be clean.

   
  7But if the scab spread much abroad in the skin, after that he hath been seen of the priest for his cleansing, he shall be seen of the priest again.

   
  8And if the priest see that, behold, the scab spreadeth in the skin, then the priest shall pronounce him unclean: it is a leprosy.

   
  9When the plague of leprosy is in a man, then he shall be brought unto the priest;

   
  10And the priest shall see him: and, behold, if the rising be white in the skin, and it have turned the hair white, and there be quick raw flesh in the rising;

   
  11It is an old leprosy in the skin of his flesh, and the priest shall pronounce him unclean, and shall not shut him up: for he is unclean.

   
  12And if a leprosy break out abroad in the skin, and the leprosy cover all the skin of him that hath the plague from his head even to his foot, wheresoever the priest looketh;

   
  13Then the priest shall consider: and, behold, if the leprosy have covered all his flesh, he shall pronounce him clean that hath the plague: it is all turned white: he is clean.

   
  14But when raw flesh appeareth in him, he shall be unclean.

   
  15And the priest shall see the raw flesh, and pronounce him to be unclean: for the raw flesh is unclean: it is a leprosy.

   
  16Or if the raw flesh turn again, and be changed unto white, he shall come unto the priest;

   
  17And the priest shall see him: and, behold, if the plague be turned into white; then the priest shall pronounce him clean that hath the plague: he is clean.

   
  18The flesh also, in which, even in the skin thereof, was a boil, and is healed,

   
  19And in the place of the boil there be a white rising, or a bright spot, white, and somewhat reddish, and it be shewed to the priest;

   
  20And if, when the priest seeth it, behold, it be in sight lower than the skin, and the hair thereof be turned white; the priest shall pronounce him unclean: it is a plague of leprosy broken out of the boil.

   
  21But if the priest look on it, and, behold, there be no white hairs therein, and if it be not lower than the skin, but be somewhat dark; then the priest shall shut him up seven days:

   
  22And if it spread much abroad in the skin, then the priest shall pronounce him unclean: it is a plague.

   
  23But if the bright spot stay in his place, and spread not, it is a burning boil; and the priest shall pronounce him clean.

   
  24Or if there be any flesh, in the skin whereof there is a hot burning, and the quick flesh that burneth have a white bright spot, somewhat reddish, or white;

   
  25Then the priest shall look upon it: and, behold, if the hair in the bright spot be turned white, and it be in sight deeper than the skin; it is a leprosy broken out of the burning: wherefore the priest shall pronounce him unclean: it is the plague of leprosy.

   
  26But if the priest look on it, and, behold, there be no white hair in the bright spot, and it be no lower than the other skin, but be somewhat dark; then the priest shall shut him up seven days:

   
  27And the priest shall look upon him the seventh day: and if it be spread much abroad in the skin, then the priest shall pronounce him unclean: it is the plague of leprosy.

   
  28And if the bright spot stay in his place, and spread not in the skin, but it be somewhat dark; it is a rising of the burning, and the priest shall pronounce him clean: for it is an inflammation of the burning.
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Re: The false claim of Leprosy
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2004, 05:01:15 PM »

 29If a man or woman have a plague upon the head or the beard;

   
  30Then the priest shall see the plague: and, behold, if it be in sight deeper than the skin; and there be in it a yellow thin hair; then the priest shall pronounce him unclean: it is a dry scall, even a leprosy upon the head or beard.

   
  31And if the priest look on the plague of the scall, and, behold, it be not in sight deeper than the skin, and that there is no black hair in it; then the priest shall shut up him that hath the plague of the scall seven days:

   
  32And in the seventh day the priest shall look on the plague: and, behold, if the scall spread not, and there be in it no yellow hair, and the scall be not in sight deeper than the skin;

   
  33He shall be shaven, but the scall shall he not shave; and the priest shall shut up him that hath the scall seven days more:

   
  34And in the seventh day the priest shall look on the scall: and, behold, if the scall be not spread in the skin, nor be in sight deeper than the skin; then the priest shall pronounce him clean: and he shall wash his clothes, and be clean.

   
  35But if the scall spread much in the skin after his cleansing;

   
  36Then the priest shall look on him: and, behold, if the scall be spread in the skin, the priest shall not seek for yellow hair; he is unclean.

   
  37But if the scall be in his sight at a stay, and that there is black hair grown up therein; the scall is healed, he is clean: and the priest shall pronounce him clean.

   
  38If a man also or a woman have in the skin of their flesh bright spots, even white bright spots;

   
  39Then the priest shall look: and, behold, if the bright spots in the skin of their flesh be darkish white; it is a freckled spot that groweth in the skin; he is clean.

   
  40And the man whose hair is fallen off his head, he is bald; yet is he clean.

   
  41And he that hath his hair fallen off from the part of his head toward his face, he is forehead bald: yet is he clean.

   
  42And if there be in the bald head, or bald forehead, a white reddish sore; it is a leprosy sprung up in his bald head, or his bald forehead.

   
  43Then the priest shall look upon it: and, behold, if the rising of the sore be white reddish in his bald head, or in his bald forehead, as the leprosy appeareth in the skin of the flesh;

   
  44He is a leprous man, he is unclean: the priest shall pronounce him utterly unclean; his plague is in his head.

   
  45And the leper in whom the plague is, his clothes shall be rent, and his head bare, and he shall put a covering upon his upper lip, and shall cry, Unclean, unclean.

   
  46All the days wherein the plague shall be in him he shall be defiled; he is unclean: he shall dwell alone; without the camp shall his habitation be.

   
  47The garment also that the plague of leprosy is in, whether it be a woollen garment, or a linen garment;

   
  48Whether it be in the warp, or woof; of linen, or of woollen; whether in a skin, or in any thing made of skin;

   
  49And if the plague be greenish or reddish in the garment, or in the skin, either in the warp, or in the woof, or in any thing of skin; it is a plague of leprosy, and shall be shewed unto the priest:

   
  50And the priest shall look upon the plague, and shut up it that hath the plague seven days:

   
  51And he shall look on the plague on the seventh day: if the plague be spread in the garment, either in the warp, or in the woof, or in a skin, or in any work that is made of skin; the plague is a fretting leprosy; it is unclean.

   
  52He shall therefore burn that garment, whether warp or woof, in woollen or in linen, or any thing of skin, wherein the plague is: for it is a fretting leprosy; it shall be burnt in the fire.

   
  53And if the priest shall look, and, behold, the plague be not spread in the garment, either in the warp, or in the woof, or in any thing of skin;

   
  54Then the priest shall command that they wash the thing wherein the plague is, and he shall shut it up seven days more:

   
  55And the priest shall look on the plague, after that it is washed: and, behold, if the plague have not changed his colour, and the plague be not spread; it is unclean; thou shalt burn it in the fire; it is fret inward, whether it be bare within or without.

   
  56And if the priest look, and, behold, the plague be somewhat dark after the washing of it; then he shall rend it out of the garment, or out of the skin, or out of the warp, or out of the woof:

   
  57And if it appear still in the garment, either in the warp, or in the woof, or in any thing of skin; it is a spreading plague: thou shalt burn that wherein the plague is with fire.

   
  58And the garment, either warp, or woof, or whatsoever thing of skin it be, which thou shalt wash, if the plague be departed from them, then it shall be washed the second time, and shall be clean.

   
  59This is the law of the plague of leprosy in a garment of woollen or linen, either in the warp, or woof, or any thing of skins, to pronounce it clean, or to pronounce it unclean.

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Re: The false claim of Leprosy
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2004, 05:02:29 PM »

Leviticus 14

  1And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
   
  2This shall be the law of the leper in the day of his cleansing: He shall be brought unto the priest:

   
  3And the priest shall go forth out of the camp; and the priest shall look, and, behold, if the plague of leprosy be healed in the leper;

   
  4Then shall the priest command to take for him that is to be cleansed two birds alive and clean, and cedar wood, and scarlet, and hyssop:

   
  5And the priest shall command that one of the birds be killed in an earthen vessel over running water:

   
  6As for the living bird, he shall take it, and the cedar wood, and the scarlet, and the hyssop, and shall dip them and the living bird in the blood of the bird that was killed over the running water:

   
  7And he shall sprinkle upon him that is to be cleansed from the leprosy seven times, and shall pronounce him clean, and shall let the living bird loose into the open field.

   
  8And he that is to be cleansed shall wash his clothes, and shave off all his hair, and wash himself in water, that he may be clean: and after that he shall come into the camp, and shall tarry abroad out of his tent seven days.

   
  9But it shall be on the seventh day, that he shall shave all his hair off his head and his beard and his eyebrows, even all his hair he shall shave off: and he shall wash his clothes, also he shall wash his flesh in water, and he shall be clean.

   
  10And on the eighth day he shall take two he lambs without blemish, and one ewe lamb of the first year without blemish, and three tenth deals of fine flour for a meat offering, mingled with oil, and one log of oil.

   
  11And the priest that maketh him clean shall present the man that is to be made clean, and those things, before the LORD, at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation:

   
  12And the priest shall take one he lamb, and offer him for a trespass offering, and the log of oil, and wave them for a wave offering before the LORD:

   
  13And he shall slay the lamb in the place where he shall kill the sin offering and the burnt offering, in the holy place: for as the sin offering is the priest's, so is the trespass offering: it is most holy:

   
  14And the priest shall take some of the blood of the trespass offering, and the priest shall put it upon the tip of the right ear of him that is to be cleansed, and upon the thumb of his right hand, and upon the great toe of his right foot:

   
  15And the priest shall take some of the log of oil, and pour it into the palm of his own left hand:

   
  16And the priest shall dip his right finger in the oil that is in his left hand, and shall sprinkle of the oil with his finger seven times before the LORD:

   
  17And of the rest of the oil that is in his hand shall the priest put upon the tip of the right ear of him that is to be cleansed, and upon the thumb of his right hand, and upon the great toe of his right foot, upon the blood of the trespass offering:

   
  18And the remnant of the oil that is in the priest's hand he shall pour upon the head of him that is to be cleansed: and the priest shall make an atonement for him before the LORD.

   
  19And the priest shall offer the sin offering, and make an atonement for him that is to be cleansed from his uncleanness; and afterward he shall kill the burnt offering:

   
  20And the priest shall offer the burnt offering and the meat offering upon the altar: and the priest shall make an atonement for him, and he shall be clean.

   
  21And if he be poor, and cannot get so much; then he shall take one lamb for a trespass offering to be waved, to make an atonement for him, and one tenth deal of fine flour mingled with oil for a meat offering, and a log of oil;

   
  22And two turtledoves, or two young pigeons, such as he is able to get; and the one shall be a sin offering, and the other a burnt offering.

   
  23And he shall bring them on the eighth day for his cleansing unto the priest, unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, before the LORD.

   
  24And the priest shall take the lamb of the trespass offering, and the log of oil, and the priest shall wave them for a wave offering before the LORD:

   
  25And he shall kill the lamb of the trespass offering, and the priest shall take some of the blood of the trespass offering, and put it upon the tip of the right ear of him that is to be cleansed, and upon the thumb of his right hand, and upon the great toe of his right foot:

   
  26And the priest shall pour of the oil into the palm of his own left hand:

   
  27And the priest shall sprinkle with his right finger some of the oil that is in his left hand seven times before the LORD:

   
  28And the priest shall put of the oil that is in his hand upon the tip of the right ear of him that is to be cleansed, and upon the thumb of his right hand, and upon the great toe of his right foot, upon the place of the blood of the trespass offering:

   
  29And the rest of the oil that is in the priest's hand he shall put upon the head of him that is to be cleansed, to make an atonement for him before the LORD.

   
  30And he shall offer the one of the turtledoves, or of the young pigeons, such as he can get;
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Re: The false claim of Leprosy
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2004, 05:03:04 PM »

  
  31Even such as he is able to get, the one for a sin offering, and the other for a burnt offering, with the meat offering: and the priest shall make an atonement for him that is to be cleansed before the LORD.

   
  32This is the law of him in whom is the plague of leprosy, whose hand is not able to get that which pertaineth to his cleansing.

   
  33And the LORD spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying,

   
  34When ye be come into the land of Canaan, which I give to you for a possession, and I put the plague of leprosy in a house of the land of your possession;

   
  35And he that owneth the house shall come and tell the priest, saying, It seemeth to me there is as it were a plague in the house:

   
  36Then the priest shall command that they empty the house, before the priest go into it to see the plague, that all that is in the house be not made unclean: and afterward the priest shall go in to see the house:

   
  37And he shall look on the plague, and, behold, if the plague be in the walls of the house with hollow strakes, greenish or reddish, which in sight are lower than the wall;

   
  38Then the priest shall go out of the house to the door of the house, and shut up the house seven days:

   
  39And the priest shall come again the seventh day, and shall look: and, behold, if the plague be spread in the walls of the house;

   
  40Then the priest shall command that they take away the stones in which the plague is, and they shall cast them into an unclean place without the city:

   
  41And he shall cause the house to be scraped within round about, and they shall pour out the dust that they scrape off without the city into an unclean place:

   
  42And they shall take other stones, and put them in the place of those stones; and he shall take other morter, and shall plaister the house.

   
  43And if the plague come again, and break out in the house, after that he hath taken away the stones, and after he hath scraped the house, and after it is plaistered;

   
  44Then the priest shall come and look, and, behold, if the plague be spread in the house, it is a fretting leprosy in the house; it is unclean.

   
  45And he shall break down the house, the stones of it, and the timber thereof, and all the morter of the house; and he shall carry them forth out of the city into an unclean place.

   
  46Moreover he that goeth into the house all the while that it is shut up shall be unclean until the even.

   
  47And he that lieth in the house shall wash his clothes; and he that eateth in the house shall wash his clothes.

   
  48And if the priest shall come in, and look upon it, and, behold, the plague hath not spread in the house, after the house was plaistered: then the priest shall pronounce the house clean, because the plague is healed.

   
  49And he shall take to cleanse the house two birds, and cedar wood, and scarlet, and hyssop:

   
  50And he shall kill the one of the birds in an earthen vessel over running water:

   
  51And he shall take the cedar wood, and the hyssop, and the scarlet, and the living bird, and dip them in the blood of the slain bird, and in the running water, and sprinkle the house seven times:

   
  52And he shall cleanse the house with the blood of the bird, and with the running water, and with the living bird, and with the cedar wood, and with the hyssop, and with the scarlet:

   
  53But he shall let go the living bird out of the city into the open fields, and make an atonement for the house: and it shall be clean.

   
  54This is the law for all manner of plague of leprosy, and scall,

   
  55And for the leprosy of a garment, and of a house,

   
  56And for a rising, and for a scab, and for a bright spot:

   
  57To teach when it is unclean, and when it is clean: this is the law of leprosy.
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Re: The false claim of Leprosy
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2004, 05:54:41 AM »

Hotep!!!!

So that was your interpretation of those passages? And that leprosy is not the cause of the color of whitemen? Because of scabs and sores? Wow! That's it? Scab and Sores!!

Ark I that was all nothing but a Afrikan/black skin person experiencing leprosy!! Some of those verses said it! It not racist its the truth!!! And the people who do say that the whiteman skin is a result of leprosy has fact! Leprosy to have the color and not the scab and sores sounds like a mutantion of the disease. So again explain how are you proving that white men skin is not a result of a mutated leprosy, thru the written experience of a afrikan/blackman ordeal with this "disease" is how you would think a whiteman skin is? That's reaching!! Just quit it with this racist stuff. Especially when speaking on the book of Lev. Because its all written before in afrika Ark I and you UNDERstood this in your own whiteman interpretation.

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Re: The false claim of Leprosy
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2004, 06:20:08 AM »

OK, let me get this straight...

Is Tree-Natty suggesting that white people's skin is as such because of leprosy?? [smiley=huh.gif]
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Re: The false claim of Leprosy
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2004, 06:51:10 AM »

Jah Bless, ras lion made this claim in the culture vulturism thread, and I have heard this claim before from other racists. I don't know if tree-natty believes this, but it wouldn't surprise me if he did.  But either way, he is defending the racist imagination, so I will say what I need to say.

tree-natty, you said
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So again explain how are you proving that white men skin is not a result of a mutated leprosy, thru the written experience of a afrikan/blackman ordeal with this "disease" is how you would think a whiteman skin is? That's reaching!!
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And before this you said:

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And the people who do say that the whiteman skin is a result of leprosy has fact! Leprosy to have the color and not the scab and sores sounds like a mutantion of the disease.
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And you say I'm reaching???

I am not trying to prove that the white man's skin is not a result of leprosy because this doesn't need to be proven. It is extreme reaching and a joke for somebody to read about leprosy and jump to say that this is the reason that a white man's skin is white. You have never seen a black person experience the disease of leprosy as it is described in Leviticus, so how can you think that a white man's skin is a form of leprosy when you have never seen a black man's skin that was leprous.

Look at albino people from the African race.  That is another reason a black person's skin turns white, and it is not leprosy.  And look at the skin disease that some black people have where patches of skin become white and for some all their skin turns white, that is not leprosy.

And there are so many diseases that change the color of people's skin, or makes their eyes red or causes them to lose their hair or causes all kinds of different effects.  Often, different diseases have many similar symptoms, but they are a completely different type of virus or bacteria or genetic defect, or they are from malnutrition, or drugs, or chemicals, or pollution, or radiation or whatever else.  So is the virus a mutation of malnutrition, which mutated from the drugs, which mutated from the chemicals?

If anybody has to prove something it is the person that makes the jump that a white man's skin color is a result of leprosy.  It is just a racist view that is very similar to other racists views of many different races in the past and present. It is just illusion conceived so that the racist can imagine that another person is something that they are not, to make it easier to hate, or look down upon the person.

You are no different than any the other racists in this world. They make up their own imaginations also and come with the same babylon wickedness.


you said,
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Just quit it with this racist stuff.
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Do you think that I will stop speaking against racism, especially when you come and try to teach racist imaginations to others. When racism stops, I will stop speaking against racism.

Like I have said before I will say it again.  I and I RasTafarI will Itinue to trod as One and babylon will destroy its own self.

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Re: The false claim of Leprosy
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2004, 09:01:35 AM »

the melanin in your skin determines your skin color, has nothing to do with some disease.


people of african decent have a high amount of melanin in there skin, that is why we are darker and less prone to skin cancer. whites have fewer melanin consequently this is why they are lighter skinned and more prone to skin cancer caused by over exposure to the ultra violet rays of the sun.
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Re: The false claim of Leprosy
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2004, 09:22:40 AM »

People with more melanin have more protection from UV rays, which are more dangerous in sunny climates (closer to the equator). The farther these people go from the equator, however, the more likely they are to suffer from deficiencies of vitamins they would normally get from sunlight.

People with less melanin are able to get those vital nutrients even from small amounts of sunlight in less sunny climates (away from the equator). The closer to the equator they go, however, the more likely they are to suffer from the harmful effects of UV rays.

Both darker and lighter pigmentations have advantages and disadvantages.

There is no simple "black" and "white." As you move from polar lattitudes toward the equator, people get darker, but it in one continuous spectrum --there are no sharp divides.

Just as, biologically speaking, there are no different "races" of humans. Humans have not existed long enough, nor been outside Africa long enough, to develop distinct subspecies.

The whole idea of different human "races" is a relatively modern invention; a false ideology with no scientific basis which was created to rationalize and perpetuate injustices within various societies.
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Re: The false claim of Leprosy
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2004, 10:32:25 AM »

ark this the perfect example of how you twist and corrupt the truth, now youve said,
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Jah Bless, ras lion made this claim in the culture vulturism thread, and I have heard this claim before from other racists. I don't know if tree-natty believes this, but it wouldn't surprise me if he did.  But either way, he is defending the racist imagination, so I will say what I need to say.

I have made no such claim, quote I please. The I is making complete assumptions, without merit puting words in I mouth trying to define who I am now. when I have not even expressed I views on the subject as of yet!
First you think you own, control, and judge, I&I land, and culture, I&I King and creator, and now even I own heart and mind as well!
It is you who are racist, it is your self you are fighting.

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Re: The false claim of Leprosy
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2004, 10:42:55 AM »

There are passages in the Bible where "white" skin is mentioned and has nothing to do with leprosy.

For example : Genisis 25:25 - And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment ; and they called his name Esau.

Another thing is, I man do not believe it was really the disesase "leprosy" that is mentioned in the bible but, that the word was used to describe the color of the skin.
Why ? Read this :

2 Kings 5:27 - Therefore the leprosy of Na'aman shall cleave to you, and to your descendants forever." So he went out a leper, as white as snow.

If one notices it always says "as white as snow." Wherever someone is mentioned with Leprosy "as white as snow."
But, why I man really say I do not believe it was the disease "leprosy" is because of the verse above, the part I marked fat. Notice it says "to you, and to your descendants forever."
Now ask yourselves who has leprosy from then till now ? There is no family that has had leprosy from way back then until now. Besides leprosy can be cured nowadays which would make that statement untrue unless it was meaning something else.

What I have noticed too is that most revised bibles have been changed. In the bible I have, when it talks of Moses putting his hand under his bossom for a sign it says, "and his hand came out as white as snow." and when he put it back "it was restored like the rest of his flesh."
In other bibles the word "leprous" is mentioned and then "white as snow" which just goes to show how the bible has been tampered with.

I man really do not wanna go deep into this "race" talk but, I thought it of importance to mention this.
What do u all think about it ?

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Re: The false claim of Leprosy
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2004, 03:13:14 PM »

Ras Lion,  first you said,

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There is a reason Jah made some become lightskinned, as a result of sin, so ones past can be seen on their face.
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I then replied speaking about the real reason white people's skin is light and in response to your comment above I said:
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This thought only comes out of your own sin.  The Mormons say the same thing as you about dark people.  People like you and them are basically the same, Inity is not your Nature, so you will always turn away from the ways of Jah.
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And in reference to the post I made, you said,
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Ark has try to divert the thread to a different topic, as he keeps trying to define, catagorize, twist, europeanize I culture, and trying to use so- called science to justify it! We should start another topic about lepracy and the race myth.
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I have already heard of this concept of racist people that claims that the white man's skin is a result of leprosy, and that the leprosy is a result of sin.  What made you say what you said in that last post if that is not your opinion? Leprosy was not mentioned in that thread at all until you mentioned it in reference to what I said, that was in reference to what you said in the quote I wrote at the top of this message.  And for some reason you thought that my reply about your claim that a white man's skin is a result of sin should be continued in a new thread about leprosy.

Why don't you just admit to what you deal with instead of speaking in a round about way so you can deny what you truly deal with. Why was leprosy mentioned at all?  You think you are clever but you overestimate yourself.


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RAS_LION

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Re: The false claim of Leprosy
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2004, 06:57:24 PM »

I think it is obvious what I deal with.  I'm not intrested in your approval! yes I said your statements belong in another topic discussing all type of racial myths including your vitamin d nonesense.

I know some, but do not claim to know all the reasons why Jah chose to make the races that came after "black" the way they look, but I know there is  physical/spiritual reasons. That is what I meant a topic should discuss, not if but why it is?  This is a important topic, as it can help ones know themselves!

It is absolutely true that ones past can be seen on ones face not just white but all races and even within groups of the same branch, if you think this is false, well that's just another aspect of african culture you dont overstand!

Yes, I have sinned ,so have you, but that's not where I thoughts come from! I not that witty, and dont claim to be clever, I am a fool in comparison to the wisemind of Jah, that is why I try and speak not my personal feelings but the higher teachings that Jah has reveal to I&I through his Majesty and his Majesty's people, I try to reflect not only I-self but I&I cultural community, wich I place above I-self ,another african principle!
I am directly of the blood line of the tribe of Judah, through I grandmother from Iteopia, and indirectly from I grandfather whose father was a marroon who escaped slavery, and lived with and helped the cherokee nation fight whitesupremist downpression! I have the Authority to defend I&I cultural heritage and you cannot take this from I.  You have no authority over I, by age or blood, and do not respect you elders (I am not yet an ELDER by age and experience too sit upon the high council ,but I am elder to you, this is another african princible you do not seem to grasp) you don't always have to agree with elders but you must show respect, and order, in your reasonings with elders even if only a month apart. If you don't agree that's fine, you don't have to, it's not your culture, stick to the one you agree with, every sheep to his fold.
Your authority is over your own cultural heritage, and those younger than you in it, and your doing a very poor job represting that, wich defies the teachings of His Majesty, and prevents you from being part of the "new race"! Time will tell.

I intention has clearly not been to downpress anyone, or bun fiyah on people, but on CONceptions, to defend I&I race and culture from vultures, not unlike yourself!
For the benefit and upliftment of black people, and of humanity, and any of the many different races I work with on daily basis would reflect the truth of this statement, so if you think this is racist so be it, because all the white, asian, apache, and black youth that attend I school, and the white and black employees of I company would dis-agree, as many have told I that they have been empowered and learned to love themselves and truly respect others, and RasTafari from being exposed to over a period of time and experiencing I&I Black Supremacy.
So I will continue to defend RasTafari in this time just as I ancestors have done in theirs, some of I family's blood has been spilled for his Majesty, so I will never dis honor their lives, I personally have been through to much to fall for some new age fallacy's, I personally have been harassed by FBI, among others for more than 20 years I have been living with tapped phones, threats, court cases, pshycological, spiritual warfare, do you think I would give up now, I have not made it through all these trials and tribulations by I own ability, or intellect, but through faith and the grace and guidence of His Imperial Majesty, now you expect I allow a white man to direct I&I path and interprtation, how can a white man save I from white man downpression.
You are obviously intelligent, why can't you let go your white supremist character, and learn respect for blackman struggle and Identity, then mabye you would be a benefit.

* you must not like Rasta reggae music, another black expression of I&I culture, as the vast majority of concience songs, and artists say the same things I'm saying,as that is how I&I send the message ,and again Black supremist Nyabinghi is the orgin here as well!
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Re: The false claim of Leprosy
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2004, 09:23:45 PM »

this thread has turned out to be quite racist.

ras-lion what do you mean by black supremacy, do u view black supremacy in the same context as white supremacy as in groups like teh ku-klux-klan.

if you do, you are no more different from them, which would simply make you a racist. your blood-line really means nothing, your character is what means something to i.

ini is a native african but that doesnt make me any better than the next man, no matter where they come from.

we have different cultures, but we are one race of people!

please guys stop this racist nonsense.
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RAS_LION

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Re: The false claim of Leprosy
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2004, 12:23:03 AM »

please refer to culture vulterism for the meaning of Black Supremacy.
bloodline does mean alot, when it comes to wich tribe and culture one belongs to.
character is what makes one man better than another not blood, this is true. but it plays a part for physical is connected inseperably from spititual they are one.
theres is alot of issues I&I black people face that need to be dealt with, so I&I can't be afraid to reason on this sensitive subject, because black peoples suffering is real, and with out open and honest discussion of truth I&I can't heal.
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