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ArkI

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Re: Emperor Hailie Selassie  being God
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2005, 03:54:11 AM »

Here are just a few of the scriptures that show who Selassie I is.

RasTafarI is One with Jah, the One who overcometh and is granted to sit with Christ in his throne, even as Christ also overcame, and is set down with I and I Father in his throne (Revelation 3:21).

Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.


In Revelation it say

Revelation 5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

RasTafarI is the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the one who opened the book, and loosed the Seals. By loosing the Seals, the process of Revelation begun and the Revelations of the Seals can be seen in front of our eyes and will continue until Babylon is finished.

Also:

Revelation 19
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

RasTafarI is the King of Kings, and Lord of Lords.

Haile Selassie I was born with the name TafarI, it means "one to be feared". He was given the name Haile Selassie (Might of the Trinity) when baptized in the Orthodox church. Others didn't know of this New Name until he was Coronated as Emperor in 1930. At is Coronation, he was given the titles King of Kings, Lord of Lords, Conquering Lion of the Tribe of Judah.

The name Haile Selassie is the same as "the Word of God" (Rev 19:13 - And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God). Because the Word of God, or the Spirit, is the Might of the Trinity, because all was created by the Word.

Out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations. Haile Selassie I spoke truth and rights to the nations. He spoke good of the righteousness that the nations did, and he spoke against the wickedness of the nations of the world. This is the sword that he uses against evil.

So it is because of the works that Haile Selassie I did, the example he set, and the words he spoke to I and I that cause I to say He is the One spoken of in prophesy. Not just the titles He was given, but the role He played in this time, to loose the seals and bring forth the judgement with his two-edged sword.

I see Yesus Christ as One with God, Haile Selassie I as One with God, and all that live by the example of God as One with God. So when I say One, I am not saying that Yesus Christ or Selassie I are higher than Jah. I am saying that they are One, with no separation. One has no division. So they can't be seen as three heads of a council, standing beside eachother, because that is not One. To be One with Jah, a man must go to Jah, and join with Jah. They must live by the direction of Jah, through the Spirit of Jah.

Jesus Christ told us in great detail that he wanted us to be One as he is One. (John 14 and 15). He also asked Jah to make us One, "That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us". This is just one of the quotes from John 17, where he asks Jah to make us One.

RasTafarI is One, and if I and I follow his example, I and I will be One. His example is the same example as Christ, the same example as Jah.


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SeekingTruth

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Re: Emperor Hailie Selassie  being God
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2005, 04:55:11 AM »

Thank you for responding Ark I.  According to what you're saying, Jesus Christ and Emperor Hailie Selassie are one in the same.  If I am correct in my interpretation, I would like to ask the same thing I asked before

"if Emperor Hailie Selassie and Jesus Christ are one in the same how is it that final judgement hasn't come yet?  I ask this because Jesus was very clear in Matthew 24 about what would happen when He comes back. None of the events described in this chapter have happened yet therefore I cannot see how Emperor Hailie Selassie is Jesus Christ.  Please explain."

Sincerely, Seeking Truth
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Re: Emperor Hailie Selassie  being God
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2005, 05:35:00 AM »

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"if Emperor Hailie Selassie and Jesus Christ are one in the same how is it that final judgement hasn't come yet?  I ask this because Jesus was very clear in Matthew 24 about what would happen when He comes back. None of the events described in this chapter have happened yet therefore I cannot see how Emperor Hailie Selassie is Jesus Christ.  Please explain."


This is a great question  and forgive me if the answer is confusing.

The best answer I can come up with is that Babylon has not fallen.  This is how it works.  When Haile Selassie was crowned, eventhough he is divine, the Endtime events were not going to occur.  He came back to show us who he was in his new name but the battle against oppression rages on.  We cannot leave the West until the fight is over.  So he ascended back to Mt. Zion were he sits waiting for Babylon to fall, the people to unite, and Rastas to repatriate.

Then the events detailed in the Bible can occur.

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ArkI

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Re: Emperor Hailie Selassie  being God
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2005, 05:41:14 AM »

When Christ said

Revelation 3
21To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

He was showing the Oneness that He spoke about in gospel of John.

http://www.jah-rastafari.com/forum/message-view.asp?message_group=85.0&start_row=1

The Spirit of Yesus Christ was on the throne with Jah as One.  The Lion of the Tribe of Judah is the King of Kings on the Earth who overcometh and prevailed to open the book and to loose the seals thereof, so he is set down with Jah in the throne.  

Revelation 5
1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.
2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?
3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.
5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

Verse 5 says
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the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
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At this moment in prophesy, the Lion of the tribe of Judah already prevailed to open the book and to loose the seven seals, that is why the word prevailed is in the past tense. He opened the book, and loosed the seals, and to loose the seals is not to open the pages that were sealed, it is just to unfasten, or unlock the seals.

John was in the spirit when he saw the visions of prophesy, so he had heard while in the spiritual realm, that the Lion of the tribe of Judah hath prevailed to open the book and loose the seals. This happened on earth, during the time of prophesy.

After this was accomplished, John then saw:

Revelation 5
6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

What John saw now was seen in the spiritual realm, the heavens, that he was in. The Lamb that John saw was the Inity of the seven spirits of God that were sent forth into the earth. All the spirits are One in the Lamb. So Jesus Christ, and Selassie I are One as the Lamb. The book was opened, and seals loosed on Earth, and then the seals were opened in the spiritual heavens to bring the judgement.

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9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
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The Lamb was able to take the book, and to open the seals that were loosed by the Lion of the Tribe of Judah. So the seals have already been loosed and are still being opened in these times.

The next time that babylon will see the King of Kings, Lord of Lords, Conquering Lion of the Tribe of Judah, won't be while they are still alive. It will be before the second death, when they have to face their final judgement. That is why Revelation shows two appearances of the King of Kings, first to begin the process of Revelation, and secondly, after the opening of the seals are accomplished, and judgement has come.

That is also why in the scripture from Esdras says:
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2 Esdras 12

31 And as for the lion whom you saw rousing up out of the forest and roaring and speaking to the eagle and reproving him for his unrighteousness, and as for all his words that you have heard,

32 this is the Messiah whom the Most High has kept until the end of days, who will arise from the posterity of David, and will come and speak to them; he will denounce them for their ungodliness and for their wickedness, and will cast up before them their contemptuous dealings.

33 For first he will set them living before his judgment seat, and when he has reproved them, then he will destroy them.

34 But he will deliver in mercy the remnant of my people, those who have been saved throughout my borders, and he will make them joyful until the end comes, the day of judgment, of which I spoke to you at the beginning.
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I and I are RasTafarI, and I and I have the role in bringing about the judgements of the Seals to the world. I and I are the Ones that remain on the Earth, that are fighting this Spiritual war, in high and low places.

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Re: Emperor Hailie Selassie  being God
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2005, 05:48:58 AM »

the rasta brothers and sisters have already given bible verses that allude to haile selassie. it's tha love- the love to live as one, jah's army. natural vibe for all creation/ love for all livings things. i heard a rasta say heartical. how can you understand bro? sounds like you not reborn,to me. imo, we all actors in this play. all is conshusness. sounds to me like you god is the book! where's humility/humanhood? this brother loves selassie, you and no amount of fundamentalist parroting will ever change that love vibe imo. unlike you who's, it seems to me, in love with the need to be right and hides under the skirt of preaching, trying to rape minds by force. shame, shame. juss how i see's it.
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SeekingTruth

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Re: Emperor Hailie Selassie  being God
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2005, 09:52:04 PM »

Thank you so much Ark I.  This has got to be the clearest explanation of Rastafarian's basis of knowledge for the divinity of Emperor Hailie Selassie. I'd also like to thank you for your patience with me as I know that I can ask a lot of questions and it can seem that I have other motives other than to seek truth and understanding about rastafarianism. I am glad that we can discuss this in a respectful manner and not resort to insults or sarcasm like I've found some other posts in this forum.

On another note. This is what I've gathered from what you've said and the site you directed me to: Jesus Christ and God are one and we are one with Christ therefore we are all one with God (John 14-15).  Also, what sets Emperor Hailie Selassie apart from us all is that he is called (and I don't know by who or whether or not he called himself by this title) "The Lion of the Tribe of Judah" thereby making him one with Jesus Christ. And since according to John 14-15 Jesus Christ is one with God and Emperor Hailie Selassie is one with Jesus Christ, Emperor Hailie Selassie is God. Furthermore, Emperor Hailie Selassie's role in our salvation was to loose the seven seals so that the Lamb of God (Jesus Christ) could open the book (Revelation 5).

If I am incorrect in my understanding please let me know.  Also, can you please make it more clear to me as to how Emperor Hailie Selassie recieved the title "The Lion of the Tribe of Judah"?

Thanks You again
Sincerely, Seeking Truth
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Re: Emperor Hailie Selassie  being God
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2005, 11:10:59 PM »

Elijah, I pray you are having a good day.  I really don't understand what you mean. I would appreciate it if you could  give me some examples from my previous posts to explain your point.  Also, I cannot believe something just because someone says so, it has to line up with the Bible as I believe that the Bible is the basis for all truth.  Therefore if what people tell me does not line up with what the Bible says, it is not the Truth.  I am merely trying to understand how Emperor Hailie Selassie fits into the Truth the Bible sets forth.

Sincerely, Seeking Truth
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ArkI

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Re: Emperor Hailie Selassie  being God
« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2005, 12:55:52 AM »

The Emperors of Ethiopia have been called King of Kings, Lord of Lords, Conquering Lion of the Tribe of Judah, for many centuries.  From the time when King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba came together and brought forth their son David, who became King of  Ethiopia.

Haile Selassie I spoke the judgement of Jah RasTafarI and rallied His people to fight this Spiritual Battle.  The Seals have been opened and RasTafarI SoulJahs chant the judgement of the Seals.

Regarding Oneness, I see all of Jah Creation as One with Jah with a little exception. The only thing that I see as separate from Jah, is our mind, unless we choose to be One with Jah in completeness. I sight that Jah gave this choice to I and I to make a creation that does His will by choice, even though they have the option to choose not to.

This is a greater thing to create, a being that doesn't only deal with Jah ways because they don't know how to do anything else, but a creation that deals with Jah ways, because they want and choose to.

I and I ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. So I and I can choose to do something uplifting, or something that destroys. And Jah is watching His Creation, to see how people choose to live. And when judgement day comes, he will keep those that are One.

So Live as One.


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